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Red Dead Redemption General Chat


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On 4/11/2021 at 6:12 PM, Alexlecj said:

Anyone knows what Landon Ricketts says before meeting the prison wagons in "The Mexican Wagon Train" mission?

 

There's two conversations, and I'm pretty sure the second one never got played to where it is supposed to end (the same goes for many missions).

 

(first dialogue)

John Marston: Luisa was pretty shaken up.
Landon Ricketts: She's angry. This war is getting dirtier by the day. People are being executed for just having an opinion.
John Marston: Allende seems to have more enemies by the day.
Landon Ricketts: Perhaps you would know. Rumor has it you've been making all kinds of new friends.
John Marston: I don't pay much attention to rumors.
Landon Ricketts: Just be careful, John. Keep jumping from one side of the fence to the other, you might just get impaled on it.
John Marston: I have to find these two men. With respect, how I do it is no concern of yours.
Landon Ricketts: Choose your tone wisely, partner. Remember who you're talking to.
John Marston: How could I ever forget?
Landon Ricketts: And who are you, John Marston? Apart from a rat feeding every other hand he can find? My name means something. All you've done is kill a few peasants. And the only real outlaw you've taken on dropped you like a bad habit.
John Marston: Now, I politely ask you to watch your tone, Mr. Ricketts.
Landon Ricketts: All I'm saying is... maybe there's a reason people round here don't wanna talk.

 

(second dialogue - supposedly incomplete)

Landon Ricketts: You must miss your family.
John Marston: It's the only thing that keeps me goin'.
Landon Ricketts: You know, you remind me a lot of myself. How I used to be. Stubborn and angry.
John Marston: You ain't changed all that much.
Landon Ricketts: I always thought I'd lived a charmed life. I've known wealth, respect, love, even fame.

 

Can anyone replay the mission, mess with their horse during the first dialogue, and see if the second one triggers earlier than it does? I know this work for other missions such as "Exodus in America" or "Justice in Pike's Basin".

 

I would obviously gladly do it myself but I don't possess the game at the moment and I don't really want to buy another console just for one game.

Never you mind, I got me the game with a PS3. Easier to record all story dialogues that way. 😀

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Here's the last version of my transcript of the game script (main storyline only): http://depositfiles.com/files/xeurd6ktq

 

The number of optional dialogue is nothing short of incredible. It still isn't perfect, of course, but we're getting closer to the complete experience.

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12 hours ago, Alexlecj said:

Here's the last version of my transcript of the game script (main storyline only): http://depositfiles.com/files/y5molge22

 

The number of optional dialogue is nothing short of incredible. It still isn't perfect, of course, but we're getting closer to the complete experience.

 

Wow that's great, thanks for your work!

 

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so i dont know if this was talked about but i was finishing another replay yesterday doing the beechers hope missions. and i was doing one of the jack hunting missions. and when jack asked why john had to go away. he said some things you start you have to finish. and that made me think of how john started his killing old friends journey with micah. but he wanted to end it with that. but ross forced him to finish it. i know micah and the rdr2 story was not thought of. but when john said it that made me think of it.

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Happy 11th anniversary to RDR1!

 

 

 

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Red Dead Redemption made me appreciate rural nature and hiking more. This is a testament to how much I appreciate this Wild Western experience.

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I've started this on hardcore mode. It's brutal with the total free aim and low health and no automatic dead eye regeneration (not to mention low money, everything expensive, no war horse deed or any other horse deeds until I earn enough to buy one which will take a while, and no automatic new horse just by whistling) but it really feels like the right way to experience the game fully. It has a whole different vibe, everything feels so much more dangerous and real. Really have to plan stuff and take your time.

 

I don't know if I'll actually be able to complete it. Right now I'm not capable of surviving if enemies are coming at me on horseback since they move so fast and surround me and I die in like 2-3 shots, but I only have level 1 dead eye and not enough money or resources to have things to refill it so I think that will get easier. But I'm enjoying giving it a try and doing as much as I can.

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I completed the game to 100% and achieved max honour and fame on hardcore mode 🤠. It actually gets way easier as it goes on, once you can afford a horse deed and once you get level 2 and then level 3 dead eye and once you earn enough money to buy stuff to refill it (and finally it becomes almost as easy as on regular mode once you get to West Elizabeth and can complete the final hunting and plant gathering challenges since then you can make free vittles for health and tonic for dead eye). You get used to the low health too, just have to be more cautious. Very hard at the start though and you do have to spend a lot of time earning money to refill that dead eye and making sure you're stocked up before missions/gang hideouts/bounty hunting.

 

I recommend it! Having to take your time and plan like that and the level of danger always being higher and the extra difficulty at times adds a lot to the experience. I'm now totally sold on using free aim in this game too, combined with dead eye it works really well and feels really good and isn't even that difficult. 

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11 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

I completed the game to 100% and achieved max honour and fame on hardcore mode 🤠. It actually gets way easier as it goes on, once you can afford a horse deed and once you get level 2 and then level 3 dead eye and once you earn enough money to buy stuff to refill it (and finally it becomes almost as easy as on regular mode once you get to West Elizabeth and can complete the final hunting and plant gathering challenges since then you can make free vittles for health and tonic for dead eye). You get used to the low health too, just have to be more cautious. Very hard at the start though and you do have to spend a lot of time earning money to refill that dead eye and making sure you're stocked up before missions/gang hideouts/bounty hunting.

 

I recommend it! Having to take your time and plan like that and the level of danger always being higher and the extra difficulty at times adds a lot to the experience. I'm now totally sold on using free aim in this game too, combined with dead eye it works really well and feels really good and isn't even that difficult. 

 

This mode was golden. I always love to do a replay through it. If you know where several hidden chests are and how to do various "territory" glitches the game is wicked easy (except for bears, cougars, and those feisty boars), but of course it is not meant to be easy (so do as you want). Hardcore makes every fight seem very intense and every moment a true struggle, I wish RDR2 had this, but I already know why there is not any in it.

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42 minutes ago, XerostarTG said:

 

This mode was golden. I always love to do a replay through it. If you know where several hidden chests are and how to do various "territory" glitches the game is wicked easy (except for bears, cougars, and those feisty boars), but of course it is not meant to be easy (so do as you want). Hardcore makes every fight seem very intense and every moment a true struggle, I wish RDR2 had this, but I already know why there is not any in it.

 

Oh yeah I do know how to get to Mexico and West Elizabeth early with the camping glitch and the best ways to make money :D. I actually maxed out my money on my regular save lol ($999,999). mostly just by hunting since I got addicted to it - that's why I decided to give hardcore mode a go! A good way to have loads of cash early is when you do the stranger mission that requires playing liar's dice with a $200 bet (meaning a $400 profit when winning against two players), instead of quitting after winning the required one time you just keep anteing up and winning over and over as many times as you want and can rack up thousands in a couple of hours (since as long as you don't quit/cash out the bet will stay at $200 each time and won't go back to the usual $20 or whatever it is). The thing I like about doing all that is you can get a lot of weapons like tomahawks/explosive rifle/carcano rifle/evans repeater/mauser pistol etc early on and it's cool to use them in early missions where you wouldn't usually have access to them yet. Plus being able to make vittles and tonic through the whole game is very useful.

 

I decided not to go to other territories early and stuff in my hardcore mode playthrough since I didn't want to "undo" the harder difficulty. And sometimes I don't do it even on regular mode just because it makes the story/progression better and feels more authentic/satisfying. But it's cool to have the option.

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Been playing this again the last month or two through PSNow, which has been running really well for me, thankfully.

 

This can't just be nostalgia but damn, has this game aged like fine wine. The art style really hasn't gotten old for me, I'd imagine most feel the same way. The music score, the voice acting, the direction, the world, f*ck me Rockstar really shot to the moon with this game. 

 

This ranks up there with the very best of Westerns in Film and Novel form, each and every single person involved with this game are amongst the greats in the Westerns Pantheon.

 

We should always be able to go back to our time spent with John and those he meets across New Austin and Nuevo Paraiso. Just like how we can go back and watch Red River, The Wild Bunch, True Grit, and read novels again like Lonesome Dove and Butchers Crossing. I hope a remaster happens and makes this possible for everyone on current and future console generations and on the PC.

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Thought of another thing to do on my main save where I've done everything and have max money - try to collect the max amount of every provision (plants and animal parts, you can carry 99 of each type). I wish I'd thought of this earlier because I've hunted so much and could've held on to the rarer items and low value plants etc. As it was I'd decided to finish the game with exactly one of each, so I was basically starting from nothing. I can't include buffalo (already killed and sold parts of the herd of 20 long ago) or "bears" (the ones called bears instead of grizzlies even though they look exactly the same) since they only appear in rare random events, I already have a couple of each so I'll be happy with that. And I might have to leave out grizzly hearts since they're extremely rare and I'd have to kill over 1000 grizzlies for that. But I'm surprised by how many I've already completed in not that much time. Turns out by far the rarest animal to find is the bobcat - even though I've spent ages in Mexico and Tall Trees I've only found like 20 since I started this. 

 

Edit: Few weeks later and I've now done this. Only have a couple of each buffalo and bear (not grizzly) part for obvious reasons and 20 something grizzly hearts due to their extreme rarity but I have the max 99 of every other animal part and plant. I'm a master master hunter lol. Thought I'd get bored and give up but I find going around the map and hunting/plant gathering really relaxing and satisfying. 

 

I still think the spread of different animals could've been done better though - you have to spend so much time in the small area of West Elizabeth because there's so many animals that only spawn there or spawn there way more than anywhere else that it renders other areas unworthwhile for hunting in comparison. Only things that aren't there at all are armadillos, coyotes, vultures, mules and 6/10 plants (and coyotes can occasionally spawn in the random hunting event and vultures in the stolen wagon one, and you can spawn mules yourself with deeds). I did find when doing this that Mexico is far better than New Austin for skunks and armadillos (and has the added bonus of bobcats and wild goats while you're at it) whereas before I thought Mexico was the worst place to hunt, but there's still very little reason to hunt in Mexico and virtually no reason to hunt in New Austin since everything you find there can be found in higher numbers elsewhere. They should've put lots of unique animals in each of the three areas.

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I've noticed that occasionally in this game if a random person or animal is next to you, an enemy shooting at you will shoot them instead. It doesn't seem like a random stray bullet either, it's like, killshots aimed right at them and they're not blocking/in front of me at all. Happened to some random dude standing near me in the street in Armadillo after I pissed someone off. And another time I was advancing on the Tumbleweed mansion to clear out the criminals and a raccoon happened to be walking by like 2 metres to the side of me so it looked like we were a team lol, and one of them blasted it! Brutal. Must be something to do with how the combat is designed I guess.

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I finally got that f*cking Spurred to Victory trophy 11 years later 🤣

 

Back when it originally came out I manage to get all single player trophies bar that one. Playing it again on PSNow with a new account I thought I'll go and try and get all the trophies again. Managed to get them all apart from that one, again! Then the other night I start a new game and focus on trying to get this and it popped when I got into Mexico. 

 

A genuine sense of having really f*cking achieved something.

 

One thing I did think was funny was the trophy for killing one of every animal in the game. I remember thinking that was one of the hardest trophies to take on back when the game came out. It was a walk in the f*cking park compared to Skin Deep and Zoologist. 

 

 

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16 hours ago, KelisFrazier said:

I personally like Red Dead Redemption 2 more, what about you guys?

 

Nope. It has some stuff that's better/improved obviously but I much prefer the gameplay of RDR1

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3 hours ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

 

Nope. It has some stuff that's better/improved obviously but I much prefer the gameplay of RDR1

Yeah RDR 2 is too slow and overly realistic. Faster gameplay of RDR is much better.

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