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The Second Episode


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Another clue in, '' Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend'', is that you don't see Gay Tony and Luis come or leave  in a car, because when you control a protagonist, you can come in any sort of vehicle. Like for example, we never saw johnny come from any vehicle when we saw him in any of the missions.

I guess as you drive off with Gracie you will hear gunshots.

But in the museum piece mission Luis definitely has an AK-47, so if they want to recycle that cutscene presumably you have to have an AK-47 for that mission or the continuity would not really work... I guess R* will have to work that in...

in the heroin deal cutscene johnny has an AK. but as soon as the cutscene was over, i went back to my double barrel. i dont think i even had access to an AK at that point in the game.

 

on a side note, i went back to the libertonian museum and roamed around. there is a ladder back there that leads up to the window Luis shot out of. you can also climb to the roof from there. on the roof there is a door that goes into a stairwell (but you cant open the door)

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Did anyone notice that all the protagonists so far have had Grand Theft Auto as a criminal record? Thought it would be interesting to bring up.

Yes it's been brought up a few times before. sarcasm.gif

 

 

I haven't played Diamond's Are A Girl's best friend recently, so did Niko notice who Luis was?

 

Hmm, well not really. Niko didn't even looked like he recognized Luis from "Museum Piece" and "Three Leaf Clover". Then Bulgarin and the Russian dudes interrupted. If you want, you can check out the video here:

 

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Actualy Niko does notice Luis's appearance. If you call Roman soon after finishing Diamond's Are A girl's Best Friend, Niko talks about coincidences and events happening by fate. He says to Roman he found it weird that the "Dominican looking guy" who stole the diamons traded it for the girl.

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I wonder what kind of new guns we will see. Seeing as how Luis is more gangster maybe we will see a new machine pistol.

 

I'd personally like to see a revolver, be it a .32 for the Death Wish reference, a .44 for it's general badass-ness, or a .357 as a returning weapon. I'd much rather see an MP5 instead of a Tec-9, never really liked it in Vice City and SanAn. Also, an M60 or M249 would be great for the Heavy slot.

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This post has nothing to with Luis, but something I think should be discussed.

 

I was really disappointed with the weapons in GTA IV. I know they're going for realism in this canon, so it is understandable that something like a minigun was excluded. But there are some very realistic choices that I felt deserved to be in, like a revolver. A revolver could possibly be its own category.

 

Something else that disappointed me was melee weapons. A baseball bat and knife isn't really enough. I'd like a chainsaw, which is plenty realistic, maybe a lead pipe too.I think a taser and chainsaw could be in their own category. Perhaps what I missed the most was the lack of brass knuckles. Fist fights are very fun, and they would be so great. Also, why not add a nightstick to the policemen's arsenal, it adds realism.

 

I am sad at the choices of the lost and damned. A pool cue? Really? There are many better choices as I illustrated. The new pistol should be replaced with a revolver as well. Otherwise it's kind of meh.

 

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So if that's my main concern, my secondary concern, which is almost equal and I hope to see fixed is the lack of car customization. With the great new physics system, and tons of great new cars, why is it we can't customize them? A big garage would also be nice, I don't want them getting damaged by bad drivers, or jacked by policemen without a vehicle.

 

Anyway, I'm rambling. First post.

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I'm not sure if this belongs here but here are some ideas I came up with for the second episode.

 

New Songs

 

The Vibe 98.8

Timberland-The Way I Are

 

 

The Beat 102.7

 

Savage-Swing

 

Kanye West-Heartless

 

Eminem ft. Dr. Dre and 50 Cent-Crack a Bottle

 

 

The Classics 104.1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Electro Choc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Radio Broker

 

 

 

Gorillaz-Clint East Wood

 

 

Tuff Gong Radio

Sean Kingston-Beautiful Girls

 

Wayne Wade-Lady

 

Ini Kamoze-World A Reggae

 

311-Amber

 

 

Liberty City Hardcore

 

Rob Zombie-Super Beast

 

Linkin Park-In The End

 

 

 

Slipknot-Psychosocial

 

 

New Weapons (click on weapon name to see image)

 

M240

 

FN SCAR

 

SR-25

 

HK416

 

New Websites

 

Newbtube: A parody of youtube, contains videos made by various citizens of Liberty City, most videos show NPC's getting hurt, getting into car accidents or doing stupid things.

 

Boobgrounds: A parody of Newgounds, this site contains little mini games and activities.

 

BelicInterprises: A site run by Roman Belic, you can goto this site and have a taxi be ordered to pick you up.

 

Any Comments, Questions, Ideas?

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I wonder what kind of new guns we will see. Seeing as how Luis is more gangster maybe we will see a new machine pistol.

 

I'd personally like to see a revolver, be it a .32 for the Death Wish reference, a .44 for it's general badass-ness, or a .357 as a returning weapon. I'd much rather see an MP5 instead of a Tec-9, never really liked it in Vice City and SanAn. Also, an M60 or M249 would be great for the Heavy slot.

I agree completely with the revolver/m249 but the mp10(which was in GTA IV) is basically a reskined MP5. If the did bring it back the MP5 would be the same as the SMG we have now. But they could do what they did with the combat shotgun and reskin it to look like an MP5. That would be pretty cool.

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I wonder what kind of new guns we will see. Seeing as how Luis is more gangster maybe we will see a new machine pistol.

 

I'd personally like to see a revolver, be it a .32 for the Death Wish reference, a .44 for it's general badass-ness, or a .357 as a returning weapon. I'd much rather see an MP5 instead of a Tec-9, never really liked it in Vice City and SanAn. Also, an M60 or M249 would be great for the Heavy slot.

I agree completely with the revolver/m249 but the mp10(which was in GTA IV) is basically a reskined MP5. If the did bring it back the MP5 would be the same as the SMG we have now. But they could do what they did with the combat shotgun and reskin it to look like an MP5. That would be pretty cool.

I think that the weapon that needs to come back is the Flamethrower.

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god no, no ditzy music please in that station:

 

it has to be good electro house music such as Frankie Knuckles, Alex Gopher, Deadmau5

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god no,  no ditzy music please in that station:

 

it has to be good electro house music such as Frankie Knuckles, Alex Gopher, Deadmau5

I moved those songs from Electro Choc and placed them into The Vibe.

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This has probably been mentioned in this thread... but it seems like a shoe-in that you play as this guy.

In Lost and Damned, and probably in GTAIV as well.. go back to the Museum after the mission (or anytime). You can climb up the scaffolding and get right to the window where Luis stands to shoot at the diamond-trade. Also, at the end of L&D when the credits are rolling, it shows a cinematic view of that mission, with Luis running on the roof to an open window... If you climb up to the top of the Museum, you can go to the window that he's running to and it is propped open by a wooden board, where as all of the others are shut.

 

You can't go into it, but it's worth noting.

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Guys, It has to be Luis, think about it, who do you think gets the diamonds at the end??? HMM???

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thank god you aren't the music director the majority of those are trash. first off we dont need more rap i think they should focus on reggae and dub and bring back Kjah instead of tuff gong (witch consists entirely of Bob Marley) as well as more indie, hard rock, electronica and ambient.

 

second, you have multiple song's by the same artist witch is something Rockstar rarely if ever does

 

reason three, most of them are just crap songs, would you honestly want to hear "i kissed a girl" or any katy perry song while your flying through liberty city running drugs lady gaga stinks, snoop dog's irrelevant and most of the hip hop is way to mainstream, if i hopped in a car and heard t-pain's vocoder i would throw a controller through my flat screen and then proceed to rip the cords directly out of my surround sound because i realize its not my TV that's making an awful Steven Hawking impression, although i have to say Chris Brown would be great to listen to while beating up women in Little Jamacia.

 

come up with some real music and maybe ill have a different opinion.

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F*ck this nonsense. All DLC characters are in the Museum Piece mission. Who are my bets on? The Jewish Mafia guy, Isaac.

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I wonder what kind of new weapons they will put in this DLC.

 

I'd like to see a Silenced Pistol for sure. Possibly for some Stealth Missions.

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F*ck this nonsense. All DLC characters are in the Museum Piece mission. Who are my bets on? The Jewish Mafia guy, Isaac.

that would make for a very short DLC where you die at the end. lame

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Guys, It has to be Luis, think about it, who do you think gets the diamonds at the end??? HMM???

dude, a homeless man gets the diamonds at the end. one of the goons throws them into the garbage truck and a homeless man finds them later on in the garbage.

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i rekon luis wil the b the lonewolfeiest guy out of them all totaly ruthless totaly rufnek even more than niko nikos a bad dude but sumthin bout this chap, like jony and niko meet bcoz of ray hw the fudge duz luis no wats goin on, this guy will b a stealth sneaky spy type addin maybe even hoping wishing a stealth mode like in sanandreas on maddoggs mission to steal his rhyme book for og loc , anythoughts on that shizle deffently keen on that silenced pistol ph34r.gif

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I'm not sure if this belongs here but here are some ideas I came up with for the second episode.

 

New Songs

 

The Vibe 98.8

 

Beyonce-The Single Ladies

 

T.I ft Rihanna-Live Your Life

 

Timberland-The Way I Are

 

Katy Perry-Hot n Cold

 

Lady Gaga-Just Dance

 

Katy Perry-I Kissed A Girl

 

Britney Spears-Gimme More

 

Lady Gaga-Poker Face

 

The Beat 102.7

 

T.I-What Ever You Like

 

Chris Brown-Forever

 

 

 

Kanye West-Stronger

 

Chris Brown ft T-Pain-Kiss Kiss

 

Savage-Swing

 

Shop Boyz-Party Like A Rockstar

 

Kanye West-Heartless

 

Snoop Dog-Sensual Seduction

 

Eminem ft. Dr. Dre and 50 Cent-Crack a Bottle

 

 

The Classics 104.1

 

 

 

N.W.A-Express Yourself

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Electro Choc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Radio Broker

 

 

 

Jason Mraz-I'm Yours

 

 

New Weapons (click on weapon name to see image)

 

M240

 

FN SCAR

 

SR-25

 

HK416

 

New Websites

 

Newbtube: A parody of youtube, contains videos made by various citizens of Liberty City, most videos show NPC's getting hurt, getting into car accidents or doing stupid things.

 

Myplace: A parody of Mypace, players can set up a profile that contains their achivements, number of collectables found and their stats.

 

Any Comments, Questions, Ideas?

The remix of Dangerous is already in The Lost and Damned, so sorry, you won't be seeing a non-remixed version of the same song there.

 

Timbaland, way to go... very plausible as he is one of the major producers for GTA IV's soundtrack and works VERY closely with Rockstar.

 

As for the rest of those "iTunes Top Songs" you posted, I doubt none of them would appear, except for Heartless by Kanye West which is very plausible (Both GTA IV and TLAD had one Kanye West track).

 

I do hope that Crack A Bottle would appear, but it's simply not very plausible - if anything, it would be on 50 Cent:Blood on the Sand, not in a GTA game.

 

Also, Express Yourself was in San Andreas, and so was Cruisin' in my '64 (I think), they're not gonna reuse them, plus those are all West Coast Hip-Hop. Run D.M.C. is too old to be "classic" in the sense of the word in 2009, seeing as how a lot of the songs in The Classics are '90s.

 

And Rockstar would NEVER add Jason Mraz - Rockstar always has people with great music taste, sorry for you, unfortunately.

 

There is also already a parody of MySpace, called MyRoom or something, I forgot.

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The remix of Dangerous is already in The Lost and Damned, so sorry, you won't be seeing a non-remixed version of the same song there.

 

Timbaland, way to go... very plausible as he is one of the major producers for GTA IV's soundtrack and works VERY closely with Rockstar.

 

As for the rest of those "iTunes Top Songs" you posted, I doubt none of them would appear, except for Heartless by Kanye West which is very plausible (Both GTA IV and TLAD had one Kanye West track).

 

I do hope that Crack A Bottle would appear, but it's simply not very plausible - if anything, it would be on 50 Cent:Blood on the Sand, not in a GTA game.

 

Also, Express Yourself was in San Andreas, and so was Cruisin' in my '64 (I think), they're not gonna reuse them, plus those are all West Coast Hip-Hop. Run D.M.C. is too old to be "classic" in the sense of the word in 2009, seeing as how a lot of the songs in The Classics are '90s.

 

And Rockstar would NEVER add Jason Mraz - Rockstar always has people with great music taste, sorry for you, unfortunately.

 

There is also already a parody of MySpace, called MyRoom or something, I forgot.

1. I'll remove Dangerous, aswell as the other raps songs, except Heartless and Crack a Bottle.

 

2. Was that's supposed to be good.

 

3. I wated to make a soundtrack that would be a better representation of modern radio. That's all, besides Most of the songs I added I hate, except Heartless,Paper Planes,Crack a Bottle, and all the songs on EC and The Classics.

 

4. I Hope Crack a Bottle appears.

 

5. I really liked those songs alot, that's why I added them.

 

6. Like I said in 3.

 

7. Oh yeah, I forgot. Sorry.

 

 

thank god you aren't the music director the majority of those are trash. first off we dont need more rap i think they should focus on reggae and dub and bring back Kjah instead of tuff gong (witch consists entirely of Bob Marley) as well as more indie, hard rock, electronica and ambient.

 

second, you have multiple song's by the same artist witch is something Rockstar rarely if ever does

 

  reason three,  most of them are just crap songs, would you honestly want to hear "i kissed a girl" or any katy perry song while your flying through liberty city running drugs  lady gaga stinks, snoop dog's irrelevant and most of the hip hop is way to mainstream, if i hopped in a car and heard t-pain's vocoder i would throw a controller through my flat screen and then proceed to rip the cords directly out of my surround sound because i realize its not my TV that's making an awful Steven Hawking impression, although i have to say Chris Brown would be great to listen to while beating up women in Little Jamacia.

 

come up with some real music and maybe ill have a different opinion.

Like I said to iPetrovic, I was trying to make the radio be a little bit more accurate to what it is today. But after reading you and his comments I'm gonna remove most of the songs.

 

OK so I udated the soundtrack and removed most of the songs, here it is.. Later I'll try to think of some songs for Tuff Gong.

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Did anyone notice that all the protagonists so far have had Grand Theft Auto as a criminal record? Thought it would be interesting to bring up.

Yes it's been brought up a few times before. sarcasm.gif

 

 

I haven't played Diamond's Are A Girl's best friend recently, so did Niko notice who Luis was?

 

Hmm, well not really. Niko didn't even looked like he recognized Luis from "Museum Piece" and "Three Leaf Clover". Then Bulgarin and the Russian dudes interrupted. If you want, you can check out the video here:

 

snip

Actualy Niko does notice Luis's appearance. If you call Roman soon after finishing Diamond's Are A girl's Best Friend, Niko talks about coincidences and events happening by fate. He says to Roman he found it weird that the "Dominican looking guy" who stole the diamons traded it for the girl.

Dang, I didn't get call him. Crap, that sucks ass. Now I have to start the game to go to that mission again and call.

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Maybe luis kills the homeless guy and takes the diamonds??? I don know. I just hope SOME kind of main protagonist gets the diamonds.

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I'm not sure if this belongs here but here are some ideas I came up with for the second episode.

 

New Songs

 

The Vibe 98.8

 

Beyonce-The Single Ladies

 

T.I ft Rihanna-Live Your Life

 

Timberland-The Way I Are

 

Katy Perry-Hot n Cold

 

Lady Gaga-Just Dance

 

Katy Perry-I Kissed A Girl

 

Britney Spears-Gimme More

 

Lady Gaga-Poker Face

 

The Beat 102.7

 

T.I-What Ever You Like

 

Chris Brown-Forever

 

 

 

Kanye West-Stronger

 

Chris Brown ft T-Pain-Kiss Kiss

 

Savage-Swing

 

Shop Boyz-Party Like A Rockstar

 

Kanye West-Heartless

 

Snoop Dog-Sensual Seduction

 

Eminem ft. Dr. Dre and 50 Cent-Crack a Bottle

 

 

The Classics 104.1

 

 

 

N.W.A-Express Yourself

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Electro Choc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Radio Broker

 

 

 

Jason Mraz-I'm Yours

 

 

New Weapons (click on weapon name to see image)

 

M240

 

FN SCAR

 

SR-25

 

HK416

 

New Websites

 

Newbtube: A parody of youtube, contains videos made by various citizens of Liberty City, most videos show NPC's getting hurt, getting into car accidents or doing stupid things.

 

Myplace: A parody of Mypace, players can set up a profile that contains their achivements, number of collectables found and their stats.

 

Any Comments, Questions, Ideas?

The remix of Dangerous is already in The Lost and Damned, so sorry, you won't be seeing a non-remixed version of the same song there.

 

Timbaland, way to go... very plausible as he is one of the major producers for GTA IV's soundtrack and works VERY closely with Rockstar.

 

As for the rest of those "iTunes Top Songs" you posted, I doubt none of them would appear, except for Heartless by Kanye West which is very plausible (Both GTA IV and TLAD had one Kanye West track).

 

I do hope that Crack A Bottle would appear, but it's simply not very plausible - if anything, it would be on 50 Cent:Blood on the Sand, not in a GTA game.

 

Also, Express Yourself was in San Andreas, and so was Cruisin' in my '64 (I think), they're not gonna reuse them, plus those are all West Coast Hip-Hop. Run D.M.C. is too old to be "classic" in the sense of the word in 2009, seeing as how a lot of the songs in The Classics are '90s.

 

And Rockstar would NEVER add Jason Mraz - Rockstar always has people with great music taste, sorry for you, unfortunately.

 

There is also already a parody of MySpace, called MyRoom or something, I forgot.

im fairly sure theres a version of youtbe called electrictit, but all the videos are removed

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Maybe luis kills the homeless guy and takes the diamonds??? I don know. I just hope SOME kind of main protagonist gets the diamonds.

Imagine? The next protagonist is the homeless guy in Vice. Never had a homeless main character before.

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Here's the updated version of my idea for the second DLC.

 

Grand Theft Auto IV:Return to Power

 

Plot: In March 2009, Luis Lopez is arrested and is charged for murder, theft and drug dealing. He is sent to the Alderney State Correctional Facility to spend the rest of his life there, a month after his sentencing,a riot breaks out in the prison, Luis manages to use this time to escape. Soon he is forced into hiding and meets Joey "The Gecko" Mirindaz, a computer technician and bootlegger. After Luis discovers that his old employer Anthony "Gay Tony" Prince was killed while he was in prison, Luis attempts to find a new employer but this leads him into trouble with some of the local gangs. Now Luis must make his way to the top again with the help of Joey.

 

Main Characters

Luis Lopez: The proantagonist, Luis is a Dominican druig dealer who broke out of prison a few weeks ago. Luis was once worked as a bodyguard for Anthony "Gay Tony" Prince. Luis, with the help of Joey, is trying to get back on top. Luis is currently wanted in Alderny.

 

Joey "The Gecko" Mirindaz: A 27 year old computer technician and bootlegger. Joey was caught crossing illeagaly over the Canadian Border into New Hampshire while carrying containers full of CD's with bootleg computer software. Now he is wanted in several states, including New Hampshire, Vermont, New York, New Jersey and Maine. He helps Luis throughout the story.

 

Francis Johan: The main antagonist. Francis was one of two inmates that escaped during the riot at Alderney State Correctional Facility, the other Luis. Apperently he used to work for the United Liberty Paper and plans on overthrowing it and replacing it with his own organization, when the ULP found this out, he was arrested. Now that he is out he wants to use Luis as a tool to gain power. His personality and use of people to get power is similar to that of Gary Smithfrom Bully.

 

New Songs

 

The Vibe 98.8

Timberland-The Way I Are

 

 

The Beat 102.7

 

Savage-Swing

 

Kanye West-Heartless

 

Eminem ft. Dr. Dre and 50 Cent-Crack a Bottle

 

 

The Classics 104.1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Electro Choc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Radio Broker

 

 

 

Gorillaz-Clint Eastwood

 

 

Tuff Gong Radio

Sean Kingston-Beautiful Girls

 

Wayne Wade-Lady

 

Ini Kamoze-World A Reggae

 

311-Amber

 

 

Liberty City Hardcore

 

Rob Zombie-Super Beast

 

Linkin Park-In The End

 

 

 

Slipknot-Psychosocial

 

 

New Weapons (click on weapon name to see image)

 

M240

 

FN SCAR

 

SR-25

 

HK416

 

Bowie Knife

 

Cross Bow

 

Stun Grenade

 

M60

 

New Websites

 

Newbtube.com: A parody of youtube, contains videos made by various citizens of Liberty City, most videos show NPC's getting hurt, getting into car accidents or doing stupid things.

 

Boobgrounds.net: A parody of Newgounds, this site contains little mini games and activities.

 

Belic Enterprises.com: A site run by Roman Belic, you can goto this site and have a taxi be ordered to pick you up.

 

New Collectables, Ducks

Like flying rats and seagulls, you must kill 200 these.

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If Luis does become the main character, I can see him taking the path of a slightly-ragged to riches type. I can see tons of sports cars being added as well as helicopters and speed boats seeing how he works for Gay Tony Prince. I also believe that Luis will most likely kill Mr. Bulgarin, but still lose the diamonds to some bum that went to Vice City (This was mentioned through the internet that some bum found the diamonds and moved to Vice).

 

I also believe Rockstar will begin GTA V as soon as this DLC is finished because L&D was basically Vice City, and DLC #2 is like San Andreas. You could probably expect a lot of features in DLC #2 if my theory is correct.

GTA V will likely be on 720/PS4.

 

There will probably be at least two more standalone games.

 

Episode two is coming out before October 31st 2009- so expect a full release title in Mid 2010.

Yeah this sounds right. It will probably be like how gta liberty city stories and vice city stories came out.

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