Is your GTA running slow?

[chngdman]

Simple question, guys, does GTA run good, and whats your FSB and Ram speed?

 

Need to know how to check. This is a popular answer:

 

http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpuz_149.zip

 

Download that and look on the memory tab and the cpu tab. Then answer with your speeds and if it works like ass or works great in the poll. Thanks!

 

Please describe as much as you like about why you voted how you voted and include other specs too, to support your voice, as well as to better map the overall experience of this community with GTA IV, at large. perhaps we will notice a pattern in votes.

 

I predict we will see 1066 or greater/runs great and 800 or below/like ass more than the other two options.

 

We should all post specs too, along with our vote/what we voted - this is what will make the poll results valuable...

Edited January 12, 2009 by chngdman

[xKingKaz]

my fsb is 1066mhz and ram speed is 400mhz

[GoreMaster]

AMD 8750 2.4 GHz Cpu 1800mhz FSB or 3.0gbps HT

Ram Kingston HyperX 1066 Mhz Dual Channel 4 Gigs

 

Just the NORMAL GTA Popins thats all for me

[chngdman]

 

my fsb is 1066mhz and ram speed is 400mhz

Damn, I did not consider slower ram... Fack... If this is the case, and the spread is this close, I suggest everyone vote by your FSB rating and ass/great, instead of for ram. I wrote the poll assuming everyone would be running 1:1

 

KingKaz, you should buy some PC4200/533 ram, you'll perform even better It's cheap now, too, like 20 to 35 bucks

 

 

Just the NORMAL GTA Popins thats all for me

HA! yes! exactly! The Normal ones. Don't you hate the one on "the bend" between the dukes bridge and toll booth? Ughhh kills my high speed cornering moment every time! lol.

Edited January 12, 2009 by chngdman

[thales100]

FSB is 1333 Mhz , RAM DDR3 1333 Mhz - GTA 4 runs smooth as silk.

 

[expiorer]

Slow because my rig barely passes minimum requirements (15-20 fps on low).

Crappy (unplayable) because of my ATI card (x1950).

*my monitor can run only 1024x768 max - that lowers quality of other settings too I guess.

*shadows look like %#$

*z-fighting

*lighting in rooms (cant see billiard table)

*dissapearing or flickering textures and shadows

*I can`t forgive physics engine bugs (guy is standing at open car door and I go full speed backwards - that guy doesn't even notices that. I crash - he walks away)

 

[chngdman]

 

Slow because my rig barely passes minimum requirements (15-20 fps on low).

Crappy (unplayable) because of my ATI card (x1950).

*my monitor can run only 1024x768 max - that lowers quality of other settings too I guess.

*shadows look like %#$

*z-fighting

*lighting in rooms (cant see billiard table)

*dissapearing or flickering textures and shadows

*I can`t forgive physics engine bugs (guy is standing at open car door and I go full speed backwards - that guy doesn't even notices that. I crash - he walks away)

Nice, thanks for the info. x1950 should run it, on 1024 for sure, just ugly zfighting, if I know right.

 

Can you please check your front side bus speed and dram frequency with CPUID (or you can look in bios, etc) so as to cast a vote? I am going to assume for now you're on the 800/400 and below side, and I know you're voting ass and not great for now

 

Inability to kill with car door irks me too

 

edit: we have a vote for 1066/533 or greater/like ass, who was that? Was that you?

 

We should all post specs too, along with our vote - this is what will make the poll results valuable...

Edited January 12, 2009 by chngdman

[pinky]

FSB is 1333 Mhz , RAM DDR3 1333 Mhz - GTA 4 runs smooth as silk.

 

Similar for me, 1337FSB and 1337 DDR3 RAM. 1337, just because I could.

My FSB and RAM are locked on a 1:1 ratio as the RAM is 1600 capable and it works a treat, could go higher but I prefer to run a higher multiplier in the CPU as this is where the real speed is. Running it at 12.5 multiplier just now to get just under 4.2GHz.

[Lem-Bert]

htt on 200 and ram 1066.

results in a nice steady 45-55 fps with few extremes to 40 and 60 on 1600 1200 high highest 10 10 10 0.

[chngdman]

You're actually on a 1:2 ratio, as 1333 FSB is 1:1 with 666mhz, isn't it? Like, my FSB is 1066mhz, I have 533mhz ram (ddr2, 266mhz each) and I am 1:1 ratio?? right??

[asb]

Sig is self explanatory. Tried fixing and tweaking to my best knowledge and experience for 3 weeks.

FSB: Mobo 1333/1600Mhz(Max); CPU 1333Mhz; RAM 1333Mhz

Hope it helps.

 

Maybe I should add, that despite the low framerate, I have had no issues with the game whatsoever, graphically or stability-wise.

[pinky]

You're actually on a 1:2 ratio, as 1333 FSB is 1:1 with 666mhz, isn't it? Like, my FSB is 1066mhz, I have 533mhz ram (ddr2, 266mhz each) and I am 1:1 ratio?? right??

1:1 I think. Don't hold me to it as I am not a RAM expert by any means and couldn't be 100% sure.

I can type in exact amounts with my mobo and FSB is 1337 and the RAM is set to 1:1 ratio with it in the BIOS.

[thales100]

 

Sig is self explanatory. Tried fixing and tweaking to my best knowledge and experience for 3 weeks.

FSB: Mobo 1333/1600Mhz(Max); CPU 1333Mhz; RAM 1333Mhz

Hope it helps.

 

Maybe I should add, that despite the low framerate, I have had no issues with the game whatsoever, graphically or stability-wise.

We have very similar configs but at 3Ghz (no oc), as your Q9650, i get 48 FPS at 1680 x 1050 HIGH - HIGHEST - 100 - 100 , and you always less than 15 ?

Edited January 12, 2009 by thales100

[chngdman]

 

Sig is self explanatory. Tried fixing and tweaking to my best knowledge and experience for 3 weeks.

FSB: Mobo 1333/1600Mhz(Max); CPU 1333Mhz; RAM 1333Mhz

Hope it helps.

 

Maybe I should add, that despite the low framerate, I have had no issues with the game whatsoever, graphically or stability-wise.

omfg that is horrible, the speed at which you play this game when your specs are so nice. You may be the answer I am looking for - really makes no sense. The ONLY way I am able to get performance like in your sig is to slow my ram to 400mhz or below, and even then it only slows when I move fast or look far. I have 1066/533 for a 1:1 and an hd3850 (a good year and 6 months behind your card, I think), and I get steady 30 FPS, with spikes and dips rarely.

 

You may be the proof that the pudding is not down to the speed of our FSB and memory frequency, but we'll let the poll fill up and see.

 

ASB, are you on vista like Thales? I'm XP sp3

 

@pinky - do a check with CPUz from within windows

 

 

i get 48 FPS at 1680 x 1050 HIGH - HIGHEST - 100 - 100 , and you always less than 15 ?

 

Yea, see, something fishy about ASB's answer (not calling you liar, just saying - take a look at CPUz to see how fast it is actually running - though it seems you know your box, it's so odd you only get 15 FPS)

 

I'm really having a hard time believing all IV of those votes so far for 1066/ass are truly accurate, because not one single vote for 800mhz PC yet??? None??? I guess we need to give some space for votes from people with low config who want "fixes" we'll see IF you vote 1066/ASS, please POST your video card - as we will see, I am *almost* sure, in your cases, this is the culprit.

Edited January 12, 2009 by chngdman

[thales100]

 

i get 48 FPS at 1680 x 1050 HIGH - HIGHEST - 100 - 100 , and you always less than 15 ?

 

Yea, see, something fishy about ASB's answer (not calling you liar, just saying - take a look at CPUz to see how fast it is actually running - though it seems you know your box, it's so odd you only get 15 FPS)

 

 

Yeah, btw the 48 FPS i get in the benchmark with the Qx9650 at 3Ghz , actual game without CPU oc 25 - 65 FPS.

You cant play a game at 9 FPS, its really strange ...

Edited January 12, 2009 by thales100

[chngdman]

Strange indeed. I'm sure we will get a clear picture when we get like 100 votes. I think I want to use at least 100 votes for the control, but maybe we'll need to go lower, if votes dont come, I mean.

[asb]

 

We have very similar configs but at 3Ghz (no oc), as your Q9650, i get 48 FPS at 1680 x 1050 HIGH - HIGHEST - 100 - 100 , and you always less than 15 ?

Well insides when looking at a corner I get almost 20. But well, that's absolute peak performance. One funny thing is, that when I hook up my GFX card to a cathode ray screen(old tv) and set the output to PAL(50 fields) its almost playable, lol. It still shows up to 15 frames in fraps, but because of the frame doubling the framerate is effectively doubled too.

 

 

ASB, are you on vista like Thales? I'm XP sp3

I own Windows XP(SP3) and Vista Ultimate 64(SP1). They are on two separate hot plug able HDDs. OS change makes no difference in this case. I usually play on XP. I have no problem with other games, and haven't had since I bought this rig.

[GoreMaster]

Hey just to show that im not lying about my specs i just did this test

 

 

[pinky]

We have very similar configs but at 3Ghz (no oc), as your Q9650, i get 48 FPS at 1680 x 1050 HIGH - HIGHEST - 100 - 100 , and you always less than 15 ?

Well insides when looking at a corner I get almost 20. But well, that's absolute peak performance. One funny thing is, that when I hook up my GFX card to a cathode ray screen(old tv) and set the output to PAL(50 fields) its almost playable, lol. It still shows up to 15 frames in fraps, but because of the frame doubling the framerate is effectively doubled too.

 

 

ASB, are you on vista like Thales? I'm XP sp3

I own Windows XP(SP3) and Vista Ultimate 64(SP1). They are on two separate hot plug able HDDs. OS change makes no difference in this case. I usually play on XP. I have no problem with other games, and haven't had since I bought this rig.

Try the -novblank commandline, sounds like that may help you.

 

I think if the way things are looking with this RAM idea of yours chngdman, then it would by reasonable to assume in future PCs R* maybe did mean i7s as they do have good memory handling.

[Ardbug]

1066/ass memory at 533 here with a 9800gtx+ 512mb, Im pretty sure my culprit is 2gb+vista64 though because the game runs perfect till the memory bug starts, thats the only problem I have with the game, after 20-30 minutes the screen will freeze a few milliseconds, and after that everything starts to deteriorate. Im installing a new mobo+4gig ram monday, and Im confident that the game will be playable then.

[xKingKaz]

HMMM WTF? it says i got 400mhz but when i look at the ram i bought it says 800mhz!? WTF

 

btw i have a pc6400 or something ram 8 gb of it

 

and its 2gb for each slot

Edited January 12, 2009 by xKingKaz

[chngdman]

 

1066/ass memory at 533 here with a 9800gtx+ 512mb, Im pretty sure my culprit is 2gb+vista64 though because the game runs perfect till the memory bug starts, thats the only problem I have with the game, after 20-30 minutes the screen will freeze a few milliseconds, and after that everything starts to deteriorate. Im installing a new mobo+4gig ram monday, and Im confident that the game will be playable then.

Definitely, you need 3 gigs on vista (according to the tweak guides found here, anyhow). I bet you will be pleased because GTA uses 1.5 gig ram at peak - that was probably whenever you see issues.

 

@Pinky: yea man, I see 2 to 2 votes on there now for 800/400/ass/great too. So maybe it's not the speed... I drop my ram to 400, out the window goes any of my otherwise 'braggable' performance (with such low spec CPU). Hmm, Have to keep watching, I guess.

 

@KingKaz: Do not fear, that is correct. You have DDR2 PC6400 - this is 2 sticks at 400mhz each, 800mhz effective. However, I do believe that since you said:

 

 

my fsb is 1066mhz and ram speed is 400mhz

 

I think this means you are actually running equivalent to 533mhz (like, that's where your ram is too fast for FSb, and ram bottlenecks, but it's ok, cause your ram is stressed less than it is rated, and will last longer , it's also not necessarily exactly accurate, as I am a bit confused right now to be honest). Check bios for your DRAM freq and try to change it to 533mhz - if you have 800mhz ram, it will work, and it will be throttled by bios, so it will probably perform even better and longer once you manually set it to match your FSB.

Edited January 12, 2009 by chngdman

[smoking6]

Unfortunatly smartass, only the crybabys who have prblems will vote here and start topics as such.

 

The BIG BIG BIG majority of ppl are NOT HAVING ISSUES. But of course you don't see them whining all day on the forums. Only the retards that are having issues with this game post here.

 

The vote is TOTALY USELESS for being not a true %

[chngdman]

 

Unfortunatly smartass, only the crybabys who have prblems will vote here and start topics as such.

 

The BIG BIG BIG majority of ppl are NOT HAVING ISSUES. But of course you don't see them whining all day on the forums. Only the retards that are having issues with this game post here.

 

The vote is TOTALY USELESS for being not a true %

Well, I don't know how right you are. You sound like assumption to me.

 

And why the attitude? Cast your vote, drop what you voted, drop your specs, move on...

[okei]

Somebody help me out here. I don't know anything about speeds.

 

Which one is my FSB?

 

Which is my memory speed?

 

I usually overlook these kinds of things.

[noVa]

the real fsb is 400mhz (aka 1600mhz) ram is 533mhz (aka 1066mhz)

 

decided to take my 3.8ghz overclock down to 3.6ghz today, as i'm not sure on my voltage settings as yet and i don't have the time to properly test it at the moment and it made no impact on the game!

 

can't really do anything on the poll as theres no option for the game runs OK but has issues.

[chngdman]

okei: you are running an 800mhz FSB and rated 667mhz ram (333 each).

 

This means your ram is considerably faster than your FSB and would, I think, match much better with a 1333 FSB - but it's ok to have faster ram I am learning from posting here.

 

I'm not a hardware guy by any means, more software actually, but I am learning a lot, and I would be interested to know what you will vote now that you know you are 800mhz FSB? Choose one of those 2 since your ram is the faster of the two, and vote ass or great. Cheers.

 

Nova, your ram is 266mhz each, right? 533total to match a FSB of 1066. In this case, your ram is considerably slower than your FSb - I don't know how this effects things, or which of the two of you has the bottleneck and which of you has an unannounced bonus - hopefully someone will shed light, as I am really trying to understand, and I know one of these two components frequency is going to be a big deal at the end of the day.

[nvr2fst]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 13, 2009 by nvr2fst

[noVa]

 

Nova, your ram is 266mhz each, right? 533total to match a FSB of 1066. In this case, your ram is considerably slower than your FSb - I don't know how this effects things, or which of the two of you has the bottleneck and which of you has an unannounced bonus - hopefully someone will shed light, as I am really trying to understand, and I know one of these two components frequency is going to be a big deal at the end of the day.

no my ram is set at 533mhz, and ram bus speed is double rated meaning its 533mhz x2 , just like the fsb of the processor is quad rated meaning 400mhz x 4 = 1600mhz

my ram isn't locked to a 1:1 ratio, its on a 3:4 ratio.

 

i think your getting confused as to how fsb works to be honest,

 

i should really have my ram at 800mhz to match the FSB but i really don't see any performance issues or losses for not having it matched, when i decide to play with the latencies then i will underclock to 800mhz and lower the timings which will see a performance increase, the difference between ram speed above a point is really negligible and you will hardly see any gain.

Edited January 13, 2009 by noVa

[barcabal]

 

 

runs like ass. 18fps average.

im running vista x64 with a nivida 8800 GT.

 

This should play better surely??