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Your still missing the point. Look logically i would agree with you it's gpu limited i would totally agree with you, but i'm looking at all the other benchmarks and i'm getting very low performance and i'm also looking at gta san andreas a game USE TO PERFORM good and i'm getting lower performance. What part of that do you have trouble with? Now let's get crazy, MAYBE the VRAM is failing on the card could make sense? maybe but that's just getting a bit crazy since i haven't had any crashes in lot's of other games. It just doesn't make sense.

 

Please i would like to hear your explanation to things i mentioned above. especially where it's been documented that a 9800 gt and a gtx280 give about 5 - 7 fps more while the cpu shows the biggest impact. Please elaborate, i would like to hear your answer to this.

 

 

EDIT: give me 10 minutes i'm going to bombard you with nothing but benches so you can see the numbers for themselves.

im saying that new motherboar + brand new cpu + old quite a weak card is the problem

 

and 280 wouldn give just another 5-7 fps ...there r guys here with weaker cpu's and play it on 280 on max settings with better fps ...but when u 'need assistance' and just saying the same over and over again ... u really dont seeking for help. i tried , u dont listen so i really dont care ... for comparasion , im playing it on 16 months old pc , on as high settings as possible around 40 fps avarage ...so i know what im talking about

 

have luck. bye

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Your still missing the point. Look logically i would agree with you it's gpu limited i would totally agree with you, but i'm looking at all the other benchmarks and i'm getting very low performance and i'm also looking at gta san andreas a game USE TO PERFORM good and i'm getting lower performance. What part of that do you have trouble with? Now let's get crazy, MAYBE the VRAM is failing on the card could make sense? maybe but that's just getting a bit crazy since i haven't had any crashes in lot's of other games. It just doesn't make sense.

 

Please i would like to hear your explanation to things i mentioned above. especially where it's been documented that a 9800 gt and a gtx280 give about 5 - 7 fps more while the cpu shows the biggest impact. Please elaborate, i would like to hear your answer to this.

 

 

EDIT: give me 10 minutes i'm going to bombard you with nothing but benches so you can see the numbers for themselves.

im saying that new motherboar + brand new cpu + old quite a weak card is the problem

 

and 280 wouldn give just another 5-7 fps ...there r guys here with weaker cpu's and play it on 280 on max settings with better fps ...but when u 'need assistance' and just saying the same over and over again ... u really dont seeking for help. i tried , u dont listen so i really dont care ... for comparasion , im playing it on 16 months old pc , on as high settings as possible around 40 fps avarage ...so i know what im talking about

 

have luck. bye

OMG are you FOR REAL? so let me get this straight

 

so the benchmarks that show the difference between a 9800 GT and a GTX280 performance wise which added up to about 5 fps difference which was done by OFFICIAL review site is WRONG.

 

so the GPU IS THE MOST IMPORTANT thing in GTA 4 and thats why it has been recorded that the GPU Core barely even gets hot when GTA 4 RUNS?

 

OMFG, is this guy for real. Is there no tech on this forum that cares to back up the facts.

 

 

 

EDIT: and all those other benchmarks showing guys with weaker cpus and 8800 GT's getting better FPS then my rig, they just got "LUCKY" huh ok

 

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9800 GTX overclock of 400mhz gives 8 FPS INCREASE

 

 

C2d 2,66 / 2gb ddr 2 ram high speed / 8800gts 512

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 42.40

Duration: 37.14 sec

CPU Usage: 86%

System memory usage: 93%

Video memory usage: 96%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1280 x 1024 (70 Hz)

Texture Quality: Medium

Render Quality: High

View Distance: 25

Detail Distance: 37

 

this with a CORE 2 DUO and same video card.

 

 

 

 

 

average FPS: 38.38 (24 before)

Duration: 37.26 sec

CPU Usage: 80%

 

System memory usage: 33%<------- So lets see... math wizard i am not.. Using 2640megs of system ram just for the dinky mopeds.. must be nuts once it gets into the high rises and suburbs!!

 

Video memory usage: 100%

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High (only vista64 lets me enjoy high quality textures.. 32 was very sluggish and chunky)

Render Quality: Highest

View Distance: 35 (holy crap! i wouldnt attempt any setting over 20 in 32bit)

Detail Distance: 100 (same here low 40s was as high as I could go)

Shadows: 16

Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate

Service Pack 1

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 SSC GX2 (Stable OC to 710-1800-1120 from base of 675-1674-1050)

Video Driver version: 180.84 (This gave me huge increase as well yesterday)

Audio Adapter: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)

Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU @ 2.66GHz

 

 

 

This with a man with a 9800 GX2

 

 

SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU TRYING TO DEBATE? cause the numbers dont lie.

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OMG are you FOR REAL? so let me get this straight

 

so the benchmarks that show the difference between a 9800 GT and a GTX280 performance wise which added up to about 5 fps difference which was done by OFFICIAL review site is WRONG.

 

so the GPU IS THE MOST IMPORTANT thing in GTA 4 and thats why it has been recorded that the GPU Core barely even gets hot when GTA 4 RUNS?

 

OMFG, is this guy for real. Is there no tech on this forum that cares to back up the facts.

 

 

 

EDIT: and all those other benchmarks showing guys with weaker cpus and 8800 GT's getting better FPS then my rig, they just got "LUCKY" huh ok

theres a guy : thales100 with 280 running it on max settings ... so ask him how is that possible, i bet hes a liar , cause the 'official review' says something else he ?

and i have a GTX with 750 vram , which is needed in gta, and it sure is a luck that i run it absolutly fine , i must have a different game right.

 

but as i said... u were asking where is the problem , by checking your pc compenents ..the problem is that u have a bad built rig. (the sh*tty performance under lowest settings just underlines it)

 

and from the previous childish flame i took a lesson , that its pointles to start conversation with u.

and besides , ur the one with a problem . so i dont really care. have fun playing fella sigh.gif

 

have a nice day wink.gif

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OMG are you FOR REAL? so let me get this straight

 

so the benchmarks that show the difference between a 9800 GT and a GTX280 performance wise which added up to about 5 fps difference which was done by OFFICIAL review site is WRONG.

 

so  the GPU IS THE MOST IMPORTANT thing in GTA 4 and thats why it has been recorded that the GPU Core barely even gets hot when GTA 4 RUNS?

 

OMFG, is this guy for real. Is there no tech on this forum that cares to back up the facts.

 

 

 

EDIT: and all those other benchmarks showing guys with weaker cpus and 8800 GT's getting better FPS then my rig, they just got "LUCKY" huh ok

theres a guy : thales100 with 280 running it on max settings ... so ask him how is that possible, i bet hes a liar , cause the 'official review' says something else he ?

and i have a GTX with 750 vram , which is needed in gta, and it sure is a luck that i run it absolutly fine , i must have a different game right.

 

but as i said... u were asking where is the problem , by checking your pc compenents ..the problem is that u have a bad built rig. (the sh*tty performance under lowest settings just underlines it)

 

and from the previous childish flame i took a lesson , that its pointles to start conversation with u.

and besides , ur the one with a problem . so i dont really care. have fun playing fella sigh.gif

 

have a nice day wink.gif

What the hell are you talking about, i have a BAD BUILT RIG. my childish FLAME? thats funny because i got nothing but a childish response from you and then you tried to convince with me it. What is a BAD BUILT RIG? didn't i start a topic to try to resolve why i am getting this error, posting nothing but benchmarks. You know what i don't want YOUR help, your fake, you give me these half ass answers when infact you don't know sh*t except for GTX 280 like all typical other people, no actual Details just name brands.

 

O well no help then, great i think i'll go consult a hardware forum.

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What's with people getting a high end CPU and a lower-end GPU?

If you read what it says you'd notice that you're bottlenecking your CPU.

Get a GPU with more vram.

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Did you install motherboard drivers? I had some stupid issue like that and than realised i had no drivers biggrin.gif

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What's with people getting a high end CPU and a lower-end GPU?

If you read what it says you'd notice that you're bottlenecking your CPU.

Get a GPU with more vram.

Are the links to the benchmarks that show people with the same video card as me get more fps and the tests with the people comparing high end videocards and proccesors not being displayed or something? and i already said i'm getting a gtx280, f*ck IT. i await the next 1 - 2 days and i will get the GTX 280 and IF I GET THE SAME sh*t PERFORMANCE I dare you to post a comment in my thread. So ok then i await for my card to arrive.

 

 

 

edit: installed INTEL INF CHIPSET drivers latest one's to

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What the hell are you talking about, i have a BAD BUILT RIG. my childish FLAME? thats funny because i got nothing but a childish response from you and then you tried to convince with me it. What is a BAD BUILT RIG? didn't i start a topic to try to resolve why i am getting this error, posting nothing but benchmarks. You know what i don't want YOUR help, your fake, you give me these half ass answers when infact you don't know sh*t except for GTX 280 like all typical other people, no actual Details just name brands.

 

i bult my rig, it still can handle every game , including GTA. 'no, i dont have a 280'

bad built ? new motherboard, new cpu , old cheap lousy gpu, whisch is taking down the performance... 2x3 RAM ? why not 4 and put them in dual channel ? ....that my dear is a bad build rig , and your sh*tty performance just says the same.

 

and 'i could beat u , and no , u r gay ...bla bla ' that doesnt seem to be childish to u ? well that sums it all up.

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What the hell are you talking about, i have a BAD BUILT RIG. my childish FLAME? thats funny because i got nothing but a childish response from you and then you tried to convince with me it. What is a BAD BUILT RIG? didn't i start a topic to try to resolve why i am getting this error, posting nothing but benchmarks. You know what i don't want YOUR help, your fake, you give me these half ass answers when infact you don't know sh*t except for GTX 280 like all typical other people, no actual Details just name brands.

 

i bult my rig, it still can handle every game , including GTA. 'no, i dont have a 280'

bad built ? new motherboard, new cpu , old cheap lousy gpu, whisch is taking down the performance... 2x3 RAM ? why not 4 and put them in dual channel ? ....that my dear is a bad build rig , and your sh*tty performance just says the same.

 

and 'i could beat u , and no , u r gay ...bla bla ' that doesnt seem to be childish to u ? well that sums it all up.

are you ignorant to numbers or something? Let me explain to you "MY DEAR" a bad built rig is only built poorly towards the goal it was intended to do with out doing it. For example if i wanted to do heavy multi tasking then a high end GPU and a single core processor would be very poor choice. You get it?

 

In this case it has been recorded that the gpu barely shows much impact between the 9800 gt - gtx 280 but the processor shows the most ( IF YOU BOTHERED TO EVEN LOOK AT BENCHES I POSTED FROM OTHER USERS, BUT SINCE YOU KNOW IT ALL ) performance gain even with older generation video cards. Then That would mean that my processor for the program GTA 4 is actually in the RIGHT BUILD category.

 

Did you understand that? If there is something that your not getting which i am explaining to you feel free to ask and i will try again, nobody's here to flame you i got better things to do. But it seems you choose to NOT pay attention to the delicateness of the matter.

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is the native resolution of your monitor really 1920? well your video card cant handle that resolution. you need to either lower some of the other settings, or lower your resolution. the difference between your scores and those other scores you are trying to match is that they use a resolution that is physically almost half the size that you are using. 800x600 in inches is 8x10.5inches. like the size of a sheet of white printer paper. 1280x1024 is 17x13.6 1920x1200 is 25.6x16 going from 800x600 to 1920 is an increase of 3x. 3x the ram, 3x the amount of gpu needed to process it. you need to be more realistic in what you are trying to achieve. the cpu plays a huge part, but the gpu and system ram do too. clearly in this case your video card just wont pass muster. no need for a flamewar. just lower the resolution or turn down the settings. my suggestion is bring the draw distance to a much lower number like 35 then play with the other sliders from there.

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is the native resolution of your monitor really 1920? well your video card cant handle that resolution. you need to either lower some of the other settings, or lower your resolution. the difference between your scores and those other scores you are trying to match is that they use a resolution that is physically almost half the size that you are using.  800x600 in inches is 8x10.5inches. like the size of a sheet of white printer paper. 1280x1024 is 17x13.6  1920x1200 is 25.6x16  going from 800x600 to 1920 is an increase of 3x. 3x the ram, 3x the amount of gpu needed to process it.  you need to be more realistic in what you are trying to achieve. the cpu plays a huge part, but the gpu and system ram do too.  clearly in this case your video card just wont pass muster. no need for a flamewar. just lower the resolution or turn down the settings. my suggestion is bring the draw distance to a much lower number like 35 then play with the other sliders from there.

I'm not comparing 1920 x 1200 to there scores, i'm comparing the lower end resolution scores to there's , which is still way below.

 

EDIT: i came here for assistance but it seems nobody knows. Your option is for me to ignore it, i choose not to ignore a system deficiency, like i wouldn't ignore if my hard drive produces bad sectors and freeze skips. I guess that's just me so if there's somebody who might know please feel free to post =|

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What the hell are you talking about, i have a BAD BUILT RIG. my childish FLAME? thats funny because i got nothing but a childish response from you and then you tried to convince with me it. What is a BAD BUILT RIG? didn't i start a topic to try to resolve why i am getting this error, posting nothing but benchmarks. You know what i don't want YOUR help, your fake, you give me these half ass answers when infact you don't know sh*t except for GTX 280 like all typical other people, no actual Details just name brands.

 

i bult my rig, it still can handle every game , including GTA. 'no, i dont have a 280'

bad built ? new motherboard, new cpu , old cheap lousy gpu, whisch is taking down the performance... 2x3 RAM ? why not 4 and put them in dual channel ? ....that my dear is a bad build rig , and your sh*tty performance just says the same.

 

and 'i could beat u , and no , u r gay ...bla bla ' that doesnt seem to be childish to u ? well that sums it all up.

are you ignorant to numbers or something? Let me explain to you "MY DEAR" a bad built rig is only built poorly towards the goal it was intended to do with out doing it. For example if i wanted to do heavy multi tasking then a high end GPU and a single core processor would be very poor choice. You get it?

 

In this case it has been recorded that the gpu barely shows much impact between the 9800 gt - gtx 280 but the processor shows the most ( IF YOU BOTHERED TO EVEN LOOK AT BENCHES I POSTED FROM OTHER USERS, BUT SINCE YOU KNOW IT ALL ) performance gain even with older generation video cards. Then That would mean that my processor for the program GTA 4 is actually in the RIGHT BUILD category.

 

Did you understand that? If there is something that your not getting which i am explaining to you feel free to ask and i will try again, nobody's here to flame you i got better things to do. But it seems you choose to NOT pay attention to the delicateness of the matter.

numbers ok : in your case , the only nuber that matters is the fps : you have weak fps on lowest settings, i have a great fps on max setting possible (setting that u cant even set with your card without commandline tweaking.) so why do u think should i care for your or other benches ?

 

so how is it possible that on your 'NEW super SYSTEM' it runs crap on low settings , and on my year and a half older it runs smooth on max .... u call it 'luck' ... i call it bad built rig.

and since in games performance is all that matters , the numbers (fps) says it all.

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What the hell are you talking about, i have a BAD BUILT RIG. my childish FLAME? thats funny because i got nothing but a childish response from you and then you tried to convince with me it. What is a BAD BUILT RIG? didn't i start a topic to try to resolve why i am getting this error, posting nothing but benchmarks. You know what i don't want YOUR help, your fake, you give me these half ass answers when infact you don't know sh*t except for GTX 280 like all typical other people, no actual Details just name brands.

 

i bult my rig, it still can handle every game , including GTA. 'no, i dont have a 280'

bad built ? new motherboard, new cpu , old cheap lousy gpu, whisch is taking down the performance... 2x3 RAM ? why not 4 and put them in dual channel ? ....that my dear is a bad build rig , and your sh*tty performance just says the same.

 

and 'i could beat u , and no , u r gay ...bla bla ' that doesnt seem to be childish to u ? well that sums it all up.

are you ignorant to numbers or something? Let me explain to you "MY DEAR" a bad built rig is only built poorly towards the goal it was intended to do with out doing it. For example if i wanted to do heavy multi tasking then a high end GPU and a single core processor would be very poor choice. You get it?

 

In this case it has been recorded that the gpu barely shows much impact between the 9800 gt - gtx 280 but the processor shows the most ( IF YOU BOTHERED TO EVEN LOOK AT BENCHES I POSTED FROM OTHER USERS, BUT SINCE YOU KNOW IT ALL ) performance gain even with older generation video cards. Then That would mean that my processor for the program GTA 4 is actually in the RIGHT BUILD category.

 

Did you understand that? If there is something that your not getting which i am explaining to you feel free to ask and i will try again, nobody's here to flame you i got better things to do. But it seems you choose to NOT pay attention to the delicateness of the matter.

numbers ok : in your case , the only nuber that matters is the fps : you have weak fps on lowest settings, i have a great fps on max setting possible (setting that u cant even set with your card without commandline tweaking.) so why do u think should i care for your or other benches ?

 

so how is it possible that on your 'NEW super SYSTEM' it runs crap on low settings , and on my year and a half older it runs smooth on max .... u call it 'luck' ... i call it bad built rig.

and since in games performance is all that matters , the numbers (fps) says it all.

YOU COMPLETELY STATED WITH OUT SAYING IT YOU DON'T CARE FOR OTHER BENCHES AND WHY SHOULD I CARE FOR YOURS. WHY THE [email protected] ARE YOU POSTING IN THIS THREAD. WHAT THE [email protected] IS WRONG WITH YOU, HAVE YOU TOOK YOUR MEDS? ENJOY YOURSELF, WHAT THE f*ck WHY POST IN MY THREAD IF YOU DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT ANYTHING, NOT FACTS, OR PROVEN NUMBERS. SO JUST LEAVE.

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YOU COMPLETELY STATED WITH OUT SAYING IT YOU DON'T CARE FOR OTHER BENCHES AND WHY SHOULD I CARE FOR YOURS. WHY THE [email protected] ARE YOU POSTING IN THIS THREAD. WHAT THE [email protected] IS WRONG WITH YOU, HAVE YOU TOOK YOUR MEDS? ENJOY YOURSELF, WHAT THE f*ck WHY POST IN MY THREAD IF YOU DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT ANYTHING, NOT FACTS, OR PROVEN NUMBERS. SO JUST LEAVE.

bad built rig , and it seems you have broken CapsLock too lol.gif that suposed to be a illusion of shouting or what ? sigh.gif

 

btw : u didnt answeared smile.gif how on earth is that possible

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AHAHAHAHAHA, you are one 1 [email protected] ID... o my i applaud you =p you really are a INBREED like wow and you believe your not but ok, and i don't even like to offend people.

 

 

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:BeWfk...lient=firefox-a

 

More results

 

 

Statistics

Average FPS: 43.29

Duration: 37.24 sec

CPU Usage: 60%

System memory usage: 62%

Video memory usage: 60%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: Medium

Render Quality: High

View Distance: 25

Detail Distance: 25

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Service Pack 3

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT

Video Driver version: 181.20

Audio Adapter: SB X-Fi Audio [0001]

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz

 

 

 

Please ignore them though, cause you know numbers don't mean sh*t only other people's words do especially with high post counts.

 

 

EDIT:I'm not being sarcastic or anything, and that picture with that cat. ahahha maybe that really is you.

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My E8500 gets more than that.

 

 

Op will suicidal.gif

Yes i'm ready to kill myself wt hell =| FINALLY the smart people must be waking up. who agree with me something is wrong with my fps

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That really sucks. My E8500 gets more than that.

 

Try Windows 7 if you have the time.

I really don't want to get WINDOWS 7 because i mean it works on as it should on other peoples rigs with vista and xp and i already did format reinstall of 3 different os's I was wondering could you take a benchmark of 1920 x 1200 or 1600 x 1200 on all settings completly low and post your bench results for the ignorant people to finally see. ( well some of them not all )

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so you have a I7......and a ban:

 

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1387396

 

 

not an average individual indeed !

"BRO" let me ask u something, i use the term "BRO" why are you following me around like a little b!tch? like seriously "BRO" i'm not from the SUB URB "BRO" i really don't have any words, i'm stupefied as how somebody brings there negativity from a completely different forum to another forum, clearly they got no life and nothing to better to do. Thats why your first post was just that. Maybe one day you'll understand that feeling when you get married to some hoe, or she probably will understand that feeling anyways. You should go back to your forum.

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so you have a I7......and a ban:

 

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1387396

 

 

not an average individual indeed !

He closed his account you idiot.

 

@n3b0dy66: My PSU is broken I'm waiting for the RMA. I'll get it for you when it come back.

Much apperciated it, finally some serious thinkers around here. But now that we established there is a problem. What could it be i'm not getting this.

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My E8500 gets more than that.

 

 

Op will suicidal.gif

Yes i'm ready to kill myself wt hell =| FINALLY the smart people must be waking up. who agree with me something is wrong with my fps

I have yet to see a bench from you that shows your i7 or 9800GTX. You got to admit, your doing a lot of crying for not put up one of YOUR benchmarks.

 

let just see your i7 put a mark3d06 orb. You know one that looks like this------->mark3d06orb 19,001 This is just a mild overclock

 

 

 

 

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My E8500 gets more than that.

 

 

Op will suicidal.gif

Yes i'm ready to kill myself wt hell =| FINALLY the smart people must be waking up. who agree with me something is wrong with my fps

I have yet to see a bench from you that shows your i7 or 9800GTX. You got to admit, your doing a lot of crying for not put up one of YOUR benchmarks.

 

let just see your i7 put a mark3d06 orb. You know one that looks like this------->mark3d06orb 19,001 This is just a mild overclock

I posted my 3dmark scores, in this thread whatsthat.gif , not on the orb cause i don't really care for that, i posted 3dmark05 06 everest memory cache , super pi

 

So how am i crying if i already did all tests, You just didn't care to read all of it right? i would appreciate if you could admit it.

 

 

EDIT: and what are you talkin about i didnt post my scores, i been posting them through the whole thread? i dont have a GTX i said GT

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Your doing all this yelling a f this and f that. Hold on help me to understand. the bench mark shows the i7 as 8 threads as PIII xeon? And your using XP 64> Dont use that cpuz people can steal it. Not that it matters.

 

Use the http at the bottom of forum banner. No one can hyjack it then. Can you understand my confusion?

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Your doing all this yelling a f this and f that. Hold on help me to understand. the bench mark shows the i7 as 8 threads as PIII xeon? And your using XP 64

I'm not yelling at nobody, but when i'm trying to explain to people the situation and there TELLING ME something wrong which i know is fact and i got lucky 2 other people can confirm what i'm saying. I've used 3 os'es Xp32 Xp64 my current and vista 64 same results. Keep in mind gta san andreas is also performing low, I can not figure out what is going on but i know my GTA IV is way low.

 

Yes the i7 shows up as a xeon

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Your doing all this yelling a f this and f that. Hold on help me to understand. the bench mark shows the i7 as 8 threads as PIII xeon? And your using XP 64> Dont use that cpuz people can steal it. Not that it matters.

 

Use the http at the bottom of forum banner. No one can hyjack it then. Can you understand my confusion?

What do you mean people can steal it? You mean steal my cpu-z validation? i'm not really understanding YOUR confusion, but there is alot of confusion in this thread including mines. The more confusion the better i guess.

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