Scorpus Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 - No more internet. Cannot access internet at internet café no matter how many times you press LB (360 controller) or E (keyboard) Missions cannot be completed or started That is the only bug I am getting. And yes, I do have a legitimate copy and have NEVER used a crack/no-cd loader for GTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaspersky Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 and what more? - Computer don't work - "Clean Getaway" issue where the mission cannot be completed and? What other problems I will experience if I use a modified launcher with patch 1.0.2? I have the same problem with the computers, I want to check if I have the original files or not without reinstall. I am actually pretty sure I am using the original files. (but maybe my brother change something so I want to check this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 If you are using a cracked or modified launcher you will experience problems like not being able to use the in game computers. Thanks for the info, that's useful. Unfortunately, I'm using a genuine copy of GTA IV and i have my disk in the drive. If this is designed to act on 'modified' versions of the game, and i'm not suggesting it is, then its affecting people with genuine copies of the game, i have my disc in the drive and i still have the problem and i have not used any modified launcher application with the game, ever. I will uninstall GTA IV from my computer, and reinstall it again as the most recent patch should only be applied if im correct in thinking that. I will then post my findings. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpus Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I have the same problem with the computers, I want to check if I have the original files or not without reinstall. I am actually pretty sure I am using the original files. Cracked files are usually smaller than the originals. My original is ~5MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 - No more internet. Cannot access internet at internet café no matter how many times you press LB (360 controller) or E (keyboard) Missions cannot be completed or started That is the only bug I am getting. And yes, I do have a legitimate copy and have NEVER used a crack/no-cd loader for GTA Same here. I'm going to try see if uninstalling the game works, if i reinstall it with only the latest patch, and my gut reckons it will only download the latest, then ill see how the game gets on then. I reckon the patches have messed up somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpus Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 - No more internet. Cannot access internet at internet café no matter how many times you press LB (360 controller) or E (keyboard) Missions cannot be completed or started That is the only bug I am getting. And yes, I do have a legitimate copy and have NEVER used a crack/no-cd loader for GTA Same here. I'm going to try see if uninstalling the game works, if i reinstall it with only the latest patch, and my gut reckons it will only download the latest, then ill see how the game gets on then. I reckon the patches have messed up somewhere I just hope that a new patch is released that fixes this issue. If a new crack comes out first I may be forced to use this because I cannot advance in the game without working computers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Rockstar, i would like to clarify one thing. Some users maybe using genuine copies of the game with unmodified launchers, but to prevent damage to their disc they may be using a virtual drive like daemon tools with an .iso image they have created. Would this too cause this type of behaviour where you are unable to interact with certain objects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Toronto Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Yes I believe the use of deamon tools will have the same effect as using a non-original launcher/disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Yes I believe the use of deamon tools will have the same effect as using a non-original launcher/disc. Thank you for your reply. I've just finished reinstalling the game and i can confirm that if the game is uninstalled and reinstalled with only the latest patch 1.0.2.0 installed the issue with both the interaction with TVs and computers is fixed. Also vendors are now present on the streets. EDIT: This will only work for users with genuine copies of the game, with the original disc in the drive Can i ask that for those of us wish to 'backup' our game, as its natural for original discs to become warn and scratched, what are we to do when the game refuses to play because the DVD cannot be authenticated and those of us who wish to backup our game are denied to play what we have brought. Will there be any work around in the future because securom is finicky? Edited January 27, 2009 by Xenova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvirus1 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 well the computers and TV is not fixed yet after the patch has come. I have done a clean install but still unable to use it. Moreover i supposed to do a misson where i have to meet this girl online and kidnap her. So im stuck there. Unable to use the laptop nore the internet cafe. Please help. Although great work on the patch. Gta4 is now running more smoothly with good fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) well the computers and TV is not fixed yet after the patch has come. I have done a clean install but still unable to use it. Moreover i supposed to do a misson where i have to meet this girl online and kidnap her. So im stuck there. Unable to use the laptop nore the internet cafe. Please help. Although great work on the patch. Gta4 is now running more smoothly with good fps. Okay to test out Rockstar's theory of modified launcher apps being present and that causing the issue, i myself have downloaded Razor 1911 app launcher on my test machine, i patched the game and played. The results, conclusive. It would appear there is a deliberate mechanism at work that was delivered in the latest patch 1.0.2.0 that disables some features of the game if a modified launcher app is present. Without the modified launcher app the game works fine once reinstalled and only patched with the latest patch. However it would seem that this also gets legit copies by the balls too as I myself have the genuine disc in my master computer, and before reinstalling the game, i had the interaction issue with the tv's and computers as you describe. If you have reinstalled your game, and still have the issue, are you sure you are not using the app launcher? Please make sure that the game is in the drive and you are not using virtual drives like daemon tools to run the game. If you are still having problems please post more information so we may better help you. Edited January 27, 2009 by Xenova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpus Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Thank you for your reply. I've just finished reinstalling the game and i can confirm that if the game is uninstalled and reinstalled with only the latest patch 1.0.2.0 installed the issue with both the interaction with TVs and computers is fixed. Also vendors are now present on the streets. EDIT: This will only work for users with genuine copies of the game, with the original disc in the drive Confirmed But still, why do people have to uninstall and reinstall their games if they previously had patch 1.0.1.0 installed? Shouldn't it work from a straight upgrade from 1.0.1.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Thank you for your reply. I've just finished reinstalling the game and i can confirm that if the game is uninstalled and reinstalled with only the latest patch 1.0.2.0 installed the issue with both the interaction with TVs and computers is fixed. Also vendors are now present on the streets. EDIT: This will only work for users with genuine copies of the game, with the original disc in the drive Confirmed But still, why do people have to uninstall and reinstall their games if they previously had patch 1.0.1.0 installed? Shouldn't it work from a straight upgrade from 1.0.1.0? It should, at least that's what is intended, however I can only imagine something is not updating itself properly when the game is patched from 1.0.1.0 to 1.0.2.0. Personally i prefer to reinstall and patch with the latest as you never know what is left lying around from other patches that may indeed cause more problems than they fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpus Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 It should, at least that's what is intended, however I can only imagine something is not updating itself properly when the game is patched from 1.0.1.0 to 1.0.2.0. Personally i prefer to reinstall and patch with the latest as you never know what is left lying around from other patches that may indeed cause more problems than they fix. Could it be that if you were using a no-cd crack/daemon tools when you applied the update that it modifies the GTAIV.exe file depending on what LaunchGTAIV.exe you had. That would explain why a reinstall would fix the problem, but not why I had the problem in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) It should, at least that's what is intended, however I can only imagine something is not updating itself properly when the game is patched from 1.0.1.0 to 1.0.2.0. Personally i prefer to reinstall and patch with the latest as you never know what is left lying around from other patches that may indeed cause more problems than they fix. Could it be that if you were using a no-cd crack/daemon tools when you applied the update that it modifies the GTAIV.exe file depending on what LaunchGTAIV.exe you had. That would explain why a reinstall would fix the problem, but not why I had the problem in the first place... Thing is, i wasn't using any modified launcher app or virtual drive to start with. I just had disc in drive as is intended and i too was getting the weird interaction issues and missing vendors. Only after reinstalling the game did this problem go away. i wasnt using any form of circumvention. Therefore I was curious to the effect of virtual drives and modified launcher apps, thats why i went to the lengths i have to distinguish what is causing what and hopefully deliver some reliable and useful information. EDIT: I would also like to point out that reinstalling the game fixed my earlier issue with being kicked from mutiplayer servers after the 1.0.2.0 patch Edited January 27, 2009 by Xenova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin6 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 The same bug, can`t use internet : / I have original game look : And i don`t using any mod`s crack etc ... simply clear version , no deamon tools and something like this , only Nero 8 original version and two Driver`s DVD : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finknz Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 After using the video editor and saving it comes back to the main area for editing then crashes to desktop. Never had a problem before. Any feedback from Rockstar on this please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 The same bug, can`t use internet : /I have original game look : And i don`t using any mod`s crack etc ... simply clear version , no deamon tools and something like this , only Nero 8 original version and two Driver`s DVD : / Marcin6, I too have had the exact same problem as you I only got around this problem by uninstalling the game. Have you had a go at what i explained earlier on in this thread? And that is to uninstall GTA IV from your computer, reinstall and let GFWL update the game automatically to the latest patch? If that doesn't work, try uninstalling the game with a program like ur uninstaller to clear up all traces of the program. Rockstar, is there any comment on why so many people who are using the game with the original disc in their drives, are experiencing the problems that only users of modified launcher applications should be encountering as per my posts above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 After using the video editor and saving it comes back to the main area for editing then crashes to desktop. Never had a problem before. Any feedback from Rockstar on this please? Ill look into it for you see if i can recreate it. seems as if im working as my own technical support this end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nillansan Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 So far the vendors I never see anymore are the one in front of the motorcycle shop in Alderney, and the one here -> pic location I have come back at different times of day and still don't see them. That said, there are still some vendors in my game, and those that are have been there any time I went to visit them. The other missing objects (benches, cones, concrete dividers, metal dividers/gate things) are in all sorts of places. In the first and second pic there should be all sorts of objects that make up the construction/road work area. Oddly there is still a ped there with a sign directing you around the now non-existent construction. In the third pic there should be benches in that oval in the background, as well as some metal dividers/gates just outside the fence. A picture of the area in my third pic that someone took for comparison. There are also missing objects on the road below that, as you come out of the tunnel there should be some orange traffic cones (they aren't really cones, as they are cylindrical, but I'm not sure what they're called.) That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Dear Rockstar, Thank you for your continuing support I am glad that I can tweak my graphics setting more, the game is running a bit more smooth, but it still needs some optimizing. Can you tell us if the -memrestrict XXXXXXXXX commandlines are still recommended? As you can read in the above post there are generally alot of things that are missing, please fix this. We want the full experience of Liberty City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pajkoooo Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Texture bugs on Highest with using commandline.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) There is still a vast collection of problems with the game since the latest patch. - The interaction failure of TV's and Computers and lack of Vendors on the streets can be rectified by reinstalling the game, making sure you use the retail disc and do not use any modified loader app as this has been proven to cause problems. Even if you haven't applied a modified loader to the game and you are experiencing this problem, reinstalling the game should fix the issue. For those of you who purchased the game via Steam, you may have to re-download your game and let Steam re-apply the patch. - The video editor has problems after saving content within it. It will typically crash to desktop when trying to resume the game. - Some users are experiencing missing textures. Make sure that you are using the latest drivers for your hardware and you don't exceed the Medium to High settings in the game depending on your hardware, and you have the latest version of DirectX. Again, a reinstall may fix this issue. Although i alone haven't experienced no textures, just misplaced ones. - There is still prominent memory issues, and the game quitting and displaying 'RESC 10: Out of Video Memory' error, no '-memrestrict' command lines appear to make any difference at the moment. - The game still comes to a juddering halt as the frame rates plummet, this can be induced very quickly in a helicopter at a low altitude. - Some people are experiencing various issues with sound, from harshness to unsynchronised sound - Game crashes randomly, and will either freeze and continue playing sound, or crash to desktop. Crashes are also prominent when accessing the map or pause menu. - Thanks to CHILLI for spotting the missing info. Edited January 27, 2009 by Xenova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Texture bugs on Highest with using commandline.txt What parameters are you using in the commandline.txt file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperwire93 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Holy sh*t, you're good Xenova. You can list many problems and steps to fix them. Good Job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Holy sh*t, you're good Xenova. You can list many problems and steps to fix them. Good Job Thanks, i was up late last night trying to debug cause i want to play the game without a crash and i was seeing if i can recreate the problems people are having. If its replicable, its a bug. I can replicate most issues apart from entirely missing world textures. Edited January 27, 2009 by Xenova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHILLI Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 you forgot to list one thing: freezing game. I can play for just 5 min or even 10 hours, but it will most likely freeze at some point. PC parts: dualcore 2.66GHz AMD Athlon NVIDIA 9600 GT (this card has problems with older games like NFS MW, but FlatOut (the first) never crashes the PC) 2GB DDR2 RAM 108BG Hard disc (around 88 since it's in two parts, one around 20gb and the other around 88gb) I dont know what the clocking is on each part, so dont ask me what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenova Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 you forgot to list one thing: freezing game. I can play for just 5 min or even 10 hours, but it will most likely freeze at some point. PC parts: dualcore 2.66GHz AMD Athlon NVIDIA 9600 GT (this card has problems with older games like NFS MW, but FlatOut (the first) never crashes the PC) 2GB DDR2 RAM 108BG Hard disc (around 88 since it's in two parts, one around 20gb and the other around 88gb) I dont know what the clocking is on each part, so dont ask me what it is I'm getting the random freezing too, i just added that to the list, i forgot it. I was trying to gain the achievement 'under the radar' and the game crashed when i had 2 left to do and it froze... my freezing happens every 20 or 30 mins, less if in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nillansan Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 There is still a vast collection of problems with the game since the latest patch. - The interaction failure of TV's and Computers and lack of Vendors on the streets can be rectified by reinstalling the game, making sure you use the retail disc and do not use any modified loader app as this has been proven to cause problems. Even if you haven't applied a modified loader to the game and you are experiencing this problem, reinstalling the game should fix the issue. For those of you who purchased the game via Steam, you may have to re-download your game and let Steam re-apply the patch. Xenova thanks for taking your time to provide us with potential solutions to these annoying bugs But does your fix also work if you reinstall and re-apply the latest patch through Live? And does this fix also rectify the lack of other objects (such as benches, cones, concrete dividers, metal dividers/gates)? See http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1058915511 for further details and screenies. I am not going to start on single player until this is fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin6 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 If you are using a cracked or modified launcher you will experience problems like not being able to use the in game computers. You know what ? This is booooring now , Please tell us ? Are you reading those all post`s or you find some post with was posted some day`s ago and you reply , please don`t use crack OMG !!!! You f*cked up game with this patch and you know that , look up , i`m using retail game and have this prob. no crack`s mod nothing like this ! Just reinstalled , installed newest patch and the same ! Like a f*cking technical support , "please install new Allplayer or something like this sh*t ! OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TygerGoose Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) I don't know if this helps others but I don't seem to have the PC/TV problem. I can't say about the food vendors as I rarely use them or at least I do not memorize their locations. What I did was: 1. Revert to original files (that is, un-'magic' everything if you are modding/tweaking the files. 2. Manual download and apply patch 1.0.2 3. PS, I manually downloaded and installed patch 1.0.1 as well previously. 4. Reapplied my tweaks. I do not have the crashes or bugs reported so far. I do seem to see a better vram usage but perhaps a heavier CPU load compared to 1.0.1. Game seems smoother on the whole, no crashes after ~2Hrs of play but stutters on occasion requiring Alt-Tab or reboot. Only glitch I have (once only, and haven't tried to replicate it) is darts game freezes and hung on me. As I have an ATI x1700 mobility, indoor pool/strip club lighting is still bjorked, so are the images from the internet but then I'm using a less than recommended video card. Hope it helps! Note: I reduced bloom, the number of raindrops, and FarClp. Specs: T7200 2.0G Core 2 Duo, 256MB ATI x1700 mobility, 3GB RAM (667MHz) Running: 800x484, Medium: textures, reflections, water. Low: Shadows, Rendering. 1, 1, 35, 0 Commandline: -availablevidmem 1.2, memrestrict to 251MB Edited January 27, 2009 by TygerGoose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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