Omnia sunt Communia Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Modeling is just a glamourous form of prostitution. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Tony Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I don't agree, since prostitution is the act of engaging in sexual activity in exchange for money and goods while in modeling there is absolutely no sex involved at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnia sunt Communia Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 However if you limit both modeling and prostitution to their most basic forms, both are simply selling the human body for profit. In modeling it is via selling pictures of your body and in prostitution you are selling your physical body. I'm not sure I agree with this 100% person, it's just a thought I had while discussing it with a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tequeli Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I wouldn't really give a sh*t if it were since prostitution should be legal. Modeling is a pretty degrading thing as a whole, but don't find a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unvirginiser Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Pornography isn't prostitution, the actors (or athletes if we want to go down that debatable road), are not being paid by their co-star for sex. They are being paid because it's entertainment, in the same way as a normal actor. The only difference being that this entertainment is for sexual relief, not boredom relief. Models are different, they are selling their bodies, yes. But not for sexual satisfaction to a stranger, they are selling it mainly to help advertise a product or business. The use of the body for glamour and sexual use of the body for satisfaction are too very different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 ...so appearing in a catalogue wearing a t-shirt is the same as getting f*cked for money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unvirginiser Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 ...so appearing in a catalogue wearing a t-shirt is the same as getting f*cked for money? Don't wanna' sound like an hard on Jack, but if you don't agree with the statement yourself, then there won't be much of a debate here. If everybody disagrees then there won't be an argument against the general opinion. Selling your body for glamour and selling it for sex are very different. Here's a debate, do you consider models, porn stars and maybe even prostitutes to be athletes? They have to work to maintain their bodies to compete with others, and stay at their best to be able to do the things they do. Some, who are in to more hardcore stuff have to limit their real life sexcapades so that it doesn't effect their performance of film. So...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 They don't perform athletics (except for maybe the porn stars). I personally think prostitution should be legal, its safer, more profitable and who are we to say how someone else should make a living? I don't think models are the same as prostitutes, they don't have sex. They sell their image, not their bodies. As degrading as it may be they choose to do it and make a decent living too, good for them. Same for legal prostitutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightmare Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Prostitution is the selling of one's body for sexual activities. Modeling is the use of one's body to sell products. Let's say I create awesome chocolates, and sell those chocolates for money. That's like prostitution in the way that I'm selling my chocolates for money. But let's say I use those chocolates to sell my house - like setting up a platter at an open house. I'm now using my chocolates to sell a product. It's not actually an elegant form of selling chocolates, I'm using my chocolates to sell something completely different. Oranges are not a glamorous form of apples. Even if models are used to sell prostitution, does that make it a glamorous form of prostitution? No, you are selling the prostitution with the use of models, therefore modeling is not a 'form' of prostitution and cannot be a glamorous form of it. Thanks -shaDow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uNi Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Some modeling is really close then, specially some called art at deviantart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 If Modeling is a form of prostitution, than so is any other form of employment. I'm not sure whether it's an argument for or against, but the two statements are equivalent. Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxidizer Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Good quote, no substance to it whatsoever. True modeling and, especially, true prostitution are the two biggest opposites you could probably compare to one another. But having said that, and what makes your 'point' interesting, is that on the surface they can be mistaken as similar things. I'm not in the right "mood" to go in-depth with this at the moment, so I'll probably come back to it later. Good discussion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacarla Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Prostitution is the selling of one's body for sexual activities. Modeling is the use of one's body to sell products. Can't explain the term "Modeling" better than that. Prostitution is a disastrous act carried out by woman who have no good deeds in life or might have deeds but just dodge them. Having sex with multiple number of men just fulfill their(men) pleasure is as good as killing themselves. "Modeling" on the other hand, is a perfect way to make hard and fast cash. It may be in respect of selling products, entering films, hogging the limelight. Definition of modeling: Modeling is distinguished from other types of public performance, such as an acting, dancing or mime artistry, although the boundary is not well defined. Appearing in a movie or a play is generally not considered to be modeling, regardless of the nature of the role. However, models generally have to express emotion in their photographs, and many models have also described themselves as actors. Types of models include glamour, fashion, fitness, bikini, fine-art, and body-part models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxidizer Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Prostituation is a great deal more expansive than just that; there's different forms, different personal reasons for engaging in it. Whereas models are, to be blunt, just marketing tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Struff Bunstridge Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Prostitution is a disastrous act carried out by woman who have no good deeds in life or might have deeds but just dodge them. Having sex with multiple number of men just fulfill their(men) pleasure is as good as killing themselves. "Modeling" on the other hand, is a perfect way to make hard and fast cash. It may be in respect of selling products, entering films, hogging the limelight. I think it's pretty clear from this quote that you have little to no experience in either field. Describing prositution as "disastrous" is knee-jerk at best, and simply uninformed at worst. Not for nothing is it called the oldest profession, and considering high-class prostitutes can often command thousands for a single evening of their time demonstrates how not disastrous it can be. Sure, it's incredibly dangerous and very sad for a lot of prostitutes, but I think that's more the social stigma it carries in many Western countries than an indictment of the job itself. I very much doubt it be nearly as risky or degrading if it were legalised, institutionalised, and protected. As far as modelling in concerned, it's very rare that models make good money. The curve of earnings is very shallow initially, and a catalogue model will rarely earn a good wage. It's anything but fast, and models are under enormous pressure at all times to maintain an appearance required by their agency, which is usually unhealthily underweight, amongst other things. It's why a lot of models turn to coke and cigarettes; both are a form of appetite suppressant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxidizer Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Obviously I ain't tried to be a female model , so I wouldn't know whether that's the same or not, but male models have to be a healthy slim (assuming you're not trying to be one of the muscular types that do men's underwear shoots). Pretty much every agency I've come across have made it a point, especially in the last two years or so, that it's a definite requirement that you need to eat ealthily and work out sensibly at least twice a week and to not overdrink. Drugs will absolutely fudge up your career. They want your body to be as healthy and looking as good as possible not only for your own sake but for the business too, which I don't think some agencies get as much credit for as they're due in that respect. The majority of models are naturally skinny anyway, and that's why they're chosen to do the job they do, as you can tell by looking at some of them that they have a... unique look about them but aren't necessarily good-looking in the conventional sense (i.e. facially unattractive ). But that's as far as my expertise in that industry goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacarla Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I think it's pretty clear from this quote that you have little to no experience in either field. Yes, i am inexperienced in both fields, Struff. Now, i agree to your point saying that prostitution is an oldest form of profession but what do you mean by saying "high-class" prostitutes. Do they even deserve that? I'm being honest and speaking from the values that have been taught to me, and the way i have perceived things especially, the meaning of prostitution. Obviously, they do earn huge bills when they spend time with their customers and that's the truth. Now, will you not pay if you have sex with a prostitute? That's the point i consider when i see that prostitutes are paid heavily. They just "fulfill" the desires of other people and earn hard cash. They're not doing anything great for their country or even for their family.. Modeling is tough, as you have to be under control in terms of your diet and activities. You have shed the "freedom" tag as you cannot always enjoy the benefits that another human being enjoys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxidizer Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 They're not doing anything great for their country or even for their family.. You do know there are on-site prostitutes at some military camps, right? I'm not exactly sure of the mechanics of it, but surely that would make those prostitutes be doing something for their country, as they'd be servicing their country's soldiers. But on a more serious note, some prostitutes may very well be doing their job for their family. They could be earning money through those means to keep a roof over their child's head or something similar. As I said, there is a hell of a lot more to prostitution than just walking the streets after dark and getting paid by strangers for a quick shag in a car or alley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Struff Bunstridge Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 They're not doing anything great for their country or even for their family.. Oh, I don't know. Earning good money is very beneficial to one's family. And in terms of doing something for your country, I don't really do much to directly benefit my country, and nor do most people outside the military or civil service, depending on what context you meant it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxidizer Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Plus, not all prostitutes and models are female. That's important to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seachmall Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) Now, i agree to your point saying that prostitution is an oldest form of profession but what do you mean by saying "high-class" prostitutes. Do they even deserve that? Why wouldn't they deserve that? They make good money, have big clients ( ) and work in generally safer areas. Its high-class by comparisson. They just "fulfill" the desires of other people and earn hard cash. They're not doing anything great for their country or even for their family.Just like R*, Microsoft, MacDonalds, KFC, Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon etc. are fulfilling desires but not doing anything great for their country.Modeling is tough,Have you ever tried to orgasm 6 times a day?as you have to be under control in terms of your diet and activities. You have shed the "freedom" tag as you cannot always enjoy the benefits that another human being enjoys.So that makes models above prostitutes? You have to work harder to be a long-distance runner than to be a police officer, that doesn't mean I rate athletes above police officers. I'll say it again Models sell their image, not their body. They're not comparable careers. Also, Prostitution is a disastrous act carried out by woman who have no good deeds in life or might have deeds but just dodge them. Having sex with multiple number of men just fulfill their(men) pleasure is as good as killing themselves.Oh you can taste the ignorance. Edited January 26, 2009 by Seachmall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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