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Tyla

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Jim "The Fitz" Fitzgerald is a senior member of The Lost M.C that is seen in the L&D trailer. After the famous diamond deal goes wrong and Johnny escapes with the money, Ray Boccino and Phil Bell order Niko to go after some bikers making trouble in East Holland. Now your proberly wondering where Jim Fitzgerald comes into all of this. Jim is the treasurer for The Lost, as seen in this screencapture by Mafioso86

 

user posted image

 

I also have this screen capture below,

 

user posted image

 

Is it just me, or does it look like Jim is in East Holland? This would lead me to assume that Jim was based in East Holland with his "crew". Anyway, Niko confronts two Bikers, they get into a chase, Niko kills them both. After this event, though, appearing on the Liberty Tree website is a news article called Subway Death. It goes on to say Two bodies have so far been recovered. One being identified as Jim Fitzgerald, a member of the Alderney chapter of The Lost. "Jim Fitzgerald" is also credited with a voice actor in the back of the Game Manual.

 

This is the only thing I don't understand. A screen shot of the mission cutscene from Gta4.net shows two Bikers, white bikers specifically. How could it have been Jim Fitzgerald who was killed?.

 

user posted image

 

This is more for the theory that Johnny's story begins before Niko's arrival, or the two stories cross in a way.

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i like coffee enemas

Maybe Rockstar didn't have any other plans for him then changed their minds and changed his appearence for TLAD?

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TECHN9CiAN
Maybe Rockstar didn't have any other plans for him then changed their minds and changed his appearence for TLAD?

Yeah. Also, I think his new appearance is a "Token".

 

Maybe the new Jim is cutting deals with the gangs in Holland... or an "undercover" for them.

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Omnia sunt Communia

He doesn't look ethnic to me, more just white in the dark. The one in the background of the GTA IV picture could easily be Jim, if you shaved all his hair off.

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He doesn't look ethnic to me, more just white in the dark. The one in the background of the GTA IV picture could easily be Jim, if you shaved all his hair off.

yer shave off his hair and you have your man

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He doesn't look ethnic to me, more just white in the dark. The one in the background of the GTA IV picture could easily be Jim, if you shaved all his hair off.

yer shave off his hair and you have your man

Jim is the guy in the foreground though. wink.gif

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Omnia sunt Communia
He doesn't look ethnic to me, more just white in the dark. The one in the background of the GTA IV picture could easily be Jim, if you shaved all his hair off.

yer shave off his hair and you have your man

Jim is the guy in the foreground though. wink.gif

Where does it state that though?

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He doesn't look ethnic to me, more just white in the dark. The one in the background of the GTA IV picture could easily be Jim, if you shaved all his hair off.

yer shave off his hair and you have your man

Jim is the guy in the foreground though. wink.gif

Where does it state that though?

Well only the Liberty Tree website states it. I also checked out the video for that mission and he didn't look anything like him so I'm thinking the bald guy is the closest match and I'm thinking that is him. Maybe it's because of the lighting and shades.

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JOSEPH X

 

Is it just me, or does it look like Jim is in East Holland? This would lead me to assume that Jim was based in East Holland with his "crew".

The location of that bit of dialogue in the trailer is at the foot of an apt. block in alderney. It`s not far from the lost HQ, Just turn left down Aspdin Dr. and it`s the first tall apt. block on your right. Two lost members will be in exactly the same spot Jim and Johnny are talking, if you check it out

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He doesn't look ethnic to me, more just white in the dark. The one in the background of the GTA IV picture could easily be Jim, if you shaved all his hair off.

yer shave off his hair and you have your man

Jim is the guy in the foreground though. wink.gif

Where does it state that though?

If you look through the PC version's files it is also the model name in the ped component files.

I have coded a player swap asi that lets me use either Jim or Johnny so I do know this to be the case.

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JOSEPH X

Have any of you guys thought there could be more than one Jim in the lost?

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Have any of you guys thought there could be more than one Jim in the lost?

Yeah. Maybe. But only one Jim Fitzgerald.

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Have any of you guys thought there could be more than one Jim in the lost?

 

 

mos def.

and the jim that is mentioned in the trailer IS afro-american. whoever says this brown skinned jim is jim FITZGERALD?

 

there have to be more jims.

 

just have a look how the names "lenny" or "mitch" or "ray" repeat in gta 4 and they're all different persons.

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Have any of you guys thought there could be more than one Jim in the lost?

 

 

mos def.

and the jim that is mentioned in the trailer IS afro-american. whoever says this brown skinned jim is jim FITZGERALD?

 

there have to be more jims.

 

just have a look how the names "lenny" or "mitch" or "ray" repeat in gta 4 and they're all different persons.

The fact that the patch on his jacket says "The Fitz."

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Have any of you guys thought there could be more than one Jim in the lost?

 

 

mos def.

and the jim that is mentioned in the trailer IS afro-american. whoever says this brown skinned jim is jim FITZGERALD?

 

there have to be more jims.

 

just have a look how the names "lenny" or "mitch" or "ray" repeat in gta 4 and they're all different persons.

The fact that the patch on his jacket says "The Fitz."

ok, just seen it. then this is quite poor, rockstar turning a white into a black man.

 

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Have any of you guys thought there could be more than one Jim in the lost?

 

 

mos def.

and the jim that is mentioned in the trailer IS afro-american. whoever says this brown skinned jim is jim FITZGERALD?

 

there have to be more jims.

 

just have a look how the names "lenny" or "mitch" or "ray" repeat in gta 4 and they're all different persons.

The fact that the patch on his jacket says "The Fitz."

ok, just seen it. then this is quite poor, rockstar turning a white into a black man.

I'm gonna have some faith in Rockstar and say that they know what they're doing.

They're probably reading through some of the fan discussions on issues like this as we speak.

Maybe it'll be fixed? Maybe it's a different Jim...I'm sure they'll think of all that.

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Omnia sunt Communia
Have any of you guys thought there could be more than one Jim in the lost?

 

 

mos def.

and the jim that is mentioned in the trailer IS afro-american. whoever says this brown skinned jim is jim FITZGERALD?

 

there have to be more jims.

 

just have a look how the names "lenny" or "mitch" or "ray" repeat in gta 4 and they're all different persons.

The fact that the patch on his jacket says "The Fitz."

ok, just seen it. then this is quite poor, rockstar turning a white into a black man.

They did a better job than Micheal Jackson's plastic surgeon did. wink.gif

 

I agree with Joseph. Though I can't honestly see Jim from the trailer being black to me, most of his appearances are in poor lighting. Even if he is, I'm pretty sure he'll be a token character. The general perception of bikers is that they're all racists; adding Jim to the fray would destroy this image.

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i like coffee enemas

 

Have any of you guys thought there could be more than one Jim in the lost?

 

 

mos def.

and the jim that is mentioned in the trailer IS afro-american. whoever says this brown skinned jim is jim FITZGERALD?

 

there have to be more jims.

 

just have a look how the names "lenny" or "mitch" or "ray" repeat in gta 4 and they're all different persons.

The fact that the patch on his jacket says "The Fitz."

ok, just seen it. then this is quite poor, rockstar turning a white into a black man.

They did a better job than Micheal Jackson's plastic surgeon did. wink.gif

 

I agree with Joseph. Though I can't honestly see Jim from the trailer being black to me, most of his appearances are in poor lighting. Even if he is, I'm pretty sure he'll be a token character. The general perception of bikers is that they're all racists; adding Jim to the fray would destroy this image.

 

What about Clay? He's black and he's in The Lost...

 

I recon he'll get a lot of crap throughout the storyline though.

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The LCPD website says that Jim Fitzgerald is Deceased. It also says that he was loyal to Johnny and opposed to the war with the Angles of Death. He is a Senior member of the cub too.

 

Edit: It says he was charged with Grand Larceny. Isn't that a money crime? I guess this adds to the treasuer job.

Edited by thecommander

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The LCPD website says that Jim Fitzgerald is Deceased. It also says that he was loyal to Johnny and opposed to the war with the Angles of Death. He is a Senior member of the cub too.

 

Yup. It isn't called The Lost and DAMNED for no reason. We already know that he majority of the characters are going to get whacked or die of whatever at some point during TLAD. So face it, the great and wonderful Jim Fitzgerald may not be with us for too long. It IS the same Jim from GTA IV, just with a different model to make him look more 'key characterish'.

Edited by leelee862

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This is what the LCPD webisite says about some of the Lost members:

 

 

    Surname: Klebitz

    First Name: Johnny

    Age: 34

    Place of Birth: Acter, Alderney

    Affiliations: Member of the Alderney chapter of the Lost OMG

    Criminal Record: 1991 - Grand Theft Auto

    1993 - Assault

    1994 - Manslaughter

    2000 - Parole Violation

    Notes: - Believed to be second in command of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost Outlaw Motorcycle Gang

    - Assumed control of the gang when its head, Billy Grey, was incarcerated

    - Exact nature of the relationship between Grey and Klebitz is unknown

    - Unclear who will assume control of the gang when Grey is released from prison

    - Under his command, the Lost OMG have been able to co-exist with the Angels of Death OMG in relative peace

    - Ties to known South Bohan drug dealer, Elizabeta Torres

 

    Surname: Grey

    First Name: Billy

    Age: 37

    Place of Birth: Acter, Alderney

    Affiliations: Member of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost OMG

    Criminal Record: 1986 - Hijacking

    1987 - Assault

    1989 - Murder

    2002 - Racketeering

    Notes: - Head of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost Outlaw Motorcycle Gang

    - Recently convicted of drug related felony and sentenced to rehabilitation

    - Johnny Klebitz is believed to have taken control of the Chapter while Grey was incarcerated

    - Some of the Lost's Alderney Chapter's worst confrontation to date with the Angels of Death OMG occurred under his command

 

 

  

    Surname: Fitzgerald

    First Name: Jim

    Age: 45

    Place of Birth: Acter, Alderney

    Affiliations: Member of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost OMG

    Criminal Record: 1987 - Assault

    1989 - Hijacking

    1993 - Grand Larceny

    1999 - Unlawful Manufacture Methamphetamine

    2005 - Grand Larceny

    Notes: - Senior member of the Alderney Chapeter of the Lost OMG

    - Believed to be loyal to Johnny Klebitz, the acting leader while Billy Grey was incarcerated

    - One of the oldest bikers in the Lost

    - Believed to have been against the war with the Angels of Death OMG

 

    Surname: Jeremy

    First Name: Brian

    Age: 39

    Place of Birth: Acter, Alderney

    Affiliations: Member of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost OMG

    Criminal Record: 1985 - Grand Theft Auto

    1986 - Grand Larceny

    1989 - Murder

    2005 - Possession Controlled Substance Methamphetamine

    Notes: - Senior member of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost OMG

    - Believed to be fiercely loyal to the incarcerated head, Billy Grey

    - Rumored to be unhappy with the Lost's uneasy truce with the Angels of Death OMG

 

 

    Surname: Butler

    First Name: Ashley

    Age: 27

    Place of Birth: Acter, Alderney

    Affiliations: Linked to the Lost OMG and the Alderney Based Pegorino Crime Syndicate

    Criminal Record: 2001 - Possession of Controlled Substance Cocaine

    Notes: - "Old Lady" of Billy Grey, head of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost Outlaw Motorcycle Gang

    - Seen with Ray Boccino, a Capo in the Alderney Based Pegorino Crime Syndicate

    - Believed to be a conduit between these two organizations

    Surname: Michaels

    First Name: Jason

    Age: 29

    Place of Birth: Acter, Alderney

    Affiliations: Member of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost OMG

    Criminal Record: 1997 - Grand Larceny

    1999 - Hijacking

    2003 - Possession of Controlled Substance Methamphetamine

    Notes: - Recently patched in member of the Lost OMG

    - Often seen with young women possibly making money as a pimp

    - Close to the acting leader of his chapter, Johnny Klebitz

    - Recently sighted in the Hove Beach area with Anna Faustin, daughter of Russian gangster Mikhail Faustin

 

    Surname: Sharpe

    First Name: Leila

    Age: 30

    Place of Birth: Acter, Alderney

    Affiliations: Known Associate of the Lost OMG

    Criminal Record: 2004 - Petit Larceny

    2005 - Possession of Controlled Substance Methamphetamine

    Notes: - Believed to be the "Old Lady" of Johnny Klebitz, a Senior member of the Lost OMG

    - Believed to be a methamphetamine addict

 

    Surname: Thorpe

    First Name: Terry

    Age: 31

    Place of Birth: Acter, Alderney

    Affiliations: Member of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost OMG

    Criminal Record: 1997 - Grand Theft Auto

    1999 - Manslaughter

    2005 - Possession of Controlled Substance Methamphetamine

    Notes: - Member of the Alderney Chapter of the Lost OMG

    - Believed to be running a methamphetamine lab

 

 

 

BTW, Sorry for the big post. sad.gif

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nixion

I just wanted to point out something i found,

As you can see Rockstar altered Jim's apperence since he now wears an American Flag Bandanna in this screenshot:

 

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/viewe...ticle&id=209744

 

He can also been seen as the guy who is dead on the ground in this picture: (Compair the cameo pants and shoes)

 

http://media.rockstargames.com/flies/TLAD/.../The-Lost-7.jpg

 

From this you can rule that the Angles of Death killed Jim, or ( and it looks like this is more likely in the screenshot) Johnny kills Jim becasue he's working with the Angles of Death.

 

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KGBeast

Fitz is killed by Niko in IV. This is confirmed on the in game website. Not the AoD, not Johnny.

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TECHN9CiAN

i'm still not convinced. plus, how do you guys know there aren't 2 jims?

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ChrisMathers3501
i'm still not convinced. plus, how do you guys know there aren't 2 jims?

Two Jim "The Fitz" Fitzgeralds in the Lost MC?

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