Specimen Yarp Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Patch 1020 really screwed up my game so I had to reinstall. Patch 1010 works good so I installed that but it says I need to log into windows live to save my games, but when I log in it says I have to update to patch 1020. When I say no it logs me out so I can't save my games. How do I play the game without being forced to download patch 1020? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyspy Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Without wanting to cause any offence, are you using a legal copy? The only reason I ask is that from what I've seen in these forums, those people who are having problems with this second patch, are either using a cracked version or have heavily modded the original game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058921844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveLobster Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Use XLiveLess to remove GFWL and Rockstar Social Club and you should be able to keep the game on the first patch. Remember, XLiveLess still requires a full legit copy with the DVD in the drive since it works with the copy protection so if you do have a pirated copy your still sh*t out of luck. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058921881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadDevil Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) What FFxSTALKERx said but get the Securom Crack to take away the DVD Requirement. EDIT: CC Don't modify my posts in a negative way again! Edited January 28, 2009 by UndeadDevil Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058921885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 UndeadDevil will you stop mentioning the damn crack every five seconds. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058921893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadDevil Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) Sorry, I mentioned it as previous poster said it would still require DVD. Besides its not like no-dvd cracks are against the law (As long as you own the game) And most Windows 7 users are forced to use the crack just to play so Edit: Let alone those trying to make the game playable on Linux... Seriously though, decent game devs know not to use CD Protection on games, funny enough these are also the major devs that support OS's other than Windows (Blizzard has Windows, Linux and MacOS for example on every game), ID Software, Epic Games, etc Funny how its company's like EA wasting money on DRM that does nothing to prevent pirates but is simply a company stealing money from a otherwise half decent game company for a pathetic attempt at DRM. Edited January 28, 2009 by UndeadDevil Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058921903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 It doesn't matter if cracks are against the law or not, on this forum we do not allow the broadcasting and discussion of cracks and ways to circumvent protection systems. Most windows 7 users are not forced to use the crack, that is their own damn laziness I have been able to get GTA 4 working perfectly in windows 7 without resorting to cracks. When you pay for a game you are paying to use it UNDER specific rules. So if you bought the game and use a crack you are infact breaking the license rules and Rockstar have every right to remove your ability to play the game. However this is all immaterial this forum does not allow discussion of cracks or anything of that nature. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058921949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadDevil Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 So you honestly think this game should never be played on Linux, or even on Mac OS (A lot of people use Cedega) Sony Securom being as closed as they are prevents other OSes. Hell Music DRM is dieing now, so hopefully all industries will realise its just harming revenue. (I'm sorry but R* got ripped the F**K off by Sony! - For that amount of money I'd expect at least 10 days before a crack is out and personally if I worked for R* would be taking Sony to court right now for blatant mugging.) CC, don't turn this into a argument, you've said what you need to say, as have I. You are right about the EULA's (Note the "'s", who remembers the day when you didn't even have a EULA lmao) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058921980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specimen Yarp Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Yes my copy is legit. Here is the proof Thanks for the help so far, I will see what I can do with that xliveless Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058921991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrigginDoC Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Nice photoshop work m8 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTheBelow Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Without wanting to cause any offence, are you using a legal copy? The only reason I ask is that from what I've seen in these forums, those people who are having problems with this second patch, are either using a cracked version or have heavily modded the original game. I'm having problems with the game and mine is legal. And what the f*ck? It is impossible to make a picture that realistic in photoshop @ the above dumbass Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 And what the f*ck? It is impossible to make a picture that realistic in photoshop @ the above dumbass Erm the topic creator didn't put that picture up till AFTER guyspy said his comment. I am pretty sure if the TC had included the picture at the beginning then guyspy wouldn't have questioned whether it was a legit copy. However there are still people with legitimate copies that for some reason or another resort to no dvd cracks and these CAUSE problems. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nillansan Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Some of you guys seriously need to shut the f*ck up. I have legit copy and I am NOT using any modified launcher application, and yet still experience that objects are missing. STOP assuming that everyone is a pathetic pirate! I'm going to reinstall the game and reapply 1.0.2.0 and see if that solves my problem. I am not experiencing any problems when I interact with computers or TV. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
juscal Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Nice photoshop work m8 If it is Photoshopped, then he did a damn fine job. You can see GTAForums through the middle of the disk and the clear plastic bit. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurf Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I have a legit copy as well and I lost about 5 FPS with this patch on the same settings(went from 30 to 25 average). Before all I had done was add availablevidmem 2.0 in a commandline.txt to make GTA use more ram. I'd like to know how to play without this patch and how to uninstall. On a sidenote I am very disappointed with this patch and the engine in general. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelated Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 To skip JUST the DVD check I'm using a GTA IV Mini Image mounted in a virtual IDE drive so I don't wear out the DVD. I must have a half dozen games where the "Play" disc is ruined but the install disc(s) is untouched. It doesn't bypass any of the InSecuROM online activation checks that the "Cracked" .exe does so it's only useful for those with legitimate copies of the game. I never use cracks because the people who release them are amateur coders who don't have the skill to properly remove heavy DRM (99.9% of cracks still have the protection attached, they simply bypass it), you get tons of bad side effects and slowdowns. Especially with something like InSecuROM. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadDevil Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Scratched play disks is one of the reasons many of us use No-DVD Cracks. Better to keep those disks in the case unless they need installing. Plus it seems kinda pointless requiring a CD just for 16-64Mb of copyright data checks when the games data is all on the HD. Also alot of amateur's release cracks but generally you can trust the hacking groups that have existed since the 1990's for reliable cracks... (Also remember legit no-dvd sites exist, no viruses attached ) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelated Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Scratched play disks is one of the reasons many of us use No-DVD Cracks. Better to keep those disks in the case unless they need installing. Plus it seems kinda pointless requiring a CD just for 16-64Mb of copyright data checks when the games data is all on the HD. Also alot of amateur's release cracks but generally you can trust the hacking groups that have existed since the 1990's for reliable cracks... (Also remember legit no-dvd sites exist, no viruses attached ) I haven't seen any fully rebuilt .exe's since, well years. It takes a lot of talent and work to dump the copy protection from a game. Since you seem to use them look next time and see. If the cracked.exe is bigger than the retail .exe it hasn't been stripped properly, if it's smaller than the retail than that's a good indication that there are some who still know what they're doing. I doubt it though. Look at all the people who are having problems with GTA IV like the drunk camera and the TW@T computer problems. It's because of a bad crack. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadDevil Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 if it's smaller than the retail than that's a good indication that there are some who still know what they're doing. I doubt it though. $800,000 Sony Securom (R* got Mugged by Sony) cracked into 26Kb, thats a much smaller file and as well as killing the DRM it is a no-dvd crack. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The protection cost Rockstar a reported $200,000 now will you all shut up about cracks and ways to circumvent the protection system. Jesus how many times do I have keep repeating myself. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058922526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelated Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) The protection cost Rockstar a reported $200,000 now will you all shut up about cracks and ways to circumvent the protection system. Jesus how many times do I have keep repeating myself. OK for a legitimate way to bypass the DVD check (InSecuROM Approved) go over to this thread. It seems InSecuROM has released their own No DVD .exe. I tried it and it works. Just backup the old LaunchGTAIV.exe and copy this new one to your GTA IV directory. Works great and no need to bother with the DVD anymore. Forum Post http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...entry1058923952 Direct Link to Download. http://www.securom.com/support/customers/r...LaunchGTAIV.zip Edited January 29, 2009 by Pixelated Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058923938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilPuppy Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I just disconnect from the internet before I fire the game up...no second patch needed or forced on you..You have to be in a safehouse to save though (although after completing something it saves for you) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058923999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverTheBelow Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 And what the f*ck? It is impossible to make a picture that realistic in photoshop @ the above dumbass Erm the topic creator didn't put that picture up till AFTER guyspy said his comment. I am pretty sure if the TC had included the picture at the beginning then guyspy wouldn't have questioned whether it was a legit copy. However there are still people with legitimate copies that for some reason or another resort to no dvd cracks and these CAUSE problems. That sentence was pointed at 'thefriggindoc'. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058926830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidx44 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I wanna know just WHY you dont wanna patch... whats the reason i dont get it Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058927028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpx Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I wanna know just WHY you dont wanna patch...whats the reason i dont get it most likely he doesn't know where to get a new crack Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058927044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimohboda Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Without wanting to cause any offence, are you using a legal copy? The only reason I ask is that from what I've seen in these forums, those people who are having problems with this second patch, are either using a cracked version or have heavily modded the original game. Well...i've the same problem here! And i can assure you that i have a legal copy. With the first patch everything went fine with the - norestrictions option and all settings to full. I had a decent fr and enjoyed the game. Now i patched to 1020. The problem is i cant get the sliders in the settings as i had them before the patch 1020. So i want to reinstall the game and only install the first patch. This has totaly nothing to do with an illegal copy, instead i am forced to dl a patch i do not want to download! Just as COH, where i do not want to install the latest update cause i dont like it. Grtz FKj Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/394984-forced-to-download-patch/#findComment-1058928478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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