Nomad91 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Hi guys, I was browsing the Tech and PC section and didn't notice a Linux thread, so I want to start one, I am a Linux freak, all of my computers have the latest version of Ubuntu on them. My current computer: Gateway MT3705 Intel Dual Core T2060 @ 1.60Ghz 1GB RAM 100GB hard drive I use this s my media PC for all my movies, music and photos, and it is always with me I first went to Ubuntu in October 2007 after my Windows XP installation took a sh*t and I didn't feel like downloading all the drivers and starting over. So I burnt Ubuntu 7.10 onto a disc and installed it. I was instantly hooked, I didn't need to install any additional driver and Ubuntu basically did everything for me. When my friends need help when they get BSOD or other crippling errors, I always install Ubuntu. It takes them all about a month to figure out all the technical aspect of it but any problems can be solved by the Ubuntu community. Well, feel free to share your stories, questions, and whatever else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold fusion 33 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well, I have used some Linux's in the past, most notably, Pardus and Ubuntu. I liked Ubuntu, it was sleek and looked good, but really, at the end of the day it does all the same things as Windows XP does and it has the draw back of having far less support from manufacturer's in the way of drivers. This meant that I couldn't use my wireless adapter with it and so I had no internet. Pardus was pretty much the same. Sure Linux looks good and probably performs better than Windows, but it isn't really for me. I see it as more of a hobby or a novelty than a full time OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad91 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well, I have used some Linux's in the past, most notably, Pardus and Ubuntu. I liked Ubuntu, it was sleek and looked good, but really, at the end of the day it does all the same things as Windows XP does and it has the draw back of having far less support from manufacturer's in the way of drivers. This meant that I couldn't use my wireless adapter with it and so I had no internet.Pardus was pretty much the same. Sure Linux looks good and probably performs better than Windows, but it isn't really for me. I see it as more of a hobby or a novelty than a full time OS. Yea, I dual-boot it with Windows XP on my Quad Core rig when I want to play DirectX games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmachine Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Now that I've given up on installing Damn Small Linux on a notebook just using a floppy (because that is the only thing it has), I thought of sparing 5GB of my PC's hard drive space to install Ubuntu on to. I also had 'found' a book with many, many, many useful commands. That will be really useful for me, because: 1) I know exactly nil about using the Shell (no idea, if that was it) 2) I probably will need to know this stuff in University anyway, so why not start now. Actually, I'll do that in... tomorrow. EDIT: Is it possible to triple-boot it with XP and Windows 7? We will be the arms that lift you up We will be the hand that strike you down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad91 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Now that I've given up on installing Damn Small Linux on a notebook just using a floppy (because that is the only thing it has), I thought of sparing 5GB of my PC's hard drive space to install Ubuntu on to. I also had 'found' a book with many, many, many useful commands. That will be really useful for me, because:1) I know exactly nil about using the Shell (no idea, if that was it) 2) I probably will need to know this stuff in University anyway, so why not start now. Actually, I'll do that in... tomorrow. Is the book online? Can you provide info on how to get it? BTW, I Quad boot on my Media Desktop: Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7, and Ubuntu. Install all the Windows first, then install Ubuntu, it has the best OS boot selector, so I don't see how Triple boot would be a problem. EDIT: BBL dentists Edited January 19, 2009 by Nomad91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmachine Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Why? I'm not going to install Ubuntu on it. Here you are anyway: http://www.ciao.co.uk/HP_OmniBook_2000CT__6524499 We will be the arms that lift you up We will be the hand that strike you down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordjubblydave Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Awesome, nomad you might actually be able to help me. I just installed yellow dog on my ps3 but i cant for the life of me figure out how to install any programs on it? I have looked around the linux forums and followed instructions but still no joy (i must need a nigh on idiot proof tutorial). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad91 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Awesome, nomad you might actually be able to help me. I just installed yellow dog on my ps3 but i cant for the life of me figure out how to install any programs on it? I have looked around the linux forums and followed instructions but still no joy (i must need a nigh on idiot proof tutorial). Here is some help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/li...es-help-683822/ http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-...S3-100880.shtml I'm not really fmiliar with YD, so I can't really help, but will try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixdust Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I use Back Track 3 Final, which is a modified distribution based on Slackware. It is very useful for pentesting, and network analysis. It even has software to crack WEP or brute force WPA(2). For anyone who is interested in this sort of stuff, here ya go: Link I always answer this question but nobody ever seems to give a follow up on it. I guess nobody really cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordjubblydave Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Thanks Nomad i got what seems to be a pretty straight forward tutorial from your links Its all the terminal stuff that stumps me. (i guess ill get there though). Will let you know tomorrow if i have any joy. Just out of interest what would be the most simple version of linux for a mac user is there one where you can install stuff without messing about in terminal ??? Edited January 19, 2009 by lordjubblydave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Ubuntu is the best one for beginners. Even idiots like me can figure it out. I use Ubuntu 8.10 on the laptop, no need for games. Just hoping 9.04 will support my new one without too much messing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I use Back Track 3 Final, which is a modified distribution based on Slackware. It is very useful for pentesting, and network analysis. It even has software to crack WEP or brute force WPA(2). For anyone who is interested in this sort of stuff, here ya go: Link I always answer this question but nobody ever seems to give a follow up on it. I guess nobody really cares. I never realized it was based on Slackware before. Nice distribution though, even without all the testing tools, it's got a lot of applications that come with it that you won't find on other LiveCDs right off. It's also really fun in Seattle where there's a ton of hotspots all over. You can use the "ezPwn" tool to run an automated WEP crack. I was going down I90 at 60 MPH cracking WEP keys and then losing connectivity before I could even get onto the networks. Anyway, I've been a big fan of Ubuntu until 8.10 came out. I don't like GNOME or KDE4, especially since KDE4 cannot support dual-head mode, so instead of using two x screens I had to use TwinView--and it sucks. Video tearing that is just not fixable; I must have tried a thousand different things before I just gave up and went back to 8.04 and just compiled my own kernel. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad91 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 Yea Ubuntu is good, the terminal sh*t you can google, but you can install stuff by going to Applications, then Add/Remove, and you can find whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixdust Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) I use Back Track 3 Final, which is a modified distribution based on Slackware. It is very useful for pentesting, and network analysis. It even has software to crack WEP or brute force WPA(2). For anyone who is interested in this sort of stuff, here ya go: Link I always answer this question but nobody ever seems to give a follow up on it. I guess nobody really cares. I never realized it was based on Slackware before. Nice distribution though, even without all the testing tools, it's got a lot of applications that come with it that you won't find on other LiveCDs right off. It's also really fun in Seattle where there's a ton of hotspots all over. You can use the "ezPwn" tool to run an automated WEP crack. I was going down I90 at 60 MPH cracking WEP keys and then losing connectivity before I could even get onto the networks. Anyway, I've been a big fan of Ubuntu until 8.10 came out. I don't like GNOME or KDE4, especially since KDE4 cannot support dual-head mode, so instead of using two x screens I had to use TwinView--and it sucks. Video tearing that is just not fixable; I must have tried a thousand different things before I just gave up and went back to 8.04 and just compiled my own kernel. Curiosity is nibbling at my feet. I am wondering what sort of antenna/chip you are using or whether you are relying on good ol' built in. I myself am using the Alfa 500mw USB adapter (strongest adapter out there) with a 5 dbi clip on antenna located here. The 2dbi antenna is stronger than the included wifi card in my laptop, but it sucks in comparison to the 5dbi one. Plus the Alfa is a Realtek chipset, thus it is compatible with all platforms ranging from Linux to Mac OS X to Windows. When I have some time and a little spare cash I am going to get this antenna. Check this out if you are interested in what I have been saying thus far. This shows off the strength of the adapter, at how many wifi hotspots you can pick up. I did a walk around my mates home, he lives in a 2 floor garden apartment. There were 6 connections detected with the built in card. Then I tryed the Alfa with the mini antenna, 22 connections detected. Then I strapped on the 5 dbi, and I swear, I picked up 55 wifi connections in total, including my mates, who lived down the street, and since I had his password, I was able to surf from like 1/8 mile away at least. The best part, everyone in those garden apartments has Fios, and all Fios Routers are Wifi equipped with a WEP password attached. Its a goldmine man. What is even better is that the new Fios routers, which two of my friends have received have a new scheme for the WEP password. Say the Mac address is 00:11:22:33:44:55 Well the WEP password to that router is 1122334455 Notice the trend? Drop the first two zeros, and you are a go go go. I even tested my theory on my second friends router. I asked him for his new SSID and I scanned for it, and got in with just a guess. Best part is, the connection is 20Mbps down and 5-10Mbps Up. As for wardriving, haven't done it yet, mostly because I am lazy, but I imagine that you aren't accomplishing much at 60mph. As for automated tools, I use the Aircrack-ng suite, manually type in the commands with 4 consoles open at once. NOTE: Please do this responsibly, I do not want to see a thread about Grand Theft Internetz, and why you fail at it. Google can answer most of your questions. Edited January 20, 2009 by Sixdust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picolini Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Tried out Ubuntu before... it was fun while it lasted but I don't have enough time or desire to learn all the methods of using it and stuff. I might try it again if I find some free time though. But the next OS I think I'll try out is OS X, figure I'll give it a go since I bash Mac so much. Maybe I'll find some nice things about it... or reinforce my reasons for disliking Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I use Back Track 3 Final, which is a modified distribution based on Slackware. It is very useful for pentesting, and network analysis. It even has software to crack WEP or brute force WPA(2). For anyone who is interested in this sort of stuff, here ya go: Link I always answer this question but nobody ever seems to give a follow up on it. I guess nobody really cares. I never realized it was based on Slackware before. Nice distribution though, even without all the testing tools, it's got a lot of applications that come with it that you won't find on other LiveCDs right off. It's also really fun in Seattle where there's a ton of hotspots all over. You can use the "ezPwn" tool to run an automated WEP crack. I was going down I90 at 60 MPH cracking WEP keys and then losing connectivity before I could even get onto the networks. Anyway, I've been a big fan of Ubuntu until 8.10 came out. I don't like GNOME or KDE4, especially since KDE4 cannot support dual-head mode, so instead of using two x screens I had to use TwinView--and it sucks. Video tearing that is just not fixable; I must have tried a thousand different things before I just gave up and went back to 8.04 and just compiled my own kernel. Curiosity is nibbling at my feet. I am wondering what sort of antenna/chip you are using or whether you are relying on good ol' built in. I myself am using the Alfa 500mw USB adapter (strongest adapter out there) with a 5 dbi clip on antenna located here. The 2dbi antenna is stronger than the included wifi card in my laptop, but it sucks in comparison to the 5dbi one. Plus the Alfa is a Realtek chipset, thus it is compatible with all platforms ranging from Linux to Mac OS X to Windows. When I have some time and a little spare cash I am going to get this antenna. Check this out if you are interested in what I have been saying thus far. This shows off the strength of the adapter, at how many wifi hotspots you can pick up. I did a walk around my mates home, he lives in a 2 floor garden apartment. There were 6 connections detected with the built in card. Then I tryed the Alfa with the mini antenna, 22 connections detected. Then I strapped on the 5 dbi, and I swear, I picked up 55 wifi connections in total, including my mates, who lived down the street, and since I had his password, I was able to surf from like 1/8 mile away at least. The best part, everyone in those garden apartments has Fios, and all Fios Routers are Wifi equipped with a WEP password attached. Its a goldmine man. What is even better is that the new Fios routers, which two of my friends have received have a new scheme for the WEP password. Say the Mac address is 00:11:22:33:44:55 Well the WEP password to that router is 1122334455 Notice the trend? Drop the first two zeros, and you are a go go go. I even tested my theory on my second friends router. I asked him for his new SSID and I scanned for it, and got in with just a guess. Best part is, the connection is 20Mbps down and 5-10Mbps Up. As for wardriving, haven't done it yet, mostly because I am lazy, but I imagine that you aren't accomplishing much at 60mph. As for automated tools, I use the Aircrack-ng suite, manually type in the commands with 4 consoles open at once. NOTE: Please do this responsibly, I do not want to see a thread about Grand Theft Internetz, and why you fail at it. Google can answer most of your questions. Yeah, this one was just the built-in, but I was in an area just saturated with connections. Most of them were probably corporate though, because they had some weird WPA encryption schemes; then there were a few WPA/PSK ones, and just a ton of WEP, and most of the area we went through didn't have all that many houses. I like Aircrack, but the little ezPwn tool is actually surprisingly good at doing it automatically. When trying to crack a WEP connection, while traveling away from it at 60 MPH, typing out the commands for aircrack is impossible. That was just for kicks though, when I was actually there in the neighborhood, I gathered a few keys with Aircrack. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingvercetti Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I have Ubuntu 8.10 x64 on a dual-boot, and I usually use it when I don't plan on doing anything that would require Windows, mainly because it's snappy and does it's job nicely. Hell, after a couple of tries, even compiling and installing from source code isn't exactly trying, and usually has instructions anyway. I hope it gets more commercial support in the future, especially from the gaming and 3d hardware side of things, I can imagine with really polished drivers that games would run really nicely what with the decreased resource usage and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmachine Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Guys, I need help. I can't install Ubuntu. When I insert the CD and reboot/turn on the PC, it boots from the CD, takes me to the menu and when I select Start or Install, it hangs up on Uncompressing (something)... OK, booting the kernel (not sure). Then it halts. After a minute or so, the CD stops spinning and nothing happens. When inserting the CD while in XP, it just brings up the list of the apps it has. It's supposed to do that anyway. So, yeah, I need some help. Maybe I am doing something wrong. We will be the arms that lift you up We will be the hand that strike you down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad91 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 I use Back Track 3 Final, which is a modified distribution based on Slackware. It is very useful for pentesting, and network analysis. It even has software to crack WEP or brute force WPA(2). For anyone who is interested in this sort of stuff, here ya go: Link I always answer this question but nobody ever seems to give a follow up on it. I guess nobody really cares. Hey thanks Six, I was just wondering, can I install BT3 on a new partition and still keep my dual boot loader (The one included with Ubuntu)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad91 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 Guys, I need help. I can't install Ubuntu. When I insert the CD and reboot/turn on the PC, it boots from the CD, takes me to the menu and when I select Start or Install, it hangs up on Uncompressing (something)... OK, booting the kernel (not sure). Then it halts. After a minute or so, the CD stops spinning and nothing happens.When inserting the CD while in XP, it just brings up the list of the apps it has. It's supposed to do that anyway. So, yeah, I need some help. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Can you please post your system specs? Also, check your CD for defects, I just burned one and it had an error from one small scratch. Get back to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmachine Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 May I ask why you need my specs? Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00 GHz ASUS 8800GT 512MB Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 2GB of OCZ RAM Titanium series (awesome timing and relatively cheap as well) I also have a Server Edition Ubuntu. They're both 6.10 if that is important. Can anyone please tell me the difference between an usual Ubuntu and SE? We will be the arms that lift you up We will be the hand that strike you down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 May I ask why you need my specs?Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00 GHz ASUS 8800GT 512MB Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 2GB of OCZ RAM Titanium series (awesome timing and relatively cheap as well) I also have a Server Edition Ubuntu. They're both 6.10 if that is important. Can anyone please tell me the difference between an usual Ubuntu and SE? I haven't used SE specifically to know, but I would imagine that it installs server applications during installation, such as Apache, MySQL, PHP5, etc. It also probably doesn't install a window manager initially, so what you'd wind up with is a terminal environment specified mostly for server work. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixdust Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I use Back Track 3 Final, which is a modified distribution based on Slackware. It is very useful for pentesting, and network analysis. It even has software to crack WEP or brute force WPA(2). For anyone who is interested in this sort of stuff, here ya go: Link I always answer this question but nobody ever seems to give a follow up on it. I guess nobody really cares. Hey thanks Six, I was just wondering, can I install BT3 on a new partition and still keep my dual boot loader (The one included with Ubuntu)? It should work, but if you are going to attempt illegal things, ie: hacking without permission, I suggest you use a live cd or do a USB drive install. Also, if you want to try the Wifi stuff, I suggest you take a look at the list of compatible chips located here. I do have to say that the wired network tools are most useful too. If you have any network equipment at home, tinker with them. These tools will spark some major interest once you use the tutorials right. This tutorial is great for wifi, I suggest you print it out, and give it a try. Also, for other tools, the official forums are a great resource. Located here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 (edited) I use Back Track 3 Final, which is a modified distribution based on Slackware. It is very useful for pentesting, and network analysis. It even has software to crack WEP or brute force WPA(2). For anyone who is interested in this sort of stuff, here ya go: Link I always answer this question but nobody ever seems to give a follow up on it. I guess nobody really cares. Hey thanks Six, I was just wondering, can I install BT3 on a new partition and still keep my dual boot loader (The one included with Ubuntu)? It should work, but if you are going to attempt illegal things, ie: hacking without permission, I suggest you use a live cd or do a USB drive install. Also, if you want to try the Wifi stuff, I suggest you take a look at the list of compatible chips located here. I do have to say that the wired network tools are most useful too. If you have any network equipment at home, tinker with them. These tools will spark some major interest once you use the tutorials right. This tutorial is great for wifi, I suggest you print it out, and give it a try. Also, for other tools, the official forums are a great resource. Located here A Live CD is great, but not every little tool you could want is available in BT3. On an old laptop I had, I put BT3 on a disk encrypted with dm-crypt. It was very nice, because a lot of applications that don't come on the disc by default are rather large, and when you're trying to get internet access in the first place, it's kind of hard to get them. Oh, anyone with a PS3 want to play some great old games on their Linux desktop? You can grab ePSXe and plug your PS3 controller into your computer, figure out which file it is in /dev/, and then map the buttons with the external gamepad in ePSXe. The only downside is that SIXAXIS is tempermental, and I don't think the analog sticks work at all. However, most kernels since 2.6.18 recognize the PS3 controller; 2.6.28 doesn't, but there's a patch available for it, and the next release will be using it. P.S. Before anyone gets on me about warez for mentioning ePSXe, you can play legal games in it. So bite me. Edited January 22, 2009 by SagaciousKJB QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paigey Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Maybe some of you guys can help me out with this one. I want to try out Linux, so I'm thinking that either Ubuntu or OpenSUSE is probably my best bet since I'm a dedicated Windows junkie lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelly Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I tried OpenSUSE, I think it feels kinda unpolished.. Maybe its because of KDE4, its still rough around the edges. Personally I won't recommend anything but Ubuntu to beginners unless they have a specific need or want for something different than something that Just Works. If a caveman idiot like me can get it working it's possible for anyone with just a little dedication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad91 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 May I ask why you need my specs?Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00 GHz ASUS 8800GT 512MB Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 2GB of OCZ RAM Titanium series (awesome timing and relatively cheap as well) I also have a Server Edition Ubuntu. They're both 6.10 if that is important. Can anyone please tell me the difference between an usual Ubuntu and SE? You should be running the Desktop edition, the server edition is alot less newbie friendly and alot of stuff has to be done manually. Try running the desktop edition. Paigey, I would suggest using Ubuntu, it has a ton of community support, and it is relativly easy to use, I went from Windows XP to Ubuntu, and it wan't that hard to assimilate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paigey Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) May I ask why you need my specs?Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.00 GHz ASUS 8800GT 512MB Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 2GB of OCZ RAM Titanium series (awesome timing and relatively cheap as well) I also have a Server Edition Ubuntu. They're both 6.10 if that is important. Can anyone please tell me the difference between an usual Ubuntu and SE? You should be running the Desktop edition, the server edition is alot less newbie friendly and alot of stuff has to be done manually. Try running the desktop edition. Paigey, I would suggest using Ubuntu, it has a ton of community support, and it is relativly easy to use, I went from Windows XP to Ubuntu, and it wan't that hard to assimilate. That's me installed Ubuntu now, kinda alright but weird having the bar along the top and it just seems abit alien like even though all I do is read e-mail and browse the net, just seems strange even still. EDIT: One problem I've got is that none of my USB keys work for some reason :-( Edited January 23, 2009 by Paigey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad91 Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Did you try formating them to FAT32 in the Partition Manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paigey Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Did you try formating them to FAT32 in the Partition Manager? Mmmm? What? I've got backup data on it so I can't format it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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