Ilovevicecity324 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Ok, so I just got done beating this game, so I notice at the end of the game, like Maria is talking to Claude and then I notice like right at the very end of the game, the screen just fades black and the game just ends with a gunshot and then Maria is silenced after this, so, I guess, does this leave me to assume that Claude kills Maria??? That's a kind of weird ending for a game......I spent the whole last mission saving Maria's ass, only to kill her at the end??? lol Kerminator369 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHXC Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 No, I don't think Claude does. I think it's just to finish the game with a bang. After you've completed the game, listen to Chatterbox. I believe you hear Maria saying something about Claude. Comrade Monke 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058928177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I reckon it's just to shut her up. It wouldn't make sense that Claude kills her for no reason. MostaFosko 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058928267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flesh-n-Bone Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I reckon it's just to shut her up. It wouldn't make sense that Claude kills her for no reason. Unless he's so cold, that he wants the whole world dead except himself. Anyways, I think this gunshot was only to either end the game's story or to warn Maria to shut up. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058928509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartleby Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 I reckon it's just to shut her up. It wouldn't make sense that Claude kills her for no reason. Unless he's so cold, that he wants the whole world dead except himself. Anyways, I think this gunshot was only to either end the game's story or to warn Maria to shut up. You, sir, have just echoed what many members before you have said. This might be the quote this forum has seen the most. Yeah, no one knows for sure. This has been debated about in at least hundreds of topics before. You know just as much as anyone else here does. @GTA1: Right, but you'd hear that at any point in the game. This was before they implemented the "unlockable" radio clips. Dunno if I'd considered that solid proof. Comrade Monke 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058928554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapapote Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 No, I don't think Claude does. I think it's just to finish the game with a bang. After you've completed the game, listen to Chatterbox. I believe you hear Maria saying something about Claude. That can be heard even before Claude and Maria meet. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058928620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet_Chris Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 After you've completed the game, listen to Chatterbox. I believe you hear Maria saying something about Claude. Chatterbox is a looped .wav file.It is not broadcasting in realtime. Copcaller and ClaudeTheMan 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058928838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funktipus Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I don't think he killed her. He spent nine years with Catalina and didn't shoot her annoying ass. nick323f 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058997688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollerball34 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Yes claude kills maria because at the end of the game maria doesnt stop talking and the gunshot you hear does kill maria. I also have read in some book that claude shoots her for some peace and quiet. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058997922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 It's an iffy subject. Some people beleive Claude killed her, some don't. It's really a matter of your imagination. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058997928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixion Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 ***SPOILER*** During the last mission when you go and deliver the money to Catalina to free Maria at the mansion, Catalina skrews you over and tells her guards to shoot you insted of freeing maria like she said she would if claude brought her the money. Catalina asks claude before he is about to get ambushed if he had really come back to free maria or to get revenge on her. since claude cant talk to respond we belive that he went back to free maria, but... Claude shoots and kills maria becasue its simple, he didint care about saving her, he really wanted revenge on catalina, which he did. Thee Gee Tee Ayy King, MostaFosko, RedDeadRus and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1058998139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy. Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 After you've completed the game, listen to Chatterbox. I believe you hear Maria saying something about Claude. That radio clip is played right at the start of the game before Maria even meets him. I think it's safe to say that Claude shot her. Who cares if he did anyway? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059004064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reform Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 It's a joke. I don't think R* intended people to read so much into it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059004195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt.slaughter Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 well,maybe a direct sequel of gta 3 would tell us if whether or not maria is really dead.or was claude arrested and put in cryonic sleep until gta 2 happened ? Comrade Monke 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059038539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullet_Chris Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Maria died of two reasons: 1.She wouldnt shut the hell up. 2.Characters cant follow you after passing a mission so R* found a way to remove her. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059044915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydo Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Nah, she wasn't killed, it was just a way to end the game, with a burst from the old shotgun. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059045111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley001 Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 To put it frankly, we don't know! He either fired a warning shot to shut her up or he killed her to shut her up... That's R* for you, always leaving you in the dark! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059046263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cod fh rules Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 i think nixion got it right. is seems as if all claude was after was revenge. wen catalina says" .......to save maria or to get me back... killing you will be a pleasure but dating you was only buisness" i think this implies she thought he wanted her back not to get her back. i think claud wanted revenge , he kills cat, rescues maria(who de dusnt seem to like all that much) she chews his ear off, and he shoots her just because shes annoying. its pretty funny. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059205610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_side646 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 There might be a few reasons for him to kill Maria. The least significant is that Maria was ranting on and on and he shot her to shut her up. The more important reason would be to get back at her for screwing him up with Salvatore back in Portland. "Why didn't he just kill her earlier", you ask? The same reason why he didn't kill Catalina in the missions Cutting the Grass and Grand Theft Aero. Or maybe I'm just drinking too much coffee. Either way, thats Claude for yuh. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059214553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydo Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 There might be a few reasons for him to kill Maria. The least significant is that Maria was ranting on and on and he shot her to shut her up. The more important reason would be to get back at her for screwing him up with Salvatore back in Portland. "Why didn't he just kill her earlier", you ask? The same reason why he didn't kill Catalina in the missions Cutting the Grass and Grand Theft Aero. Or maybe I'm just drinking too much coffee. Either way, thats Claude for yuh. You're drinking too much coffee. It would be idiotic for Claude to kill Maria, just after killing 30 gang members and taking down a chopper. The gun shot was just to signal the end of the main missions. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059215527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelman Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Since when do gunshots signal the end of missions? I always took it that he shot her. Why wouldn't he? She screwed him over on more than one occasion, and as the end credits roll, he's finally in a position to exact his revenge. VinnyIrish 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059215620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoverProject Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Well if you heard a gunshot yes, and it wasen't part of the credits, they just didn't want to show it. And in vice city and san andreas, do you hear a gunshot once you beat the last mission at the end of the cutscence. No. So that should answer your question. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059215721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydo Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Since when do gunshots signal the end of missions? I always took it that he shot her. Why wouldn't he? She screwed him over on more than one occasion, and as the end credits roll, he's finally in a position to exact his revenge. It's just the end of the main missions. Claude does alot to save Maria in a transaction, he gives away a lot of money and in the process loses his weapons. He could have left Liberty City, but stays to take care of Catalinia. Also, he leaves the Dam area with Maria, why, if he wanted to kill her, wouldn't he do it at the bottom of the dam with the dead gang members. GTAVC and SA are different, they have their own unique endings. Whereas in GTAIII, Claude, in a way, tells Maria to shut up with a burst of the shot gun. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059216010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_side646 Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The chopper had the girl who shot Claude and left him to die. The gang-members worked with that very girl to make sure Claude dies one way or the other. I see this as a good enough reason for Claude to kill them all without with the intention of saving another girl who screwed him up. Besides, Claude had a truck-load of money. Giving some of it to finally get a chance to get back at the woman who did everything possible to kill him wouldn't hurt. If he just barged in there, guns blazing, I don't think she'd have stopped to watch the scenery. Losing his guns wasn't his own decision, just a smart move by Catalina he didn't anticipate. Now, if gunshots in the dark don't really indicate someone dying then maybe Tommy and Lance just pulled the trigger to shut Diaz up and then safely escorted him out of the mansion. Same case with Hernandez and Pendelbery. If Claude's gunshot was to scare Maria then I expected to hear a shocked gasp or a scream from Maria. Oh wait, thats right, there wasn't any. Maybe she....died? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059216500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoverProject Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The chopper had the girl who shot Claude and left him to die. The gang-members worked with that very girl to make sure Claude dies one way or the other. I see this as a good enough reason for Claude to kill them all without with the intention of saving another girl who screwed him up. Besides, Claude had a truck-load of money. Giving some of it to finally get a chance to get back at the woman who did everything possible to kill him wouldn't hurt. If he just barged in there, guns blazing, I don't think she'd have stopped to watch the scenery. Losing his guns wasn't his own decision, just a smart move by Catalina he didn't anticipate. Now, if gunshots in the dark don't really indicate someone dying then maybe Tommy and Lance just pulled the trigger to shut Diaz up and then safely escorted him out of the mansion. Same case with Hernandez and Pendelbery. If Claude's gunshot was to scare Maria then I expected to hear a shocked gasp or a scream from Maria. Oh wait, thats right, there wasn't any. Maybe she....died? that makes total since, smart of you relating that from vice city cut scence. Rockstar just doesn't want you noticing it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059216592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cod fh rules Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 he did kill her. its a joke. after all of clauds hard work saving maria, he finally has her all too himself and realises shes a pain in the ass. you san imagine him rolling his eyes thinking what was i thinkin. then he kills her for no good reason. it shows that he is still a hard core murdering gangster. and its the funniest joke in the game. if you actually got the joke you wouldnt even debate the topic. its hilarious. there must be a way to ask the game makers. a actual gta sight or something. ill leave it up to someone else to do that. they wudnt hav made that last video with maria being soo annoying to end the game if claude didnt shoot her. that wud be random and stupid. sory im not good at explaining the joke mabe someone could do better. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059221812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom2510 Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I say that Claude shot her, but she didn't die. The medics revived her like they did Claude and the countless peds that are killed. She then found another guy and moved to Vice City. Just a little fanfiction there for ya. Copcaller 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059282434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evog Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I say that Claude shot her, but she didn't die. The medics revived her like they did Claude and the countless peds that are killed. She then found another guy and moved to Vice City. Just a little fanfiction there for ya. Agreed! Well, only because that'd make a good story... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059282443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgtafan Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Claude killed her. She was a drug using, two timing, bi sexual, annoying bitch who almost got him killed many times. He didn't give a sh*t and killed the bitch. I only wish I could had seen it. That would be a good show! Or better yet they could had let me do it! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059282488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evog Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Claude killed her. She was a drug using, two timing, bi sexual, annoying bitch who almost got him killed many times. He didn't give a sh*t and killed the bitch. I only wish I could had seen it. That would be a good show! Or better yet they could had let me do it! Yeah, all she really cared about was money. For example, she "loved" Toni until she found out he wasn't rich. Pfft, I was glad to hear the sound of a gunshot at the end of III. ClaudeTheMan and Copcaller 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/395358-ok-so-does-claude-kill-maria/#findComment-1059282509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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