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The Second Episode


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Btw. I want that Bristol in the next Episode. inlove.gif

Maybe for GTA London happy.gif

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I still cant believe people are taking this twitter crap seriously, The one R* made, I can believe somewhat, but that "leak" of E3 where the 2nd DLC is mentioned, well, what can I say, its probabally just a bunch of morons making rumours. Untill this is mentioned by Sam or Dan Houser, or a senior R* employee, info on the official website then I will believe so, untill then, lets keep the speculation rolling in and not get side tracked by this.

What you mean the one that Rockstar made, you believe somewhat? It's actually official. At the bottom of the Rockstar Propaganda email, it shows that they're on Twitter now.

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Who thinks some of the new cars in DLC 2 will be the cars seen in CTW?

 

Graphically updated versions of the Formula R, Resolution X, Mk GT9, 500 XLR8, Style SR, CityScape etc?

I would really like to see those in game, along with some of the older street racers from San Andreas. I was even thinking of a whole mission set based around an underground street racing club.

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It's a small thing but I'm somehow surprised at the fact that no mission in either IV or TLAD whether it be a main or side mission requires you to drive a stretch. Somehow in the past games there was always an excuse to do so. Maybe if we play as Luis seeing how he's involved with Gay Tony, the mafia and clubbing there might perhaps be a Stretch involved. In the TLAD you chase Gay Tony's boyfriend in a stretch to retrieve the diamonds maybe we actually get to drive it.

 

Like I said it's a small thing, probably doesn't deserve mentioning but this is a forum afterall.

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SovietWarrior42
Actually, in TLAD, Gay Tony and Luis go an opposite direction than Tony's boyfriend, and the other bikers with Johnny go after them.
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maybe Luis takes GT & boyfriend to the deal in the stretch but gets a lost bike or jacks a car to chase the bikers.

 

good point versityle

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Where did you drive a limo in vanilla IV?

There's limos all over the place.. most are found in Star Junction.

 

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Where did you drive a limo in vanilla IV?

There's limos all over the place.. most are found in Star Junction.

I think he meant during a mission. And he said that you don't drive one in either GTA IV or TLAD by way of a mission requirement. I don't remember driving a Limo in most GTAs though so I don't see the point of what your saying.

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Where did you drive a limo in vanilla IV?

There's limos all over the place.. most are found in Star Junction.

I think he meant during a mission. And he said that you don't drive one in either GTA IV or TLAD by way of a mission requirement. I don't remember driving a Limo in most GTAs though so I don't see the point of what your saying.

In GTA III you drive Toni, Joey and Luigi to Salvatore's in a Stretch while weaving through triads. In Vice City you drive Love Fists Stretch and in all five games for Ps2 there's the side missions of collecting vehicles for export and a Stretch is always on the list.

 

The reason I was thinking this is because after owning GTA IV for over a year I never found myself driving a Stretch even though I see them occassionally and it got me to thinking "hm... you never have to drive a Stretch in this game"

 

The reason I brought it up in this section is because I was thinking of Luis' tie in's with the mafia and a club owner and my guess is that a Stretch would be invovled. Again it's a very small subject, it'll be forgotten about soon on this section.

 

In fact I'm a little flabbergasted by some of these ridiculous rumored titles floating around:

 

Blood and a Four Leaf Clover

Battle After All Fights Love Central confused.gif

City of the Hood

 

seriously, where are these stupid titles coming from???

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You mean Romans and Diamonds? Either way, it wasn't supposed to be serious.

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Good point. Versityle. Yeah maybe we'll see the Stretch limo in a mission in the second DLC. Good call, man.

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And in Vice City Stories you have to drive Phil Collins in a limo. I didn't finish LCS so I'm guessing that the limo was driven during missions in mostly every 3D GTA before IV.

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This is me...I think that they will do Packie, and they will base it more into the future...like after the missions with Niko..when Gerald goes to prision, I think you'll break him out

 

I also believe that if you do play as Packie, since he is Irish, most Irish people work with Scotish, so I think it would make a great return in missions for Love Fist, or just Fist straight up be on the soundtrack at least, but I really do believe it will be Packie instead of Luis.

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This is me...I think that they will do Packie, and they will base it more into the future...like after the missions with Niko..when Gerald goes to prision, I think you'll break him out

 

I also believe that if you do play as Packie, since he is Irish, most Irish people work with Scotish, so I think it would make a great return in missions for Love Fist, or just Fist straight up be on the soundtrack at least, but I really do believe it will be Packie instead of Luis.

What is it with this Packie delusion? Any ideas? He simply has none of the traits you would expect to see in a protagonist. A protagonist has to be able to go from dead funny to deadly serious in a flash, while keeping his credibility and integriity. He would have to make incredible, explosive situations seem believable for the player, yet be cool to control while freeroaming. I don`t think there`s an inch of Liberty City where the two protagonists we`ve had so far have looked out of place, and it will be exactly the same with Luis.

 

I`ll admit his missions were the most entertaining, and he`s a funny guy, but you can`t take him serious. Do you reaaly think R* will give us "Three Leaf Clover" from Packie`s point of view? Do you really think R* wil say, "In DLC2 you play a moron"? C`mon stop with the Packie wet dreams, aint gonna happen.

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This is me...I think that they will do Packie, and they will base it more into the future...like after the missions with Niko..when Gerald goes to prision, I think you'll break him out

 

I also believe that if you do play as Packie, since he is Irish, most Irish people work with Scotish, so I think it would make a great return in missions for Love Fist, or just Fist straight up be on the soundtrack at least, but I really do believe it will be Packie instead of Luis.

What is it with this Packie delusion? Any ideas? He simply has none of the traits you would expect to see in a protagonist. A protagonist has to be able to go from dead funny to deadly serious in a flash, while keeping his credibility and integriity. He would have to make incredible, explosive situations seem believable for the player, yet be cool to control while freeroaming. I don`t think there`s an inch of Liberty City where the two protagonists we`ve had so far have looked out of place, and it will be exactly the same with Luis.

 

I`ll admit his missions were the most entertaining, and he`s a funny guy, but you can`t take him serious. Do you reaaly think R* will give us "Three Leaf Clover" from Packie`s point of view? Do you really think R* wil say, "In DLC2 you play a moron"? C`mon stop with the Packie wet dreams, aint gonna happen.

Yes, thank you. That's what I had in mind as well. That's what I was gonna say. biggrin.gif

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Where did you drive a limo in vanilla IV?

There's limos all over the place.. most are found in Star Junction.

I think he meant during a mission. And he said that you don't drive one in either GTA IV or TLAD by way of a mission requirement. I don't remember driving a Limo in most GTAs though so I don't see the point of what your saying.

In GTA III you drive Toni, Joey and Luigi to Salvatore's in a Stretch while weaving through triads. In Vice City you drive Love Fists Stretch and in all five games for Ps2 there's the side missions of collecting vehicles for export and a Stretch is always on the list.

 

The reason I was thinking this is because after owning GTA IV for over a year I never found myself driving a Stretch even though I see them occassionally and it got me to thinking "hm... you never have to drive a Stretch in this game"

 

The reason I brought it up in this section is because I was thinking of Luis' tie in's with the mafia and a club owner and my guess is that a Stretch would be invovled. Again it's a very small subject, it'll be forgotten about soon on this section.

 

In fact I'm a little flabbergasted by some of these ridiculous rumored titles floating around:

 

Blood and a Four Leaf Clover

Battle After All Fights Love Central confused.gif

City of the Hood

 

seriously, where are these stupid titles coming from???

Yeah but two or three games is a minority man. So it's not like IV was the only game with no limo mission.

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I was messing around in the mission "Museum Piece" and noticed some things which I hadn't seen before.

 

First of all, the roof panel (which Luis is seen shooting during the end credits of TLAD) is missing. Normally this panel is always there, but for this particular mission it's gone:

 

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Secondly, I never noticed before that Isaac is hiding down there behind one of the boxes, so this is obviously who Luis steals the diamonds from.

 

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I don't know how obvious this was, but I tend to play through the missions pretty fast which means I usually miss these things. It doesn't exactly reveal anything new, but it's interesting nonetheless. tounge.gif

 

Also, during Three Loaf Clover, if you go away from the bank and come back later on, Luis is the only civillian remaining - all the others are gone for some reason:

 

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Hey academcs how`d you get 9970 bullets for your gun haha? This info appears often in this thread, but I`m glad you brought it back up because Ive done that mish again today, to see who the enemies are in the museum and they are all Isaac`s men. I originally thought there were some Ancelottis too, with Luis, but no. It seems Luis is a lone wolf on this. I think when we play this mission from Luis` POV we`ll be simply mugging Isaac for the ice and walking out the front door, past a lot of dead bodies.

 

As for Luis in the bank, it just shows he aint a random ped. He must have more to do in that mission when we see it from his POV

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MarshDanni

I wish this DLC have some change of clothes!!! not like The lost and damned (still awesome game) and I wish you can buy houses!

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Nice find adamcs... I think Rockstar was planning on this being the "Impossible Trinity" mission seeing how both Johnny and Luis are actually NPC sprites during it.

 

It's the same with Johnny When playing Museum Piece as Niko you actually can witness Johnny escaping so I think the same thing is happening with Luis.

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Great finds.

That's what i keep do, check these things.

Try to Look at the window that luis shooting from, try it in both games, maybe will lead us to something.

 

I have some idea. after the cutscene in museum piece i will chase after luis, from the windows down on the ledder and through a giant park XD

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The Notorious MOB

Yeah man that stuff has been said before but props for including screenshots. Here's a cookie cookie.gif good boy.

 

Something I find interesting though is that if you look at the shot of Luis shooting through the window... He's shooting directly at Isaac... but he obviously doesn't kill him as Niko has to do it in a later mission (Late Checkout).

He must have a really bad aim lol

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I did hundred of tests now...

Right after the cutscene i did airbreak mod through the windows, luis wasnt there, i looked around and he is nowhere.

I even checked the roof.. the only thing i found in this are (which is special) a lot of trash workers..

Maybe connection to luca?

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I also believe that if you do play as Packie, since he is Irish, most Irish people work with Scotish

Ehh... I don't know what kind of Irish you know, but in my experience (and I'm half Irish myself) the Scots are the only people that the Irish might hate more than the English.

 

In the end though I really don't think it's going to be Packie.

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Yeah man that stuff has been said before but props for including screenshots. Here's a cookie cookie.gif good boy.

 

Something I find interesting though is that if you look at the shot of Luis shooting through the window... He's shooting directly at Isaac... but he obviously doesn't kill him as Niko has to do it in a later mission (Late Checkout).

He must have a really bad aim lol

That`s why I said you simply mug him. There has to be some way Isaac survives and makes it to the majestic. The alternative is that you march him at gunpoint thru the museum and kidnap him, which I doubt.

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Maybe there is some other gang arriving in the museum trying to get the diamonds, too, but Luis kills them from the roof which is why he is shooting.

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