x8681150 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) it seems another patch may not be around soon!!! ,these [email protected]##$$ls are already too busy working on gta 5 to be released this year !!!,seems they dont count on gtaivpc sales anymore! so we got the scraps or left overs they were just practicing for their next big hit on consoles........ using us ,so we are ginea pigs!! http://www.mcvuk.com/news/32958/Grand-Thef...y-for-Christmas this topic is all over the internet!!!google it!!,,and watch they are going to take more than a year to put the pc version out ,to give just enough time to pc gamers to forget about whAT HAPPENED TO THE PC VERSION IN 2008!! :devil:http://www.gamedaily.com/games/grand-theft-auto-iv--the-lost-and-damned/xbox-360/game-features/grand-theft-auto-v-by-holiday-2009-rumor/http://www.pspsps.tv/2009/01/gta_successor_rumoured_to_come.htmlhttp://www.actiontrip.com/rei/comments_news.phtml?id=011509_3 The rumor mill is churning again -- this time about a brand new Grand Theft Auto game -- GTA V -- due in time for holiday 2009. The recent issue of Game Informer, the video game mag owned by Gamestop, says they have firm belief that the game will follow the traditional open-world, climb the crime ladder format and may take place in Tokyo. That's not all you'll hear from the Rockstar crew this year -- the game maker is releasing Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars for DS on March 17 in addition to Xbox 360 downloadable content -- The Lost & Damned -- in February (February 17, according to EBGames.com). Releasing another game so soon seem unlikely? Maybe. It took Rockstar one year to release Vice City after Grand Theft Auto III hit PS2. Then again, it took the company almost four years after San Andreas to release Grand Theft Auto IV. It's hard to imagine Rockstar working on a completely new GTA game, when Grand Theft Auto IV seems like it'll have plenty of longevity with downloadable content, which can add new stories and new cities into the mix. Unless, that is, Sam Houser wants to make good on the "very compelling" idea of a Grand Theft Auto MMO game. We find it rather compelling ourselves. We shot Rockstar reps an email for a comment on the rumor, asking "is Game Informer full of it?" "Yes!" they replied back. Or maybe they're just not ready to talk yet. http://www.gamedaily.com/games/grand-theft...day-2009-rumor/ :devil:http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2009/01/rumor_next_grand_theft_auto_could_hit_by_the_holidays-2.html Edited January 16, 2009 by x8681150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 there is more than 1 devision of rockstar, rockstar north do the console versions and they have nothing to do with the PC version other than handing over the 40 billion lines of code they make for the console versions for the toronto lot to wade through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horror Is Alive Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 f*ck, what Internet browser is people using that makes non-functional links? Firefox? GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerzworld Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) I don't see ANY WERE in that article that it's been announced, it's all just rumors and speculation...much like all the articles before GTAIV was announced saying that the next city would be Japan. to give just enough time to pc gamers to forget about whAT HAPPENED TO THE PC VERSION IN 2007!! Wait a minute! I've been covering the GTA series for years now and there was a PC port of a GTA released in 2007?! My god I've failed! And as noVa has said, there is more than one Rockstar Studio. There are 7 Rockstar Studios. Oh and BTW, must not be able to read as your post contains this snippet from the website: We shot Rockstar reps an email for a comment on the rumor, asking "is Game Informer full of it?" "Yes!" they replied back. Edited January 16, 2009 by gamerzworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x8681150 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) http://www.gamesdog.co.uk/news/news.phtml/...Christmas.phtml Edited January 16, 2009 by x8681150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerzworld Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 http://www.pspsps.tv/2009/01/gta_successor...html,,,,,,,,AND 1000 MORE !!! 1. LOOK AT THE TITLES OF THE f*ckING STORIES. If it says Rumored, THAT MEANS IT'S NOT ANNOUNCED. 2. Look at everyone's source. All of them quote GameInformer as their source. That's like me saying that Fox news rumors are true facts. 3. Actually make WORKING links next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x8681150 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 http://www.gamesdog.co.uk/news/news.phtml/...Christmas.phtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo1508 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Gta 4 was abandoned from release, any new patches will simply fix trivial issues that honestly know one cares about much like the first patch. The best we can hope for is that poorsales in line with horrid customer feedback will actually force them into making gta 5 a pc game. You also have to think they may not release another pc title after this mess, the customer outrage on the gamespot forums alone is the biggest ive ever seen and no doubt have resulted in poor sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snargelfargen Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Wow it sounds like you're all running around with your heads cut off because of a "rumor" that a new GTA game is coming out. Little news or speculation on what it is or when it will be coming out - The focus instead is that this means that rockstar will abandon GTA 4 and immediately sink money into something else. This "churning rumor mill" is created by one gaming news site making an entire article about the speculation (not based on fact) of another gaming site. Slow day at the office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungGun Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 As it says in one of the links posted: Rockstar have so far not responded to the claims. So saying that its been announced is so a fail. Point less topic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 something mut be going on though, r* have been recruiting for new employees recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snargelfargen Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 something mut be going on though, r* have been recruiting for new employees recently. "Succesful company hires more employees" Well at least they are doing well in the recession! It doesn't prove anything else though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x8681150 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 I don't see ANY WERE in that article that it's been announced, it's all just rumors and speculation...much like all the articles before GTAIV was announced saying that the next city would be Japan. to give just enough time to pc gamers to forget about whAT HAPPENED TO THE PC VERSION IN 2007!! Wait a minute! I've been covering the GTA series for years now and there was a PC port of a GTA released in 2007?! My god I've failed! And as noVa has said, there is more than one Rockstar Studio. There are 7 Rockstar Studios. Oh and BTW, must not be able to read as your post contains this snippet from the website: We shot Rockstar reps an email for a comment on the rumor, asking "is Game Informer full of it?" "Yes!" they replied back. I MEAN 2008 ,I MEAN GUYS,JUST LOOK A WHATS BEEN HAPPENING , I MEAN ,WHEN THIS GAME WAS GOING TO BE RELEASED I WAS THE FIRS ONE APPRAISING IT IN OTHER FORUMS LIKE L4D BUT LOOK AT THIS ,,THIS IS A DISASTER L4D SINCE LAUNCH HAS GONE SO SMOOTHLY,,THEY EVEN GOT MANY CUSTOM MAPS OUT AND WERE LEFT WITH THIS CRAP!!!! IS PATHETIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 something mut be going on though, r* have been recruiting for new employees recently. "Succesful company hires more employees" Well at least they are doing well in the recession! It doesn't prove anything else though. they aren't doing well in the recession thats my point, they share price are still really low and yet they're hiring? either a) employees are leaving or b) they want cheaper coders which means inexperienced coders which means but tbh again just speculation - i do find it weird that a company which has seen its share price fall so much are hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x8681150 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 all i know this is bad news for us,no wonder they did not reply to our complaints!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Expanding upon its wildly popular Grand Theft Auto franchise, Take-Two has now pinned its most recent hopes on two upcoming downloadable additions, available to Xbox 360 gamers. If the format proves successful, it may serve as a serious challenge to GameStop's bricks-and-mortar retail model. Yet at least one analyst thinks Take-Two won't generate enough revenue from the DLCs, because not nearly enough copies of the GTA game were sold to Xbox Live subscribers to make a difference. Wedbush Morgan says Take-Two received $50 million up front for GTA IV, and needs to wait until DLC generates $35 million in sales (approximately 1.8 million copies) before it will receive any more revenue. CAPS member dirkness isn't worried. 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Snargelfargen Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) they aren't doing well in the recession thats my point, they share price are still really low and yet they're hiring? either a) employees are leaving or b) they want cheaper coders which means inexperienced coders which means but tbh again just speculation - i do find it weird that a company which has seen its share price fall so much are hiring. Well, you're right about their share price, it's gone down steadily since September. Not a surprise, considering whats going on around the world right now. I can't say whether they have hired new employees or not, but they seem to be keeping their current staff according to this article: Take-Two has announced that it has signed new long-term employment contracts with senior team members at Rockstar, including Sam and Dan Houser. The new contracts will initially run to January 31, 2012, and have also been handed to The Benz as well as "several other key members of the creative team". Linky: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/take...-rockstar-deals In any case, if they are hiring new coders, the market is probably flooded with cheap talent right now, again thanks to the recession. Also here is an interesting tidbit I stumbled across: "We are initiating FY10 estimates for revenue of USD 1.55 billion, and non-GAAP EPS of USD 2.10. Our FY10 estimate presumes another instalment of Grand Theft Auto in 2010." Linky: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/pach...o-profitability This is of course just speculation from another news site, so it is just as valid as the articles x8681150 linked, except they probably used a calculator, not just their imagination. Edit re. above article ^^^: "Yet at least one analyst thinks Take-Two won't generate enough revenue from the DLCs, because not nearly enough copies of the GTA game were sold to Xbox Live subscribers to make a difference. Wedbush Morgan says Take-Two received $50 million up front for GTA IV, and needs to wait until DLC generates $35 million in sales (approximately 1.8 million copies) before it will receive any more revenue. CAPS member dirkness isn't worried. This member sees GTA morphing into a massively multiplayer online game experience similar to World of Warcraft: It is likely that [Take-Two Interactive] will produce at least two more best selling games on this engine (as it did with the GTA III engine) each with it's own additional DLC, before developing an MMO. However, when this next edition of GTA becomes available it will not only be another top selling game for [Take-Two Interactive], but it will be the dominate console MMO and generate a constant flow of subscription revenue." That's actually an interesting point. DLC's don't seem to have prolonged the lifespan of games very much thus far. Bethesda's Oblivion for example had quite a few smaller DLC's and one expansion released, but Fallout 3 came out just 2 and a half years later. I certainly don't know enough about the gaming biz to do more than guess about what will happen with GTA 4. If I was to guess, I would say that R* will release a full-fledged expansion so they can charge a "box" price, upwards of $30 and then move on to releasing a new game. At this point it's all speculation though... Edited January 16, 2009 by Snargelfargen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 GTA IV isn't for atleast 5 more years. We still have VC and Sa to encounter. Want clues to that? listen to the radio When they talk westcoast stuff, they talk sa. South east, VC. when they talk another palce, they use the places real name. Well onething confirmed , Los venturas.No it willl not be the same vc/sa you remember. Because it's a new game. New Engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creat3d22 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 GTA IV isn't for atleast 5 more years. We still have VC and Sa to encounter. Want clues to that? listen to the radio When they talk westcoast stuff, they talk sa. South east, VC. when they talk another palce, they use the places real name. Well onething confirmed , Los venturas.No it willl not be the same vc/sa you remember. Because it's a new game. New Engine. That doesn't mean anything, it's more likely just references to the older games. Just like the Claude, CJ etc graffitis... People seem to assume that, just because III was followed by VC and SA before going to IV, that the same thing will happen this time around. I don't see any indications to that They might release V as the next release, just as they might do another game or two in the present "canon"... but then again, there's nothing linking III, VC and SA together besides using the same engine. In other words, we'll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x8681150 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) with the economy how it is they are better off jumping into a gtav as soon as possible,,,gta iv pc was the last draw!!! ,its time for something new!! they have no other games in witch to count on!!! !they need to show the share holders they have something new for the future Edited January 16, 2009 by x8681150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creat3d22 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 with the economy how it is they are better off jumping into a gtav as soon as possible,,,gta iv pc was the last draw!!! ,its time for something new!! The economy can tank, I don't think anyone at Rockstar's having money problems since last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 GTA IV isn't for atleast 5 more years. We still have VC and Sa to encounter. Want clues to that? listen to the radio When they talk westcoast stuff, they talk sa. South east, VC. when they talk another palce, they use the places real name. Well onething confirmed , Los venturas.No it willl not be the same vc/sa you remember. Because it's a new game. New Engine. That doesn't mean anything, it's more likely just references to the older games. Just like the Claude, CJ etc graffitis... People seem to assume that, just because III was followed by VC and SA before going to IV, that the same thing will happen this time around. I don't see any indications to that They might release V as the next release, just as they might do another game or two in the present "canon"... but then again, there's nothing linking III, VC and SA together besides using the same engine. In other words, we'll see! What? are you new? This is the type of stuff that Rockstar has done for us since day 1. Clues. it's what they do. what they used to do is clues and easter eggs. but we see where the coffee thing went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creat3d22 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) Oh hey there are references to the Australia-American war, so we'll probably see a war-themed game too uh? Doesn't mean sh*t, they're just easter eggs and references to the previous games. There's no indication that the next game will be V just as there's no way of knowing if they'll do other games before it. What? are you new? This, I love this! New to what exactly? Edited January 16, 2009 by creat3d22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Ok, um. I am sorry, but I didn't look at your date . you are clearly new here and have no idea how things are done. ok as fans, we play the game, we actually listen to the radio we get amazed by the buildings we look for clues on the next version. they talked Australian American war in vice city(gtaiii version) When they talk places that are real and will never come to gta, they use the real names, when they talk gta places, they use gta names. Like as well let's say Florida/Miami/Ft Lauderdale they use the Vice city names. When they talk Vegas, they say "Los Ventura" . and yeah, this would be the third time that san andreas would come to gta, and the 3.5(th) time vc came to the game(we have to remember stories). so yeah, each time gta has come out with a new engine, we saw all three cities. Now about two/three years ago there was a guy named "deep throat" that popped in here and gave out mess loads of clues he was flamed he was bashed, then we found it was all true. from the internet cafe`s and everything. except one thing, he mentioned a south American plane ride.. unless it happens in iv, I am not that far and have avoided spoilers so um. maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snargelfargen Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 with the economy how it is they are better off jumping into a gtav as soon as possible,,,gta iv pc was the last draw!!! ,its time for something new!! they have no other games in witch to count on!!! !they need to show the share holders they have something new for the future What? So now you want them to start GTA 5? I thought you linked the 2 articles to call attention to the lack of support for GTA 4. Why can't you decide what you want from rockstar? In fact now that I reread your posts in this thread and your other mammoth thread which just reappeared on page 1, (http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=386714&st=0) I'm starting to question your motives. You have spent at least an entire month (Other thread starts dec 22) bashing Rockstar and GTA 4. Why?!?! Is it seriously worth THAT much effort? Are you being paid to do this? I don't doubt that GTA 4 was unwisely released without support for lower end computers and patching for PC users has lagged far behind the other consoles. BUT Reading this forum is like being transported to some bizarre alternate dimension where Rockstar's execs feast on babies and purposely code malware to make their customers miserable. Why the hate? Why the irrationality? WHY?!?!?!?111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custard Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 http://www.gamesdog.co.uk/news/news.phtml/...Christmas.phtml Quote from article: "A magazine in the US has claimed..." blah blah wtf, "A magazine" - sounds like a reliable source of information, MUST be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creat3d22 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Ok, um. I am sorry, but I didn't look at your date . you are clearly new here and have no idea how things are done. ok as fans, we play the game, we actually listen to the radio we get amazed by the buildings we look for clues on the next version. they talked Australian American war in vice city(gtaiii version) When they talk places that are real and will never come to gta, they use the real names, when they talk gta places, they use gta names. Like as well let's say Florida/Miami/Ft Lauderdale they use the Vice city names. When they talk Vegas, they say "Los Ventura" . and yeah, this would be the third time that san andreas would come to gta, and the 3.5(th) time vc came to the game(we have to remember stories). so yeah, each time gta has come out with a new engine, we saw all three cities. Now about two/three years ago there was a guy named "deep throat" that popped in here and gave out mess loads of clues he was flamed he was bashed, then we found it was all true. from the internet cafe`s and everything. except one thing, he mentioned a south American plane ride.. unless it happens in iv, I am not that far and have avoided spoilers so um. maybe. Yes, being new to the forums means I'm new to the game of course... Did you read what I posted at all? There's no way of knowing what Rockstar will do next. None whatsoever. What you're talking about is simply inside jokes, references, etc. "cities that will never come to gta" really? Please tell me what else you saw in that crystal ball of yours! There is NO way of knowing what Rockstar have in plan, what they will do, how many games they'll put out with this engine, etc. You can fantasize all you want though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z3ro7 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 If tha information is right.. that GTA V will make the support for GTA IV disapear... is the best reason do dont buy the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Face Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 gta V is in the works? this is news to me??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 f*ck, what Internet browser is people using that makes non-functional links? Firefox? GTFO. What does Firefox have to do with people who can't post properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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