Cant open Downloaded Topic

[fordguyjh]

I was researching adding more save garages to SA, and to be able to check multiple Topics without being online and having 20+ tabs/windows open I downloaded Word versions for the topics I thought contained the necessary info. After the downloads were finished, I tried opening each one. Out of the 21 I downloaded, I was only able to open 2 with Open Office 3.0, and none with Microsoft Office Word 2003. The remaining 19 would freeze/crash Open Office. I was wondering if other members encountered this problem and if there is a fix for it. Or would it be possible for the site to switch to the PDF format or update the version of word they use. I really don't want to have to copy and paste 312 total pages to Wordpad manually if I don't have to, I would wind up needing Carpal Tunnel surgery again. Any help would be appreciated, thanks. -----------------------added page total just for nubbles post is 212 total page count is 550 to 600.

Edited February 10, 2009 by fordguyjh

[fred]

Any reason you can't use the HTML version? The HTML version should always work fine and you'll only need your browser to view them.

[fordguyjh]

I want a Word or PDF version so I can remove unnecessary or unneeded portions. As a side benefit I don't have to wait for a page to update because the entire document is loaded when I open it. I also prefer to work offline when I am fiddling around with code. I was thinking about working more on nubbles LV garage, making it a property to buy with an exterior savepoint similar to the Doherty garage in SF. If I can get it working I will eventually post it on this site. I will either link to Megaupload or the site's preferred uploader until the GTANet wants to host it. Thanks.

Edited February 10, 2009 by fordguyjh

[Svip]

I want a Word or PDF version so I can remove unnecessary or unneeded portions. As a side benefit I don't have to wait for a page to update because the entire document is loaded when I open it. I also prefer to work offline when I am fiddling around with code. I was thinking about working more on nubbles LV garage, making it a property to buy with an exterior savepoint similar to the Doherty garage in SF. If I can get it working I will eventually post it on this site. I will either link to Megaupload or the site's preferred uploader until the GTANet wants to host it. Thanks.

Unneeded portions?

 

Ahahahahaha...

 

You want HTML then.

 

Word files and PDF are filled with useless meta data, that just takes up space and makes it a lot harder to see through. You think there is a reason why they are crashing? Because the formats sucks and not to mention that they are undocumented. The HTML format is fully documented, not to mention it is plain text.

 

You can easily search through HTML documents - easier than PDF or Word files for that matter.

[fordguyjh]

If I wanted to use my browser to peruse the topics i had saved I would have just bookmarked each one, logged into GTAFORUMS open another 24 tabs and wait while each page loads.. its a heck of a lot faster to open a document reader and scroll up and down across multiple pages of a saved topic. I don't like waiting for the next HTML page to load each time for the entire thread, a reader opens all pages at once and takes less than 10 seconds to do so for even the longest postings. It is also much faster to edit out signatures, smilies, and other useless, space wasting crap in plain or rich text formats than it is in HTML. It is also quite retarded to tie up a browser to read a document when browsers are meant to interact with the web. Go and open an HTML doc in notepad, you will see all the hidden text and symbols adding a ton of clutter to an otherwise simple document. It looks like a demented newspaper editor went nuts with a rubber stamping kit. So lets quit wasting time debating this and just get the problem fixed. It could have been done two days ago already

[fred]

The thing is, the Word "version" is identical to the HTML "version" except saved with .doc extension instead of .html.

 

If you want to open the saved topics, a program designed for rendering HTML is going to be a lot better than a word processor.

[fordguyjh]

Firefox allows me to read edit and publish PDF as long as it has not been locked by its author. HTML should stay on the web, not used for a god awful slow reader app, which is why they still use PDF, RTF, doc, and txt formats.....it is a few orders of magnitude faster than using any browser for something it was never designed for. For example would you use a dull butter knife to drive in the screws holding your computer together? Or would you check for a gas leak on your furnace with a cigarette lighter? I certainly use the correct tools for those jobs, word processing calls for a word processing program, not a web browser.....I have a thing for using the proper tool for the job, you usually do a much better job with the right tools.....not half-assed like most people settle for out of sheer ignorance. I've been gaming for 30 years and modding off and on for the past 11. I am far from being a NOOB. I did not print them because it would be a waste of a ream of paper, not to mention all the ink it would waste, then I'd have to type most of it back into the computer anyway. Nubble's save garage thread on word format takes up 200+ pages, the HTML version takes up over 300 on wordpad or notepad. Its a big waste of space, its slow (each page loads one at a time even when backtracking to pages opened earlier. Dedicated reader/writer programs load everything at once and is available instantly, if opening more than one document the speed advantage is enormous compared to using any browser by any company. When dealing with 20 to 25 documents don't even waste your time, open them in anything but your browser....so again just fix the damned problem instead of pissing on my foot and telling me its rain............................If you look below and on the left side of each post the wasted space in the documents is quite evident even to a retarded five year old child, the same waste I want to excise from the saved topics/threads

Edited February 12, 2009 by fordguyjh

[fred]

Throwing a tantrum isn't going to get you anywhere.

 

As already explained, the Word version and the HTML version are the same thing. The word version is still HTML. The only difference is the file extension and thus the program that will be used to display it.

 

If your word processing software is unable to render the HTML correctly, there's nothing we can do. Well, nothing other than suggest you use software designed for rendering HTML but that doesn't seem to be going down so well.

[Exkabewbikadid]

 

its a heck of a lot faster to open a document reader and scroll up and down across multiple pages of a saved topic. I don't like waiting for the next HTML page to load each time for the entire thread, a reader opens all pages at once and takes less than 10 seconds to do so for even the longest postings. It is also much faster to edit out signatures, smilies, and other useless, space wasting crap in plain or rich  text formats than it is in HTML. It is also quite retarded to  tie up a browser to read a document when browsers are meant to interact with the web. Go and open an HTML doc in notepad, you will see all the hidden text and symbols adding a ton of clutter to an otherwise simple document. It looks like a demented newspaper editor went nuts with a rubber stamping kit. So lets quit wasting time debating this and just get the problem fixed. It could have been done two days ago already  

It sounds like you haven't even tried downloading the HTML version and opening it with a browser becasue if you had, you'd have realized that it looks virtually identical to the doc version in a word processor/viewer. In fact, open both the .html and .doc versions in notepad and you'll see they are identical as already stated.

 

Here's this topic downloaded and viewed in word viewer:

 

 

And here it is in my browser:

 

 

They both load at the same speed and can both be searched with Ctrl+F.

[fordguyjh]

Try opening 17 tabs - one foe each page of this thread: http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=200033&st=0 plus another 24 related topics and the many pages for each one and tell me with a straight face that using a browser to view that many open pages is faster than openind 50 different word or pdf documents not pages of documents but entire posts with hundreds of replies and i will try not to rotflmao and having a million lol caption balloons hoveing over my head. WTF people are dense, just fix the problem, suck up your pride and admit that some people have a tighter grip on reality than others, and quit aggravating people looking to get help with a problem occurring with the website just because you are going through caffeine withdrawals or didn't get laid in the last decade. No for you for being a hindrance not a help. This is tech support, not blockhead forum weenies are us.

[Girish]

What exactly is the problem here, fordguyjh? That topic you linked to, I downloaded the first 4 pages in word format and I could open them without any problems. I don't deem it necessary to check all other pages since the first 4 could be downloaded and viewed in Word just fine. I'm using Office 2007, btw.

[fred]

 

Try opening 17 tabs - one foe each page of this thread:  http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=200033&st=0      ....

Why on earth would you need 17 tabs to view a single topic?

 

For the third time now, the HTML download is 100% identical to the Word download, character for character, in every single respect, the exact same thing. There are no differences. It is the same thing. The same thing. Not different. The same. Both versions combine every page of the topic into a single document.

 

You are using the right link? The one that gives a downloadable version of the topic? And not just saving each page individually with your browser's "Save Page" feature?

 

[Exkabewbikadid]

Try opening 17 tabs - one foe each page of this thread:

Try actually looking at the pics I posted and notice that the downloaded HTML version is only ONE CONTINUOUS PAGE no matter how many pages the topic has.

 

Need further proof? Here's yet another screen of your 17 page topic in ONE tab and ONE continuous page, not 17.

 

 

 

[fordguyjh]

Nubbles topic is the only one that would open in word all other threads I had downloaded crash Word and Open Office..... If you want to open them I can put them all on Megaupload with a link here. I don't know why a simple support issue got blown out of proportion by a couple of individuals who are glued to the Internet and don't realize that some people prefer to work offline(omg!!!!!wtf?). So why open your browser when working offline,DUH!!!! So if we can get someone with a life to fix the problem with the Word versions of forum posts, instead of asking repeatedly- Why don't u use HTML in ur browser, omg???? and i keep having to say I want to stay offline while I'm coding over and over again, . the Internet is a distraction while working, thats why employers forbid surfing on the job- it hurts productivity and is a waste of company resources/bandwidth. I'm using MS OFFICE 2003 and Open Office 3.0.1 with latest updates/plugins installed which is compatible with Word 97-03 and 2007 and is able to open Word docs. from before Al Gore invented the Internet (he must have been not inhaling along with Bubba (it's not sex) Clinton.

Why on earth would you need 17 tabs to view a single topic?

Because my browser is treating the HTML as a direct link to the topic and the only way to see all 17 pages at once is to open each one on a separate tab and bounce back and forth through all tabs. It is a moot point anyway as I only want the word format docs SO I CAN WORK OFFLINE, OFFLINE. OFFLINE!!!!! Danmit, this is getting to be like explaining 9th dimension physics to a autistic five year old. Damnit, this is supposed to be a forum for modding gamers helping each other, not a [email protected]#[email protected]#[email protected]#$$*^%[email protected]^^$#@%*&*&$#@ chat room full of self absorbed blockheads who think their opinion is the only one that is right in the entire Universe, may all others be banished to Hades. Edited February 13, 2009 by fordguyjh

[Exkabewbikadid]

It looks like you're just trolling at this point or you really are that incredibly dense. So I'll repeat once more:

 

1 - The donwloaded HTML version IS offline. Look at the address bar in my screens. It points to my desktop. Browsers are MEANT to do offline tasks whether you want to believe it or not, and not just browse the web only.

 

2 - Any browser will open the downloaded HTML version exactly the same way i.e. one tab, one continuous page only.

 

 

[Suction Testicle Man]

 

I have a thing for using the proper tool for the job, you usually do a much better job with the right tools.....not half-assed like most people settle for out of sheer ignorance.

Web browser. Notice the inclusion of 'local area network' as a location for content; that includes your computer's hard drive (offline! ).

 

The Word 'version' of the downloaded content is identical to the HTML content you can download, to the very byte. Word is able to render HTML, but the file's extension is renamed to .doc so Windows knows to open the file in Word (fred has already explained this).

 

Strictly speaking, there is no download available in Word format, only HTML that can be opened in Word. Try opening the downloaded HTML in your browser (just once, stick with me here) - if it doesn't crash, then there's nothing wrong with the code, and the problem is with your word processing software (it's probably running out of memory due to the large topics you're trying to open).

 

The best way to render HTML is in a browser - it's the tool for the job - we can't really provide much in the way of support if you're using software that's virtually incompatible.

 

Here's a guide to viewing a downloaded topic (nubble's in this example), offline, using your browser:

 

1. Download the topic to your Desktop.

2. Open your internet browser.

3. Pull the internet cable out of the wall.

4. Type 'C:\Documents and Settings\\Desktop\savegarage_c.html' (if you're on XP) or 'C:\Users\\Desktop\savegarage_c.html' (if you're on Vista) in the address bar and hit enter.

5. The browser will now render the document, in one long page.

 

And cut the childish attitude please, nobody is attacking you; not to mention you'll only see how ironic your comments are when the pin finally drops. Unless this is a wind-up, in which case my condolences.

[fordguyjh]

STM And x my browser checks for updates to the doc automatically, so it is just like bookmarking the post and revisiting the page when opening it, so it behaves like the site not a document plus if i edit out sigs and unnecessary info under each avatar it is put back into the doc when it is updated which is why, yet again, I want to use the Word version....I hate using Googledocs for similar reasons. Put the HTML out to pasture for this thread...its not about the HTML doc, just the problem with the Word docs........I should have just spent the last 4 days copying and pasting to save this headache at the expense of my Carpal tunnel problems(already had 1 operation, may need another) Please reread the opening post carefully, ignore HTML and suggest /perform a fix for the Word doc. problem.... I've been browsing this forum for 4 years, just recently joined for the heck of it, and am familliar with the cyclical nature of this forum in regards to boneheads (no names, too many) forcing irrational opinions on everyone else, they eventually get smacked by the BANHAMMER and the forum reverts back to members helping each other again.... It is a problem I never encountered at SKS Apps in my years of membership, they are all a little more level-headed over there. Check them out, they have been part of the modding community for a while now, but concentrate on console modding with hardware and/or software instead of modding the games themselves.I do appreciate the browser version suggestions, but it is not what I am having problems with. So let us please put our thinking caps on and quickly fix this, thank you. BTW, it would be great if Bungie.net Gamertag BungieCards would work on this forum. I'm a Halo3 Clan Creator-Xiled Kinged Gamers-XKG...We are on Bungie.Net/groups and GamerDNA/exiledkingedgamers.com

Edited February 13, 2009 by fordguyjh

[fordguyjh]

I am well aware about double post, so leave it at that........ STM I sometimes get a little sarcastic when dealing with people who don't fully read through and comprehend the reasons behind a post, but when you have 2 to 3 people squawking HTML, HTML, HTML repeatedly when that is not the solution warranted, any sane(?) person would get extremely aggravated. A little inside joke about Al Save The Planet while I"m heating and running the lights 24-7 in 3 mansions Gore was not within 250 miles of a computer when the Internet came into being in the late 1960s... rofl(not).. I believe word processing should be done with word processing software, seeing that I am rapidly nearing 40 ("Gaming since 1979" in my member title is self explanatory- I am a dinosaur "GRONK" Lets play PONG!)(insert a lol at your own discretion) I will have to ask Bell and Watson how disconnect (MORE Jurassic jokes)All of this forum posting is seriously delaying the work on my mod and keeping me from being a happy camper in general. Remember to treat others as you yourself would like to be treated , assuming that anyone asking for some help is an idiot and treating them like they are will only lead them to treat you like an idiot in return which just turns a self-defeating, vicious circle. So, lets grow up and act our ages and work together on the stated problem.

Edited February 13, 2009 by fordguyjh

[makeshyft]

Why the f*ck do all of our older members (around 40ish) not make a lick of sense when they're writing? It's a f*cking strange phenomenon.

[Exkabewbikadid]

STM And x my browser checks for updates to the doc automatically, so it is just like bookmarking the post and revisiting the page when opening it, so it behaves like the site not a document plus if i edit out sigs and unnecessary info under each avatar it is put back into the doc when it is updated which is why, yet again, I want to use the Word version....

You don't know what you're talking about. Your browser doesn't know ANYTHING about updating the downloaded version. The downloaded version has absolutely nothing to do with the online forums.

 

STM already explained why your word processor is likely crashing - opening a large topic in it is consuming too much memory. This won't happen if you open the identical HTML version in a browser.

 

Take the time to actually read what we've told you and maybe it will sink in.

[Svip]

Another piece of advice... you ought to use line breaks more often, I cannot read your wall of text.

 

But really, if you downloaded the HTML version, you could save it on your local system. Then find your favourite editor and edit the document. Hell, most browsers have support for build-in editors either as standard or via extensions. Shouldn't be hard with a simple google search.

 

Alternatively, download the HTML version and open it in Word.

 

But we are not "fixing" (not that there is anything wrong with it) the .doc version. You may as well get used to that.

[Suction Testicle Man]

 

Put the HTML out to pasture for this thread...its not about the HTML doc, just the problem with the Word docs

Please, please, understand this. There is not a Word doc available to download; it is a .html renamed to a .doc. If you want, you can download the HTML version, and rename the extension to .doc, and open the same thing in Word for the exact same result. Try opening a copy of each in Notepad - you'll see identical results. If your browser is somehow keeping a tally of downloaded HTML files and updating them for you, that is probably a setting that can be switched off somewhere - though if it's set to Work Offline it will be unable to do this. However the fact remains that because we're discussing exactly the same data when we say HTML or Word version - and since there isn't anything wrong with the HTML, there is therefore nothing to fix with the renamed .doc version (we should stop referring to it as a Word version, since it is not), and the problem lies at your end with the software you're trying to render the data with.

[Exkabewbikadid]

After discussing this further via pm with him, he thinks that the .doc version should actually be a true word fromat. I told him that it isn't up to us or the forum software to be converting html into word format. There is probably no way to wrtie a word file from a topic and have it be compatible with all the different word processors out there. Word format isn't very friendly making such a task unfeasible.

[fordguyjh]

 

FOR THE IGNORANT - doc extension dates back to Microsoft D.O.S., Hyper Text Media Link (HTML) is not the same as doc extension and appeared 12+ years later. Word and the extensions used by it were bundled in DOS until 1995. when it was packaged separately to increase revenue. The latest versions Office 97,2003, & 2007 have the added ability to generate HTML for use on Web 1.0 format Internet sites. Halfway between HTML and doc is Rich Text Format (rtf extension) which allows generating text boxes, inserting images into ordinary plain text, and links that can open other documents or http addresses, Txt and early doc formats are identical to the layout of text typed on a typewriter and has predefined margins, tabs, and indents while HTML has to be told how to position every group of information from each side and vertically on common display sizes as well as indents and tabs The dialog box for typing your post is in rtf which is then converted to html when it is submitted. doc and txt are basically a standard developed shortly after movable type was invented and is readable by anyone from that time in history. Regarding my Firefox setup, I have access to experimental extensions, add-ons and plug-ins from Mozilla for testing purposes.Screw Google and its built in spyware. They violate everyones privacy rights by voluntarily giving the NSA everyones browsing and email history every six weeks without even one Federal warrant.

Edited February 13, 2009 by fordguyjh

[Suction Testicle Man]

I'm sorry, this is insanity. We know how our forum software works, and I'm afraid half of what you're posting is hugely misinformed. The doc extension can be added to any file by simply renaming it to .doc. IPB has never supported the exporting of data in the MS doc format, and probably never will due to the general redundancy of the principle.

 

I'm sorry you're so unimpressed with our community, though I daresay a large proportion of your communication difficulties stem from your own stubborn ignorance, so it's little wonder you're the only one having so much trouble.

 

Locked.