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sam33

Leila Sharp - spoilers

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Why do the people that think just because Ashley is wearing a red bandana, means that she is associated with the Angel's? Dude it iS just a bandana, they don't have THAT big of a roll in Motorcycle Clubs as they do with "Bloods and Crips, yo fool you wearing a blue bandana so ima kill you son!" with biker's, their "colored bandana's(flags)" are the f'ing patches they wear period. All that means to me is that she likes red bandana's, but still adorn's The Lost logo which would mean more to a biker than a stupid bandana yo can buy at a frickin liquor store, and I didn't say everyone thought this so don't even talk sh*t cause I didn't call out any names.(forum pre-comeback, self-defense technique).

 

Erm... what are you babbling on about? Has somebody not read through the thread? sigh.gif

 

We're debating about whether it's Ashley Butler or Leila Sharpe in Johnny's trailer. Not about which gang the one with the bandana is part of. I was merely stating that the same women in the picture on the official website, the women we see at Rays during the cutscene for 'taking out the trash', the woman in one of the TLAD screenshots and the women in Johnny's trailer is wearing a red bandana, which kinda proves that it IS Ashley Butler.

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~Nico~

You said the red bandana is a dead give away, and I said a bandana doesn't mean that much to a biker, Did YOU read that? probably not cause you insulted me like I was talkin' random non sense, whatever than be that way cause I can give a sh*t less, And I remembered you too, I was gonna give you a free subscription because you were the first to ask, but now I changed my f*cking mind.

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You said the red bandana is a dead give away, and I said a bandana doesn't mean that much to a biker, Did YOU read that? probably not cause you insulted me like I was talkin' random non sense, whatever than be that way cause I can give a sh*t less, And I remembered you too, I was gonna give you a free subscription because you were the first to ask, but now I changed my f*cking mind.

 

Haha, calm down. I didn't insult anybody dude. I was just asking what you were talking about. I didn't bother reading your post because what you were babbling on about had no relevence to the aguement at hand. We were talking about... you know what. Nevermind smile.gif

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sam33

I'm not saying it's her in the trailer. I'm just saying Leila Sharpe dies. It's on the LCPD database. I don't know where all this talk of her being in the trailer came from. I know who Ashley is. She's the girl chatting to Ray and is Billys girl. Leila is apparently Johnnies girl according to the LCPD database and Leila gets killed smile.gif.

 

edit: It's GTA. She's more likely to dramatically get gunned down than die in a squalor from a overdose tounge.gif.

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e2thejdot
So who`s the girl hugging him in the Johnny trailer ? I think that`s her. And I can`t see the climax being Billy and Johnny because Billy ends up in custody . Thatd be a bit of a lame ending.

Billy doesn't end up in custody. He starts out in custody. At the beginning of TLAD Johnny is going to be running the gang.. then Billy gets out of jail and it becomes a struggle for power.

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JOSEPH X
So who`s the girl hugging him in the  Johnny trailer ? I think that`s her. And I can`t see the climax being Billy and Johnny because Billy ends up in custody . Thatd be a bit of a lame ending.

Billy doesn't end up in custody. He starts out in custody. At the beginning of TLAD Johnny is going to be running the gang.. then Billy gets out of jail and it becomes a struggle for power.

I`m getting this info from the LCPD database, which at the end of Niko`s story says Billy is "In Custody"

 

I`m beginning to think Leila Sharpe has been kept secret til the release

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ArcaneKnight

Thanks a lot. You just ruined the whole game for me. Probably wont even end up getting it now.. If she's in the LAD, what do I need to know anything about her status in IV? Let alone that she's dead.

 

 

Just kills the entire storyline for me, I was really looking forward to getting into the LAD... Thanks a lot pal..

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e2thejdot

True. Now that I'm re-reading previews, it says he starts out in rehab, not jail. Then he gets out and the power struggle starts.

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e2thejdot

 

Thanks a lot. You just ruined the whole game for me. Probably wont even end up getting it now.. If she's in the LAD, what do I need to know anything about her status in IV? Let alone that she's dead.

 

 

Just kills the entire storyline for me, I was really looking forward to getting into the LAD... Thanks a lot pal..

Seriously? People need to grow up. Leila Sharpe isn't even a decent side character to this whole plot like Ray Boccino, Phil, etc. I'm tired of people coming on the forums and acting like little kids with one hand over their face watching a scary movie. Guess what we do here? We talk about the damn game. If you don't wanna know anything about the game, put your big girl panties on and don't come to the forum.

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Leo Colt

 

she said,'' come here, come hold me johnny'', but thats on my t.v.

A nice interpretation, but I just watched it again and could not detect an "H" sound in that part of the trailer. I listened carefully to it several times though, and it sounds like "Come here! In here, old man Johnny!" as though she's panicking about something Johnny needs to urgently attend to. The bit where they hug is definitely not the exact moment she is speaking (her lips don't even move for a start), plus Johnny's face very briefly (you have to look very carefully to see this) flashes extreme anger right at the end of the scene.

 

I'm thinking that her speech is the moment Leila is dying, and that the hug we see in the trailer is the immediate aftermath. It also looks like there's blood on the walls, but that may have been there before.

 

 

Thanks a lot. You just ruined the whole game for me. Probably wont even end up getting it now.. If she's in the LAD, what do I need to know anything about her status in IV? Let alone that she's dead.

 

 

Just kills the entire storyline for me, I was really looking forward to getting into the LAD... Thanks a lot pal..

Oh grow up. Rockstar put this in their own freaking game. It's hardly a stupid "spoiler." I agree with e2thejdot, I too am sick of this censoring culture where absolutely nothing can be mentioned without "completely ruining" a game for someone. "ZOMG1!, it says Niko Bellic is the main character on the back of the box. Thanks a lot jerks, you've just ruined the whole storyline1!!11!1"

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she said,'' come here, come hold me johnny'', but thats on my t.v.

A nice interpretation, but I just watched it again and could not detect an "H" sound in that part of the trailer. I listened carefully to it several times though, and it sounds like "Come here! In here, old man Johnny!" as though she's panicking about something Johnny needs to urgently attend to. The bit where they hug is definitely not the exact moment she is speaking (her lips don't even move for a start), plus Johnny's face very briefly (you have to look very carefully to see this) flashes extreme anger right at the end of the scene.

 

I'm thinking that her speech is the moment Leila is dying, and that the hug we see in the trailer is the immediate aftermath. It also looks like there's blood on the walls, but that may have been there before.

 

 

Thanks a lot. You just ruined the whole game for me. Probably wont even end up getting it now.. If she's in the LAD, what do I need to know anything about her status in IV? Let alone that she's dead.

 

 

Just kills the entire storyline for me, I was really looking forward to getting into the LAD... Thanks a lot pal..

Oh grow up. Rockstar put this in their own freaking game. It's hardly a stupid "spoiler." I agree with e2thejdot, I too am sick of this censoring culture where absolutely nothing can be mentioned without "completely ruining" a game for someone. "ZOMG1!, it says Niko Bellic is the main character on the back of the box. Thanks a lot jerks, you've just ruined the whole storyline1!!11!1"

good point, i guess the part where they hugged was subliminal.

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sam33

I agree with the previous posts about people saying I spoiled the game. It just seems pointless. In my opinon given the fact Leila isn't in the trailers she'll either play a massive part that R* don't want us to know anything about or she won't be in it at all.

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Yeah, it's all good and well YOU not giving a sh*t but a lot of people, including myself, like to just follow a story themselves without some loudmouth dickhead thinking it's hilarious to go about blurting out spoilers. Even if it's just little things like this. It may be just a little thing to you but because of you, a lot of people now know, that during some point of TLAD Leila Sharpe is going to die and that's that particular part of that story ruined. Seriously, what's the point? Are you seriously that retarded that you didn't think anybody would care? Sheesh, I'm gonna stop typing now before I get going. I apologise in advance to whoever, if I get going tonight, it's nothing personal. I'm just feeling ratty tonight.

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ArcaneKnight

Its just your title, I didnt even have to come into the thread for me to see a spoiler.. And I think you did it on purpose. You could have had the decency and consideration for people who didnt need to know that information. Id rather have been surprised in TLAD, then come later on find out they had her marked as dead in the police database..

 

But I dont even know if I feel like wasting my money to even get the game now thanks to this thread..

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Its just your title, I didnt even have to come into the thread for me to see a spoiler.. And I think you did it on purpose. You could have had the decency and consideration for people who didnt need to know that information. Id rather have been surprised in TLAD, then come later on find out they had her marked as dead in the police database..

 

But I dont even know if I feel like wasting my money to even get the game now thanks to this thread..

 

Yeah, I think a lack of consideration is the problem here. As I stated in an earlier post, you could've easily titled the thread differently but you chose not to. Almost like you DID do it on purpose just to spoil it for people for a few kicks and giggles.

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e2thejdot

 

Yeah, it's all good and well YOU not giving a sh*t but a lot of people, including myself, like to just follow a story themselves without some loudmouth dickhead thinking it's hilarious to go about blurting out spoilers. Even if it's just little things like this. It may be just a little thing to you but because of you, a lot of people now know, that during some point of TLAD Leila Sharpe is going to die and that's that particular part of that story ruined. Seriously, what's the point? Are you seriously that retarded that you didn't think anybody would care? Sheesh, I'm gonna stop typing now before I get going. I apologise in advance to whoever, if I get going tonight, it's nothing personal. I'm just feeling ratty tonight.

Only in the gaming industry would somebody come onto a forum where people are known to talk about a game and actually get mad when they read speculation about the game. Thats so retarded, really.

 

If there's a good movie out and your friend has seen it, but you don't want to know anything about it.. would you purposely call him and try to get information from him about it? Thats the same logic you use here. And quit bitching because something is in a title. Guess what it says in the title of this website? "GTAForums.com" I'd guess if I came here, I'm probably going to find a few things out about GTA that I didn't know, dumbass.

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Yeah, it's all good and well YOU not giving a sh*t but a lot of people, including myself, like to just follow a story themselves without some loudmouth dickhead thinking it's hilarious to go about blurting out spoilers. Even if it's just little things like this. It may be just a little thing to you but because of you, a lot of people now know, that during some point of TLAD Leila Sharpe is going to die and that's that particular part of that story ruined. Seriously, what's the point? Are you seriously that retarded that you didn't think anybody would care? Sheesh, I'm gonna stop typing now before I get going. I apologise in advance to whoever, if I get going tonight, it's nothing personal. I'm just feeling ratty tonight.

Only in the gaming industry would somebody come onto a forum where people are known to talk about a game and actually get mad when they read speculation about the game. Thats so retarded, really.

 

If there's a good movie out and your friend has seen it, but you don't want to know anything about it.. would you purposely call him and try to get information from him about it? Thats the same logic you use here. And quit bitching because something is in a title. Guess what it says in the title of this website? "GTAForums.com" I'd guess if I came here, I'm probably going to find a few things out about GTA that I didn't know, dumbass.

What a silly and childish response. I come onto the forum to talk about GTA, yes. I come on to talk about up and coming games, yes. I come on here to speculate, yes. What I don't come on to do is ruin the game for myself. But morons such as Sam do that for me anyway, by putting spoilers blatently in thread titles. All it takes is a glance and that's it, that spoiler is drilled into your mind. There's no getting rid of it. It's inconsiderate and you're a completely braindead moron for trying to justify these kind of actions.

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ArcaneKnight

Yea e2, thats a pretty dumb analogy.. The spoiler in the title obviously has something to do with the storyline.. Anything else in the game I'd love to know about, but anything that even remotely has to do with the storyline, I dont need to know, Id prefer to find all that out for myself.. Im gonna be playing LAD, just expecting something, rather than it being surprise..

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JOSEPH X

I feel sorry for Leila me. Some people say she`s not even in the game. First they kill `er then they don`t put `er in the game. Shame on you R*, Could`ve put spoilers on the LCPD database as well you tossers

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Derelict Frog

Regarding this whole argument about spoiler censorship:

 

Surely the point of forums like these is not to to ruin the whole story for people, but at least to help people notice parts of the story or little intricacies they may have missed while playing the game (GTA IV is a big game afterall). Something like this was added by R* as an aside to GTA IV; I hardly think it counts as a massive spoiler.

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Its really not a bad analogy at all. If I don't want to know about something, I don't dig up information about it. Its as simple as that. I don't look for what I don't want to find. Even by your logic, you didn't have to click the link. You could have easily have said "ahh.. he doesn't know what he's talking about." and went on about your business. You chose to come on these forums to find out as much as you can about TLAD.. you chose to click a link that led to what you already believed to be information that ruined the story and got mad when you actually read it. Then on top of all that, you felt the need to argue your point, instead of just saying to yourself, "You know what self? They talk about things I don't want to know about here. I think I'm leaving." Thats sheer ignorance in my book.

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ArcaneKnight

Well I guess I could have said "He doesnt know what he's talking about" but you just confirmed it by putting the LCPD database in there with the title.. And the analogy is flawed.

 

I could ask what kind of guns they have in a movie, or what kind of cars, I wouldnt ask what happens, or anything that pertains to the storyline.. This is a spoiler that has to do with the storyline in some way that'd Id have rather figured out for myself.. But now I cant do that, regardless if its big or not, have some decency and not throw all that information in a title. Because what has been read, can not be unread.. So I clicked the post to tell you I dont appreciate you using spoilers in your topic.

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e2thejdot

 

Well I guess I could have said "He doesnt know what he's talking about" but you just confirmed it by putting the LCPD database in there with the title.. And the analogy is flawed.

 

I could ask what kind of guns they have in a movie, or what kind of cars, I wouldnt ask what happens, or anything that pertains to the storyline.. This is a spoiler that has to do with the storyline in some way that'd Id have rather figured out for myself.. But now I cant do that, regardless if its big or not, have some decency and not throw all that information in a title. Because what has been read, can not be unread.. So I clicked the post to tell you I dont appreciate you using spoilers in your topic.

The only problem I have with what you said is, you need to learn how to take the good with the bad. The predictability of you going to a friend about a movie and you particularly asking about a gun.. I'm not gonna expect him to say "they had a cool desert eagle in one scene", because people usually get into storylines. He'll most likely say something like, "this character got shot by this chrome desert eagle and fell through the glass to.." and keep going, if I don't stop him. Thats why I don't look for things I don't want to find. The chances of you getting a straight answer without something you don't want to know are very minimal. Either you'll look for something and find out more than you wanted to know.. or you won't look.

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what a lot of people have to understand is, this could of all been avoided by simply writing,'' about liela---hidden gta 4 spoilers''. some people avoid the police database about certain characters so they can learn about them through ''the lost'' ( which is more enjoyable than finding out from a forum member ). yes, we come all come here to talk about the game and risk being spoiled, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be more careful.

 

i personally saw the title and was taken aback, but i was like,'' f*ck it, iwas going to know anyway''.

to the people upset, the deed is done, either stay away from here or deal with it.

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Thanks a lot. You just ruined the whole game for me. Probably wont even end up getting it now.. If she's in the LAD, what do I need to know anything about her status in IV? Let alone that she's dead.

 

 

Just kills the entire storyline for me, I was really looking forward to getting into the LAD... Thanks a lot pal..

Same here, he f*cked the game for me too. Let's cut his balls of, brothers.

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ArcaneKnight

 

Well I guess I could have said "He doesnt know what he's talking about" but you just confirmed it by putting the LCPD database in there with the title.. And the analogy is flawed.

 

I could ask what kind of guns they have in a movie, or what kind of cars, I wouldnt ask what happens, or anything that pertains to the storyline.. This is a spoiler that has to do with the storyline in some way that'd Id have rather figured out for myself.. But now I cant do that, regardless if its big or not, have some decency and not throw all that information in a title. Because what has been read, can not be unread.. So I clicked the post to tell you I dont appreciate you using spoilers in your topic.

The only problem I have with what you said is, you need to learn how to take the good with the bad. The predictability of you going to a friend about a movie and you particularly asking about a gun.. I'm not gonna expect him to say "they had a cool desert eagle in one scene", because people usually get into storylines. He'll most likely say something like, "this character got shot by this chrome desert eagle and fell through the glass to.." and keep going, if I don't stop him. Thats why I don't look for things I don't want to find. The chances of you getting a straight answer without something you don't want to know are very minimal. Either you'll look for something and find out more than you wanted to know.. or you won't look.

Well I would ask a friend that doesnt spurt out spoilers right off the bat, unlike the thread starter. Other than that, Id just ask if the movie is good or not, and go see it for myself. Its about surprises, and when you find out something that has to do with the storyline, it kind of defeats the purpose. No need to go see a movie if I already know what's going to happen.

 

 

And I come to this forum to find out about what else has been confirmed, as in guns, cars, whats buildings will be enterable, whether we'll be able to purchase property etc. But I honestly expect topics to have spoiler alerts in them, just so I know theres a spoiler that might have something to do with the storyline, which I make sure I steer clear of, until I finish the game myself, then go back on it, and read it. Which would have probably made it an even bigger surprise, had I not found out that information in LAD.

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sam33

I'm not going to lie. I really don't care if I spoiled it for you guys. R* put it in there own game beforehand so it's not really a major spoiler. Leila might not even be in the game and as far as we know she could jsut pretend to die and have gone into hiding. I did what I did. If you didn't want to know anything then don't come in this part of the forum as possible theroies and spoilers will be rife around here. I don't think I did spoil it anyway as it's just a little gem I found in 4 and I mean come on. You gotta be stupid to realise something like that's not gonna happen. Glad I ruined it for you guys who are whining smile.gif.

Leave and deal with it. It's done and dusted.

 

edit: Btw I didn't do it for kicks and giggles. I thought some people would find it interesting.

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Mafioso86

the title of this thread is bad... but i don't think the OP did it on purpose, probably just without thinking. Maybe he completely forgot about the fact that it would be considered a spoiler or maybe he figured that since it was in LCPD database it wouldn't count as a spoiler. Point is it was a mistake... it's unfortunate for those of you that feel like the game was spoiled for you... but to some extent I agree with the fact that coming on this forum is taking a major risk if you don't want to know these type of details. Are people supposed to make threads with that kind of title? no... but you all know that it does happen from time to time.

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sam33

Anyway can we now get back on topic please.

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TenEightyOne

Yes, the topic is Why Did Some Put A Spoiler In The Topic Title And Why Didn't The Mods Change It To Protect Sam From The Ball Cutting Mob.

 

Isn't it?

 

Grow up, Samantha!

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