ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 This doesn't prove anything, but what Rockstar Toronto said does. If he really believes he can recreate all the problems by building all of our machines and tell us just that in the forums... well I'm sorry to say guys but they don't know why their own game is f*cked. You can't program like that, it will take a VERY long time to get a patch. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and you are a detriment to this community in almost every smart ass post you make. Go back to your desk in EA HQ. Yes I am very stupid. If you can't comprend what I said, you should go back to your desk. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Just got off the phone guys with the lead programmer thats been working on the patch. Nearlly ALL issues are fixed with sli support and they have implemented AA which is great news. Multiplayer dedicated server support with Punkbuster!!!! finally!. Game has been optimized to run on min spec pcs with 20-30 fps boost depending on your hardware. Cant wait till feb! Patch weighs in around 178mb Punkbuster would make this game worse. Punkbuster like kicks randomly and everytime you go into a server you have to turn your mods off / make your files legit. and that sounds like bs lol It is no doubt punkbuster will make the game worse, and people still cheat around punkbuster. They just crack punkbuster. Give us real server support and we will just ban the cheaters. Simple as that, if you play ranked, well sorry boys, but ranked has cheaters everywhere. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremist5150 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Listen to all of you Nostradamus wannabes: THE PATCH IS COMING, NO THE PATCH ISN'T COMING. None of you have a (#$(#$& clue, and you know it.` Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watinho Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 ... 1.0.2.0 is on the way... They would not typo the version number... Well, actually, I've seen companies do mis-types on version and/or patch numbers all the time. I work in quality assurance for various such companies and this is one of the main things I catch as part of release notes. But ... that said ... according to what I posted, that support site says 1.0.2.0 is already here. I agree that it might not be a typo since, as I said, the support ticket has a date of 01/18/2009 -- just a couple of days ago. But that same ticket says that 1.0.2.0 can be downloaded now. And the issue that the ticket is bringing up is one that came about after the first patch. Again: the support ticket says: "This issue is fixed in Title Update 1.0.2.0, so please make sure to download and install this update, either via the LIVE service, or by following th following link:" (Again, I added the bold.) That's clearly telling people to go to that link and download 1.0.2.0 right now. Technically Rockstar probably feels they don't have to announce every small patch because if users are using the Live service, they'll get these updates automatically. Or maybe they did announce this somewhere and I just missed it. Or maybe whomever wrote the response to the support ticket had no clue what they were talking about. I don't know -- I can only go on what I read. So the question is - where can I download the second patch?? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 This doesn't prove anything, but what Rockstar Toronto said does. If he really believes he can recreate all the problems by building all of our machines and tell us just that in the forums... well I'm sorry to say guys but they don't know why their own game is f*cked. You can't program like that, it will take a VERY long time to get a patch. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and you are a detriment to this community in almost every smart ass post you make. Go back to your desk in EA HQ. Yes I am very stupid. If you can't comprend what I said, you should go back to your desk. If you really think they are not recreating machines, you are a f*cking fool dude. Do you not realize that that is how they do this? You act like (in other posts all around the forum about the same bullsh*t, slandering Rockstar and making sh*t up...) Rockstar is saying this as if it's something new to the industry and thus unbelievable. Reality check: THATS how software makers track and fix bugs and have done that exact thing for years. Have you still not discovered the EDIT button or are you purposefully increasing post count like some contest? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvr2fst Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 And to quote someone I forgot, make peace not war. I think that was George W Bush? Oh no, his was other way round. He is finaly gone!!!! Had to throw that in. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremist5150 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 This doesn't prove anything, but what Rockstar Toronto said does. If he really believes he can recreate all the problems by building all of our machines and tell us just that in the forums... well I'm sorry to say guys but they don't know why their own game is f*cked. You can't program like that, it will take a VERY long time to get a patch. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and you are a detriment to this community in almost every smart ass post you make. Go back to your desk in EA HQ. Yes I am very stupid. If you can't comprend what I said, you should go back to your desk. If you really think they are not recreating machines, you are a f*cking fool dude. Do you not realize that that is how they do this? You act like (in other posts all around the forum about the same bullsh*t, slandering Rockstar and making sh*t up...) Rockstar is saying this as if it's something new to the industry and thus unbelievable. Reality check: THATS how software makers track and fix bugs and have done that exact thing for years. Have you still not discovered the EDIT button or are you purposefully increasing post count like some contest? This guy knows what he's talking about. It's exactly how they troubleshoot/test bugs. What, do you think they just work off of a Dell or something? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 DUH you idiots it is how they get them, but there is WAY too many machines with the problems. You can't go off programming like that. LIKE I SAID IT WILL TAKE A LONG TIME. DUH! Geez it's like a bunch of dumbasses. NO DUH! DUH! If I had to make a list of how many machines they have to recreate, ROCKSTAR won't get there anytime this month or next month. Jeez, it's like I have to read to a bunch of kids that are screaming ROCKSTAR! Your our savior. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Nyman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 ... 1.0.2.0 is on the way... They would not typo the version number... Well, actually, I've seen companies do mis-types on version and/or patch numbers all the time. I work in quality assurance for various such companies and this is one of the main things I catch as part of release notes. But ... that said ... according to what I posted, that support site says 1.0.2.0 is already here. I agree that it might not be a typo since, as I said, the support ticket has a date of 01/18/2009 -- just a couple of days ago. But that same ticket says that 1.0.2.0 can be downloaded now. And the issue that the ticket is bringing up is one that came about after the first patch. Again: the support ticket says: "This issue is fixed in Title Update 1.0.2.0, so please make sure to download and install this update, either via the LIVE service, or by following th following link:" (Again, I added the bold.) That's clearly telling people to go to that link and download 1.0.2.0 right now. Technically Rockstar probably feels they don't have to announce every small patch because if users are using the Live service, they'll get these updates automatically. Or maybe they did announce this somewhere and I just missed it. Or maybe whomever wrote the response to the support ticket had no clue what they were talking about. I don't know -- I can only go on what I read. So the question is - where can I download the second patch?? Well, in the "maybe Rockstar typoed" and/or "maybe Rockstar is clueless" category, that same support ticket (which indicates 1.0.2.0 is ready) points to this link: http://www.rockstargames.com/support/IV/PC/patch/index.html But if you go there, it sure looks to me like the file indicated is the same as the original patch file. The GTAIV_Patch.exe is dated as 12/12/2008. So either Rockstar quoted their own patch number wrong, the patch is not where they said it was, or the person who updated the ticket simply didn't respond accurately. (Given how I've seen Rockstar operate lately it's a bit of a toss-up.) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) DUH you idiots it is how they get them, but there is WAY too many machines with the problems. You can't go off programming like that. LIKE I SAID IT WILL TAKE A LONG TIME. DUH! Geez it's like a bunch of dumbasses. NO DUH! DUH! If I had to make a list of how many machines they have to recreate, ROCKSTAR won't get there anytime this month or next month. Jeez, it's like I have to read to a bunch of kids that are screaming ROCKSTAR! Your our savior. They don't have to recreate that many machines - most of the problems are on the user's end... I know you are in heavy denial about that, so, you can use your next post to talk about something else, because I already know your flawed point. The explanation - and ONLY valid explanation - for the SAME systems behaving differently is user error or operator issues. Deny it til you have a heart attack, we don't care. We're here to HELP each other, Not bash Rockstar... Edited January 20, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremist5150 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 DUH you idiots it is how they get them, but there is WAY too many machines with the problems. You can't go off programming like that. LIKE I SAID IT WILL TAKE A LONG TIME. DUH! Geez it's like a bunch of dumbasses. NO DUH! DUH! If I had to make a list of how many machines they have to recreate, ROCKSTAR won't get there anytime this month or next month. Jeez, it's like I have to read to a bunch of kids that are screaming ROCKSTAR! Your our savior. They don't have to recreate that many machines - most of the problems are on the user's end... I know you are in heavy denial about that, so, you can use your next post to talk about something else, because I already know your flawed point. The explanation - and ONLY valid explanation - for the SAME systems behaving differently is user error or operator issues. Deny it til you have a heart attack, we don't care. From the Associated Press: GTAFORUM USER GETS HEART ATTACK ON CUE: RATIONAL POST TO BLAME Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 DUH you idiots it is how they get them, but there is WAY too many machines with the problems. You can't go off programming like that. LIKE I SAID IT WILL TAKE A LONG TIME. DUH! Geez it's like a bunch of dumbasses. NO DUH! DUH! If I had to make a list of how many machines they have to recreate, ROCKSTAR won't get there anytime this month or next month. Jeez, it's like I have to read to a bunch of kids that are screaming ROCKSTAR! Your our savior. They don't have to recreate that many machines - most of the problems are on the user's end... I know you are in heavy denial about that, so, you can use your next post to talk about something else, because I already know your flawed point. If I am in complete denial, your just the same. Chngdman you know many techs I have called before? The most common thing they say is "We are recreating the problem". I get a e-mail -> we are sorry we COULD NOT recreate the problem. Yes return the product. YES YES! I would love to say Rockstar will fix everything, but they can't even create their first patch WITHOUT CAUSING MORE PROBLEMS. So I am in denial? YES YES! That must mean I am. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) Patch didn't cause me any problems. It caused some people problems, and it's down to their software environment, not this game. Yes, maybe rockstar should have made more compatibility test - or - gasp, maybe they shouldn't have shortcut'd their work with f*cking frameworks or became dependent on them through using other people's technologies, but then, you'd had waited a lot longer to play, too. To be completely honest with you, I feel bad for you at this point and I'm rooting for you to be right at least on some level. I would hate to see all of your 'effort' go to the waste it is shaping up to being... Edited January 20, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacMaan Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 ROCKSTAR PLZ FIX THE GTA4 KTHXBYE Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Patch didn't cause me any problems. It caused some people problems, and it's down to their software environment, not this game. Yes, maybe rockstar should have made more compatibility test - or - gasp, maybe they shouldn't have shortcut'd their work with f*cking frameworks or became dependent on them through using other people's technologies, but then, you'd had waited a lot longer to play, too. To be completely honest with you, I feel bad for you at this point and I'm rooting for you to be right at least on some level. I would hate to see all of your 'effort' go to the waste it is shaping up to being... Why deny? You said no problems, but you even saw the controller bug, I saw you say it in another thread. I'm not in as much denial as you are. Perfectly FINE! Sure feel sorry for me. If I could just get my refund I would be the f*ck out of here. No point for me to be here and say "ROCKSTAR GET YOUR sh*t TOGETHER". But yes I used to be a diehard fan and say GTA 4 will be game of the year. They made me look like an idiot when it came to PC and it can't play perfectly fine! I have to start telling people to buy Left 4 Dead now. Because it's a perfect example of how a game should work. Yes feel sorry for me. Because I wouldn't be here if Rockstar DIDN'T PULL THIS sh*t ON ME AND A LOT OF OTHERS. So DAMN ME if you want. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Patch didn't cause me any problems. It caused some people problems, and it's down to their software environment, not this game. Yes, maybe rockstar should have made more compatibility test - or - gasp, maybe they shouldn't have shortcut'd their work with f*cking frameworks or became dependent on them through using other people's technologies, but then, you'd had waited a lot longer to play, too. To be completely honest with you, I feel bad for you at this point and I'm rooting for you to be right at least on some level. I would hate to see all of your 'effort' go to the waste it is shaping up to being... Why deny? You said no problems, but you even saw the controller bug, I saw you say it in another thread. I'm not in as much denial as you are. Perfectly FINE! Sure feel sorry for me. If I could just get my refund I would be the f*ck out of here. No point for me to be here and say "ROCKSTAR GET YOUR sh*t TOGETHER". But yes I used to be a diehard fan and say GTA 4 will be game of the year. They made me look like an idiot when it came to PC and it can't play perfectly fine! I have to start telling people to buy Left 4 Dead now. Because it's a perfect example of how a game should work. Yes feel sorry for me. Because I wouldn't be here if Rockstar DIDN'T PULL THIS sh*t ON ME AND A LOT OF OTHERS. So DAMN ME if you want. And now you're not. This is the wrong place to look for a refund. This isn't even a Rockstar forum. That's all you're here for? Your post ADMITS you are here ONLY to start sh*t against Rockstar because you can't get a refund. THIS IS NOT A ROCKSTAR FORUM NOR IS IT OFFICIAL IN ANY WAY. Left 4 Dead? You expected anything else from an OLD ass engine like source doing NOTHING but tracking at the max 4 players and instancing a bunch of Zombies in a old school BSP environment? Dude, you are a f*cking TROLL. Rockstar didn't pull sh*t on you at all, and this is not the place for your fa**otry in consumer angst - go cry to wal mart's help desk. WTF. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowpope17 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 ROCKSTAR PLZ FIX THE GTA4 KTHXBYE Say what again, say what again, i dare you, i double dare you motherf*cker say what one more god dam time Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 If I could just get my refund I would be the f*ck out of here. This is a fansite. You will only get a refund from the store you purchased the product from, and only then depending on their return policy. Still, it seems you've made no effort to actually try to get a refund via ourselves, and as a result it's quite obvious you're here to troll. If you're unhappy, I hope you kept the box in a good condition and still have the receipt. Go get your refund. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 So you think I haven't tried? Phff, you guys do want me damned. Yes I am an idiot in everyway and I troll everywhere. Sure, I love the posts. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 We don't care if you tried. And I doubt anyone wants you damned. We just want you to stop falsifying sh*t in the name of your selfish cause. THIS is not the place. And now that we see why you're really here, we all know how bitterly full of bullsh*t you are. You are INCREDIBLY immature to be lashing out on a f*cking forum FULL TIME because you "got screwed" by your RETAILER, NOT rockstar. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 We don't care if you tried. And I doubt anyone wants you damned. We just want you to stop falsifying sh*t in the name of your selfish cause. THIS is not the place. And now that we see why you're really here, we all know how bitterly full of bullsh*t you are. You are INCREDIBLY immature to be lashing out on a f*cking forum FULL TIME because you "got screwed" by your RETAILER, NOT rockstar. Yea, keep dreaming. You haven't figured out anything about me. If anyone is falsifying sh*t it is you. Mr. Memory Leak is a myth. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058895992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ortucis Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Thanks for the laugh ZaCkOX. (Sry, just a lurker, not a pro troll myself.. but this thread rocks.) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058896021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 We don't care if you tried. And I doubt anyone wants you damned. We just want you to stop falsifying sh*t in the name of your selfish cause. THIS is not the place. And now that we see why you're really here, we all know how bitterly full of bullsh*t you are. You are INCREDIBLY immature to be lashing out on a f*cking forum FULL TIME because you "got screwed" by your RETAILER, NOT rockstar. Yea, keep dreaming. You haven't figured out anything about me. If anyone is falsifying sh*t it is you. Mr. Memory Leak is a myth. I didn't say it doesn't exist - I said much of it is heat... I've pinpointed you, and you are a retard Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058896026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Terror Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Well the Date created for that support ticket is... Date Created 18/01/2009 07.14 PM That was 2 Days ago.... why would they say 1.0.2.0 2 days ago if the patch is already released. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058896048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 We don't care if you tried. And I doubt anyone wants you damned. We just want you to stop falsifying sh*t in the name of your selfish cause. THIS is not the place. And now that we see why you're really here, we all know how bitterly full of bullsh*t you are. You are INCREDIBLY immature to be lashing out on a f*cking forum FULL TIME because you "got screwed" by your RETAILER, NOT rockstar. Yea, keep dreaming. You haven't figured out anything about me. If anyone is falsifying sh*t it is you. Mr. Memory Leak is a myth. I didn't say it doesn't exist - I said much of it is heat... I've pinpointed you, and you are a retard Sure man, your exact words was a myth. Let's laugh some more together. Much of what is heat? If you mean that is the cause, I will laugh some more. Let's see, I'm a HUGE troll, I will email bomb Rockstars' email users. Great! Do all of us troll rollers look like this? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058896052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The following reason was given for this verbal warning: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Trolling. Related post: Patch 1.0.2.0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I got a private message. Ya I'm sure a lot of fans will be happy with that. Ban me because I am believed as a troll and I'm trolling. Go Head! Let's make everyone happy, delete my posts, ban me. That going to make a real difference? I'm just 1 of many, and if you want to call us all trolls, well your nothing but a f*cken idiot. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058896089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 You're not one of many, you are one of very few that I have seen exhibiting this immaturity. You've even drug myself and others into your mess on occasion. I would not be surprised if that post gets reported and you get banned just for posting it out there so defiantly stating that that's what you want. Either way, I'm sure your constant double posting will be your downfall before your incessant whining. Keep thinking you are part of some special group. The staggering majority is having a great time. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058896105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 You're not one of many, you are one of very few that I have seen exhibiting this immaturity. You've even drug myself and others into your mess on occasion. I would not be surprised if that post gets reported and you get banned just for posting it out there so defiantly stating that that's what you want. Either way, I'm sure your constant double posting will be your downfall before your incessant whining. Keep thinking you are part of some special group. The staggering majority is having a great time. Ha Chngdman, I'll be just like you. Deny everyone has problems. It's all their fault, and if they say otherwise we all are trolls. You want to see me gone too, I don't blame ya, this forum is nothing but full of a lot of complaints. You think you can make them disappear with your strong belief that nothing is wrong with the game. Sure buddy, keep pushing papers. You will NEVER have a degree and be as good as a real tech. Let's see your experience now and for ever in the future. If you can't see it now you won't ever, ever, ever. You won't get any smarter with any response you make when you completely deny everything! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058896125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I don't want you gone - I want you to stop detracting topics into arguments. I don't have a problem with you as a person, and it doesn't matter if I do or don't. You are ruining my experience and I'm a laid back guy. I can only imagine how you come across to the less vocal peers among us. All you do is talk sh*t and then more sh*t when you get corrected or challenged or even simply insulted for your anti-rockstar bullsh*t. Go Away From The Keyboard And Breathe, Idiot. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/393347-patch-1020/page/3/#findComment-1058896136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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