jonathang Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) i saw salvtores house in gta 4 it looks very different it looks like big a old mansion.in gta 3 it look like a apartment Edited January 13, 2009 by jonathang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC. Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Nope. I don't know why and how the first people who reviewed this game before it was released said that Salvatore's house was in the game. It's not his house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnia sunt Communia Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I don't even see the similarities, personally. It's just two big houses that have a long road leading up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathang Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) it had long road way as gta3 Edited January 12, 2009 by jonathang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnia sunt Communia Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 How does that make it the same as Salvatore's House? Salvatore's Gentlemen Club: Abandoned Mansion: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TECHN9CiAN Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Don't forget: Salvatore's place is in Liberty state. The other place is in Alderney state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 The main similarity is the approach and landscape and isolated cliffside setting which reminds people of driving to Salvatore's house. Different details don't mean it is or isn't Salvatore's house because the whole city looks different and most of the place names are different. Some people think if everything doesn't look the same then nothing can be the same, other people are more flexible, alternate universes, whatever. The abandoned mansion is unexplained so people can think whatever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quench Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Yeah, I don't see the similarities. As stated, only the road and surrounding reminds me of the house....but its not. Also, wasn't Salvatore's Gentlemen's Club in the Red Light District or summ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitoBX Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Both places where idiots claim Sal's how is, is the old abandoned Casino and the abandoned house in the picture which are both in Alderny which is supposed to be New Jersey if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Yeah, I don't see the similarities. As stated, only the road and surrounding reminds me of the house....but its not. Also, wasn't Salvatore's Gentlemen's Club in the Red Light District or summ? I don't think he means the house pictured above. I think he means the one you do missions at in the game where that bentley is and the garage doors work. It is still not very similar to the Leone place visually, BUT the road that leads to it is almost exactly the same and so is the garage and parking spaces, cars parked the same place, etc... Different color house, different architecture bearing some similarities, although, yea, to me, it is truly the new version of that house. other people are more flexible, alternate universes, whatever Me. Have to admit, it is eerily similar, and the garage is in the same place, with the similar road up, and the car is parked in the same place, just not a sentinel: Edited January 12, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slamman Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 If you are meaning the Alderney deserted mansion, as stated above, clearly different, and OBVIOUS...painfully so, this Liberty City is not and WAS NOT intended to reflect the previous one. Sam Houser stated in magazines, and was mentioned a few times, the Liberty City of the past is not directly tied to NYC, but several prominent USA cities, like Chicago. This Liberty City goes back to the initial idea of serving homage to the REAL New York City, despite the City's lack of enthusiasm for the gesture! There's no tie in with the games' previous central characters, as the Housers stated before as well. It's just wishful thinking on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC. Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Sal's house is the old abandoned Casino? That's stupid but it does look a bit similar to Pegorino's house in that picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LitoBX Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I'll say it again, no mansion in Alderny could be Sal's mansion for the simple fact that Alderny is supposed to be New Jersey, and Sal didn't live there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Doesn't matter where he lived. And Liberty City was not New York in the last games, it was partially new york. That big orange stadium? Yea, that's in Philly. The Liberty Bell, philly too. One of the bridges was from philly too. Look at the pic I posted above, if any place was inspired by or based on Sal's house, it is that one. Just look at it... car parked same place as sentinel in old GTA LC, garages in the same place. Completely different house, but still, approaching it and up to the garage: Next Gen Sal's Driveway. lol. I'm not saying it's an egg, I'm not saying it's going to be revealed or other characters will come back or anything like that, I'm just saying, that house is at the very least partially inspired by that exact house from GTA III. The similarities (in my pic) are uncanny... It's also used by a big boss too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I'll say it again, no mansion in Alderny could be Sal's mansion for the simple factthat Alderny is supposed to be New Jersey, and Sal didn't live there. Doesn't mean anything. Francis International Airport switched islands too, and it even kept its name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathang Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 I'll say it again, no mansion in Alderny could be Sal's mansion for the simple factthat Alderny is supposed to be New Jersey, and Sal didn't live there. Doesn't mean anything. Francis International Airport switched islands too, and it even kept its name. that was in gta 3 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJimmy Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Ever heard of the canon rule? This is a completely new canon and according to IV none of the other GTA's occurred. If they DID put sal's mansion in there it would be nothing more than a homage. Just as the name of the airport is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Al Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Ever heard of the canon rule?This is a completely new canon and according to IV none of the other GTA's occurred. If they DID put sal's mansion in there it would be nothing more than a homage. Just as the name of the airport is. I don't see the point of this argument. Rockstar doesn't go that far in anything they've said. Many fictional "canons" are self-contradictory and there is no "rule" against this. For example, Arthur C. Clarke's Space Odyssey books each take place in an alternate universe because he didn't want to be limited by details he made up decades ago. As I said, some people can deal with partial continuity and some people are all-or-nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJimmy Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Ever heard of the canon rule?This is a completely new canon and according to IV none of the other GTA's occurred. If they DID put sal's mansion in there it would be nothing more than a homage. Just as the name of the airport is. I don't see the point of this argument. Rockstar doesn't go that far in anything they've said. Many fictional "canons" are self-contradictory and there is no "rule" against this. For example, Arthur C. Clarke's Space Odyssey books each take place in an alternate universe because he didn't want to be limited by details he made up decades ago. As I said, some people can deal with partial continuity and some people are all-or-nothing. Well if all the evidence in the world is there to provide you with a clear understanding that IV is a different canon and you don't take it then that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeKillaManiac Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Ever heard of the canon rule?This is a completely new canon and according to IV none of the other GTA's occurred. If they DID put sal's mansion in there it would be nothing more than a homage. Just as the name of the airport is. I don't see the point of this argument. Rockstar doesn't go that far in anything they've said. Many fictional "canons" are self-contradictory and there is no "rule" against this. For example, Arthur C. Clarke's Space Odyssey books each take place in an alternate universe because he didn't want to be limited by details he made up decades ago. As I said, some people can deal with partial continuity and some people are all-or-nothing. wtf is a book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) Here is the supporting and non-supporting details. Supporting: They both have a dirt road leading to the house. They both are on a hill by a beach. They both are located in the northeast of the borough they are located in. They both have a Sentinel(s) by their house. They both have a multi-door garage (or does GTA III's have two doors). *The airport went from the west side to the east side. Non-supporting: The houses don't look similar. The dirt trail is longer and branches in GTA IV. The garage isn't connected to the house in GTA IV. The house is a lot larger in GTA IV. *The house in GTA IV is in a NJ based state while the house in GTA III is in a a borough that is most likely (probably not from what some say) supposed to be based off NYC. *The flopping from west to east and east to west makes it more difficult to determine that if LC was flipped around from the GTA III canon. I'm sure all GTA cities and states are in the same universe. It's just that R* changes landscape too much (which is fine), but they also change the name of almost every place in the cities in each new canon. I mean that GTA(1), GTA III (GTA LCS), and GTA IV basically change the names of the locations completely other than a very few of them (like the airport's name from GTA III era to GTA IV era). Edited January 13, 2009 by CryptReaperDorian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICmaggot543 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 The Liberty City in GTA4 is not the same one as in GTA3, lcs, etc. Its an entirely different universe. None of the events, places, etc, that happened in the GTA3 universe even exsisted here. They have the same names yes, but different universe. In the interviews leading up to the release of GTA4 they confirmed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryptReaperDorian Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Well no matter what you believe, it is safe to say that it atleast somewhat exists in the same universe. Examples: Names of cities Plenty of references Radio voices Vehicle names Company names Although, yes. The GTA IV canon has had such a major overhaul that existing in the same universe is very questionable. I, in my opinion, believe that the GTA cities, states, and Carcer City all exist in the same universe or at least link together. I think R* should not be renaming everything all the time so the "GTA/Manhunt Universe" can exist as one universe other than a couple (as some believe) that intercept every once in a while. Also, the Salvatore Leone house is for sure in GTA IV (not talking about the GTA IV mansion), just not as a full scale house. A little dollhouse sized model can be found in the putting course close to the carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJimmy Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Ugh you don't get it. The names, the references, all that - it's simply homages to remind you that it is still GRAND THEFT AUTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA3Freak-2001 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I figure its one of two things, it's either a coincidence that this deserted mansion makes us all(or some) think of Sal's mansion or Rockstar have created this area in a sort of psuedo homage to GTA3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) Here is the supporting and non-supporting details. Supporting: They both have a dirt road leading to the house. They both are on a hill by a beach. They both are located in the northeast of the borough they are located in. They both have a Sentinel(s) by their house. They both have a multi-door garage (or does GTA III's have two doors). *The airport went from the west side to the east side. Non-supporting: The houses don't look similar. The dirt trail is longer and branches in GTA IV. The garage isn't connected to the house in GTA IV. The house is a lot larger in GTA IV. *The house in GTA IV is in a NJ based state while the house in GTA III is in a a borough that is most likely (probably not from what some say) supposed to be based off NYC. *The flopping from west to east and east to west makes it more difficult to determine that if LC was flipped around from the GTA III canon. I'm sure all GTA cities and states are in the same universe. It's just that R* changes landscape too much (which is fine), but they also change the name of almost every place in the cities in each new canon. I mean that GTA(1), GTA III (GTA LCS), and GTA IV basically change the names of the locations completely other than a very few of them (like the airport's name from GTA III era to GTA IV era). no man NOT that house, even if thats what this guy was posting about, it's not that house. Not the one up north. It's in the middle of alderney on the west side, and it is VERY similar except the house itself. Even the garage and where the car is parked is the same. Go back one page to MY picture, then you will see. Those other pictures are obviously not the place that looks like sals. (as you see, im not saying it IS sals, but I am saying you are all arguing about the wrong location in the first place...) Also, there is no mention of a state, only that alderney is BASED on jersey. NYC is liberty, but no one ever said it was in New York State. And it's not. Its all liberty city... Edited January 13, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherDave Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 it is VERY similar except the house itself. You make a persuasive argument, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) dude, look at the f*cking picture. Go there in the game. It is even the home of an Italian Mafia leader or something like that. Look at the f*cking picture, go there in game. It is the same place, next gen, different location, looks different - francis international airport come to mind? Thought so. Look at the picture. Car parked the same place, same exact shape of the road, has a working garage, the only difference is the architecture BEYOND the driveway - which is still very similar in the layout EXCEPT for the shape of the house and it's color - that's it. Go there. You will feel like you are in GTA III when you stand certain places. I'm not saying it IS the place, I'm saying it is the place that looks like sals. Not the other place. That other place was pointless to even bring into this... It is even on this wiki page in the f*cking trivia section while I was searching for pics of the old house with the driveway included: http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Salvatore_Leone You probably never even played GTA 3. The guy who owns this f*cking house can EASILY be compared to SALVATORE - OLD ITALIAN MAFIA. Edited January 13, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiliGTAFan Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 dude, look at the f*cking picture. Go there in the game. It is even the home of an Italian Mafia leader or something like that. Look at the f*cking picture, go there in game. It is the same place, next gen, different location, looks different - francis international airport come to mind? Thought so. Look at the picture. Car parked the same place, same exact shape of the road, has a working garage, the only difference is the architecture BEYOND the driveway - which is still very similar in the layout EXCEPT for the shape of the house and it's color - that's it. Go there. You will feel like you are in GTA III when you stand certain places. I'm not saying it IS the place, I'm saying it is the place that looks like sals. Not the other place. That other place was pointless to even bring into this... It is even on this wiki page in the f*cking trivia section while I was searching for pics of the old house with the driveway included: http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Salvatore_Leone You probably never even played GTA 3. The guy who owns this f*cking house can EASILY be compared to SALVATORE - OLD ITALIAN MAFIA. [ That's not the house the wiki was talking about. That's Jimmy's house and "Salvatore's Mansion" is here http://snapmap.wikigta.org/index.php?map=I...tle=&set=249,77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsydianRaven Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Well no matter what you believe, it is safe to say that it atleast somewhat exists in the same universe.Examples: Names of cities Plenty of references Radio voices Vehicle names Company names Although, yes. The GTA IV canon has had such a major overhaul that existing in the same universe is very questionable. I, in my opinion, believe that the GTA cities, states, and Carcer City all exist in the same universe or at least link together. I think R* should not be renaming everything all the time so the "GTA/Manhunt Universe" can exist as one universe other than a couple (as some believe) that intercept every once in a while. Also, the Salvatore Leone house is for sure in GTA IV (not talking about the GTA IV mansion), just not as a full scale house. A little dollhouse sized model can be found in the putting course close to the carnival. I belive that GTA III and IV are in the same universe aswell and that there is two Liberty Citys, located in different states. I belive the Liberty City from GTA III/LCS could be possibly located in one of the costal New England states, either Massachusettes (most likely in Cape Cod), Rhode Island or Conneticut. I belive that the one in GTA IV could possibly located off the coast of one of the Mid-Atlantic states. But anyways, the similarities between the house in the pic above and Salvatore's mansion could just be one of the references to past GTA games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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