Can you do it...?

[flicko]

Apologies to all for responding late to this topic, I've had a busy schedule over the weekend and just didn't have the time to get on here. Everything is updated to this point though, thanks to all for their continued contributions to this.

[DiscoverProject]

Challenge Accepted

 

How long can you survive with a five star (minimum) wanted level with three Grove Street members with you, without them dying?

 

I walked out of Cj's house, recruited 3 grove ogs, started killing everyone, obtained 3 starts. Now I'm near Denise's house, still killing in sight. Shot down the helicopter, (I was on top of Denise's house) got 4 starts. Blew up 3 cop cars, (front of house) swat guys came in with there enforcers, (left and right) by the nick of time I got 5 stars and the FBI came in and killed one on my guys then killed me! It took a long time for the FBI to arrive. Killed alot of cops during the process, some of my groves got shot and I was getting nervous. (Manage to kill one FBI) This was 5 minutes 43 seconds. Using time watch on PC.

 

I used this method.

 

L2-R2 trick. Lock onto a target, use L2-R2 buttons to quickly move along targets. If its a crowded area, use this trick to swiftly shot one by one. Fast and easy and saves seconds.

 

New Challenge: Mower Chase

With 5 stars, with only using a Mower, how long can you survive with full hp, traveling from Los Santos to San Fierro only using roads.

Edited March 20, 2009 by DiscoverProject

[balatro]

Hmmm...this is a pretty interesting thread. While I think it'd be a tad bit too much to propose people to do the entire Minimal Kill Challenge here, maybe some parts of it could be adapted for "sub-challenges". For example:

 

Challenge: Get through the mission "Black Project" without any kills

 

-- balatro

[flicko]

Thanks for taking the time out to attempt a challenge Discoverproject. I've added your challenge attempt, as well as your proposed challenge into the table. Looking forward to seeing more from you.

 

balatro, sounds good, whatever challenge proposals you have in mind, launch them my way and I'll get right on adding them to the table.

[zmoonchild]

Slightly off topic, but I thought I’d ask if there is anyone who does any challenges in GTA IV.

 

I know that GTA Phreak does, but does anyone else? There’s no topic like this in the GTA IV section, so I thought it’d be better to post it here instead, primarily because it seems that the majority of the GTA IV section is full of children that aren’t really into challenges… plus, it seems that cheating in that section is common place by a lot of people there, which I find really weird.

 

I find that doing missions in locked areas GTA IV (with a 6-Star Wanted Level) is really challenging, anyone else?

[Girish]

I find that doing missions in locked areas GTA IV (with a 6-Star Wanted Level) is really challenging, anyone else?

I tried it only once; didn't last longer than 2 minutes I think. The bike handling is pathetic and the fact that you can get shot even while inside a car makes it all the more difficult to escape. I'm still not very accustomed to the 4 stars in San Andreas, so I'm going to take a long time to get used to wanted levels higher than 3 in IV.

[flicko]

Just in-case you were pondering Zoom, if you, or anybody else wishes to replicate this topic in the IV sub-forum, go ahead and create it. I've got a 'Can you do it..?' topic in the VC sub-forum, as most of you know. And Flesh-n-bone has gone ahead and created a challenge topic in the VCS sub-forum. So one in the IV sub-forum will be more than welcome.

[balatro]

 

balatro, sounds good, whatever challenge proposals you have in mind, launch them my way and I'll get right on adding them to the table.

Really? Well then, I suppose I'll suggest the San Andreas Minimal Kill Challenge as a potential challenge for people here. Basically, it boils down to this: "Start a new game, and without using cheats and certain exploits, plus some restrictions, get 100% completion with the lowest possible number in your 'People You've Wasted' stat." Full details can be found in the link in my sig. I will give fair warning, though: the minimal kill challenge is definitely not right for everyone in terms of personality, so judge yourself carefully before attempting -- I won't be held liable for any nervous breakdowns you may suffer!

 

For a more reasonable challenge:

 

Start a new game, go directly to CJ's house to trigger the 1st mission without making any pickups (so no armor or weapons), then in the mission "Sweet and Kendl" destroy the Ballas' car without using any firearms, thrown weapons, heavy weapons, or melee weapons (including your fists and gifts). Bonus points if you can keep the same restrictions and wipe out the two Ballas in the car at the same time.

 

I'm quite sure it's doable though I haven't tried it out myself personally yet. If I turn out to be wrong, I'll post another message here. Otherwise, assume that it's possible.

 

Cheers,

 

-- balatro

[!!GC!!]

 

For a more reasonable challenge:

 

Start a new game, go directly to CJ's house to trigger the 1st mission without making any pickups (so no armor or weapons), then in the mission "Sweet and Kendl" destroy the Ballas' car without using any firearms, thrown weapons, heavy weapons, or melee weapons (including your fists and gifts). Bonus points if you can keep the same restrictions and wipe out the two Ballas in the car at the same time.

 

I'm quite sure it's doable though I haven't tried it out myself personally yet. If I turn out to be wrong, I'll post another message here. Otherwise, assume that it's possible.

 

Cheers,

 

-- balatro

Done.

Well, i do it nearly everytime i start a new game.

Also, I didn't really kill them, they blew themselves up, and i finished them off.

 

Here's what happened: After going through the skatepark, i jump down onto the freeway, pedal over to the off-ramp then stop and look back. Usually, in my game, the Ballas car will fall down from the road onto the freeway rolling upside down.

It went into flames and the two guys got out and ran away. I just ran them over with my bicycle and continued to Grove St.

Edited March 31, 2009 by !!GameCH33TA!!

[lazy34]

That must be a record time for reporting finishing a challenge. It was even faster than when you finished the challenge I proposed.

[balatro]

Done.

Well, i do it nearly everytime i start a new game.

Also, I didn't really kill them, they blew themselves up, and i finished them off.

 

Here's what happened: After going through the skatepark, i jump down onto the freeway, pedal over to the off-ramp then stop and look back. Usually, in my game, the Ballas car will fall down from the road onto the freeway rolling upside down.

It went into flames and the two guys got out and ran away. I just ran them over with my bicycle and continued to Grove St.

Well, I did expect it to be finished rather quickly, seeing as the challenge dealt with the very first mission in the entire game.

 

Having said that, there is one more restriction that I can't for the life of me figure out how I managed to leave out: You have to destroy the car before Sweet leads it away the first time. I had honestly meant to include this restriction right from the get-go, but somehow blew it.

 

Also, to clarify: bonus points for killing the two Ballas the same time you destroy the car -- in other words, they somehow must be caught up in their car's explosion.

 

So to summarize the challenge:

 

Destroy the Ballas' car in the mission "Sweet and Kendl" without:

1) Any weapons or armour (including gifts or the use of fists)

2) Before Sweet lures them away under the Mulholland intersection

3) Bonus points to those who kill the two Balla occupants of the car the same time they destroy it

 

Even with the additional clarification, I expect !!GameCH33TA!! and others like him to still complete this challenge just as quickly.

 

-- balatro

[lazy34]

I was able to lure them to the water near beginning of the road to the lighthouse at Santa Maria Beach. They drove into the water, the car was "destroyed" and the Ballas drowned with the car.

[!!GC!!]

That must be a record time for reporting finishing a challenge. It was even faster than when you finished the challenge I proposed.

Haha, i was just lucky to have the game going on in the background and had nothing important on, so i just did it.

 

Now, that ^^ will have to be the fastest

Good work, lazy, sounds like a good technique.

[Steve Crook]

I got them once at the Mulholland intersection. I got off the bicycle and stood by the kiosk that's there. They drove round and round, trying to drive into me and to shoot me, but I just kept moving around the kiosk so that I was always on the opposite side of it. They eventually rammed the kiosk and the barrier between parking spots so often that they caught fire and exploded.

 

But it takes a while to do it like that

 

Steve

 

Edit: I just tried it again. Basically, get anywhere above ground level and they'll smash themselves into the walls until they blow up

 

 

Steve

 

Edited April 3, 2009 by Steve Crook

[balatro]

Good work lazy34 and Steve Crook. I admit that I was thinking about a spectacular explosion when I wrote "destroyed", but drowning works just as well.

 

My own method:

 

Ride for a bit until the Ballas catch up to you. Hop off the bike, and jack any nearby car. Let the Ballas set your car on fire -- and in the meantime keep on ramming them to inflict some damage on their car. Once your car is on fire, park next to their car, and hop out. The explosion should take them out. If not, jack another car, rinse and repeat. But be mindful of CJ's health -- try not to get close to the blast zone, though there's barely enough health in CJ to survive one explosion. It also helps of if you have the Temple Drive Grove Street members helping you out -- if you're lucky enough to encounter them and you get the Ballas to fire at you while in close proximity to them, the GSF will help you by opening fire on the Ballas.

 

Now, anyone of you up for the other challenge I proposed?

 

-- balatro

[lazy34]

What would be an acceptable number of kills be for the (dreaded) minimal kill challenge?

[balatro]

What would be an acceptable number of kills be for the (dreaded) minimal kill challenge?

"dreaded"? Depends on the perspective, I suppose.

 

Well, if you take a look at the thread, you can see the current scores, with radicell leading the way at 193. That said, you can probably a score of around 215-220 as "par". Feel free to check out the rest of the minimal kill thread for details, and if you're stuck there's also the link to the minimal kill help thread too.

 

-- balatro

[flicko]

Thanks for all contributions up to this point. It's nice to see recent additions being completed multiple times, and in quick succession as well! Great work everyone.

 

balatro, I've added your minimal kill challenge, but would you mind if I added another minimal kill challenge? Only this one will be for just the storyline of San Andreas. It should get a better response than the 100% one, because it doesn't require much work at all. In all honesty, you're going to be lucky if somebody does actually complete the 100% challenge in this topic (All interest happened in your topic). I've created a minimal kill challenge for the VC-specific 'Can you do it...?', though it's only for the storyline missions. It hasn't received any takers as of yet (I am actually attempting it as we speak though), but that is largely down to the activity that sub-forum produces. When in comparison to this one, you'd expect a better response.

 

Let me know what you think.

[lazy34]

The minimal kill challenge would be easier with just the storyline because we wouldn't have to worry about things like how to kill the criminals in the Vigilante mission. But then again we would be expected to have a lower kill count. What would "par" be for the storyline minimal kill challenge?

 

In normal play-throughs I try to be a nice guy and spare people, but what am I supposed to do when pedestrians throw themselves under my car's tire?

[balatro]

@flicko: Go ahead and add your version of the minimal kill challenge. It's your challenge thread after all, and I really don't have the right to prevent you from setting up any challenge you want to set up. For the sake of the challenge, you might want to clarify what you mean by "Storyline", though -- all missions that involve walking into a red marker to set off? (In which case missions like "Breaking the Bank at Caligua" are mandatory) Only those missions necessary to complete into order to get to the mission "End of the Line"? (In which case missions like "Breaking the Bank at Caligua" are not[/not] necessary.

 

@lazy34: Tough to say...really depends on the definition of "Storyline mission" as stated by flicko. If he goes with the second definition I presented, then I'd say par becomes around 100-120 less, so around 100 kills or so. But this is admittedly subjective.

 

-- balatro

[Blizzard14]

New Challenge Proposition.

 

Can you shoot a person off a bike and get on it without it falling to the ground?

 

 

Quite funny actually, I accidentaly did that without even wanting to.

I tried to do it again, but no luck.

 

^Im up for that challenge. I've been wanting to go to that Topic for some time now, but never had the chance, or I forgot, or something came up.

Probably will start it tomorrow or on the weekend.

Edited April 2, 2009 by Blizzard14

[Blizzard14]

Bump.

 

Ok, I just finished "Cleaning up the Hood" and I think I have 3/4 kills on me. Weakend the Ballas and let Ryder Kill them.

Got a question though, can we do the Ambulance Odd-Job in this challenge to raise your health bar?

[balatro]

 

Bump.

 

Ok, I just finished "Cleaning up the Hood" and I think I have 3/4 kills on me. Weakend the Ballas and let Ryder Kill them.

Got a question though, can we do the Ambulance Odd-Job in this challenge to raise your health bar?

Depends on which version of the challenge you're doing.

 

If you are doing flicko's variation, then no, you don't have to do the Ambulance Odd-Job, since it's not needed in order to complete the Storyline.

 

If you are doing the original version (i.e. the one that I proposed), then yes, you do need to do it since the Ambulance Odd-Job is necessary in order to get 100%.

 

Personally, I'd do it regardless. It's actually not that hard to get zero kills in the Ambulance Odd-Job, and the max health bonus is nice. Even though you can get max health eventually just by running around, doing the minimal kill challenge means (among other things) being shot at more often without retaliating. Under this scenario the early extra boost to health may be useful.

 

On last suggestion: In order to prevent people actually doing the minimal kill challenge from spamming up this topic, you can always post your regular progress to my thread (link in my sig) -- believe me, there will be quite a number of status reports!

 

@flicko: fyi, the best score so far without taking advantage of any of the optional restrictions is 193, achieved by radicell. You can note that down in your table in the first page for people trying to best that score. In theory, I know it's possible to get an even lower score!

 

-- balatro

[Blizzard14]

Yeah, that was my question for flicko's variation, I wanted to know if it is against the rules or not to do the Ambulance missions, seeing as it gives you a boost in health. So, ok, i'll post my progress over there.

[gta007]

u cant do this

 

 

landing a plane in Grove St

 

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1479/gallery103.jpg

 

It can be done if you dont hit the trees.

 

 

by the this was on PC

 

 

[flicko]

 

@flicko: Go ahead and add your version of the minimal kill challenge. It's your challenge thread after all, and I really don't have the right to prevent you from setting up any challenge you want to set up.  For the sake of the challenge, you might want to clarify what you mean by "Storyline", though -- all missions that involve walking into a red marker to set off? (In which case missions like "Breaking the Bank at Caligua" are mandatory) Only those missions necessary to complete into order to get to the mission "End of the Line"? (In which case missions like "Breaking the Bank at Caligua" are not[/not] necessary.

Thanks, I'll be sure to do that. By completing the storyline, I meant that completing the least amount of missions in order to unlock the final mission, so more-so that latter. I've got this challenge ongoing for Vice City, as I've stated, and know exactly what it takes to complete the storyline of the game in the quickest time possible. Hell, I even made a guide about it, here. I'm not going to add radicell's attempt into the table, because he didn't complete the challenge in this topic, and it will also give radicell the opportunity to give this challenge another go if he has the time.

 

Thanks for the challenge Blizzard, sounds tough. I'll add it in right away.

 

In regards to completing Paramedic missions, yes, you can do that if you want. You don't have to limit yourself to only completing the storyline, anything that may help you or be beneficial to you is perfectly fine.

 

gta007, is that a challenge proposal..?

Edited April 4, 2009 by flicko

[radicell]

I'm not going to add radicell's attempt into the table, because he didn't complete the challenge in this topic, and it will also give radicell the opportunity to give this challenge another go if he has the time.

Oh, you wish. Maybe after I finish high school, college, get married, have children, and retire, I'll have worked up enough courage and free time to give the Minimal Kill Challenge another go.

[lazy34]

See? I'm not the only one that thinks "dreaded" when it comes to the Minimal Kill Challenge

[!!GC!!]

See? I'm not the only one that thinks "dreaded" when it comes to the Minimal Kill Challenge

I dont think that 'kill' is the dreaded word here, it is most definitely 'minimal'.

That is why i haven't ever had a go at it. I dont have enough control to stop myself from blowing everyone to bits when i can. I guess im a bit trigger-happy.

[gta007]

@flicko: Go ahead and add your version of the minimal kill challenge. It's your challenge thread after all, and I really don't have the right to prevent you from setting up any challenge you want to set up.  For the sake of the challenge, you might want to clarify what you mean by "Storyline", though -- all missions that involve walking into a red marker to set off? (In which case missions like "Breaking the Bank at Caligua" are mandatory) Only those missions necessary to complete into order to get to the mission "End of the Line"? (In which case missions like "Breaking the Bank at Caligua" are not[/not] necessary.

Thanks, I'll be sure to do that. By completing the storyline, I meant that completing the least amount of missions in order to unlock the final mission, so more-so that latter. I've got this challenge ongoing for Vice City, as I've stated, and know exactly what it takes to complete the storyline of the game in the quickest time possible. Hell, I even made a guide about it, here. I'm not going to add radicell's attempt into the table, because he didn't complete the challenge in this topic, and it will also give radicell the opportunity to give this challenge another go if he has the time.

 

Thanks for the challenge Blizzard, sounds tough. I'll add it in right away.

 

In regards to completing Paramedic missions, yes, you can do that if you want. You don't have to limit yourself to only completing the storyline, anything that may help you or be beneficial to you is perfectly fine.

 

gta007, is that a challenge proposal..?

yes