mkey82 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 If you want a loud card check out 4870 on above 50% fan speed. No, no, no, I possess the loudest card albeit, it is not installed. . The 3850 X2... May I propose a challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 If you want a loud card check out 4870 on above 50% fan speed. No, no, no, I possess the loudest card albeit, it is not installed. . The 3850 X2... May I propose a challenge? Me and elenman going for the burst eardrums awards maybe? Whoever doesn't have bleeding ears within an hour loses, although having tested out my mates 3850X2 a while back I believe it would be a very close contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerX5500 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 that computer wont be invented for another 2 years. you need to build a time machine first so you can go into the future 2 years, buy the best system around, upgrade it with 32GB of ram and 10way SLI with X2 cards. then come back in the past with it. this computer should just about let you play with all settings on medium in 1600x1200 @ 30fps Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel. Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 If you want a loud card check out 4870 on above 50% fan speed. No, no, no, I possess the loudest card albeit, it is not installed. . The 3850 X2... May I propose a challenge? Me and elenman going for the burst eardrums awards maybe? Whoever doesn't have bleeding ears within an hour loses, although having tested out my mates 3850X2 a while back I believe it would be a very close contest. I seriously though I was the world's only 3850 X2 owner, really. I think I'll win, Mkey. Thankfully, the n-260 GTX is a lot quieter, and doesn't leave my ears ringing after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachree Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Intel Core i7 965 Extreme Edition (3.2GHz / 6.4GT / Sec / 8MB) 26" Asus Wide MM LCD Monitör(WebCam / 2ms) MSI X58 Eclipse 6GB DDR3 1800MHz Corsair CL9 (3x2GB) 4 x 500GB Seagate 7200rpm 32MB SATA-2 (RAID 0) 22XDVDRW 2 x Point Of View nVidia GTX295 1792MB DDR3 7.1 Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme Cyber Snipa Stinger 3200 DPI LASER Gaming Mouse Enermax Galaxy 1000Watt (SLI) Revoltec GamePad Precision Zalman MFC1 Plus Fan Kontrol Alphacool Lcd Display 200*64 Pixel 3 x Akasa kasa fanı 12cm led uv Titan Fenrir Cpu cooler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicetopia Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 295 is a bad choice for GTA4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel. Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 295 is a bad choice for GTA4. As the game doesn't support SLI and onboard SLI will just be even more painful, I know, 3850 X2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aragond Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Pinky, it's only JUST occurred to me ... You're running a Qx9650 at 4.2GHz yet I don't see anything more than a Zalman fan controller for cooling? I'm profoundly curious: You ARE running more than just four 120mm fans?? If so, what? Individual CPU and GPU fans or cooling systems? Water cooling? Liquid Nitrogen? (PS; Anyone with bad things to say for the HAF 932?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicetopia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 You're running a Qx9650 at 4.2GHz yet I don't see anything more than a Zalman fan controller for cooling? Yeah because temperatures are such a huge problem for Yorkies and Wolfies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aragond Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 You're running a Qx9650 at 4.2GHz yet I don't see anything more than a Zalman fan controller for cooling? Yeah because temperatures are such a huge problem for Yorkies and Wolfies. Um ... que? Ok ... {looks it up} ... so a Qx9650 is a "Yorkie". You're being sarcastic ... but in which direction? That heat really isn't a problem? I'm only asking 'cuz Thales has some mass fanned-heatsink sitting directly on his cpu while Pinky has a fan controller. (And on that, if I may, what is the MFC connected to?) Sorry, but you're talking to a major n00b, here. Your sophisticated, alien-technology humour is lost on my mere mammal brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I'm only asking 'cuz Thales has some mass fanned-heatsink sitting directly on his cpu while Pinky has a fan controller. Im using a Zalman 9700 LED , pinky is certainly using a good CPU cooler too, or H2O. The 45nm quads are great to oc, no big problems with temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.R Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 295 is a bad choice for GTA4. As the game doesn't support SLI and onboard SLI will just be even more painful, I know, 3850 X2... It does support SLI with patch2 and 180.84. Problem is that to mutch load are put on the CPU so GPU scaling are bad but SLI are still supported and SLI bar is working, just not to the level it should be IF the load where put on the right place, hence GPU. Crysis and FC2 are the perfect example of how it should be done in a perfect game where GPU 2-3 do make a difference and even the fourth does make a difference but where the fourth are useless in rest of the games out there today. What make 295 bad are the low memory, only 895MB don´t cut it for GTA4 that needs at least 1GB and 2GB to be happy and only one card has 2 GB today, the nonreference superediton of GTX285. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaudevillian Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) 295 is a bad choice for GTA4. As the game doesn't support SLI and onboard SLI will just be even more painful, I know, 3850 X2... It does support SLI with patch2 and 180.84. Problem is that to mutch load are put on the CPU so GPU scaling are bad but SLI are still supported and SLI bar is working, just not to the level it should be IF the load where put on the right place, hence GPU. Crysis and FC2 are the perfect example of how it should be done in a perfect game where GPU 2-3 do make a difference and even the fourth does make a difference but where the fourth are useless in rest of the games out there today. What make 295 bad are the low memory, only 895MB don´t cut it for GTA4 that needs at least 1GB and 2GB to be happy and only one card has 2 GB today, the nonreference superediton of GTX285. Just because the bars come up does not mean its supported. I can get the bars to come up in any game I own. The second card is not running at all. It sits there turned on. Rockstar should use the second gpu as a physics engine or another cpu. Edited March 15, 2009 by vaudevillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicetopia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 use the second gpu as ... another cpu. Nvidia would like that, now wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heat84 Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 What do CPU's have to do with dogs(Yorkie and Wolfie)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicetopia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 What do CPU's have to do with dogs(Yorkie and Wolfie)? I meant Yorkfield and Wolfdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy-maus Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 look here. 1:03 unofficial patch helps all bad pc, gta iv runs on any pc However, to date is in German but in the next few days for other languages since its unofficialer patch 1.03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicetopia Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I'm not touching that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy-maus Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 no fear is not illegal, the link is a MOD for better graphics and better performance no fear habs I tested and it is gta IV runs very fast is not illegal to link mann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron123 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 "Palit GTX285 2GB is priced at JPY39800 (about $405) according to AKIBA." -In Japan you can buy this card for 405$ right now, it means that in few weeks you will be able to buy it from the US for some 350-370$, which looks good, now wa have to wait to the price of the Galaxy GTX285 2GB for comparison, in April the prices will go down with the entrance of the HD4890, so we have for what to wait. Link for more details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aragond Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 "Palit GTX285 2GB is priced at JPY39800 (about $405) according to AKIBA." Aragond is confused. Aragond think all GTX 285s have 1792 or whatever it is GB of memory. Aragond think this some kind of standard. Palit card scare Aragond. SECONDLY -- Please feast your eyes on my cutting and pasting of the web: Does this not strongly suggest -- while realising that each game plays differently -- that the HD4870 is less than ... well, pretty-much everything. Actually, all I wanted to confirm with anyone still listening is whether or not the GTX 285 (with, or without 2GB of ram) is better than the HD4870 X2s. In other tests, I see the Radeon on top of the table, so I'm kinda "WTF" to all this. (I ask because I am reading through Warlord's Feb 14 recommendations to maraca2020 to get the Radeon. Curiously, he recently recommended 285s to moi.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron123 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 To aragond: first , now your post has nothing with the real performance in games , now when you are talking about the gpu processing power you mean just the ability to count FPS, in this category the dual cards gives you the best performance, the problem with the high-end cards is the memory bottleneck at settings that requires more than 896MB or 1024MB, the sh*tty thing with dual cards is the lack of memory, only half can be used, the GTX295 and the HD4870x2 are stronger than the single GTX285, but GTX285 with 2GB can be much better in max settings of high-end games (and GTAIV) than any other card in the market, you can OC the GT285 2GB to extreme performance at high AA settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.R Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 295 is a bad choice for GTA4. As the game doesn't support SLI and onboard SLI will just be even more painful, I know, 3850 X2... It does support SLI with patch2 and 180.84. Problem is that to mutch load are put on the CPU so GPU scaling are bad but SLI are still supported and SLI bar is working, just not to the level it should be IF the load where put on the right place, hence GPU. Crysis and FC2 are the perfect example of how it should be done in a perfect game where GPU 2-3 do make a difference and even the fourth does make a difference but where the fourth are useless in rest of the games out there today. What make 295 bad are the low memory, only 895MB don´t cut it for GTA4 that needs at least 1GB and 2GB to be happy and only one card has 2 GB today, the nonreference superediton of GTX285. Just because the bars come up does not mean its supported. I can get the bars to come up in any game I own. The second card is not running at all. It sits there turned on. Rockstar should use the second gpu as a physics engine or another cpu. Sorry, but SLI IS supported in the game since 180.84 and patch2, that has been proven sevral times by now. Performance IS higher when both card is activated than only one and it is not within the margin of error during gameplay. I KNOW all my three cards working as it should in the game and not sitting in idle, but the game is stupidly CPU-demanding that the GPU:s cant do its work properly and show it. What Rockstar should do is put the load on GPU, where it belongs and not on CPU where it not belong. PhysX wont do anything in this game as wh already have quads and I7 that do the work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aragond Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 the sh*tty thing with dual cards is the lack of memory, only half can be used Why? Or are we talking about "..in GTA IV"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Why?Or are we talking about "..in GTA IV"? 4870x2 has 2gb but it is mirrored so you only get 1gb, same applies to SLI setups and crossfire, I did not know this either until I bought a 4870x2, I was quite disapointed. 1st uk shop to be selling a 2gb gtx285 http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?nov-2852 This damn gpu should be able to max the game fully at 1920x1200 Wish I held out a little longer, but every other game plays extremely good at full settings with my bfg gtx285 ocx so I'll pass, they should have specified an expected release date when news of the 2gb card came about. To be honest I think what is needed for playing this game at max settings and for it to run real smooth this might not be the card because even with the card I'm using with settings within the green it still has some slow down here and there, but by the end of this year I expect something out that would be worth jumping over to. The only way gta4 will really benefit from a 2gb gtx285 I think is if rockstar make some great optimizations with the game. I really need to confirm if my 4870x2 works properly or not so I know if I can sell it, damn ati with their bad drivers. Edited March 17, 2009 by Waynio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dethred Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 295 is a bad choice for GTA4. As the game doesn't support SLI and onboard SLI will just be even more painful, I know, 3850 X2... It does support SLI with patch2 and 180.84. Problem is that to mutch load are put on the CPU so GPU scaling are bad but SLI are still supported and SLI bar is working, just not to the level it should be IF the load where put on the right place, hence GPU. Crysis and FC2 are the perfect example of how it should be done in a perfect game where GPU 2-3 do make a difference and even the fourth does make a difference but where the fourth are useless in rest of the games out there today. What make 295 bad are the low memory, only 895MB don´t cut it for GTA4 that needs at least 1GB and 2GB to be happy and only one card has 2 GB today, the nonreference superediton of GTX285. Just because the bars come up does not mean its supported. I can get the bars to come up in any game I own. The second card is not running at all. It sits there turned on. Rockstar should use the second gpu as a physics engine or another cpu. Sorry, but SLI IS supported in the game since 180.84 and patch2, that has been proven sevral times by now. Performance IS higher when both card is activated than only one and it is not within the margin of error during gameplay. I KNOW all my three cards working as it should in the game and not sitting in idle, but the game is stupidly CPU-demanding that the GPU:s cant do its work properly and show it. What Rockstar should do is put the load on GPU, where it belongs and not on CPU where it not belong. PhysX wont do anything in this game as wh already have quads and I7 that do the work better. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 "Palit GTX285 2GB is priced at JPY39800 (about $405) according to AKIBA." Aragond is confused. Aragond think all GTX 285s have 1792 or whatever it is GB of memory. Aragond think this some kind of standard. Palit card scare Aragond. SECONDLY -- Please feast your eyes on my cutting and pasting of the web: Does this not strongly suggest -- while realising that each game plays differently -- that the HD4870 is less than ... well, pretty-much everything. Actually, all I wanted to confirm with anyone still listening is whether or not the GTX 285 (with, or without 2GB of ram) is better than the HD4870 X2s. In other tests, I see the Radeon on top of the table, so I'm kinda "WTF" to all this. (I ask because I am reading through Warlord's Feb 14 recommendations to maraca2020 to get the Radeon. Curiously, he recently recommended 285s to moi.) 1. a single 4870 is weaker then those cards, but it's also quite a lot less expensive. This goes on country-by-country basis, but here the cheapest 4870 is (more then) two times cheaper then the cheapest 280. 2. something is off in this image as x2 cards will outperform single cards in games that support it or at least match the performance of single cards. 3. if your have your budget in mind, 4870 is probably the best solution as it's cheap, especially after the recent price cuts. The 1GB version is noticeably more expensive (at least here), but it would be better (especially for GTA IV) on high res. 4. if money is not your biggest concern, IMO the 285 is the way to go. the 4870x2 card is in that price range, but 285 will outperform it. On highest resolutions they are comparable, but in the end a) Nvidia likes to bribe developers b) Nvidia has less issues with drivers c) 4870x2 is a dual card, no matter what. That means, games that do not support it, will use it like a single GPU. To cut long story short 4870 for price, 285 for performance. The only issue being GTA IV, which seems to like 280 a whole lot more then the 285. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoreMaster Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 i didnt even realize that my 4850 is way up there makes me happy to know that i didnt waste my money! My computer does pretty well in this game! Could be better but i dont think its going to get better from me upgrading but going to get better through Patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.R Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) 295 is a bad choice for GTA4. As the game doesn't support SLI and onboard SLI will just be even more painful, I know, 3850 X2... It does support SLI with patch2 and 180.84. Problem is that to mutch load are put on the CPU so GPU scaling are bad but SLI are still supported and SLI bar is working, just not to the level it should be IF the load where put on the right place, hence GPU. Crysis and FC2 are the perfect example of how it should be done in a perfect game where GPU 2-3 do make a difference and even the fourth does make a difference but where the fourth are useless in rest of the games out there today. What make 295 bad are the low memory, only 895MB don´t cut it for GTA4 that needs at least 1GB and 2GB to be happy and only one card has 2 GB today, the nonreference superediton of GTX285. Just because the bars come up does not mean its supported. I can get the bars to come up in any game I own. The second card is not running at all. It sits there turned on. Rockstar should use the second gpu as a physics engine or another cpu. Sorry, but SLI IS supported in the game since 180.84 and patch2, that has been proven sevral times by now. Performance IS higher when both card is activated than only one and it is not within the margin of error during gameplay. I KNOW all my three cards working as it should in the game and not sitting in idle, but the game is stupidly CPU-demanding that the GPU:s cant do its work properly and show it. What Rockstar should do is put the load on GPU, where it belongs and not on CPU where it not belong. PhysX wont do anything in this game as wh already have quads and I7 that do the work better. No. Oh, yes, it does. Now i have the GPU-Z log over the current each card draw to prove it to as temp means nothing for their working or not in a watercooled system where one card "heat up" the next. Edited March 17, 2009 by E.R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 295 is a bad choice for GTA4. As the game doesn't support SLI and onboard SLI will just be even more painful, I know, 3850 X2... It does support SLI with patch2 and 180.84. Problem is that to mutch load are put on the CPU so GPU scaling are bad but SLI are still supported and SLI bar is working, just not to the level it should be IF the load where put on the right place, hence GPU. Crysis and FC2 are the perfect example of how it should be done in a perfect game where GPU 2-3 do make a difference and even the fourth does make a difference but where the fourth are useless in rest of the games out there today. What make 295 bad are the low memory, only 895MB don´t cut it for GTA4 that needs at least 1GB and 2GB to be happy and only one card has 2 GB today, the nonreference superediton of GTX285. Just because the bars come up does not mean its supported. I can get the bars to come up in any game I own. The second card is not running at all. It sits there turned on. Rockstar should use the second gpu as a physics engine or another cpu. Sorry, but SLI IS supported in the game since 180.84 and patch2, that has been proven sevral times by now. Performance IS higher when both card is activated than only one and it is not within the margin of error during gameplay. I KNOW all my three cards working as it should in the game and not sitting in idle, but the game is stupidly CPU-demanding that the GPU:s cant do its work properly and show it. What Rockstar should do is put the load on GPU, where it belongs and not on CPU where it not belong. PhysX wont do anything in this game as wh already have quads and I7 that do the work better. No. Oh, yes, it does. Never worked with either my Ultras or 285s, always plays better with SLi turned off. Are you forcing split frame rendering or anything like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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