Cheaters, Hackers

[George.]

OK I sent R* a message but it replies after one or two weeks. Waiting now...

[MrWaxem]

to the o.p.

 

totally agree, even before this last patch, the hacks were out in force. i tried one race, sat on the line three, two, one..go "htf did that guy get there so fast?"

since then i only play hangmans noose. promised myself until R* sort it, or we get control of servers just not gonna bother.

 

im from the UK, and as such, im treated to the most expensive life known to man, must be nice R* have got secure drm and a crying shame for what we have paid for this game we are not afforded the same in terms of fair gameplay.

 

i live in hope, sigh...

 

lol

 

[baz77]

there are code writers in every online game, cheating there way to the top, but there just little sad players, who cant be bothered to master the game. yep they should be named and shamed when caught, then banned.

[TekUK]

 

OK I sent R* a message but it replies after one or two weeks. Waiting now...

I have sent R* msgs about performance issues and such, and all I got in return were links to forum post. which were mostly cmd line enhancements, i.e. -norestrict n so on. you know what I mean.

 

But, with any luck, Hopefully. they will take notice of your msg.

if not, i really dont see what can be done.

 

Come on R*, you've never let me down B4.

 

Played on all GTA's since the days of DMA. They were great back then. But the world is starting to get connected. its a shame to see a potential LAST ever GTA that has online capability's. Go to waste.

 

Please R* this is your greatest achievement ever. Forget the Graphics bugs. and Errors. We've all had em.

And honestly. the game really does need fairly good system to run.

 

But within a year. more people will upgrade and want to play. same with Test Drive Unlimited. People still just Upgrading now and beginning to play 2 years on... Believe me, I still play. on the odd occasion. and TDU was next Gen Visual's.

 

Not even myself could run that game when it 1st came out. I was unable to go into the city. i ended up with 12 FPS.

 

TBH, I only get max of 35 FPS on GTAIV. then randomly goes to 40. crazy during loading times, hits 2500 FPS, hehehe

well i am using DDR2 667. BAAAAD IDEA. lol its old. need to upgrade.

 

R*R

[kakarot_9]

Cheating has increased on multiplayer, I hope the developers of the trainers disable the ability to use their trainers on multiplayer.

[AK47-Maximus]

Cheating has increased on multiplayer, I hope the developers of the trainers disable the ability to use their trainers on multiplayer.

No it hasnt, it only happens in GTA 4 ... no cheating in BF2, COD4, WiC and other games.

[TekUK]

Cheating has increased on multiplayer, I hope the developers of the trainers disable the ability to use their trainers on multiplayer.

No it hasnt, it only happens in GTA 4 ... no cheating in BF2, COD4, WiC and other games.

no cheating in BF2

 

if only that were true. its just very VERY hard to do it.

Most people upload there crap to the hack sites. loads of people use them, then they stop working as they get detected.

 

Ive played Battlefield from BF1942. to 2142. and still playing. YOUR WRONG. cheating is easy if you know how, and what code to rewrite.

Stupid really that people like to better themselves that way.

 

Crysis is a prime example for cheaters. even after the 1.21 patch.

BF2 after after 1.41. cheaters love to find new ways to cheat & so called hack.

 

[Nor-Devil]

This is getting ridiculous!!!

 

I love GTA IV in multiplayer mode. It is the best thing since sliced bread......when there are no cheaters about. I thought they only had rocket mods and invincibility mods ...but I was wrong. Now they can also spawn whatever they want!

 

I logged on to play the airport team deathmatch, which is my favourite map. What do I see..Some hacker/cheater/moron/low life has spawned 10s of cars, helicopters etc...littering the place and ruining the whole gaming experience. I only got one screenshot, since i "lost connection" when I tabbed out to paste the screenshot.

 

I know rockstar reads this forum..Get your act together!!!!

 

This one only shows burnt out cars littering the place, there were also choppers, bikes, you name it...it was there.

 

Edited January 29, 2009 by Nor-Devil

[GhostDragon]

your gonna see cheaters on every game so get used to it and quit crying

[Sunrise Driver]

 

your gonna see cheaters on every game so get used to it and quit crying

And what to do? Watch someone has infinite health? Play with "secret agents" who has mini rockets in their SMG's?

[eagle016]

This is why GTA is NOT supposed to be a multiplayer game. It's either kill modding or kill multiplayer, which would you have?

 

Personally I think that if you DO play MP then you should play with people you know, so maybe yall should exchange ID's here and just join private matches with each other.

[Nor-Devil]

This is why GTA is NOT supposed to be a multiplayer game. It's either kill modding or kill multiplayer, which would you have?

 

I'd have "kill modding"

 

 

 

.............................awaits flames..................

[Ricksta]

The mods come from this forum anyway lol...

[GhostDragon]

 

your gonna see cheaters on every game so get used to it and quit crying

And what to do? Watch someone has infinite health? Play with "secret agents" who has mini rockets in their SMG's?

there is nothing you cant do, isnt there?

[Bluebull]

Rockstar should give host the power to kick players. It would solve the problems with cheaters. You cheat, boom, you're gone.

And if host is a dickhead and kicks innocent players, then you just find another server. Surely there are enough people around, who want to have real fun without cheaters..

[-jr-]

Rockstar should give host the power to kick players. It would solve the problems with cheaters. You cheat, boom, you're gone.

And if host is a dickhead and kicks innocent players, then you just find another server. Surely there are enough people around, who want to have real fun without cheaters..

That a good idea. Hope Rockstar does it.

[GhostDragon]

Rockstar should give host the power to kick players. It would solve the problems with cheaters. You cheat, boom, you're gone.

And if host is a dickhead and kicks innocent players, then you just find another server. Surely there are enough people around, who want to have real fun without cheaters..

there is already a feature for that...

[Jduffy]

 

they use rocket propelled rocket propelled grenades? really?

Yeah, those RPRPG's are deadly as penguin sh*t.

[AK47-Maximus]

Rockstar should give host the power to kick players. It would solve the problems with cheaters. You cheat, boom, you're gone.

And if host is a dickhead and kicks innocent players, then you just find another server. Surely there are enough people around, who want to have real fun without cheaters..

there is already a feature for that...

No there isnt.

[darth189]

I've reported lots of cheaters, and those modders that use their fast cars to play race

the other day i was hosting an awesome gta race, like 16 ppl... and someone decided to spawn a boat in the middle of the track... have u seen that big boat??

i cant remember the name, but its spawned and crashed almost everyones game... asi i said.. i've reported lots but i dont think MS is gonna do somthing about it...

what a shame... such a fun multiplayer game!!

btw i play private games mostly since that happened

[Jc84144]

 

This is why GTA is NOT supposed to be a multiplayer game. It's either kill modding or kill multiplayer, which would you have?

They could keep everyone happy (except cheaters) by allowing you to mod single player, but if you try to use a mod in multiplayer you get kicked, except in private matches where it would be allowed.

 

Just report every cheater you see. I'm sure if a player gets a lot of cheating reports against them, Microsoft is going to notice.

 

And also vote to kick players. I don't understand why more people don't do it, I'll be in a game, and nearly everyone is moaning about the one or two cheaters, yet only a few people vote to kick? If all the people who were pissed off voted they would be kicked from the game.

[OysterBarron]

this is why a fee is required for GFWL! it keeps most of the young stupid kids that come into a game not to play it but to glitch or cheat out. you still get the odd one on live though Ive had 1 person join my RSV2 match came in and was constantly saying i wanna glitch look at me glitch, Glitches behind some steps of witch he cant get out from and also it does not provide him with any cover, he was the only one left the oppoising team found him and raped him. And he did it for another 3 matches, i mean wtf why play a game if all you f*cking want to do is do the same sh*t glitch over and over again, or even better do a glitch that has no tactical advantage whatsoever.

 

Nuff said he was kicked and all 13 players left bad repd him, witch is the only other thing you can do other than insult his mum.

 

cheaters should be banned or at least software supplied by rockstar to stop this because i would get well f*cked off if i was you.

[badguy]

Well think of it this way. Why would microsoft ban anyone. Technically speaking its not cheating. Its R*'s fault for letting modded version of gta 4 be able to play mp.

[Arkane78]

There are a number of ways this could be overcome.

 

The cheapest is to simply put the original GTA files on LIVE - when you join an MP game, it does a checksum or similar against your files - if they don't match, you can't play.

 

However, this method also prevents modders from testing anything except in SP.

I realise the op hates cheaters/hackers and I agree, it is no fun running around in freemode with your pals when some cheater comes in with a rocket SMG and proceeds to shoot everyone else and crash your game just because they can.

 

But you also need to realise that there are other people who do use mods - not to annoy other players or mess with their game, but just because they are curious. Sure - restrict mods/hacks to freemode only - but this won't solve the current issues.

 

I'm inclined to start thinking dedicated servers - either that or a much better way to handle friends/foes within LIVE.

 

Perhaps a 'ban list' - you ban someone in LIVE, this means they can't play in any games that you host. This would give people the chance to simply stop the immature cheaters/hackers from spoiling their hosted games... sure it wouldn't change much initially but after more and more people use the ban system, it would mean cheaters would have to host their own game and if you join a game hosted by a cheater - you leave.

 

The problem is that LIVE isn't giving the player control of their own game, sure you can negative rep someone or ignore them or report them - but ultimately you know you may well end up in a game with that person again.

 

Why not give players the ability to CHOOSE who they want to play with and who they want to avoid DIRECTLY.

 

There are probably many other ideas out there but this is my 2 pence.

 

Just for the record, I'm one of those people who use mods - but I'm certainly no griefer, I only use mods in games that *I* host or in a private game with my friends as long as it's cool with them - otherwise, it's business as normal

 

Peace.

 

A78

[NMDanny]

well all trainers that people make here that designed for singleplayer are actually hacks,

it was harder to make trainer at IV then SA/VC/III because the anticheat blocked both single and multi trainers

 

but i hope that R* never use punkbuster, i hate punkbuster and it always do problems

[DaveC2003]

YOU WERE DISCONNECTED AS YOUR PC IS RUNNING TOO SLOW.

 

 

I get this message quite a lot too during multiplayer mode and my PC specs are above recommendation.

 

I've been on a few games in multiplayer where hackers/cheaters added on "burnt shells" of vehicles (e.g. while playing Team Deathmatch at the Airport) and fast cars appear out of thin air.

 

I have noticed that there are a few cheaters putting on the invincibility cheat so they don't die. I think Rockstar should put a ban on allowing cheats while playing multiplayer mode.

[TekUK]

your gonna see cheaters on every game so get used to it and quit crying

STFU, its obvious you cheat aswell. why some people got to tell others to stop moaning, Ghost i suggest you go away and talk about posts that interest you. not complain about posts you dont like.

 

Besides this aint nothing to do with you.

 

Dont come here and moan that people cheat on every game. and yeah they do.

but its mostly down to people like you. who dont care that they do cheat & hack.

So they get away with it.

 

stupid fool...

[TekUK]

This is why GTA is NOT supposed to be a multiplayer game. It's either kill modding or kill multiplayer, which would you have?

 

Personally I think that if you DO play MP then you should play with people you know, so maybe yall should exchange ID's here and just join private matches with each other.

Dude, the mods for all games are absaloutly pants anyways.

most of the mods ive ever encountered for all the games i like are cheesy.

unstable, erratic, random crashes.

 

and by the way modding GTA was a SP aspect of the game. not MP

it only came into mp when they wanted things like UIF stunt server. and even they were unstable.

 

Mods are cool yeah, but how many mods do you see being used as active scenery or usable objects for MP games. NONE.

Mods are mostly Single Player adaptions.

 

So once again. another person has found his way into this thread and had to complain.

probably cause he hate's people that hate hacks.

 

oh well. no helping some people.

[kakarot_9]

Cheating has increased on multiplayer, I hope the developers of the trainers disable the ability to use their trainers on multiplayer.

No it hasnt, it only happens in GTA 4 ... no cheating in BF2, COD4, WiC and other games.

You missunderstood me, I meant multiplayer on GTA IV.

I've been playing in private matches as well because cheating doesn't make the game fun anymore. I still play GTA IV online on the Xbox 360 though. I suppose that's a pro for the consoles, no hax(except for the rapid fire controllers).

[TekUK]

Rockstar should give host the power to kick players. It would solve the problems with cheaters. You cheat, boom, you're gone.

And if host is a dickhead and kicks innocent players, then you just find another server. Surely there are enough people around, who want to have real fun without cheaters..

yeas this does happen. i see 1 guy gets annoyed by cheaters. then he asks to kik the cheater. so n so wants to kick so n so. but no 1 ever replys with a kick request.

some people just dont get bothered by these guys, so they see no reason to kick them, especially if they not been bothered by them.

 

and leaving the server to avoid cheaters shouldnt have to be that way. i join a server. id like to spend time there having fun. not changing server all the time.

 

Quick tip. if you see a server in the airport with around 20 to 30 ppl in the airport dont join. i guarantee its being cheated on. and its usually run by the same nerds who like to cheat.

not mentioning any names, but i know who runs server just to use there gay cheats.