Red Dead Redemption General Chat

[Jabalous]

Red Dead Redemption made me appreciate rural nature and hiking more. This is a testament to how much I appreciate this Wild Western experience.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

I've started this on hardcore mode. It's brutal with the total free aim and low health and no automatic dead eye regeneration (not to mention low money, everything expensive, no war horse deed or any other horse deeds until I earn enough to buy one which will take a while, and no automatic new horse just by whistling) but it really feels like the right way to experience the game fully. It has a whole different vibe, everything feels so much more dangerous and real. Really have to plan stuff and take your time.

 

I don't know if I'll actually be able to complete it. Right now I'm not capable of surviving if enemies are coming at me on horseback since they move so fast and surround me and I die in like 2-3 shots, but I only have level 1 dead eye and not enough money or resources to have things to refill it so I think that will get easier. But I'm enjoying giving it a try and doing as much as I can.

Edited July 17, 2021 by billiejoearmstrong8

[billiejoearmstrong8]

I completed the game to 100% and achieved max honour and fame on hardcore mode . It actually gets way easier as it goes on, once you can afford a horse deed and once you get level 2 and then level 3 dead eye and once you earn enough money to buy stuff to refill it (and finally it becomes almost as easy as on regular mode once you get to West Elizabeth and can complete the final hunting and plant gathering challenges since then you can make free vittles for health and tonic for dead eye). You get used to the low health too, just have to be more cautious. Very hard at the start though and you do have to spend a lot of time earning money to refill that dead eye and making sure you're stocked up before missions/gang hideouts/bounty hunting.

 

I recommend it! Having to take your time and plan like that and the level of danger always being higher and the extra difficulty at times adds a lot to the experience. I'm now totally sold on using free aim in this game too, combined with dead eye it works really well and feels really good and isn't even that difficult. 

Edited August 14, 2021 by billiejoearmstrong8

[XerostarTG]

11 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

I completed the game to 100% and achieved max honour and fame on hardcore mode . It actually gets way easier as it goes on, once you can afford a horse deed and once you get level 2 and then level 3 dead eye and once you earn enough money to buy stuff to refill it (and finally it becomes almost as easy as on regular mode once you get to West Elizabeth and can complete the final hunting and plant gathering challenges since then you can make free vittles for health and tonic for dead eye). You get used to the low health too, just have to be more cautious. Very hard at the start though and you do have to spend a lot of time earning money to refill that dead eye and making sure you're stocked up before missions/gang hideouts/bounty hunting.

 

I recommend it! Having to take your time and plan like that and the level of danger always being higher and the extra difficulty at times adds a lot to the experience. I'm now totally sold on using free aim in this game too, combined with dead eye it works really well and feels really good and isn't even that difficult. 

 

This mode was golden. I always love to do a replay through it. If you know where several hidden chests are and how to do various "territory" glitches the game is wicked easy (except for bears, cougars, and those feisty boars), but of course it is not meant to be easy (so do as you want). Hardcore makes every fight seem very intense and every moment a true struggle, I wish RDR2 had this, but I already know why there is not any in it.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

42 minutes ago, XerostarTG said:

 

This mode was golden. I always love to do a replay through it. If you know where several hidden chests are and how to do various "territory" glitches the game is wicked easy (except for bears, cougars, and those feisty boars), but of course it is not meant to be easy (so do as you want). Hardcore makes every fight seem very intense and every moment a true struggle, I wish RDR2 had this, but I already know why there is not any in it.

 

Oh yeah I do know how to get to Mexico and West Elizabeth early with the camping glitch and the best ways to make money . I actually maxed out my money on my regular save lol ($999,999). mostly just by hunting since I got addicted to it - that's why I decided to give hardcore mode a go! A good way to have loads of cash early is when you do the stranger mission that requires playing liar's dice with a $200 bet (meaning a $400 profit when winning against two players), instead of quitting after winning the required one time you just keep anteing up and winning over and over as many times as you want and can rack up thousands in a couple of hours (since as long as you don't quit/cash out the bet will stay at $200 each time and won't go back to the usual $20 or whatever it is). The thing I like about doing all that is you can get a lot of weapons like tomahawks/explosive rifle/carcano rifle/evans repeater/mauser pistol etc early on and it's cool to use them in early missions where you wouldn't usually have access to them yet. Plus being able to make vittles and tonic through the whole game is very useful.

 

I decided not to go to other territories early and stuff in my hardcore mode playthrough since I didn't want to "undo" the harder difficulty. And sometimes I don't do it even on regular mode just because it makes the story/progression better and feels more authentic/satisfying. But it's cool to have the option.

Edited August 14, 2021 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Peckinpah]

Been playing this again the last month or two through PSNow, which has been running really well for me, thankfully.

 

This can't just be nostalgia but damn, has this game aged like fine wine. The art style really hasn't gotten old for me, I'd imagine most feel the same way. The music score, the voice acting, the direction, the world, f*ck me Rockstar really shot to the moon with this game. 

 

This ranks up there with the very best of Westerns in Film and Novel form, each and every single person involved with this game are amongst the greats in the Westerns Pantheon.

 

We should always be able to go back to our time spent with John and those he meets across New Austin and Nuevo Paraiso. Just like how we can go back and watch Red River, The Wild Bunch, True Grit, and read novels again like Lonesome Dove and Butchers Crossing. I hope a remaster happens and makes this possible for everyone on current and future console generations and on the PC.

Edited August 20, 2021 by Peckinpah

[billiejoearmstrong8]

Thought of another thing to do on my main save where I've done everything and have max money - try to collect the max amount of every provision (plants and animal parts, you can carry 99 of each type). I wish I'd thought of this earlier because I've hunted so much and could've held on to the rarer items and low value plants etc. As it was I'd decided to finish the game with exactly one of each, so I was basically starting from nothing. I can't include buffalo (already killed and sold parts of the herd of 20 long ago) or "bears" (the ones called bears instead of grizzlies even though they look exactly the same) since they only appear in rare random events, I already have a couple of each so I'll be happy with that. And I might have to leave out grizzly hearts since they're extremely rare and I'd have to kill over 1000 grizzlies for that. But I'm surprised by how many I've already completed in not that much time. Turns out by far the rarest animal to find is the bobcat - even though I've spent ages in Mexico and Tall Trees I've only found like 20 since I started this. 

 

Edit: Few weeks later and I've now done this. Only have a couple of each buffalo and bear (not grizzly) part for obvious reasons and 20 something grizzly hearts due to their extreme rarity but I have the max 99 of every other animal part and plant. I'm a master master hunter lol. Thought I'd get bored and give up but I find going around the map and hunting/plant gathering really relaxing and satisfying. 

 

I still think the spread of different animals could've been done better though - you have to spend so much time in the small area of West Elizabeth because there's so many animals that only spawn there or spawn there way more than anywhere else that it renders other areas unworthwhile for hunting in comparison. Only things that aren't there at all are armadillos, coyotes, vultures, mules and 6/10 plants (and coyotes can occasionally spawn in the random hunting event and vultures in the stolen wagon one, and you can spawn mules yourself with deeds). I did find when doing this that Mexico is far better than New Austin for skunks and armadillos (and has the added bonus of bobcats and wild goats while you're at it) whereas before I thought Mexico was the worst place to hunt, but there's still very little reason to hunt in Mexico and virtually no reason to hunt in New Austin since everything you find there can be found in higher numbers elsewhere. They should've put lots of unique animals in each of the three areas.

Edited September 23, 2021 by billiejoearmstrong8

[billiejoearmstrong8]

I've noticed that occasionally in this game if a random person or animal is next to you, an enemy shooting at you will shoot them instead. It doesn't seem like a random stray bullet either, it's like, killshots aimed right at them and they're not blocking/in front of me at all. Happened to some random dude standing near me in the street in Armadillo after I pissed someone off. And another time I was advancing on the Tumbleweed mansion to clear out the criminals and a raccoon happened to be walking by like 2 metres to the side of me so it looked like we were a team lol, and one of them blasted it! Brutal. Must be something to do with how the combat is designed I guess.

[Peckinpah]

I finally got that f*cking Spurred to Victory trophy 11 years later 

 

Back when it originally came out I manage to get all single player trophies bar that one. Playing it again on PSNow with a new account I thought I'll go and try and get all the trophies again. Managed to get them all apart from that one, again! Then the other night I start a new game and focus on trying to get this and it popped when I got into Mexico. 

 

A genuine sense of having really f*cking achieved something.

 

One thing I did think was funny was the trophy for killing one of every animal in the game. I remember thinking that was one of the hardest trophies to take on back when the game came out. It was a walk in the f*cking park compared to Skin Deep and Zoologist. 

 

 

[billiejoearmstrong8]

16 hours ago, KelisFrazier said:

I personally like Red Dead Redemption 2 more, what about you guys?

 

Nope. It has some stuff that's better/improved obviously but I much prefer the gameplay of RDR1

[Darth_Cruiser]

3 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

Nope. It has some stuff that's better/improved obviously but I much prefer the gameplay of RDR1

Yeah RDR 2 is too slow and overly realistic. Faster gameplay of RDR is much better.

[stag3coach2]

RDR2 all the way. Much more content, most believable and immersive world that asks you to go slow on horseback enjoying the landscape and exploring every corner of the map. The gameplay is slower but much more entertaining. It is something that is not for everyone, but whoever wants fast gameplay has Call of Duty.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

On 10/24/2021 at 1:47 PM, stag3coach2 said:

RDR2 all the way. Much more content, most believable and immersive world that asks you to go slow on horseback enjoying the landscape and exploring every corner of the map. The gameplay is slower but much more entertaining. It is something that is not for everyone, but whoever wants fast gameplay has Call of Duty.

 

Slower can be more entertaining in terms of story and exploring the map. But in certain aspects of gameplay everything being so heavily scripted isn't a plus. I like how in RDR1 you feel like you have more control over your character's movements and everything isn't so scripted, especially during combat. Also RDR1 and RDR2 both have a problem of missions being too heavily scripted and lacking in freedom - but in RDR2 it's even worse with missions often feeling more like interactive cutscenes where you're told what to do at every moment and have zero freedom to move from the predetermined path or try anything different. If you like more "free" gameplay (in terms of physics/movement etc and in missions) RDR1 can be more appealing. It's less about speed and more about feeling in control of your character.

Edited November 1, 2021 by billiejoearmstrong8

[stag3coach2]

6 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

Slower can be more entertaining in terms of story and exploring the map. But in certain aspects of gameplay everything being so heavily scripted isn't a plus. I like how in RDR1 you feel like you have more control over your character's movements and everything isn't so scripted, especially during combat. Also RDR1 and RDR2 both have a problem of missions being too heavily scripted and lacking in freedom - but in RDR2 it's even worse with missions often feeling more like interactive cutscenes where you're told what to do at every moment and have zero freedom to move from the predetermined path or try anything different. If you like more "free" gameplay (in terms of physics/movement etc and in missions) RDR1 can be more appealing. It's less about speed and more about feeling in control of your character.

I guess it depends of the taste, but about the gameplay... Have you played RDR1 recently? The movement of the character is clunky and outdated, it's even behind of the movement of GTA4, an older title. In RDR2 the movement is much more realistic and responsive, more natural. The combat dynamic is also improved in RDR2, much more realistic and organic. I don't really see the difference in the missions either, for me are pretty similar in both games. In some of them you have more freedom to reach the objective, in others is linear according to the story telling.

 

I love RDR1, but the movement of the character is not one of the things I like over RDR2. After playing RDR2 RDR1 feels a bit empty as you don't have to worry about eating, washing, sleeping or taking care of your hore, for some people it must feel tedious, but for others like me is just part of the experience.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

11 minutes ago, stag3coach2 said:

I guess it depends of the taste, but about the gameplay... Have you played RDR1 recently? The movement of the character is clunky and outdated, it's even behind of the movement of GTA4, an older title. In RDR2 the movement is much more realistic and responsive, more natural. The combat dynamic is also improved in RDR2, much more realistic and organic. I don't really see the difference in the missions either, for me are pretty similar in both games. In some of them you have more freedom to reach the objective, in others is linear according to the story telling.

 

I love RDR1, but the movement of the character is not one of the things I like over RDR2. After playing RDR2 RDR1 feels a bit empty as you don't have to worry about eating, washing, sleeping or taking care of your hore, for some people it must feel tedious, but for others like me is just part of the experience.

 

I love it . It is clunky in places but it's not in that annoying "too scripted" way (an example off the top of my head is how slow and annoying it is to be "guided" through doors in GTA V), I always feel like I have control of the character you know? And I think the combat is awesome. I find GTA IV/RDR1 similar and GTA V/RDR2 similar in these areas. Prefer the less scripted physics and combat in the former even if it isn't as smooth.

 

And yeah I like the option of doing all that stuff in RDR2, the level of detail is amazing and so immersive. At the same time though, it's kind of cool not to "have" to do it (or at least not to suffer any negative consequences or nagging etc for not doing it) and just be able to grab your horse and go. RDR2 is great don't get me wrong, but I think there's something to be said for that freedom of movement and to do what you want when you want in RDR1 as well.

[Alexlecj]

They never did explain what Bonnie MacFarlane was doing up at the Fort.

 

Why would a notorious rancher from Hennigan's Stead travel to Rio Bravo in the first place?

[billiejoearmstrong8]

3 hours ago, Alexlecj said:

They never did explain what Bonnie MacFarlane was doing up at the Fort.

 

Why would a notorious rancher from Hennigan's Stead travel to Rio Bravo in the first place?

 

Maybe going to or from Benedict Point to pick up some supplies? Or had some business in Plainview? Bit of a strange route to take (and I'm sure they really just didn't plan it out very well and you're just supposed to assume she was passing by on her way somewhere) but kind of works. Or maybe she wanted to go cougar hunting and she knew it was the best place for it lol.

Edited November 6, 2021 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Starbeth]

how do i level up to level 50 fast?

[Max Payne]

Even in expert targeting, John kinda locks onto targets with a light assist. Is there an option to make it free aim completely?

[billiejoearmstrong8]

23 hours ago, Payne said:

Even in expert targeting, John kinda locks onto targets with a light assist. Is there an option to make it free aim completely?

 

I thought it was? There's three settings which are locking on completely, snapping to the target and then free after that, and expert is free aim as far as I'm aware. Unless I just haven't noticed. That same expert setting is the only setting you're allowed in "Hardcore Mode" so I assume it must be as good as it gets.

Edited January 12, 2022 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Lemoyne outlaw]

its so cool how this game is over ten years old and im still finding new details. so i just started a new story replay. and after i met jake and was leaving the saloon. as i was walking out i saw a lady using the telephone in the saloon. i always saw the phone but i just assumed it was for decoration. she had the earpiece up to her ear. and was talking. unfortunately i was unable to hear what she said. due to the music. then after the call she put the earpiece back. i have never seen that before. has anyone seen it? is there a way to listen to the conversation? it reminded me of how in gta pedestrians will have phone conversations on the street. but i never knew you could see the phone in use in red dead redemption.

[Craigsters]

I just installed this on my alienware R12 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 LHR, processor 11th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 11700KF (8-Core, 16MB Cache, 3.6GHz to 5GHz w/Intel® Turbo Boost Max memory 16GB, 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200MHz, XMP, dell gaming curved monitor 27' 144Hz refresh rate and the lighting was awesome and the game crisp and clear, the game choose all  ultra high settings and I turned on the advance graphics settings in the games menu, only played  a bit last night during the night seen in the winter area to see how it looked

[Starbeth]

Red Dead Redemption is not showing up on my social club. I linked my psn to social club but its not showing. is this normal?

[D-Tunez]

On 1/16/2022 at 8:48 PM, Craigsters said:

I just installed this on my alienware R12 with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 LHR, processor 11th Gen Intel® Core™ i7 11700KF (8-Core, 16MB Cache, 3.6GHz to 5GHz w/Intel® Turbo Boost Max memory 16GB, 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200MHz, XMP, dell gaming curved monitor 27' 144Hz refresh rate and the lighting was awesome and the game crisp and clear, the game choose all  ultra high settings and I turned on the advance graphics settings in the games menu, only played  a bit last night during the night seen in the winter area to see how it looked

Thats RDR2, youre in the wrong place I think. This is about RDR1

[luckycanadian95]

On 4/26/2021 at 2:26 PM, Alexlecj said:

Here's the last version of my transcript of the game script (main storyline only): http://depositfiles.com/files/xeurd6ktq

 

The number of optional dialogue is nothing short of incredible. It still isn't perfect, of course, but we're getting closer to the complete experience.

Are you still working on this project? The wiki transcripts are great but they don't show optional dialogue

[Alexlecj]

3 hours ago, luckycanadian95 said:

Are you still working on this project? The wiki transcripts are great but they don't show optional dialogue

Yes I do!

I recently add a bit of dialogue I didn't have during "Bear One Another's Burden".

 

Here's the updated file: http://depositfiles.com/files/u2b75nrf3

[Drimes]

I don't remember inviting you to my country, gringo. How about a little taxation? I have a large family!

[GeorgeWashingtonxx77]

My favorite game of all time and nothing will ever change that. Goodness me does the thought of the summer back in 2010 playing this give me nostalgia.

Edited March 9, 2022 by GeorgeWashingtonxx77

[billiejoearmstrong8]

Just started a new game after not playing for a few months. The best thing is how beautiful the game world is, it's just so pleasant to be in those landscapes and listen to the ambient sounds and music. I was just completing San Andreas beforehand and the graphics look even more amazing after playing an older game as well. And definitely my favourite gunplay/combat in any game. Such an enjoyable and satisfying playing experience.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

I was doing the kill wolves with a knife challenge and while surrounded by a pack of them John said "Are you trying to eat me or rape me?" - never heard that one before  

 

Also I found during Spare the Rod Spoil the Bandit, instead of going in the farmhouse and shooting a couple guys downstairs and saving two women held at gunpoint by shooting the guys upstairs, you can do all of it without ever entering the house and instead shoot through the windows downstairs and then climb up on the outside of the house and shoot through the windows upstairs. Kind of rare that you can vary things much in RDR missions so I found that cool.