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The Second Episode


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damn your guys' choice of music sucks. what's up with all the mainstream bullsh*t? gta isn't all about mainstream. f*ck mainstream so called "hip-hop".

Yeah agreed. And to the other guy, its Boyz In Tha Hood not "cruisin in my 6-4" and no it was not in SA.

 

Does any one actualy have an idea to when R* gives information about pack II?

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One thing I'm most looking forward to is seeing Bulgarin again. I definitely think we'll be seeing him in the next episode. He's such a mysterious character. Why has he come to Libery City? Why is he claiming that the diamonds belong to him? What else has he been up to in his stay besides chasing after the diamonds and having Niko shot at? I just can't wait to find out more about him. I personally think he'll try and take on the Ancelotti family. How awesome would that be? How badass would that make Bulgarin?! He's the most intriguing character in the whole story I think.

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This Maisonette 9 thing makes me mad - I've got to find it.

 

OK, top notch club in New York City. I took a look at Quype and found this:

 

Bungalow 8

 

See here - this is the entrance of Bungalow 8

 

See Map - here is Bungalow 8

 

Also: Bungalow & Maisonette are house types. A Maisonette is a 2 story appartment, while a Bungalow is a 1 story house without basement.

 

So, what are we looking for:

- 2 Story House?

- Unremarkable door with neon on the left?

- West side Algonquin slightly south of the booth tunnel?

 

I'll report in if I find something. Maybe some of you search with me.

 

PS. I don't want to look for Hercules (the gay club) - I don't know what my GF thinks when I look for gay clubs in manhattan ... inlove.gif

If Maisonette 9 plays a part in DLC2, and R* copy Bungalow 8, then check out this building. It`s the white two story building under the disused railway line. For me it`s the peds who make this a convincing choice for M9 (lots of pretentious, shallow types). Don`t be fooled by the drab exterior too, it could be done up like the Lost clubhouse was.

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I've always wondered about that building. It's not too detailed but it's a lot more detailed than the other buildings on that street. It stands out, so it could be used for something at some point. It definitely looks like a club with the funky dancers on the windows.

 

Besides, that part of Algonquin is relatively unused in IV and TLAD, so it would make sense to place one of Gay Tony's clubs there. I'm looking around the area now and there's some huge apartment complex I've never come across before. Gonna go check it out smile.gif

 

EDIT: Nothing there. Looks like it could be used for something though.

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Well we can be sure it's definitely in lower Algonquin, as the police database specifies this. Can someone post a picture of this place?

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there hasn't been much discussion (or any at all) in this topic of when this will come out. I'd say it'll come out this year, maybe even in the traditional GTA release month - October. the original game came out in april 29th and it took until february 17th the next year for TLAD to come out. well North was busy porting IV to the PC and also consulting Leeds on Chinatown Wars. They had to deal with putting out patches for the PC version too. So they really had their hands full. This time? PC version is finally fixed (I think) and Chinatown Wars is almost done. Also, with TLAD they had to figure out just how to make the expansion work and fix out the kinks. with DLC 2 they know what they're doing and they have no other projects they're working on. So TLAD took 10 months and I think DLC 2 will probably take only 8 months.

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My guess is we first hear info about the game around E3, and the episode gets released in October/November, in time for the holidays.

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I'll be updating the main post with some more pictures of Luis, and adding some of the theories posted in the thread.

 

If you have some pictures of Luis during some of the missions he participates in (Museum Piece, Three Leaf Clover and Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend), it would be most appreciated. smile.gif

Is common sense now so rare, that we should call it something else?

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I'll be updating the main post with some more pictures of Luis, and adding some of the theories posted in the thread.

 

If you have some pictures of Luis during some of the missions he participates in (Museum Piece, Three Leaf Clover and Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend), it would be most appreciated. smile.gif

Don't forget "Diamonds in the Rough" smile.gif

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I'll be updating the main post with some more pictures of Luis, and adding some of the theories posted in the thread.

 

If you have some pictures of Luis during some of the missions he participates in (Museum Piece, Three Leaf Clover and Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend), it would be most appreciated. smile.gif

Don't forget "Diamonds in the Rough" smile.gif

I assume that's a the TLAD equivalent of the mission? In that case I didn't forget about it, I just don't know about it as I haven't completed TLAD yet. tounge.gif

Is common sense now so rare, that we should call it something else?

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I'll be updating the main post with some more pictures of Luis, and adding some of the theories posted in the thread.

 

If you have some pictures of Luis during some of the missions he participates in (Museum Piece, Three Leaf Clover and Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend), it would be most appreciated. smile.gif

Don't forget "Diamonds in the Rough" smile.gif

I assume that's a the TLAD equivalent of the mission? In that case I didn't forget about it, I just don't know about it as I haven't completed TLAD yet. tounge.gif

My bad, dude tounge.gif

 

But yeah, might aswell just inform you now you know about it. Luis makes his forth GTA appearence in that mission. It's a Johnny related mission though and is not a crossover mission. Well... not yet, anyway. wink.gif

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I don't know whether anyone has noticed this but if you log onto the LCPD database, each Grand Theft Auto character that features in the Grand Theft Auto series who happens to be on there is always noted as having commited Grand Theft Auto. Niko Bellic has it. Johnny Klebitz has it. Huang Lee has it. And most importantly, Luis Fernando Lopez has it too.

This could also be another chunk of evidence that he will be the protagonist in the second DLC.

Either Rockstar was giving us a hint from the start, or I've just overlooked something. tounge.gif

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I don't know whether anyone has noticed this but if you log onto the LCPD database, each Grand Theft Auto character that features in the Grand Theft Auto series who happens to be on there is always noted as having commited Grand Theft Auto. Niko Bellic has it. Johnny Klebitz has it. Huang Lee has it. And most importantly, Luis Fernando Lopez has it too.

This could also be another chunk of evidence that he will be the protagonist in the second DLC.

Either Rockstar was giving us a hint from the start, or I've just overlooked something. tounge.gif

It's a good theory, but there are at least another 10 random characters with Grand Theft Auto too. Nice try, but it doesn't nessecarily have anything to do with it.

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One thing I'm most looking forward to is seeing Bulgarin again. I definitely think we'll be seeing him in the next episode. He's such a mysterious character. Why has he come to Libery City? Why is he claiming that the diamonds belong to him? What else has he been up to in his stay besides chasing after the diamonds and having Niko shot at? I just can't wait to find out more about him. I personally think he'll try and take on the Ancelotti family. How awesome would that be? How badass would that make Bulgarin?! He's the most intriguing character in the whole story I think.

I would love to see a GTA old-skool battle of the Italian mafia versus the Russian mob. Similar to the conflict between the Triads and the Mafia in GTA III. Judging by what Gravelli thought of the Russians. I presume the commission (one of which is the Ancelotti family for whom Luis works) is in some serious war with the Russians.

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One thing I'm most looking forward to is seeing Bulgarin again. I definitely think we'll be seeing him in the next episode. He's such a mysterious character. Why has he come to Libery City? Why is he claiming that the diamonds belong to him? What else has he been up to in his stay besides chasing after the diamonds and having Niko shot at? I just can't wait to find out more about him. I personally think he'll try and take on the Ancelotti family. How awesome would that be? How badass would that make Bulgarin?! He's the most intriguing character in the whole story I think.

I would love to see a GTA old-skool battle of the Italian mafia versus the Russian mob. Similar to the conflict between the Triads and the Mafia in GTA III. Judging by what Gravelli thought of the Russians. I presume the commission (one of which is the Ancelotti family for whom Luis works) is in some serious war with the Russians.

I believe the Ancellotis and Russians were wroking together towards the end of the game after the relationship between the Albanians and the Ancellotis went sour.

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One thing I'm most looking forward to is seeing Bulgarin again. I definitely think we'll be seeing him in the next episode. He's such a mysterious character. Why has he come to Libery City? Why is he claiming that the diamonds belong to him? What else has he been up to in his stay besides chasing after the diamonds and having Niko shot at? I just can't wait to find out more about him. I personally think he'll try and take on the Ancelotti family. How awesome would that be? How badass would that make Bulgarin?! He's the most intriguing character in the whole story I think.

I would love to see a GTA old-skool battle of the Italian mafia versus the Russian mob. Similar to the conflict between the Triads and the Mafia in GTA III. Judging by what Gravelli thought of the Russians. I presume the commission (one of which is the Ancelotti family for whom Luis works) is in some serious war with the Russians.

I believe the Ancellotis and Russians were wroking together towards the end of the game after the relationship between the Albanians and the Ancellotis went sour.

Actually, I think you are right. I remember the Ancelotti's getting coke off the Russians and you and Phil going to get it back.

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One thing I'm most looking forward to is seeing Bulgarin again. I definitely think we'll be seeing him in the next episode. He's such a mysterious character. Why has he come to Libery City? Why is he claiming that the diamonds belong to him? What else has he been up to in his stay besides chasing after the diamonds and having Niko shot at? I just can't wait to find out more about him. I personally think he'll try and take on the Ancelotti family. How awesome would that be? How badass would that make Bulgarin?! He's the most intriguing character in the whole story I think.

I would love to see a GTA old-skool battle of the Italian mafia versus the Russian mob. Similar to the conflict between the Triads and the Mafia in GTA III. Judging by what Gravelli thought of the Russians. I presume the commission (one of which is the Ancelotti family for whom Luis works) is in some serious war with the Russians.

What Rockstar are going for now is realism and I doubt very much that what you just said would happen, but who knows? The Russians caused alot of tension.

 

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I just noticed that when you go up the scaffolding behind the museum (where Luis shoots from) , if you go up to the rooftop (where Luis is seen shooting down into the South-West window panel in the credits) you will notice that the southern window panels are now more detailed and have a metal mesh other them, with one of the meshes slightly bent up showing that it might open. Not only that, the northern ones remain un-changed probably showing that you will not be using these in this mission as Luis (if the DLC does have him as the protagonist). In addition to this, there is a rooftop door that leads down into the museum (Luis goes down to obtain the diamonds?), however it lakes detail and is un-enter able as Niko and Johnny.

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I just noticed that when you go up the scaffolding behind the museum (where Luis shoots from) , if you go up to the rooftop (where Luis is seen shooting down into the South-West window panel in the credits) you will notice that the southern window panels are now more detailed and have a metal mesh other them, with one of the meshes slightly bent up showing that it might open. Not only that, the northern ones remain un-changed probably showing that you will not be using these in this mission as Luis (if the DLC does have him as the protagonist). In addition to this, there is a rooftop door that leads down into the museum (Luis goes down to obtain the diamonds?), however it lakes detail and is un-enter able as Niko and Johnny.

Read the top of the last thread page buddy, you can jump down thru this skylight during "Museum Piece", but they must repair it, because it`s unenterable on my TLAD and IV "Story Complete" saves.

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Although I do really like this theory on whats going to happen I do seriously doubt it Rockstar says that they want to fill in the gaps with their DLC and I feel like they pretty much have with the "DIAMOND IN THE DIRT" senario why would we need a sniper mission (exciting) I reckon it's more likely to point towards Playboy or Dwayne I know Playboy ignorant f***ing a** HOLE but do remember Dwayne was going on about Playboy changing although Playboy X claims he ain't changed but Dwayne could be interesting starting off in jail now how many criminals shoot 267 people and just spawn infront of a police station 6 hours later you could have Dwayne doing minor missions for his fellos lags, bent wardens even a drug taking mini game similar to the drinking mini game in GTAIV except you got to avoid the wardens cause you trippin and avoid the prisoners since your vulnarable although doubtful still would be pretty cool. And FOR F*** SAKE I WANT A F****** TANK DON'T NEED THE ARMY JUST A TANK SOMEWHERE

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peep this one guys

on the lcpd database they have this guy named Willy Valerio

ok now this guys record is this

age: 29

place of birth: south bohan

affiliations: Northwood domican drug dealers

criminal record: 1998 -gta

2001- possesion controlled substance crack cocaine

2005-assault

notes: beleived to be the head of a gang of northwood based Dominican drug dealers that include alonso and oscar Gomez

- associate of LUIZ FERNANDO mother funking LOPEZ

-personal bodyguard of Gay tony Prince

-Beleived to be attempting to compete with North and East holland dealing operations but does not shift a significant amount of product

 

 

ok so there you have it if luis is the next protaganist wich i highly belive he will b then this so called Valerio fella must b his partner in crime maybe a equal or a boss or even a bitch guess we wont no till the next dlc

 

opinions please?

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peep this one guys

on the lcpd database they have this guy named Willy Valerio

ok now this guys record is this

age: 29

place of birth: south bohan

affiliations: Northwood domican drug dealers

criminal record: 1998 -gta

2001- possesion controlled substance crack cocaine

2005-assault

notes: beleived to be the head of a gang of northwood based Dominican drug dealers that include alonso and oscar Gomez

- associate of LUIZ FERNANDO mother funking LOPEZ

-personal bodyguard of Gay tony Prince

-Beleived to be attempting to compete with North and East holland dealing operations but does not shift a significant amount of product

 

 

ok so there you have it if luis is the next protaganist wich i highly belive he will b then this so called Valerio fella must b his partner in crime maybe a equal or a boss or even a bitch guess we wont no till the next dlc

 

opinions please?

His partner is more likely to be Oscar Gomez. Read his bio in the database. He`s also involved in the underground fight scene, and concerned about his younger brother Alonso`s involvement in the criminal underworld. I think Alonso and Willy will get them into some sh*t and they`ll have to save their asses.

 

About the fight scene, I wonder if it`ll be anything like DefJam Fight For New York? And could this building be a gym, the one with the caged stairway and the Big Boy mural on the wall?

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I am sure during the game we will meet Teddy Benavidez as well (whom Niko shoots / shoves / explodes off the top of that building in that mission from Ray Boccino - A Long way to Fall), as he is involved with the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers, and quite high up apparently. He may be a character similar to Jason, in that he plays a minor role, but is killed off, and the Drug Dealers then start a serious feud/war/vendetta with the Pegorino mob, whom they blame for his death.

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I am sure during the game we will meet Teddy Benavidez as well (whom Niko shoots / shoves / explodes off the top of that building in that mission from Ray Boccino - A Long way to Fall), as he is involved with the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers, and quite high up apparently. He may be a character similar to Jason, in that he plays a minor role, but is killed off, and the Drug Dealers then start a serious feud/war/vendetta with the Pegorino mob, whom they blame for his death.

I wonder what kind of bloodclot that will be coz NWDDD is just a group of junkheads lol

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I am sure during the game we will meet Teddy Benavidez as well (whom Niko shoots / shoves / explodes off the top of that building in that mission from Ray Boccino - A Long way to Fall), as he is involved with the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers, and quite high up apparently. He may be a character similar to Jason, in that he plays a minor role, but is killed off, and the Drug Dealers then start a serious feud/war/vendetta with the Pegorino mob, whom they blame for his death.

That's exactly what I was thinking of! He might be more like Jim though. Like he is a friend for a portion of the game, until killed off (he was only killed in Ray Boccino's missions, which are quite late in the game).

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I am sure during the game we will meet Teddy Benavidez as well (whom Niko shoots / shoves / explodes off the top of that building in that mission from Ray Boccino - A Long way to Fall), as he is involved with the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers, and quite high up apparently. He may be a character similar to Jason, in that he plays a minor role, but is killed off, and the Drug Dealers then start a serious feud/war/vendetta with the Pegorino mob, whom they blame for his death.

That's exactly what I was thinking of! He might be more like Jim though. Like he is a friend for a portion of the game, until killed off (he was only killed in Ray Boccino's missions, which are quite late in the game).

 

Assuming that Luis' story begins during his perspective of the events during Three Leaf Clover, then Teddy's death wouldn't be that far into Luis' story. So he could infact be the Jason of episode 2.

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I am sure during the game we will meet Teddy Benavidez as well (whom Niko shoots / shoves / explodes off the top of that building in that mission from Ray Boccino - A Long way to Fall), as he is involved with the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers, and quite high up apparently. He may be a character similar to Jason, in that he plays a minor role, but is killed off, and the Drug Dealers then start a serious feud/war/vendetta with the Pegorino mob, whom they blame for his death.

That's exactly what I was thinking of! He might be more like Jim though. Like he is a friend for a portion of the game, until killed off (he was only killed in Ray Boccino's missions, which are quite late in the game).

 

Assuming that Luis' story begins during his perspective of the events during Three Leaf Clover, then Teddy's death wouldn't be that far into Luis' story. So he could infact be the Jason of episode 2.

That's a reasonable theory, but I think Luis' stroy would start a little eariler. After all, you wouldn't ahve such a major crossover (especially if the Three Leaf Clover mission may involve grabbing the money that's left) so earlier in the game.

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I am sure during the game we will meet Teddy Benavidez as well (whom Niko shoots / shoves / explodes off the top of that building in that mission from Ray Boccino - A Long way to Fall), as he is involved with the Northwood Dominican Drug Dealers, and quite high up apparently. He may be a character similar to Jason, in that he plays a minor role, but is killed off, and the Drug Dealers then start a serious feud/war/vendetta with the Pegorino mob, whom they blame for his death.

That's exactly what I was thinking of! He might be more like Jim though. Like he is a friend for a portion of the game, until killed off (he was only killed in Ray Boccino's missions, which are quite late in the game).

 

Assuming that Luis' story begins during his perspective of the events during Three Leaf Clover, then Teddy's death wouldn't be that far into Luis' story. So he could infact be the Jason of episode 2.

That's a reasonable theory, but I think Luis' stroy would start a little eariler. After all, you wouldn't ahve such a major crossover (especially if the Three Leaf Clover mission may involve grabbing the money that's left) so earlier in the game.

If he gets big money early doors, what`s gonna be his motivation? He`s rich.

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One thing I noticed about Luis is that odd, when he is inside a building he talks with an American Accent but when he is outside in the open he lets out his thick Dominican Accent. I think he does that so that his Bosses dont know where he has went outside of his job so he cant get killed or hunted down.

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