:DRX: ¡EyE! Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Rockstar knew long before they released this that the minimum and recommended requirements weren't enough to play the game properly. So do you think we were deliberately misled by Rockstar, or were they just unaware of how poorly GTA4 the game actually was? No, they were just unaware of how many console gamers think they know how to use a pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gangxxter Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Rockstar knew long before they released this that the minimum and recommended requirements weren't enough to play the game properly. So do you think we were deliberately misled by Rockstar, or were they just unaware of how poorly GTA4 the game actually was? No, they were just unaware of how many console gamers think they know how to use a pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 No, they were just unaware of how many console gamers think they know how to use a pc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo1508 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 lol at these dud fanboys , 'the game runs great' hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 lol at these dud fanboys , 'the game runs great' hahahaha Yea funny huh. I don't understand where they get that idea? Especially since they don't own a xbox 360 and don't compare it vs. a 5 grand computer. Hmmm, noobs? C didn't understand what clock speed vs new editions was, then he started stating he had problems although he did say it was perfectly fine. I guess that means he doesn't know what side of the fence he is on for this thread . Go Team, Rockstar f*cked Us! Only an idiot would try to explain how the Xbox 360 playing off a DVD plays fine vs a computer with nice specs. It doesn't work because it just doesn't. Rockstar didn't code it right, and they don't plan to fix it. That's the cold hard truth, until you understand that, your on the other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thales100 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 K guys, let's look at the Rockstar f*cked Us team. Team - Rockstar f*cked Us losersmith knownothing crappyrig celeronmark pentium2owner 512mb_ramkid xboxspecialist rantjohn dualcoreharry 7200gs pentium3whynot lierted loser_imtheone loser_n_lier consolelover 150buckspc 2001gamingpc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:DRX: ¡EyE! Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Hmmm, I was under the impression that this forum was a fan site, correct me if I'm wrong. And guess what? I am a fan of the GTA series including IV. But anywho, I thought you guys would realize by now that PC games aren't ever released in a perfect state and are invariably buggy for months following their release. You don't understand that yet do ya? I'm certainly not thrilled that the last game patch caused several new issues such as the benchmark/sound issue and the directx controllers BS. I think R* should have released a hotfix for the problems added by the last patch, but they didn't so I accepted it. I'm still waiting and anxious, but I'm not coming into fan forums and continuously talking ill of the game and the developers, I guess because I understand the whole process and I've learned to have patience. But threads like this are absurd and sometimes I can't help but to have a sarcastic comment, sorry if I offended you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastsource Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 No tweaking. Stock speeds. Game runs fine for me out of the box. We all know I am on minimum specs. As far as I'm concerned, since my minimum spec PC runs the game fine, you're all paid by EA and only here to detract the game. lol jk. Even if the game runs fine for you "out of the box" it is obvious that it does not do that for many others. Which means there is something wrong with the game. And still I wonder why you would call adding a -availablevidmem 2.0 option to a commandline.txt file is "runs fine for me out of the box". For me that is already tweaked, after reading at least a few forum posts. There is no hint anywhere in the game docs to put that option there. Besides the fact that adding this option just puts the problem into another corner. To compare: I installed Crysis "out of the box", no tweaking except setting ingame how much quality versus performance I like, and I could just start playing. There are no glitches ingame like "wtf was that pop-in?, why all the flickering and pixel noise"? Thats what I expected from GTA 4 as well. Of course it might not give the best and greatest frame rates on my pc, but I expected the game to be coded solid. Which it is not. The shadow implementation looks great on downscaled static screenshots. Ingame they are just ugly. If it would have been clear from trailers or screenshots that I would have to live with all the f*cked up shadows I would have felt a lot less f*cked by R*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defuser Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Someone please explain to me how I have a computer far exceeding the minimum specs and yet I cannot run the game without the clip editor disabled for fear of crashes, regardless of settings? i7 920 @ 3.8GHz on P6T Deluxe HD4870X2 2GB (although, to all intents and purposes, 1GB) 6GB DDR3 X-Fi Titanium Pro All with latest drivers/BIOS. Every other game runs flawlessly. With clip capture off, it runs flawlessly (constant 45+ FPS) at max settings, including view distance if I double my availablevidmem (completely stable), at 1600x1200. No complaints about the gameplay itself. The game has a problem with how it handles memory - specifically VRAM - on certain configurations. I would suggest it has a leak. It is nothing to do with competency in using a computer. No amount of commandline trickery can solve this. It is not part and parcel of being a PC gamer to have to test and retest settings without a clue as to what they ACTUALLY do. A lot of the posts in this thread are flamebait. People are having problems with this game through no fault of their own. They are entitled to express their disappointment (within reason). Will it be patched? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) C, I was playing with ya. It is common knowledge to know how it should work. However if we got a chance to look at their code and examine, I'll bet ya there is a lot of code that needs revising. Ok, so it's time for me to pull out the BIG GUNS, and I will. For anyone that believes this game runs fine try and stop this, it won't be easy. Remember, we don't like to compare the computer vs console, but I know a lot of you will agree the xbox 360 is outdated, am I right? Well so the new computers have better specs, even if we spend 5 grand on a computer and this game still doesn't work.... ok? That sounds like me, but hey here it is! Xbox 360 plays GTA 4 from a DVD, yes folks a DVD. Now any geniuses in here will say right away. How so? If the engine is so power hungry, what the f*ck is wrong here? Well we all should know running a game from the DVD and retriving constant files from it will be disasterious. But, Rockstar did it, now without it playing off a DVD, they didn't. WTF is wrong here? Am I the only one to see this? Please examine, anyone that thinks they are smart enough to answer. For team, Rockstar f*cked Us. I think we won! XBox installs GTA now because of all of the problems it had off of the DVD. And, even off of the DVD, the console is not running windows at the same time and handling other things in the background. Xbox background noise is minimal, and on it's OWN core, remember? Our processors are not so lucky to be configured in that way. No win. lol noVa, here is a good explanation of LOD: Go into IV, go about 30 feet away from a car, start turning down view distance, watch the car turn low detail > that is an LOD, a level of detail. Or just look at some mid-range buildings and do the same. The low quality ones (a few levels of detail, not just hi and lo, in IV its hi lo lower lowest and some cases lowest-est ) are the LOD, as you get closer, the LOD is replaced by its SDM (standard def model, other names for this too... Parent is popular...) But that's it, simple as that, it is a much less expensive model (resources) that is used at a far-clip (since far away it can only be made of a few pixels anyway) See, the further you get, the less pixels make up an object, so not only would it be crazy to render the whole city high-def, it would be pointless as well. Much like how a 1680x1050 resolution wastes any view and detail level above 41 and 81 (as far as I can tell, iirc, and it may come down to whose eyes are looking as well) Edited January 13, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oc student Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) No tweaking. Stock speeds. Game runs fine for me out of the box. We all know I am on minimum specs. As far as I'm concerned, since my minimum spec PC runs the game fine, you're all paid by EA and only here to detract the game. lol jk. Even if the game runs fine for you "out of the box" it is obvious that it does not do that for many others. Which means there is something wrong with the game. And still I wonder why you would call adding a -availablevidmem 2.0 option to a commandline.txt file is "runs fine for me out of the box". For me that is already tweaked, after reading at least a few forum posts. There is no hint anywhere in the game docs to put that option there. Besides the fact that adding this option just puts the problem into another corner. To compare: I installed Crysis "out of the box", no tweaking except setting ingame how much quality versus performance I like, and I could just start playing. There are no glitches ingame like "wtf was that pop-in?, why all the flickering and pixel noise"? Thats what I expected from GTA 4 as well. Of course it might not give the best and greatest frame rates on my pc, but I expected the game to be coded solid. Which it is not. The shadow implementation looks great on downscaled static screenshots. Ingame they are just ugly. If it would have been clear from trailers or screenshots that I would have to live with all the f*cked up shadows I would have felt a lot less f*cked by R*. Some one is f*cking with your head if you think you can render all that sh*t in GTA 4 without those shadows which in real life would appear to be normal since there are bumps and ruts in the ashpalt. f*ck on that R* f*cked us up team. Oh and even if R* included soft shadows you dumbasses wuold still be whinging and saying "OMG I can't run this really sh*t sh*t on max settings". Edited January 13, 2009 by oc student Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) lol at these dud fanboys , 'the game runs great' hahahaha Yea funny huh. I don't understand where they get that idea? Especially since they don't own a xbox 360 and don't compare it vs. a 5 grand computer. Hmmm, noobs? C didn't understand what clock speed vs new editions was, then he started stating he had problems although he did say it was perfectly fine. I guess that means he doesn't know what side of the fence he is on for this thread . Go Team, Rockstar f*cked Us! Only an idiot would try to explain how the Xbox 360 playing off a DVD plays fine vs a computer with nice specs. It doesn't work because it just doesn't. Rockstar didn't code it right, and they don't plan to fix it. That's the cold hard truth, until you understand that, your on the other team. Oh man, you talk so much sh*t lol. Again, the DVD doesnt play GTA IV anymore, it optionally installs, and has less problems that way, and don't pretend the xbox doesn't suffer the same problems (and you cant fix or upgrade to fix them) and then some. And, the xbox is not running anything even nearly remotely close to windows in the background... That dashboard is some XML and a couple of images and mostly rendered color, not images... It's tiny. you are not going to win, and you are more and more looking like an xbox fanboy to actually make that argument and try to pre-determine the opinions people will have of anyone who dares to contradict your dribble. I'm really not being rude here - seriously - you look like a fanboy for defending the xbox version of this game against the PC version. We already covered the xbox, and it meets my unofficial requirements of 1066mhz FSB and 533mhz ram, it exceeds them... Edited January 13, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oc student Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 lol at these dud fanboys , 'the game runs great' hahahaha Yea funny huh. I don't understand where they get that idea? Especially since they don't own a xbox 360 and don't compare it vs. a 5 grand computer. Hmmm, noobs? C didn't understand what clock speed vs new editions was, then he started stating he had problems although he did say it was perfectly fine. I guess that means he doesn't know what side of the fence he is on for this thread . Go Team, Rockstar f*cked Us! Only an idiot would try to explain how the Xbox 360 playing off a DVD plays fine vs a computer with nice specs. It doesn't work because it just doesn't. Rockstar didn't code it right, and they don't plan to fix it. That's the cold hard truth, until you understand that, your on the other team. Oh man, you talk so much sh*t lol. Again, the DVD doesnt play GTA IV anymore, it optionally installs, and has less problems that way, and don't pretend the xbox doesn't suffer the same problems (and you cant fix or upgrade to fix them) and then some. And, the xbox is not running anything even nearly remotely close to windows in the background... That dashboard is some XML and a couple of images and mostly rendered color, not images... It's tiny. Yes the Xbox 360 is what is it. A box with no sh*t going on inside it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 C, I was playing with ya. It is common knowledge to know how it should work. However if we got a chance to look at their code and examine, I'll bet ya there is a lot of code that needs revising. Ok, so it's time for me to pull out the BIG GUNS, and I will. For anyone that believes this game runs fine try and stop this, it won't be easy. Remember, we don't like to compare the computer vs console, but I know a lot of you will agree the xbox 360 is outdated, am I right? Well so the new computers have better specs, even if we spend 5 grand on a computer and this game still doesn't work.... ok? That sounds like me, but hey here it is! Xbox 360 plays GTA 4 from a DVD, yes folks a DVD. Now any geniuses in here will say right away. How so? If the engine is so power hungry, what the f*ck is wrong here? Well we all should know running a game from the DVD and retriving constant files from it will be disasterious. But, Rockstar did it, now without it playing off a DVD, they didn't. WTF is wrong here? Am I the only one to see this? Please examine, anyone that thinks they are smart enough to answer. For team, Rockstar f*cked Us. I think we won! XBox installs GTA now because of all of the problems it had off of the DVD. And, even off of the DVD, the console is not running windows at the same time and handling other things in the background. Xbox background noise is minimal, and on it's OWN core, remember? Our processors are not so lucky to be configured in that way. No win. lol noVa, here is a good explanation of LOD: Go into IV, go about 30 feet away from a car, start turning down view distance, watch the car turn low detail > that is an LOD, a level of detail. Or just look at some mid-range buildings and do the same. The low quality ones (a few levels of detail, not just hi and lo, in IV its hi lo lower lowest and some cases lowest-est ) are the LOD, as you get closer, the LOD is replaced by its SDM (standard def model, other names for this too... Parent is popular...) But that's it, simple as that, it is a much less expensive model (resources) that is used at a far-clip (since far away it can only be made of a few pixels anyway) See, the further you get, the less pixels make up an object, so not only would it be crazy to render the whole city high-def, it would be pointless as well. Much like how a 1680x1050 resolution wastes any view and detail level above 41 and 81 (as far as I can tell, iirc, and it may come down to whose eyes are looking as well) Ah no, your completely wrong, the game doesnt install all of its content to the xbox 360. It's almost all referenced to the DVD. However you can install it if you wish, but I have never seen any DVD problems. And it has been like that since it came out. I don't know where you got your facts but your completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 C, I was playing with ya. It is common knowledge to know how it should work. However if we got a chance to look at their code and examine, I'll bet ya there is a lot of code that needs revising. Ok, so it's time for me to pull out the BIG GUNS, and I will. For anyone that believes this game runs fine try and stop this, it won't be easy. Remember, we don't like to compare the computer vs console, but I know a lot of you will agree the xbox 360 is outdated, am I right? Well so the new computers have better specs, even if we spend 5 grand on a computer and this game still doesn't work.... ok? That sounds like me, but hey here it is! Xbox 360 plays GTA 4 from a DVD, yes folks a DVD. Now any geniuses in here will say right away. How so? If the engine is so power hungry, what the f*ck is wrong here? Well we all should know running a game from the DVD and retriving constant files from it will be disasterious. But, Rockstar did it, now without it playing off a DVD, they didn't. WTF is wrong here? Am I the only one to see this? Please examine, anyone that thinks they are smart enough to answer. For team, Rockstar f*cked Us. I think we won! XBox installs GTA now because of all of the problems it had off of the DVD. And, even off of the DVD, the console is not running windows at the same time and handling other things in the background. Xbox background noise is minimal, and on it's OWN core, remember? Our processors are not so lucky to be configured in that way. No win. lol noVa, here is a good explanation of LOD: Go into IV, go about 30 feet away from a car, start turning down view distance, watch the car turn low detail > that is an LOD, a level of detail. Or just look at some mid-range buildings and do the same. The low quality ones (a few levels of detail, not just hi and lo, in IV its hi lo lower lowest and some cases lowest-est ) are the LOD, as you get closer, the LOD is replaced by its SDM (standard def model, other names for this too... Parent is popular...) But that's it, simple as that, it is a much less expensive model (resources) that is used at a far-clip (since far away it can only be made of a few pixels anyway) See, the further you get, the less pixels make up an object, so not only would it be crazy to render the whole city high-def, it would be pointless as well. Much like how a 1680x1050 resolution wastes any view and detail level above 41 and 81 (as far as I can tell, iirc, and it may come down to whose eyes are looking as well) Ah no, your completely wrong, the game doesnt install all of its content to the xbox 360. It's almost all referenced to the DVD. However you can install it if you wish, but I have never seen any DVD problems. And it has been like that since it came out. I don't know where you got your facts but your completely wrong. No, Im completely right. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=...eze&btnG=Search Go ahead, search all you want for any issue complained about here, you'll find it on the 360, and some on the PS3 too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 lol at these dud fanboys , 'the game runs great' hahahaha Yea funny huh. I don't understand where they get that idea? Especially since they don't own a xbox 360 and don't compare it vs. a 5 grand computer. Hmmm, noobs? C didn't understand what clock speed vs new editions was, then he started stating he had problems although he did say it was perfectly fine. I guess that means he doesn't know what side of the fence he is on for this thread . Go Team, Rockstar f*cked Us! Only an idiot would try to explain how the Xbox 360 playing off a DVD plays fine vs a computer with nice specs. It doesn't work because it just doesn't. Rockstar didn't code it right, and they don't plan to fix it. That's the cold hard truth, until you understand that, your on the other team. Oh man, you talk so much sh*t lol. Again, the DVD doesnt play GTA IV anymore, it optionally installs, and has less problems that way, and don't pretend the xbox doesn't suffer the same problems (and you cant fix or upgrade to fix them) and then some. And, the xbox is not running anything even nearly remotely close to windows in the background... That dashboard is some XML and a couple of images and mostly rendered color, not images... It's tiny. you are not going to win, and you are more and more looking like an xbox fanboy to actually make that argument and try to pre-determine the opinions people will have of anyone who dares to contradict your dribble. I'm really not being rude here - seriously - you look like a fanboy for defending the xbox version of this game against the PC version. We already covered the xbox, and it meets my unofficial requirements of 1066mhz FSB and 533mhz ram, it exceeds them... Your right, I won't win an argument with you if you can say whatever you like, I know way more than you could possibly with the xbox 360, and you fight to say things that AREN'T true. Trying to act smart doesn't work against me. But anyway, if you want to keep on I'm o.k. with that. We have to write a lot of crap to get to 1000 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 C, I was playing with ya. It is common knowledge to know how it should work. However if we got a chance to look at their code and examine, I'll bet ya there is a lot of code that needs revising. Ok, so it's time for me to pull out the BIG GUNS, and I will. For anyone that believes this game runs fine try and stop this, it won't be easy. Remember, we don't like to compare the computer vs console, but I know a lot of you will agree the xbox 360 is outdated, am I right? Well so the new computers have better specs, even if we spend 5 grand on a computer and this game still doesn't work.... ok? That sounds like me, but hey here it is! Xbox 360 plays GTA 4 from a DVD, yes folks a DVD. Now any geniuses in here will say right away. How so? If the engine is so power hungry, what the f*ck is wrong here? Well we all should know running a game from the DVD and retriving constant files from it will be disasterious. But, Rockstar did it, now without it playing off a DVD, they didn't. WTF is wrong here? Am I the only one to see this? Please examine, anyone that thinks they are smart enough to answer. For team, Rockstar f*cked Us. I think we won! XBox installs GTA now because of all of the problems it had off of the DVD. And, even off of the DVD, the console is not running windows at the same time and handling other things in the background. Xbox background noise is minimal, and on it's OWN core, remember? Our processors are not so lucky to be configured in that way. No win. lol noVa, here is a good explanation of LOD: Go into IV, go about 30 feet away from a car, start turning down view distance, watch the car turn low detail > that is an LOD, a level of detail. Or just look at some mid-range buildings and do the same. The low quality ones (a few levels of detail, not just hi and lo, in IV its hi lo lower lowest and some cases lowest-est ) are the LOD, as you get closer, the LOD is replaced by its SDM (standard def model, other names for this too... Parent is popular...) But that's it, simple as that, it is a much less expensive model (resources) that is used at a far-clip (since far away it can only be made of a few pixels anyway) See, the further you get, the less pixels make up an object, so not only would it be crazy to render the whole city high-def, it would be pointless as well. Much like how a 1680x1050 resolution wastes any view and detail level above 41 and 81 (as far as I can tell, iirc, and it may come down to whose eyes are looking as well) Ah no, your completely wrong, the game doesnt install all of its content to the xbox 360. It's almost all referenced to the DVD. However you can install it if you wish, but I have never seen any DVD problems. And it has been like that since it came out. I don't know where you got your facts but your completely wrong. No, Im completely right. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=...eze&btnG=Search Go ahead, search all you want for any issue complained about here, you'll find it on the 360, and some on the PS3 too... yea, I played for hours too, until I got freezing. That's the processor or gpu getting way way too hot. Red ring of death. Yes, I remind you, I went through hell to keep the console working. And that was the console, not GTA 4 for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastsource Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Some one is f*cking with your head if you think you can render all that sh*t in GTA 4 without those shadows which in real life would appear to be normal since there are bumps and ruts in the ashpalt. f*ck on that R* f*cked us up team. Oh and even if R* included soft shadows you dumbasses wuold still be whinging and saying "OMG I can't run this really sh*t sh*t on max settings". So you call these shadows ok? Maybe just take a look at other games. Somehow they managed to code them there in a less ugly way. Same goes for the dithering stuff. Somehow they managed to do real alpha blending. And the geometry pop-in. Don't tell me that the floor right under my feet has to unload because it is too far away. The LOD switching is just bugged. And the "no AA" feature. Somehow Crysis managed to get this one right as well, while some claim it is not possible. Again, I am not blaming R* for not being the best graphics coders that walk the earth. That can happen. But maybe provide a demo next time or real trailers and screenshots. And maybe don't advertise the graphics as to be super perfect. Feeling f*cked has a lot to do with making false claims about the quality of the game in screenshots and the like creating wrong expectations. It is not about the game not being the absolute perfect in every aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Some one is f*cking with your head if you think you can render all that sh*t in GTA 4 without those shadows which in real life would appear to be normal since there are bumps and ruts in the ashpalt. f*ck on that R* f*cked us up team. Oh and even if R* included soft shadows you dumbasses wuold still be whinging and saying "OMG I can't run this really sh*t sh*t on max settings". So you call these shadows ok? Maybe just take a look at other games. Somehow they managed to code them there in a less ugly way. Same goes for the dithering stuff. Somehow they managed to do real alpha blending. And the geometry pop-in. Don't tell me that the floor right under my feet has to unload because it is too far away. The LOD switching is just bugged. And the "no AA" feature. Somehow Crysis managed to get this one right as well, while some claim it is not possible. Again, I am not blaming R* for not being the best graphics coders that walk the earth. That can happen. But maybe provide a demo next time or real trailers and screenshots. And maybe don't advertise the graphics as to be super perfect. Feeling f*cked has a lot to do with making false claims about the quality of the game in screenshots and the like creating wrong expectations. It is not about the game not being the absolute perfect in every aspect. The President of the company said, it plays better and looks better on the PC. That was a huge false statement. 4 months before the game even came out. Look what happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) Rockstar knew long before they released this that the minimum and recommended requirements weren't enough to play the game properly. So do you think we were deliberately misled by Rockstar, or were they just unaware of how poorly GTA4 the game actually was? No, they were just unaware of how many console gamers think they know how to use a pc. QUOTED FOR THE TRUTH You can spot them out of a crowd, with a lazy "this game sucks I can't play it . my mom bought me the best see I own a blah blah blah" mentality. as apposed to telling you what tweaks they have tried (yeah if you are pc gamer, you don't b*tch mush about that, in fact you live for that). My favorite is " I bought a 20000 dollar video card and overclocked it six times it's capabilities and this stupid game does not work" I giggle at that stuff. Newbs. Edited January 13, 2009 by TruXter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer2359 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) K guys, let's look at the Rockstar f*cked Us team. Team - Rockstar f*cked Us losersmith knownothing crappyrig celeronmark pentium2owner 512mb_ramkid xboxspecialist rantjohn dualcoreharry 7200gs pentium3whynot lierted loser_imtheone loser_n_lier consolelover 150buckspc 2001gamingpc ROFL!! LOL that is awesome xD But yeah R* did screw a lot of us over with the minimum and recommended system specs. I mean like wtf a 8600GT in there with a ATI HD3850 for recommended video card, last time I checked they don't even compare. Maybe R* hasn't learned how to use a computer yet lol I also bet they are just upgrading to a pentium 3 processor and windows 98SE Edited January 13, 2009 by flyer2359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo1508 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 no dedicated server support Multiplayer issues (kicked back to lobby etc) no anti cheat poor server admin controls poor control mapping Many Popular game controllers not supported (including wheels and pedals etc) heavily unoptimized (DUH) RGSC bloatware Window live bloatware Reflections tied to resolutuon poor graphic options (they didnt want to confuse us lol) missing textures pop ins poor management of gpu (leans heavily on cpu) No AA (this is a big one for most people) Poor cpu optimization (3 cores) poor shadows (flickering also) minimum sys requirements (lies) windows 64bit support (lies) catalyst 8.12 optimized driver (lies) no sli support crossfire support is poor If you can honestly sit there a defend the sh*t that you have been fed then i must say 'I have a blueprint of your brain, and I'm going to build a f*ckwit' QUOTE THAT FOR THE TRUTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0goldeneye0 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 you make it say rockstar actually had sex with ya. We should say, "Rockstar disapointed us, Therefore we hate them." just making it sound nicer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 no dedicated server supportMultiplayer issues (kicked back to lobby etc) no anti cheat poor server admin controls poor control mapping Many Popular game controllers not supported (including wheels and pedals etc) heavily unoptimized (DUH) RGSC bloatware Window live bloatware Reflections tied to resolutuon poor graphic options (they didnt want to confuse us lol) missing textures pop ins poor management of gpu (leans heavily on cpu) No AA (this is a big one for most people) Poor cpu optimization (3 cores) poor shadows (flickering also) minimum sys requirements (lies) windows 64bit support (lies) catalyst 8.12 optimized driver (lies) no sli support crossfire support is poor If you can honestly sit there a defend the sh*t that you have been fed then i must say 'I have a blueprint of your brain, and I'm going to build a f*ckwit' QUOTE THAT FOR THE TRUTH Great to see a list. But I still am very angry. Can they win my respect back? Seems not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfrock89 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Sigh.. I cannot help but always feel like I am always playing the game at 800x600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namdomain Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Rockstar knew long before they released this that the minimum and recommended requirements weren't enough to play the game properly. So do you think we were deliberately misled by Rockstar, or were they just unaware of how poorly GTA4 the game actually was? They are screwing us alright with PC version. I can only get 11 Fps on my geforce 9600gtx Nvidia card. They are just trying to trick you to buy some sort of latest hardware, some latest supercomputer or blah! There is nothing fancy in gta 4. Let me tell you why, if I could just disable shadows and run on a lower system requriement then I could easily get 30Fps or more to get a descent gameplay. However they forgot to put that in options. Dont ask me why, I already said, Intel hired them. Regards, Admin http://www.nam.am Free Domain name and Free Hosting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 what is this i see, a whining thread? can i join the fun? now now you guys, R* worked hard on emulating a crappy xbox game on a PC, give them some credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo1508 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I give them full credit, the got my money and i couldnt refund it! hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoreMaster Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 This thread is still open? I imagined that after all these whiny ppl that the admin would lock this thread guess not Nag Nag Nag Do your self a favor and Everyone in here who is complaining just doesnt know how hard it actually is to make a sandbox game like this and to play as good as it does its a miracle. I get almost 40 Fps anytime during the game. Yes i get slow downs and pop ins but ALL GTA's Do this. Few patches will help with the optimizing but the pop ins? nah i dont think so they will be heavily reduced but they will still be there no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 This thread is still open? I imagined that after all these whiny ppl that the admin would lock this thread guess not Nag Nag Nag Do your self a favor and Everyone in here who is complaining just doesnt know how hard it actually is to make a sandbox game like this and to play as good as it does its a miracle. I get almost 40 Fps anytime during the game. Yes i get slow downs and pop ins but ALL GTA's Do this. Few patches will help with the optimizing but the pop ins? nah i dont think so they will be heavily reduced but they will still be there no matter what. You know why they made 500 million in sales the first month for the xbox 360? It was a miracle game, done very well. I was hoping for the computer as well but I guess every company has it's greed and eventually losses heart to the game. It's also funny, but all the people that believe the game works fine, now of them claim to be coders, none, maybe they will try to backup their claim and state they are, but by now I don't believe you lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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