Arski Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 damn. this aint helping my lagging nothin.. i hate gta iv lagging, cant play it, and aint playing it anymore, i am on a RPG server in gta sa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shof Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 The answer to the post above is already contained within the quotes. Charlie has never ceased repeating the same rubbish over and over again when it's had more holes shot punched through it than a cheese wheel. I thought you were a mod because you never fail to saturate threads with your own self-importance, sorry. um dude, stop trolling and he will stop filling topics with his self importance As of right now, Charlie self importance posts is trying to correct you from inaccurate of your trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP5 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) Score one for drama; more ammo for the folks at Encycopedia Dramatica to make fun of forum members takin' it way to seriously, like those I see here. Edited February 1, 2009 by MP5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorgDroneX Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) well i would have to agree with CharmingCharlie!, it seems all the threads on this forum are all about bitchin the game and bitchin R* i am a big fan of the GTA Franchise, i own GTA III, GTA Vice City, GTA SA and GTA IV and ive never had any problems with any of em. ok with GTA IV i have the memory leak/lag issue but its not severe and it has'nt really stop me enjoying the game! it seems that all you want to do is slag everything off, if thats the case then do it direct to R* or just dont purchase anymore R* products, end of the day CC has a duty to uphold some kind or order in the forums and im sure most ppl just wanna read useful stuff about the game and view screen picts and videos and stuff so give CC a break Edited February 1, 2009 by BorgDroneX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 damn. this aint helping my lagging nothin.. i hate gta iv lagging, cant play it, and aint playing it anymore, i am on a RPG server in gta sa. If you're complaining, make sure you atleast meet the minimum requirements before doing so. You're lagging because your 9400GT is not a gaming card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamminpus Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 well i would have to agree with CharmingCharlie!, it seems all the threads on this forum are all about is bitchin the game and bitchin R*i am a big fan of the GTA Franchise, i own GTA III, GTA Vice City, GTA SA and GTA IV and ive never had any problems with any of em. ok with GTA IV i have the memory leak/lag issue but its not severe and it has'nt really stop me enjoying the game! it seems that all you want to do is slag everything off, if thats the case then do it direct to R* or just dont purchase anymore R* products, end of the day CC has a duty to uphold some kind or order in the forums and im sure most ppl just wanna read useful stuff about the game and view screen picts and videos and stuff so give CC a break well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarber29 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 People have the right to complain if the product they purchased has broken parts that have not been fixed. It's just funny the amount of people defending Rockstar. They really can't come up with any good reason to defend them. They can say "Can't you just be happy with a patch 2" or stuff like "Stop complaining" etc., but in the end, the consumer is always right-- give us polished products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reznor Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 OMG... it's true ! there is no more patch V2 But why Rockstar make this ? Where is the com/announcement ? There will be a patch V3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerzworld Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 It seems the patch was removed on Thursday, January 29, 2009 at 4:48:49 PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin6 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 LOL ! This is some kind of joke or what ? Where is official info that patch was deleted ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk Russian 9 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I just hope everything turns out OK for GTA IV on PC. It looks like R* is really confused at what it can do . . . pulling patches back and denying problems . . . However, this might mean when the next installation come out, R* North would work on it separately and we would get a proper game. I don't think they learned their lesson. And it seems they won't, but maybe they will. There is always a chance. I hope it turns out better. Can it really get worse from here? Hmm maybe not. It can, they may drop the PC version altogether, unless they actually realized they have made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henderson Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) If you have a gaming company that keeps quiet on issues, retracts patches that were released, and gives people absolutely no information about a product they paid money for, consumers have a right to complain about that product. Just because someone hasn't bought that product, doesn't mean they don't have the "right" to complain about it. That's one of the most goofiest things I've heard. The fact that in past releases, R* has been a good consumer-friendly company. Now when they sign away their games to big corporations, there's all these issues. Yes, I've owned all the other GTA's and they were good products. That doesn't mean I'm going to worship them and say they can do no wrong. Now, are the issues on the PC version few and far between? Or is it that the number of people who DON'T have issues are few and far between? Even game critics have said there's needless issues on the PC game that shouldn't be there. Now, if you think just because you're one of the few people who DON'T have a problem running the game, that there should be no complaints, you're mistaken. You shouldn't have to have a super computer to run this game smoothly. Just because you have nothing better to spend your money on than making a god-machine, doesn't mean everyone else does. With as successful as R* has been with past releases, they shouldn't have these problems with GTA 4. If this was a first release of a title, I could understand that...But they've had 5 other GTA releases. That only leaves a couple of different options. Either they don't give a rats ass about the PC market any more, or they clearly have people on their staff who don't know what their doing. Either option isn't one you want. Just because this is a FAN forum, doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to make valid arguments or complaints about a broken game. If you don't have issues running the game, good for you, but there's tons of other people out there that do. Don't pretend they don't exist. Edited February 1, 2009 by Henderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexX Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 The PC version does not have major issues, I have been playing it fine on both my PC's from day one. That doesn't really prove anything other than the fact that it runs ok on your own box. The game runs fine on my pc as well, but i'm not so blind that i can't see that many people - on this site and elsewhere, including some reviewers - are having significant problems with the game. Besides, if the game doesn't have any major issues, then what is R* fixing/trying to fix in their patches? And now they've taken the newest patch down? This is seriously the weirdest f*cking PC game launch i have ever witnessed. It's like some little kid going "look mommy, i can swim!" just before he drowns himself in the pool. Again and again. And you're paying to watch. @Henderson - well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeka Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I agree, a messed up pc game launch, maybe Thee most for a major title like this. They should of just left up the patch so people that can still run the game with that patch, could get on online with it ^^. Let alone what this is going to do with the bug reports, with people re-downloading patch v1 thinking it's v2, or the people that are 1st trying the game now and thinking they dl'ed the latest patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In_da_Houser=-420* Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 This is seriously the weirdest f*cking PC game launch i have ever witnessed. It's like some little kid going "look mommy, i can swim!" just before he drowns himself in the pool. Again and again. And you're paying to watch. @Henderson - well said. lmmfao Best comparsion I´v ever heard... priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reznor Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 ...strange....nobody testing the patches before it is distributed ! And there is only one computer at Toronto for Dév. the game and patches ? Seriously... Rockstar Toronto, you are not professional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeka Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) If you look towards the back of teh manual it list the credits for the game. In there is the rockstar toranto team, which did the pc work. In there is listed a grand total, get this, 4 testers. No joke. Good or bad, that's up to you to decide... Edit: Also there's a total of 4 support members as well. In diff sections lol, not all in one support type of job. I would think there's more for the phone though so one of them must have a team for the phone crap. If you think about it, maybe one guy collects all tyhe bug reports he can, summerizes it for the test team to look for. And if the test team can find it, the programmers have at it. :\ eeeeehhhh Edited February 1, 2009 by Aeka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorlockGod Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) I am not a conspiracy theorist by nature, but something does indeed smell very funny about this PC release. I always found it a little strange that patch 1.0.2.0 was not distributed through "Games for Microsoft" like the first mini-patch. Now that patch2 has been withdrawn it almost leads me to believe that Microsoft did not certify it in the first place. I won't go as far as to say that big bad Microsoft are deliberately making life difficult for the PC version of GTA4, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are holding Rockstar's family hostage at gunpoint, perhaps mailing off the occasional limb for good measure. Poor Rockstar Toronto, and we all just thought they were sloppy coders. Good post by the way DexX. Edited February 1, 2009 by MorlockGod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorgDroneX Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I am not a conspiracy theorist by nature, but something does indeed smell very funny about this PC release. I always found it a little strange that patch 1.0.2.0 was not distributed through "Games for Microsoft" like the first mini-patch. Now that patch2 has been withdrawn it almost leads me to believe that Microsoft did not certify it in the first place. I won't go as far as to say that big bad Microsoft are deliberately making life difficult for the PC version of GTA4, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are holding Rockstar's family hostage at gunpoint, perhaps mailing off the occasional limb for good measure. Poor Rockstar Toronto, and we all just thought they were sloppy coders. Good post by the way DexX. continuing the conspiracy route, what if Microsoft gave R* orders to release patch 1.2 to weed out all the ppl using pirate copies!, lots of ppl have reported that they could'nt use the computers at the [email protected] cafe's which R* said was a result of using pirate copies of the game!, after weeks of the patch being released and with all the ppl complaining thay cant do this and that perhaps MS have got the data they wanted and told R* to remove the patch for download!! lol who knows, this is just me having fun with an idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarber29 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Bloop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeka Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I dn, though they probably have a better grasp of how many will use no-cd cracks, regardless of if they own the actual game or not. Hence the 1.0.3.0 exe from securom. Even if only 5% of the total people that have the game post here. Seeing how many that have those sort of probs and have straight up said they will use a crack even when they own the game, may of been an eye opener for them. Either that and or they decide that the protectio was just causing to many probs, and they need to get the game fixed up a bit better. Having people report bugs with the cracks is just getting in the way. Not really a conspiracy theory from me, I think they decided that it's best to go no-cd. For bug reasons, and because allmost no one wants the cd in there drive at all times. This will get rid of some of the drm complaints, as well as get rid of a pretty sizable portion of the bug reports. Either it be with the actual drive not reading he disk right, or with people using bad cacks that mess up. Either way, I think it unheard of for a game maker to put out a no-cd exe/launcher so close to launch. I know the peopel that make unreal doit, but I think that's usually when no cares anymore, like a year later. There's still people buying the game I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) I believe the answer is: poor employee programming skills and methods by which to get the work done to just get the money (rushed fast and other examples). I just wish they would get everything in order. If they at least admitted there is problems they would be stepping forward. Then they could try to handle the work a little better with less frustrated consumers shouting, you liar! Deny the problems and you make all of us that have the problems pissed off. Much less, I don't see how Toronto can even fix the game when I read his replies and what he has to say, it just leads me to believe this game will just stay what it is. Would you do that to your customers? This is just like business. Edited February 1, 2009 by ZaCkOX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loste1 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 It seems the patch was removed on Thursday, January 29, 2009 at 4:48:49 PM. How did you get the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNoHelp Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I think working on the new titles made them busy, that is why probably such little number of people worked on GTA IV for PC. Probably all beta testers were working on the other titles and, I cant believe if they though that, overestimated the beta testing and though oh 4 dudes on a single game, that need 20 GB and two DVDs and latest Windows upgrades, are sufficient. So they probably said "lets focus more on the new releases, bringing GTA IV from a console to a PC takes time, but we already fixed the main issues found in the original version game so no big deal." When did they implemented RAGE? (R* Advanced Game Engine) If the engine is new (GTA IV is the first game using such engine), then such flaws in the games would likely occur when they made the game for PC. I don't know what they are thinking now, but sales for the GTA IV for PC were disastrous. Console version made success, but now they realize that number does not lie. The budget for making GTA IV for PC were likely high, and the low sales probably did not cover the budget costs. So, the game is a failure (speaking about game being salable, not other aspects) . Now they try to fix this mess bit by bit of a two months released game with patches, and relying on the new GTA IV: Lost and damned sales to cover the losses from the GTA IV for PC sales. If GTA IV: Lost and Damned does not make a great success (speaking of sales, which I highly doubt) because it is buggy just like her sister?, then they are really screwed (Probably) I am pretty sure we will see more than one patch to fix this game, the performance fix patch will have more than 34 MB (like 1.0.2.0.) probably around 100 mb or probably more. A few second downloadable patch does not make miracles, bigger patches fix more problems, literally. Too bad that they probably wont be reading this and might laugh on this adapted quote "With higher expectations for consumers comes bigger responsibility from producers" but it is the truth. Now you might think "What a load of crap did this guy wrote" but if you think about it for a while. Some stuff would make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelman Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Rockstar haven't logged in for a day, that could mean only one thing Yes, that's true. It means it's the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zBobG Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Rockstar haven't logged in for a day, that could mean only one thing Yes, that's true. It means it's the weekend. I had to laugh at that one! Well, there is a "game" on TV today. I expect everything (business wise) has come to a standstill. For those who don't know, today is SuperBowl Sunday (in the US). Even the folks in Toronto will be interested in that. Now, where did I put that beer? Regarding the patch: There is an official link to the v2 patch, posted earlier in this thread (thank you). That means that the v2 patch is actually still on the Rockstar servers, but it's not properly linked to. That bad link could just be a mistake or it could be deliberate. It is odd though that Windows Live is not offering the patch when you run GTA4 and log in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerzworld Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Rockstar haven't logged in for a day, that could mean only one thing Yes, that's true. It means it's the weekend. DUN DUN DUN. When did they implemented RAGE? (R* Advanced Game Engine) If the engine is new (GTA IV is the first game using such engine), then such flaws in the games would likely occur when they made the game for PC. GTAIV is the first PC game for the RAGE engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarber29 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I was able to download patch 2 the other day from Windows Game Live. Is Windows Game Live also not offering the patch anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kn00tcn Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 People have the right to complain if the product they purchased has broken parts that have not been fixed. It's just funny the amount of people defending Rockstar. They really can't come up with any good reason to defend them. They can say "Can't you just be happy with a patch 2" or stuff like "Stop complaining" etc., but in the end, the consumer is always right-- give us polished products. except arec didnt purchase anything yet, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diom Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I was able to download patch 2 the other day from Windows Game Live. Is Windows Game Live also not offering the patch anymore? i reinstalled my game before few hours and windows live automatically updated my game to 1.2 ..so this patch is still supported.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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