CptPusheen Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I understand Charlie. He is mod and he MUST read all this threads. We can just ignore stupid threads and post but he can't. I really admire his patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarber29 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 kn00tcn "except arec didnt purchase anything yet, right?" I purchased the game. What the heck is arec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungeoncrawler Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 If the patch had been officially withdrawn I firmly believe RS would have posted some type of info. Why? Because to many other gaming websites have links that are still active for the second patch. You don't withdraw a patch but then allow it to be freely distributed right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicetopia Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 If the patch had been officially withdrawn I firmly believe RS would have posted some type of info. Why? Because to many other gamingwebsites have links that are still active for the second patch. You don't withdraw a patch but then allow it to be freely distributed right? It was removed from the R* website and Windows LIVE. It's definitely not an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArecBalrin Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 People have the right to complain if the product they purchased has broken parts that have not been fixed. It's just funny the amount of people defending Rockstar. They really can't come up with any good reason to defend them. They can say "Can't you just be happy with a patch 2" or stuff like "Stop complaining" etc., but in the end, the consumer is always right-- give us polished products. except arec didnt purchase anything yet, right? I've explained repeatedly my reasons for posting on the forum in other threads where Charlie has had a presence. He's well-aware of them but continues to feign ignorance because I tend to leave a thread only after it descends to gutter-level discussion. I've been here regulary because I wanted to buy GTA IV but had deep reservations because of the state of Bully on PC(it still has not been patched and now no longer appears to supported at all going by the time it was since I sent them my dxdiag in december and have recieved no reply). I've been trying to get an accurate picture of how troubled the game is(I am already aware of how good it is) but this has been hampered at every turn by angry fanboys that treat any complaint about the game like it was a direct physical threat on their mothers. Getting accurate information has been almost impossible. I thought getting info from current players would be easier than it has been getting it from Rockstar but this hasn't really been the case much so far. In the end what has now got me to purchase the game is the Rockstar collection being included in the Steam weekend deal. Every R* game including GTA IV for £39 seemed too good to be true so I bit the bullet and went for it. So now I do have GTA IV and just need to download it. I'm no longer in the position I was in before except that I'm still hoping for a performance-focused patch, aswell as some proper answers for what has been possibly the most atrocious release for a high-profile game in gaming history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexX Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I am pretty sure we will see more than one patch to fix this game, the performance fix patch will have more than 34 MB (like 1.0.2.0.) probably around 100 mb or probably more. A few second downloadable patch does not make miracles, bigger patches fix more problems, literally. Larger patches aren't necessary. The performance of the game is directly dependent on the executable, supporting dlls/data files, and your system configuration. I don't expect future patches to be over 50mb, and you don't want them to be. The only way you'll be getting a performance boost from a larger patch, is if R* starts replacing models, textures and audio with lower quality versions and even that may not help very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt75 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 In the end what has now got me to purchase the game is the Rockstar collection being included in the Steam weekend deal. Every R* game including GTA IV for £39 seemed too good to be true so I bit the bullet and went for it. So now I do have GTA IV and just need to download it. What ever happened to ... "I refuse to buy another Rockstar game ANYWAY"? Sort of deflated that resistance movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarber29 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So, back to why the patch was withdrawn. Anyone's videocard overheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamesguru Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Rockstar haven't logged in for a day, that could mean only one thing Yes, that's true. It means it's the weekend. And there's me thinking Toronto worked over time (on the patches anyway) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 In the end what has now got me to purchase the game is the Rockstar collection being included in the Steam weekend deal. Every R* game including GTA IV for £39 seemed too good to be true so I bit the bullet and went for it. So now I do have GTA IV and just need to download it. What ever happened to ... "I refuse to buy another Rockstar game ANYWAY"? Sort of deflated that resistance movement More like a lot of them moved on and left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitro_hedgehog Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 In the end what has now got me to purchase the game is the Rockstar collection being included in the Steam weekend deal. Every R* game including GTA IV for £39 seemed too good to be true so I bit the bullet and went for it. So now I do have GTA IV and just need to download it. What ever happened to ... "I refuse to buy another Rockstar game ANYWAY"? Sort of deflated that resistance movement More like a lot of them moved on and left. not all of us with those signatures are gone *see below*. but i'm not like the rest of them. i'm not buying any more of their games because of the state the game was released in AND all of the sneaky moves and BS speeches (you know, about the future proofing and the "only 1% have any major issues" mess.). thats not a company i want to purchase from again. patch works fine for me, though removing it is pretty suspicious. some people have missing hotdog stands and nonfunctional computer cafes. thats hardly a good reason to withdrawl a patch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArecBalrin Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 In the end what has now got me to purchase the game is the Rockstar collection being included in the Steam weekend deal. Every R* game including GTA IV for £39 seemed too good to be true so I bit the bullet and went for it. So now I do have GTA IV and just need to download it. What ever happened to ... "I refuse to buy another Rockstar game ANYWAY"? Sort of deflated that resistance movement I have also explained my sig, repeatedly and even had to quote Aristotle at someone just to make sure they didn't think the idea of hypotheticals and abstracts was a new invention by anonymous smacktards on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitro_hedgehog Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) In the end what has now got me to purchase the game is the Rockstar collection being included in the Steam weekend deal. Every R* game including GTA IV for £39 seemed too good to be true so I bit the bullet and went for it. So now I do have GTA IV and just need to download it. What ever happened to ... "I refuse to buy another Rockstar game ANYWAY"? Sort of deflated that resistance movement I have also explained my sig, repeatedly and even had to quote Aristotle at someone just to make sure they didn't think the idea of hypotheticals and abstracts was a new invention by anonymous smacktards on the internet. so you finally bought the game? congrats. maybe your petty arguments against charming charlie will be slightly less annoying now.... and before you go into an unnecessarily long rant against me. go read everything you posted for charming charlie. i'm sorry. but it screams troll. Edited February 2, 2009 by nitro_hedgehog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainDingo Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 In the end what has now got me to purchase the game is the Rockstar collection being included in the Steam weekend deal. Every R* game including GTA IV for £39 seemed too good to be true so I bit the bullet and went for it. So now I do have GTA IV and just need to download it. What ever happened to ... "I refuse to buy another Rockstar game ANYWAY"? Sort of deflated that resistance movement More like a lot of them moved on and left. not all of us with those signatures are gone *see below*. but i'm not like the rest of them. i'm not buying any more of their games because of the state the game was released in AND all of the sneaky moves and BS speeches (you know, about the future proofing and the "only 1% have any major issues" mess.). thats not a company i want to purchase from again. patch works fine for me, though removing it is pretty suspicious. some people have missing hotdog stands and nonfunctional computer cafes. thats hardly a good reason to withdrawl a patch.... Just to correct you, only people who cracked their game have issues with computer cafes. Nobody who owns a non-pirate copy has this problem unless they bought a physical copy and used a no-CD crack on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 If the patch had been officially withdrawn I firmly believe RS would have posted some type of info. Why? Because to many other gamingwebsites have links that are still active for the second patch. You don't withdraw a patch but then allow it to be freely distributed right? It was removed from the R* website and Windows LIVE. It's definitely not an accident. If it isn't an accident, I don't think they would have let the patch title and description carry the info about v1.0.2.0. They would have changed that back to v1.0.1.0 at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 It also seems rather silly to remove the 1.0.2.0 patch since you now need that patch to play online. So if they have killed 1.0.2.0 they have effectively killed off MP for anyone that buys the game at the moment. Rockstar have never been known for their up to date websites. This just smells like a cock up by them rather than something they did "intentionally". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Well if you really can't download the patch anymore from Live, I would almost assume they withdrew from the patch. But I haven't seen a lot of good reasons for withdrawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Just to correct you, only people who cracked their game have issues with computer cafes. People have reported they have that problem even though they didn't use any cracks. Other people said they needed a clean windows(gta iv install to get it working properly, after using a crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Just to correct you, only people who cracked their game have issues with computer cafes. People have reported they have that problem even though they didn't use any cracks. Those people are liars. The later part of your post, maybe. But those people are liars. I noticed someone here proclaimed their right to cry, and how the consumer is always right. Not to be a dick, but cry in the right place, maybe? Like, this is not a customer support forum, Toronto being here is only a convenience because it's a smart way to handle one problem for many at a time and cut down on support tech calls on a 1-on-1 basis, and aside from that, it is probably just a forum moderator or administrator here speaking on behalf of them (IE: emailing about stuff, then signing in here on that name on their behalf) Irregardless, this is not a place to bitch and complain - bitch and complain to the source of your issues or start a new domain f*ckrockstar.com/IV or something because this place is to help each other, you know? We're all peers here, and I can see a lot of people get offended and just don't understand that it's because you're preaching to the choir half of the time, and the other half of the time you're just doing it on the wrong place. GTAForums aint the place to do that and I think the staff here is really forgiving of a lot of out-of-place R* bashing. Yea, sure, Changed Man is known for this Rockstar Support sh*t, but hey, my game works Very Very Well on minimum CPU, and I take time out to help others. I want to help you - by hearing your problem and having you politely ask me. I don't want to feel obliged to explain that which i explained above and also to note that it is a turn off as a person who shouldn't be being yelled at, and watching others who also shouldnt be yelled at... well... be yelled at. Mouth off to rockstar or start some class action or something, in the mean time, please guys, can we try to get your games running right? And, on an unrelated note, I am appalled at how many people have a frikking opinion and they don't even own the game and some even admit they have never even played it - any version. Retards. mates, lets just be smarter... trust me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 You know, I think what happened is that Cockstar realised that this second "patch" is even more worse than the first "patch" and now they are trying to cover up their act by making a new patch and calling it the second patch to look good. You used to be my favourite game developer EVER, but now I just f*cking pity you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punisher.ita Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 You know, I think what happened is that Cockstar realised that this second "patch" is even more worse than the first "patch" and now they are trying to cover up their act by making a new patch and calling it the second patch to look good. You used to be my favourite game developer EVER, but now I just f*cking pity you. I must totally quote this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 What are you saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 You know, I think what happened is that Cockstar realised that this second "patch" is even more worse than the first "patch" and now they are trying to cover up their act by making a new patch and calling it the second patch to look good. You used to be my favourite game developer EVER, but now I just f*cking pity you. I sincerely doubt that. There was probably a server backup restored or something that didn't have the patch logged... you know, sh*t like that does happen online Rockstar wouldn't do that man, especially not after all of the 1% being so loud online. Yes, it truly is only 1%, the others don't count because they have laptops, do not meet the requirements, stole the game, or suffer user/operator error or bad environment setup... Pirated windows is enough to make someone irrelevant on GFW... And... hmmm... has anyone, like... mailed them? lol. Maybe they will send you a baseball bat for giving them the heads up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 But there is a possibility of it happening too, right? I mean, they havn't exactly treated PC customers well for all this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Well, I have to give you the benefit of the doubt the same as I give them. let's hope that though it's possible they are being sneaky, let's hope, it's just a foul up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 You know, I think what happened is that Cockstar realised that this second "patch" is even more worse than the first "patch" and now they are trying to cover up their act by making a new patch and calling it the second patch to look good. With R* it's easy to speculate, as they like to keep people in the dark. This theory seems perfectly plausible to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 LOL EVERYTHING REMINDS ME X-FILES SERIES)) I i would be FOX MULDER i would probably say something like that: "Rockstar denies knowledge about patch 2 removed objects" "rockstar denies truth they removed patch 2" "real gta patch is out there... somewhere" "I want to believe next patch will fix bugs and will not add some more" "i know the truth about rockstar`s plans of CONSOLEsation of earth in 2012 year, and i know the truth about GTAforum`s moders co-operation in spreading Securom-cancer virus within legal GTA IV to every PC gamer on planet, which will transform each of us to PC haters and console lovers... also i know that they covering the truth and just closing the threads and for that truth i know the Smoker-Chalie wants to ban me" )) "serve or resist ! what way u prefer?" ))) ------- now im speaking serious - Rockstar didnt released patch 1 for russian version of GTA4, patch 1 for russian version is same as patch 2 aka 1.0.2.0 for International version but because its actually first patch released for russian version it have version 1.0.1.1 ... Now on russian page there is no 1.0.1.1 patch available for russian version... link points to 1.0.1.0 that isnt have updated Russian.gxt and also it possibly cannot be installed on russian version (didnt tried yet to install it, removed game for while to reinstall it).... So for f*ck sakes, why rockstar removed the only available patch for russian version (1.0.1.1) and why da f*ck they didnt created patch v1 for Russian version back in december 2008???? Why the hell all owners of russian version forced now to use retail 1.0.0.0 version of game without any patch available since patch 2\1.0.2.0\1.0.1.1 was removed from Rockstar site?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The real question is... Why the hell did R* allow this to happen? How many actual patch versions are there? 1.0.1.0, 1.0.1.1, 1.0.2.0, 1.0.2.1 ? WTF!?! And now this 1.0.2.X has been revoked . Or, even better, supposedly revoked. I remember the discussion when Aru launched his magic patcher as it was meant to be version independent. Like, it would help a lot if you had an universal mod enabler. How right they were Also, I don't see this mess sorted out any time soon as MS takes their sweet time to "certify" sh*t. I just have to laugh at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One-time Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Rockstar is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Rockstar is funny. QUOTED FOR THE f*ckING TRUTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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