1/4 Life Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) Red Army Mod (Realistic Weapon Mod) Version: 2.0 Credits: 1/4 Life - AK-74 Texture, Weapon Tweaks. PelPix - AK-74 Bumpmap and Specular map. Toperia - Blooming Crosshair. Changelog: V2 Changes: -Decreased AK-74 and M4A1's rate of fire a small amount. -Further decreased accuracy of the AK-74. -AK-74 magazines now hold 60 rounds (Based off of the model). -Improved AK-74 texture. -Improved M4A1 texture. -Improved MP10 texture. -Darkened and gave most of the gun textures a more reflective look. -Severely decreased accuracy of the 'Deagle'. -Increased Micro Uzi rounds/min to 1700 -Made all of the guns more reflective, giving them a blue like finish. -Added Blooming Crosshair Option. -Increased Pistol rate of fire. v1 Changes: -Skin Change: Changed AK-47 to AK-74m (Niko's Serbian, why should he be using old hand-me-down sh*t from third world countries? AK-74m is the standard now.) -Changed AK-47 (AK-74m) rate of fire from ~300 rounds/min to ~650 rounds/min. -Changed M4a1 rate of fire from ~300 rounds/min to ~700 rounds/min. -Changed MP5A2 rate of fire from ~200 rounds/min to ~800 rounds/min. -Changed Micro Uzi rate of fire from ~150 rounds/min to ~600 rounds/min. -Increased AK-47 (AK-74m) damage to be greater than that of the M4a1. (Only slightly) -Decreased accuracy of the AK-47 (AK-74m) to be less than that of the M4a1. -RPM changes only apply when aimed. When blind firing (From behind cover, usually using one hand) the rate of fire will return to normal. -Severely decreased accuracy when blind firing or firing from a car. -Permanently disabled auto-aim on both Keyboard/Mouse and Joystick based controllers. -Increased damage of AK-47 (AK-74m). -Decreased accuracy of AK-47 (AK-74m). -All weapons are held with two hands except when blind firing. (Uzi is still held with one hand, due to an animation issue.) -Uzi, Glock, and MP5 all do about the same damage, due to the three using similar ammo. (9x18 and 9x19) Suggestions to the user: Do not hold down the primary fire button. Use small 3 round bursts if you can. This will help you conserve ammo. With the new realistic rates of fire you can blow a 30 round mag in ~3 seconds. Future Improvements: Firing mode Alice script/ASI mod. More weapon skins. Custom models. Custom sounds (Waiting for the GTAIV sound packages to finally be editable. Actual audio files are ready to go.) Improved AK-74 texture. (With model?) Comments: Want to help make this mod more realistic? Notice a mistake? Post here! I downloaded your mod, and I dislike your weapon customizations. Any way I can just have the new AK skin?: Yes, simply replace your weapons.xml with the backup (Or if you just downloaded this mod for the skin, and never installed it prior, don't touch weapons.xml), and install weapons.img That will get you the skin without all of the other tweaks. Can I use this in Multiplayer?: Yes, you can, but I ask that you do not. The higher rates of fire give you a very large advantage in multiplayer. If you have to play multiplayer, only do it in free play servers. Why Red Army mod?: I called this Red Army mod based on Brucie's "Red Army sh*t" comment during the middle half of the game. It seemed to fit. Download: Red Army Mod V2 - Filefront (7z) Video: Edited January 26, 2009 by 1/4 Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loczek47 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Damn , I love this !! I hate AK 47...I mean I like it but it's boring ... Thanks for this mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topeira Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i think the rate of fire on the guns is way too fast. more than what u claim it is. i find the originals better. not to mention that one of the ways the game kinda balanced it's guns is the slower ROF of the ARs. now they function as well and SMGs only stronger. also there is no real decrease in accuracy when blindfiring. its impossible to make blind firing much less accurate than the normal firing. i dont understand why rockstar made blind firing just as accurate as normal firing... what I did in order to make it less affective is made the ROF from behind cover 0.65 on SMGs and 0.6 on ARs. i let the pistols have the same ROF behind cover to give them a tiny edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/4 Life Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Version 2.0 is almost done. -Decreased AK-74 and M4A1's rate of fire a small amount. -Further decreased accuracy of the AK-74. -AK-74 magazines now hold 60 rounds (Based off of the model). -Improved AK-74 texture. -Improved M4A1 texture. -Improved MP10 texture (It now looks more like an MP5). -Darkened and gave most of the gun textures a more reflective look. -Severely decreased accuracy of the 'Deagle'. Anything else you want added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loczek47 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I love new rate fire , this is best weapon mod in this world for GTA IV You should add real gun names , you can edit .gtx files with SA gtx editor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loczek47 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) i think the rate of fire on the guns is way too fast. more than what u claim it is. i find the originals better. not to mention that one of the ways the game kinda balanced it's guns is the slower ROF of the ARs. now they function as well and SMGs only stronger. also there is no real decrease in accuracy when blindfiring. its impossible to make blind firing much less accurate than the normal firing. i dont understand why rockstar made blind firing just as accurate as normal firing... what I did in order to make it less affective is made the ROF from behind cover 0.65 on SMGs and 0.6 on ARs. i let the pistols have the same ROF behind cover to give them a tiny edge. The decrasing fire rate when blindfiring is realistic in some way....If you would blindfire UZI with ONE hand , you would shoot burst fire , it's hard to shoot UZI with one hand and without burst fire. Edited January 22, 2009 by loczek47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/4 Life Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) I love new rate fire , this is best weapon mod in this world for GTA IV You should add real gun names , you can edit .gtx files with SA gtx editor Now there's an idea! -Weapons now have real names. (Two versions of this. One with proper car names, and one without.) -Ranges increased to real world values. Version 2 will be done by tomorrow night. Keep up the suggestions! Edited January 22, 2009 by 1/4 Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loczek47 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) You should decrase ammount of bullets in Deagle magazine from 9 to 7 I don't think there are 9 bullets capacity magazines for Deagle. EDIT: Forget about this idea , there are magazines for Deagle with 9 bullets capacity. Edited January 22, 2009 by loczek47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/4 Life Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) You should decrase ammount of bullets in Deagle magazine from 9 to 7 I don't think there are 9 bullets capacity magazines for Deagle.EDIT: Forget about this idea , there are magazines for Deagle with 9 bullets capacity. * 9 round (.357) * 8 round (.41 and .44) * 7 round (.440 Cor-bon and .50AE) Thanks for the suggestion, but: The 'DEagle' is an overrated, inaccurate, expensive, complicated, and generally stupid gun that never should have existed. The only place it's used is in movies and games. Nobody in their right mind actually owns a real one. So, I'll stick with the 9 round mag (.357, anything is better than the standard 50cal version) and lower the damage a bit until I can model something (anything) to replace it. Edited January 22, 2009 by 1/4 Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loczek47 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hey , is the V2 released already yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topeira Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 1\4 life, did u change the accuracy? i see no change in the accuracy of the guns. the real life feel of the guns is if u change their accuracy to something really high. for example - try changing pistols and SMGs accuracy to 9 while ARs to 14 (AK can be 16) instead of the 0.5 they have now. the recoil and affect it has on how u shoot while moving and such is so much better. HOWEVER (!!!!!) this also reduces the AIs accuracy significantly. u will notice the change in how the game becomes easier. (on the flip side, changing weapon's accuracy to 0.0 will make the AI more accurate and the game more challenging. just a tip) but still i recommend u trying to change the weapon's accuracy to what i said and see how it feels. the fact that the bullets dont all go into the same spot andd that the blooming of the crosshair actually means something is more like rainbow6 than GTA... it's such a shame the AI suffers so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/4 Life Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hey , is the V2 released already yet ? It'll be out sometime tomorrow. Toperia, I'll see what I can do with the accuracy. Hopefully I can keep the AI somewhat balanced. Otherwise, there's no real problem with the guns being accurate. The first three shots should always be dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topeira Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hey , is the V2 released already yet ? It'll be out sometime tomorrow. Toperia, I'll see what I can do with the accuracy. Hopefully I can keep the AI somewhat balanced. Otherwise, there's no real problem with the guns being accurate. The first three shots should always be dead on. not really. recoil is a bitch. i remember my merry military days and controlling an automatic AR is impossible. an MP5 should be easier to handle though i never fired one, also this is NOT an MP5... the only way to keep the AI accurate while giving recoil to the guns is by adding weapon slots to the game and creating a duplicated version for every weapon and then telling the AI to use one version of the weapon and make niko use the other and then changing niko's weapons to something more realistic. p.s. - did u lower the amount of ammo u can carry with every weapon? reducing it to about 5 magazins each? if u r going to realism u should probably do that. i can also recomand u try MY blooming crosshair MOD. http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=ST&...entry1058882077 it does add recoil BUT it gives the impression of losing accuracy and having it harder to aim. i updated the mod yesterday by a few changes. give it a go. maybe u would want to use some of the ideas i used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/4 Life Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Hey , is the V2 released already yet ? It'll be out sometime tomorrow. Toperia, I'll see what I can do with the accuracy. Hopefully I can keep the AI somewhat balanced. Otherwise, there's no real problem with the guns being accurate. The first three shots should always be dead on. not really. recoil is a bitch. i remember my merry military days and controlling an automatic AR is impossible. an MP5 should be easier to handle though i never fired one, also this is NOT an MP5... the only way to keep the AI accurate while giving recoil to the guns is by adding weapon slots to the game and creating a duplicated version for every weapon and then telling the AI to use one version of the weapon and make niko use the other and then changing niko's weapons to something more realistic. p.s. - did u lower the amount of ammo u can carry with every weapon? reducing it to about 5 magazins each? if u r going to realism u should probably do that. i can also recomand u try MY blooming crosshair MOD. http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=ST&...entry1058882077 it does add recoil BUT it gives the impression of losing accuracy and having it harder to aim. i updated the mod yesterday by a few changes. give it a go. maybe u would want to use some of the ideas i used. Thanks for the suggestions. Would you mind if I released a version of this that was compatible with and/or included your mod? With full credit, of course. As for the mag count, I left it alone for the time being. I wanted to see how people would handle the new rates of fire before I started adjusting maximum ammo. Next version will see AK74 60-round mags, and a limited ammo system. Oh, and nice idea with the AI. Mind if I steal it? Some more V2 changes: -Pistol is now held with two hands. -Increased Micro Uzi rounds/min to 1700 -Made all of the guns more reflective, giving them a blue like finish. -Improved normal maps of all of the guns. (Testing baked in height maps) -Proper weapon and ammo names. (Also has a version with proper car/bike names.) One last thing: Anyone know if it's possible to add more sniper rifle scopes to the game? And if so, can I control the maximum zoom rate? Edited January 23, 2009 by 1/4 Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pac_96 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Nice ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topeira Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Hey , is the V2 released already yet ? It'll be out sometime tomorrow. Toperia, I'll see what I can do with the accuracy. Hopefully I can keep the AI somewhat balanced. Otherwise, there's no real problem with the guns being accurate. The first three shots should always be dead on. not really. recoil is a bitch. i remember my merry military days and controlling an automatic AR is impossible. an MP5 should be easier to handle though i never fired one, also this is NOT an MP5... the only way to keep the AI accurate while giving recoil to the guns is by adding weapon slots to the game and creating a duplicated version for every weapon and then telling the AI to use one version of the weapon and make niko use the other and then changing niko's weapons to something more realistic. p.s. - did u lower the amount of ammo u can carry with every weapon? reducing it to about 5 magazins each? if u r going to realism u should probably do that. i can also recomand u try MY blooming crosshair MOD. http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=ST&...entry1058882077 it does add recoil BUT it gives the impression of losing accuracy and having it harder to aim. i updated the mod yesterday by a few changes. give it a go. maybe u would want to use some of the ideas i used. Thanks for the suggestions. Would you mind if I released a version of this that was compatible with and/or included your mod? With full credit, of course. As for the mag count, I left it alone for the time being. I wanted to see how people would handle the new rates of fire before I started adjusting maximum ammo. Next version will see AK74 60-round mags, and a limited ammo system. Oh, and nice idea with the AI. Mind if I steal it? Some more V2 changes: -Pistol is now held with two hands. -Increased Micro Uzi rounds/min to 1700 -Made all of the guns more reflective, giving them a blue like finish. -Improved normal maps of all of the guns. (Testing baked in height maps) -Proper weapon and ammo names. (Also has a version with proper car/bike names.) One last thing: Anyone know if it's possible to add more sniper rifle scopes to the game? And if so, can I control the maximum zoom rate? what AI idea? the thing about having a duplicated version of the guns - one for AI and one for player? not only that i want to to steal it but i INSIST that u do! if u can pull this off than u r more than wellcomed. only request is that if u manage to do it yourself or find someone how can do it than make it so the weapons are editable so ppl can make the AI more accurate, less accurate, more lethal and so on. in my wet dreams i want the AI to be as accurate as possible (accuracy on 0.0) and have guns that cause more damage (about 150% of how t is now) while the player will have lower accuracy and normal weapons damage. just to make things harder. ---- also if u want to take my crosshair's look and behavior than go ahead just state my name somewhere and praise the size of my genitalia in some form. i dont mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loczek47 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Man...we are waiting for V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS3 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) I'm not at home so I can't check your mod out right now, but I was working on something similar. I found that the best way to be certain that the RPM setting for the auto's are correct is to go on YouTube and rip some audio of each of the actual guns firing. Then, if you have a full duplex sound card, record audio of GTA's guns firing in full auto. Sync the real weapon sound with GTA's sound in an audio editing program and adjust the RPM until each round is in sync. Edited January 24, 2009 by mikestarkweather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/4 Life Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 -Updated to V2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/4 Life Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) Just checked, this mod will work with the latest patch as it does not replace any of the files the patch changed. Wait for a new version of xliveless or MagicIV. When they come out, this mod will function once again. Edit: File replacement mods can now be used! (Everything but ASI mods.) Edited January 24, 2009 by 1/4 Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/4 Life Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 -Added a Video to the first post. V3 will include: -Custom weapon sounds -More tweaks -Finalized AK-74 texture. -Another style of crosshair. (Also shameless bump.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loczek47 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Can't wait for version 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYERMAGGOT Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 That's a totally awesome mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipe89 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 really nice mod.. but I love ak47 *.* maybe I learn love ak74, ahn? ;9 I will try this mod.. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Nation Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 I like your mod alot, but when I clicked the link to download, it brought me to file fronts home page.. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyDienhoff Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Giving the AK-47 black furniture doesn't make it an AK-74M, and what's this about a 60 round magazine capacity? There is nothing realistic about that. -Pistol is now held with two hands. Niko already holds the pistols with both hands, except when blindfiring, so what exactly has your mod changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Nation Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 what happened to V3?? is it dead?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob.Zombie Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Dusty old topic... yeah yeah... Awesome mod man, but can you reupload it? I can't download it. And how did you change the weapon's RPM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Nation Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Dusty old topic... yeah yeah...Awesome mod man, but can you reupload it? I can't download it. And how did you change the weapon's RPM? under almost all the weapons besides the uzi if I'm correct, there is a section under assests that says rate of fire, there is where you change the ROF http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=393116 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oc student Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Once again a black AK 47 doesn't = a AK 74.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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