adri1456 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Based on today's specs (Intel's Core i7, AMD's Phenom II for starters) what is the best computer can build to play GTA:IV to its best ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 that computer wont be invented for another 2 years. you need to build a time machine first so you can go into the future 2 years, buy the best system around, upgrade it with 32GB of ram and 10way SLI with X2 cards. then come back in the past with it. this computer should just about let you play with all settings on medium in 1600x1200 @ 30fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter g Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 The FASTEST quad core you can find for starters, a healthy amount of ram and a card with at least 1g of video memory. Id suggest waiting for a card to come out with at least 2GB because my 4870x2 leaves me a little wanting in the view distance vs. resolution category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungGun Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 with my spces (in sig) i can run the game fine at 1280x1024. everything maxed but draw distance. But I'd say the Intel Core i7 would be the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) GTA IV, technically, runs to the best of it's ability on any system that meets the requirements. With the proper settings for the resolution you are playing, and the proper resolution for your hardware. Now, you want to play max? You can't afford it. Maybe you can, you could be rich as f*ck. So, if you are, your first start is one of these monitors: http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&rls=o...F-8&sa=N&tab=wf Next, you need a good AMD quad (intel quads have bugs, you need to apply a patch and you lose 10 percent - and I prefer intel and have yet to ever buy an AMD - so that says a lot that I am saying that, I suppose. If this is already fully fixed, by all means, I support Q6600) An i7 will not outperform a quad in GTA IV, it will be barely noticeable difference. Maybe in the future when there are updates to the way the processor handles its work, but for now, it's not quite the stellar jump as going from a C2Duo to a Quad. Let some i7 users come in, they'll tell you (I saw one man post about worst gameplay with an i7 after have an e8xxx Core2Duo!!!!! ) Video card? ANY GFX card made in the past 2 years with a gig of ram will eat IV and sh*t it out over and over - my 512MB card is only used 38% on medium textures and high everything else and 1680x1050, an HD3850, and on high tex it even works with no slowdown except a breif pause once in each long travel (unless my system ram is at half speed, which I must do for stability, system wide [not just for GTA], so I am stuck at Medium - no biggie, really not missing much, and static shadows look better and not so sharp in medium anyway). But you should wait because in 2 years, when VC is coming out, those monitors will be a mere 200 dollars, refurbished, and like 300 new. Edited February 7, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEWI007 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 First Build one of these............the rest is history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Copy the one in my sig, runs it just fine at 1920x1200 with everything at maximum. I only put setting lower because I want too, not because I have too. I prefer the water at medium setting and draw and detail don't make much difference above 60 to be honest, I already have modified the farclip multipliers so I can see the whole map at all times. No time machine is required, one would be handy for sending some of the trolls back to the dark ages where they belong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron123 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Look, To play GTAIV you first need a quad core, You don't have to buy the most expensive, even a cheap quad should do the job, The most important hardware for GTAIV is the CPU cooler, that is why you have to buy a CPU water cooler (even a cheap one) and OC your quad to 4.2-4.6 GHZ, and in addition you have to buy a GPU with high memory bandwidth (search for it). Today the best for GTAIV is a singal 285GTX with 1 GB of video memory (not enough but this is what me have in the market right now), You can try to buy an "HD4850 2GB GDDR3" and OC the memory clock (with water again) to have a usage of some 1.5 GB of video memory.-this OC card won't be graet for other games, just for GTAIV. The rig shouldn"t be very expensive just 700$-800$ without the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 If you push it to 2560, you will need 100 draw distances, or rather, they will make the difference - you are the perfect example of proper settings for that resolution and draw distance - anything more is just, like, a little worthless spec in the distance for you, right? Like, if you go higher, it's barely noticable/not noticable, or causes more jaggy horizon because of too much detail smooshed into too small space? "most important hardware for GTAIV is the CPU cooler" Yes, this. This is why many get these "slowdown after this many minutes" they have heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Cooling is your most important factor indeed, the standard fan settings on my 285s was inadequate. Factory setting was at 40% and initially I thought I had faulty cards as they constantly overheated, not with IV though as they run quite low temps playing it. I have upped the fans speed through Rivatuner and I am now running evga SSC clock settings with no temp problems at all. Liquid cooling, when danger den release the waterblock for 285s, will allow me to actually overclock to artifacting point instead of just as far as I can get till I overtemp. The water cooled CPU will allow me to much higher on the CPU, but I am happy enough with the speed. For now. At the end of the day it is about not cooking your hardware, keep an eye on temps and you will be fine. @chngdman: You are absolutely right, it gets to the stage the draw makes no difference whatsoever and is pointless wasting resources on things you can't even see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camdean Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Intel Q6660, CPU fan - Overclock to 3.Ghz ++ ATI - 4870x2 - Example card, I got this on finance from ebuyer, great deal, no interest in 9 months to pay. £36 a month is all I have to pay 6GB DDR2 Ram @ 900Mhz I have Gigabyte Motherboard: GA-EP35-DS3 Hanns G Monitor 28" @ 1900x1200 resolution. Works like a dream after the second patch, no other game has yet to even test my system out, that will change soon with a game 'Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising', any back on topic, this is just another persons build to give you an idea of what you may want or need. Always check your components are compatabile with each other as well, I found this out the hard way a year ago with a CPU that didn't work on a Motherboard I was trying to fit it on lol !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron123 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 . Always check your components are compatabile with each other as well, I found this out the hard way a year ago with a CPU that didn't work on a Motherboard I was trying to fit it on lol !! Well rigs is not lego, You first have to find a motherboard for your CPU model and check that it has a SLI support (if you want it), and the max DDR memory kind compatibility. Other then this, you shouldn'd have any compatibillty problems for modern hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 WTF?! To all the people who say there is no hardware that can run IV smoothly maxed out, you're wrong. There are even loads of people in GTAF who run the game maxed out. Take Thales for example, he runs it on a C2Q and a GTX280 at the absolute max settings. The i7 has been proven to handle IV extremely well even maxed out, a C2Q would do fine too. Couple that with a high end card like a 48XX series card or a GTX series card and you should be able to play the game maxed out. For the RAM, 4GB is enough, but getting more won't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hautala Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Hello. Buy an AMD Phenom II 940 and overclock to 3,5ghz on stock vcore. 4gb corsair dominator ddr2 ram nvidia 285gtx 1gb and a asus m3a78-t or equal motherboard. mine runs on fine fps but with a nvidia 8800gts 512mb, everything maxed out patch 1.0.1.0. and a pretty cheap system tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) Take Thales for example, he runs it on a C2Q and a GTX280 at the absolute max settings. The i7 has been proven to handle IV extremely well even maxed out, a C2Q would do fine too. Couple that with a high end card like a 48XX series card or a GTX series card and you should be able to play the game maxed out. For the RAM, 4GB is enough, but getting more won't hurt. Yes thats true, a quad at near 4 ghz + 4 Gb RAM + high end 1 Gb GPU will max this game HIGH - VERY HIGH - VERY HIGH - VERY HIGH - HIGHEST - 100 - 100 - 16 at 1680 x 1050 + good FPS 30 - 65 (generally 35+ FPS), without any bullsh*t crashes, RESC10, BSoD, memory leaks, lazy/pop textures etc ... . Im using also the farclip tweaked to 3500 (default is only 1500), so your view distance is even higher, and the blur tweak, disabling "static" blur and having a better looking motion blur. Click on the pic to enlarge 1680 x 1050. Edited February 7, 2009 by thales100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron123 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 WTF?! To all the people who say there is no hardware that can run IV smoothly maxed out, you're wrong. There are even loads of people in GTAF who run the game maxed out. Take Thales for example, he runs it on a C2Q and a GTX280 at the absolute max settings. The i7 has been proven to handle IV extremely well even maxed out, a C2Q would do fine too. Couple that with a high end card like a 48XX series card or a GTX series card and you should be able to play the game maxed out. For the RAM, 4GB is enough, but getting more won't hurt. Fat cats knows to max out GTAIV either, Don't forget them. However, they have to OC with stock coolers for 30 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diboze Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 @thales100: hi i am a big fan of your screenshots Do you use any special graphic tweaks to make it look like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastian1802 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I can sell u my pc If you want.I never go below 35 fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) @thales100:hi i am a big fan of your screenshots Do you use any special graphic tweaks to make it look like this? Hey, well i think youre a big fan of GTA 4 - thats how the game looks all GFX maxed at 1680 x 1050, + two tweaks i use - Farclip tweaked to 3500 (original is 1500) and Blur tweak, that eliminates all static tweak, keeping an improved motion blur. You can find these tweaks in the forum : Farclip tweak - http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=391989 Blur tweak (im using Tweak 6) - http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=386262 Edited February 8, 2009 by thales100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okei Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 there are some damn rich f*ckers in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 there are some damn rich f*ckers in here Some of us actually have jobs that require real blood and sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpgunit Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 there are some damn rich f*ckers in here Yeah, you're right... I guess I could spare myself some cash and buy a supercomputer instead, just to run GTA IV at max settings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emcax24 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 your first start is one of these monitors: god you guys are so stupid handing out your useless suggestions. wtf does a new monitor have to do with his game performing bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitch9 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 GTA IV, technically, runs to the best of it's ability on any system that meets the requirements. With the proper settings for the resolution you are playing, and the proper resolution for your hardware. Now, you want to play max? You can't afford it. Maybe you can, you could be rich as f*ck. So, if you are, your first start is one of these monitors: http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&rls=o...F-8&sa=N&tab=wf Next, you need a good AMD quad (intel quads have bugs, you need to apply a patch and you lose 10 percent - and I prefer intel and have yet to ever buy an AMD - so that says a lot that I am saying that, I suppose. If this is already fully fixed, by all means, I support Q6600) An i7 will not outperform a quad in GTA IV, it will be barely noticeable difference. Maybe in the future when there are updates to the way the processor handles its work, but for now, it's not quite the stellar jump as going from a C2Duo to a Quad. Let some i7 users come in, they'll tell you (I saw one man post about worst gameplay with an i7 after have an e8xxx Core2Duo!!!!! ) Video card? ANY GFX card made in the past 2 years with a gig of ram will eat IV and sh*t it out over and over - my 512MB card is only used 38% on medium textures and high everything else and 1680x1050, an HD3850, and on high tex it even works with no slowdown except a breif pause once in each long travel (unless my system ram is at half speed, which I must do for stability, system wide [not just for GTA], so I am stuck at Medium - no biggie, really not missing much, and static shadows look better and not so sharp in medium anyway). But you should wait because in 2 years, when VC is coming out, those monitors will be a mere 200 dollars, refurbished, and like 300 new. Intel Quads have bugs? I think you maybe talking about the TLB bug in the early Phenoms which caused system instability. It needed a bios update to fix which had the unfortunate side effect of hitting performance 10-20% No such bug exists in the Intel range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Next, you need a good AMD quad (intel quads have bugs, you need to apply a patch and you lose 10 percent - and I prefer intel and have yet to ever buy an AMD - so that says a lot that I am saying that, I suppose. If this is already fully fixed, by all means, I support Q6600) ::: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koronin Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 your first start is one of these monitors: god you guys are so stupid handing out your useless suggestions. wtf does a new monitor have to do with his game performing bad? Try playing it on a small lcd that's 4-5 years old, then you'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 An i7 at stock speeds rapes any older quad even when they are overclocked to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron123 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 An i7 at stock speeds rapes any older quad even when they are overclocked to hell. No, it is not. There is no big differnce between modern quad CPUs, the big difference is the cache memory which won't really improve gameing performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I mentioned monitors because he wants max, to play max, you need one of the monitors found in those google shopping results. If your PC build is to max IV, start with your monitor... Cache on your processor plays a big role in GTA IV. Just compare my 4MB cache and the performance I get with a e6320 to those with 6300's and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 your first start is one of these monitors: god you guys are so stupid handing out your useless suggestions. wtf does a new monitor have to do with his game performing bad? Shut the f*ck up. Who the f*ck are you to call others stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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