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FenixDelta753
Ok hows this

 

CPU

 

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600

 

Graphics

 

HD Radeon 4830

 

grand total of $174.96

I really recommend you the 4830, I have it in a 3800+ dual core and the game runs at very smooth.

Wow thats good, plus the 5600+ is much better than the 3800+ and i'm only going to be running it at 1440x900, could you post your benchmark results?

 

could you post your benchmark results?

Just made it:

 

Stats

Average FPS: 23.20

Duration: 37.67 sec

CPU usage: 87%

System memory usage: 76%

Video memory usage: 66%

 

Graphic options

Resolution: 1280 x 960 (75 Hz)

Qualità texture: Medium

Qualità rendering: High

Distanza visuale: 10

Distanza dettagli: 10

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Service Pack 3

Graphic Card: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

Driver video version: 6.14.10.6891

Audio: SoundMAX HD Audio

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+

 

ID file: benchmark.cli

 

 

I can guarantee that the 4830 is a really good choise. Before it I had a 7600GS (yea that sux) and I had 5-10 fps. Now I have 20-30, always with the same CPU. With the 5600 it should run pretty cool. icon14.gif

This is what I recommend  biggrin.gif

 

For CPU I would recommend this:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115200

 

For GPU I would recommend  this:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814133253

Does that graphics card even support pixel shaders?

I lol'd hard at that GPU....my dad's old laptop has one in it...can run Elder Scrolls Morrowind on medium tounge.gif

I should also add that i have a 19" WS (1440x900) I was going to get the quad core phenom and a decent card that would fit in my $160 budget

Ignore ANY Pennons until AMD release the new AMD Pehnom 2 chips.

What? You mean the Phenom II yeah? Because they are already out, or is there some new chip coming out?

FenixDelta753
could you post your benchmark results?

Just made it:

 

Stats

Average FPS: 23.20

Duration: 37.67 sec

CPU usage: 87%

System memory usage: 76%

Video memory usage: 66%

 

Graphic options

Resolution: 1280 x 960 (75 Hz)

Qualità texture: Medium

Qualità rendering: High

Distanza visuale: 10

Distanza dettagli: 10

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Service Pack 3

Graphic Card: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

Driver video version: 6.14.10.6891

Audio: SoundMAX HD Audio

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+

 

ID file: benchmark.cli

 

 

I can guarantee that the 4830 is a really good choise. Before it I had a 7600GS (yea that sux) and I had 5-10 fps. Now I have 20-30, always with the same CPU. With the 5600 it should run pretty cool. icon14.gif

O wow 23 FPS ain't bad, but i bet with my processor i could get at least 30. I also noticed that you aren't using the latest 8.2 catalyst drivers, you should try them out then run the benchmark again.

FenixDelta753

my new psu gets here tomorrow. I'll hook it all up and install the drivers then play gta and let u know how it goes. One thing I should mention is that I'm running it off of my external hd

I don't know how that'll work. What do u guys think

 

my new psu gets here tomorrow. I'll hook it all up and install the drivers then play gta and let u know how it goes.       One thing I should mention is that I'm running it off of my external hd

I don't know how that'll work.  What do u guys think

That depends what speed is it and how is it connected to your pc? Sata? Usb?

 

Another question, are you doing a fresh os install or no?

FenixDelta753
my new psu gets here tomorrow. I'll hook it all up and install the drivers then play gta and let u know how it goes.       One thing I should mention is that I'm running it off of my external hd

I don't know how that'll work.  What do u guys think

That depends what speed is it and how is it connected to your pc? Sata? Usb?

 

Another question, are you doing a fresh os install or no?

no not a frsesh os install my os is onn my internal drive and i keep games and stuff on my usb drive

my new psu gets here tomorrow. I'll hook it all up and install the drivers then play gta and let u know how it goes.       One thing I should mention is that I'm running it off of my external hd

I don't know how that'll work.  What do u guys think

That depends what speed is it and how is it connected to your pc? Sata? Usb?

 

Another question, are you doing a fresh os install or no?

no not a frsesh os install my os is onn my internal drive and i keep games and stuff on my usb drive

Well usb is pretty slow for running games. No fresh install? Is that since you upgraded? It's always a good idea too.

 

Well usb is pretty slow for running games. No fresh install? Is that since you upgraded? It's always a good idea too.

Slow is a understatement, 51Mb/s Read (Assuming the USB 2 Controller is actually decent and peaks at the max 480Mbps) is slower than IDE let alone SATA.

When I installed GTA IV to a 97Mb/s Read Seagate Drive I still got pop-in, its only since I put it onto the RAID-0 that all the data flys into the world.. smile.gif

christinme7890

haha, i think you missed the part where the OP said he had 100+ dollars to spend. The 5k he would spend for the uber hardware would run close to buying half a car....and a car runs faster. For the money hit up AMD. You can't go wrong for price per speed. Yes it isn't as fast as intels i7 but i7 cost a ton and the mobos cost a ton. Get a amd phenom for 175 and be done with it. Also i played GTA4 on a 8800 gt and 6000+ amd 64 and it ran on medium specs with some advancements and got a nice average speed of around 40 fps. If you overclock you could get better. I am waiting for the am3 socket before i upgrade. I though about upgrading to phenom 2 and its 3.0 ghz and i might still but am3 will come out soon and will support the better ram. If you are on a budget get amd and also nvidia 8800gt. the 8800gt is still a great card and can still play all the games though it is not future proof now. Years ago it was future proof as we can see now...but in another year it won't do that well.

 

Well usb is pretty slow for running games. No fresh install? Is that since you upgraded? It's always a good idea too.

Slow is a understatement, 51Mb/s Read (Assuming the USB 2 Controller is actually decent and peaks at the max 480Mbps) is slower than IDE let alone SATA.

When I installed GTA IV to a 97Mb/s Read Seagate Drive I still got pop-in, its only since I put it onto the RAID-0 that all the data flys into the world.. smile.gif

Ya next time I need specific information I'll refer to you sly.gif

 

It makes my job easier. smile.gif

 

Well I did do a fresh install about 3 months ago but I thought you meant just for this game...

 

 

So I will have to install it on my internal HDD?

well the game does work on a DVD for the xbox 360, however I highly suggest your hard drive whatsthat.gif. Refer to the other guy for more assistance. turn.gif

 

With the fresh os question:

I always suggest "Deep Freeze" in this case. Maybe you should at least look at it. But being that this doesn't really need a fresh os install you could just ignore me. lol.gif

Edited by ZaCkOX
FenixDelta753
Well I did do a fresh install about 3 months ago but I thought you meant just for this game...

 

 

So I will have to install it on my internal HDD?

well the game does work on a DVD for the xbox 360, however I highly suggest your hard drive whatsthat.gif. Refer to the other guy for more assistance. turn.gif

 

With the fresh os question:

I always suggest "Deep Freeze" in this case. Maybe you should at least look at it. But being that this doesn't really need a fresh os install you could just ignore me. lol.gif

What would deep freeze do for me?

Well there is a lot to using deep freeze. I need to make a video so people can see why it is so good. You could read about it, but you really need a hands on experience. With a fresh install it's great to first get the hang of it. I don't recommend installing it without doing a fresh os install.

 

Your question:

 

I have recently bought a Zotac 8100 AM2/AM2+ motherboard and i have had nothing but problems with it. when i first got it, i put it in my case with my stock PSU (generic 400w) and it turned on for about 3 seconds then died and i would never get past the post. So i bought a new PSU, Antec earthwatts 430w, i plugged it in turned it on and bam same thing Except! after those first 3 seconds, every time i tried to turn it on again, it would power on for about .1 second and the fans would flick and my LEDs in my fan would flick on. So my question is...Is my mobo bad, or am i doing something wrong? I think the problem may be that it's grounding out. Any help would be great

 

My reply:

 

1.) Don't use stock ps anymore. They do malfunction often. AND they can burn your motherboard.

2.) Your powersupply may still be the problem. Check with a different motherboard. Make sure you have enough watts for what you are running with the motherboard.

 

After you do that I can give you more options.

FenixDelta753

I have stopped using the stock PSU, i also should add that the stock PSU had a whopping 12a on the 12v rail, which is nil compared to what i need. And I know this PSU has the power because people have ran 4850s and 8800 gt's on it as well as quad cores

 

 

Quoted from thedailydeals.com

 

 

"Would 430W be enough to power Phenom 9550, NVidia 8200 mobo, 2 SATA HDDs, 1 SATA Blu-ray, 8800 GTS (G92), 2 120-mm fans, 2 80-mm fans and a TV Tuner card?

 

I want to replace the stock Apevia power-supply, but that is 500W PSU.

 

Thanks

Should be fine. I have an Intel Q6600 over-clocked to 3.0ghz with an 8800GTS (G80) with an EA 380w. Draws less than 250w at the wall socket, I think the Phenom 9550 should draw a little less power at stock speed (maybe :dontknow:), the G92 certainly will draw less.

 

u would have to check to make sure you are getting more amps with this PSU than the one you have installed now.

:iagree: You definitely don't want to "upgrade" and find out you're not. Although these Earthwatts a solid PSUs.

 

Just a warning: I purchased EW last november, immediately submitted rebate. It still has pending status. Various excuses from rebate processing center why they are delaying issuing of the check.

 

And no none of that has to do with my submission. I am about to have discussion with Frys store manager. Why should I be shafted if rebate center or antec have fiscal problems.

I've done 8 Antec rebates since August of last year. Have received 5 of those rebates. The other 3 were purchases less than 3 months ago, so those checks are coming (all confirmed with estimated mail dates on the checks). Antec is slow as heck with rebates (16 weeks from the date they receive the submission, but I have never been stiffed by Antec's rebate center. YMMV."

Edited by FenixDelta753

 

I have stopped using the stock PSU, i also should add that the stock PSU had a whopping 12a  on the 12v rail, which is nil compared to what i need.  And I know this PSU has the power because people have ran 4850s and 8800 gt's on it as well as quad cores

 

 

Quoted from thedailydeals.com

 

 

"Would 430W be enough to power Phenom 9550, NVidia 8200 mobo, 2 SATA HDDs, 1 SATA Blu-ray, 8800 GTS (G92), 2 120-mm fans, 2 80-mm fans and a TV Tuner card?

 

I want to replace the stock Apevia power-supply, but that is 500W PSU.

 

Thanks

Should be fine. I have an Intel Q6600 over-clocked to 3.0ghz with an 8800GTS (G80) with an EA 380w. Draws less than 250w at the wall socket, I think the Phenom 9550 should draw a little less power at stock speed (maybe :dontknow:), the G92 certainly will draw less.

 

u would have to check to make sure you are getting more amps with this PSU than the one you have installed now.

:iagree: You definitely don't want to "upgrade" and find out you're not. Although these Earthwatts a solid PSUs.

 

Just a warning: I purchased EW last november, immediately submitted rebate. It still has pending status. Various excuses from rebate processing center why they are delaying issuing of the check.

 

And no none of that has to do with my submission. I am about to have discussion with Frys store manager. Why should I be shafted if rebate center or antec have fiscal problems.

I've done 8 Antec rebates since August of last year. Have received 5 of those rebates. The other 3 were purchases less than 3 months ago, so those checks are coming (all confirmed with estimated mail dates on the checks). Antec is slow as heck with rebates (16 weeks from the date they receive the submission, but I have never been stiffed by Antec's rebate center. YMMV."

So your 100% positive that your motherboard and everything included powered by the powersupply is sufficient? Well then continue with number 2 and test another motherboard. I don't need to read what someone else said. You said the fans turn on and off, that is usually power supply related.

Edited by ZaCkOX
I have stopped using the stock PSU, i also should add that the stock PSU had a whopping 12a  on the 12v rail, which is nil compared to what i need.  And I know this PSU has the power because people have ran 4850s and 8800 gt's on it as well as quad cores

 

 

Quoted from thedailydeals.com

 

 

"Would 430W be enough to power Phenom 9550, NVidia 8200 mobo, 2 SATA HDDs, 1 SATA Blu-ray, 8800 GTS (G92), 2 120-mm fans, 2 80-mm fans and a TV Tuner card?

 

I want to replace the stock Apevia power-supply, but that is 500W PSU.

 

Thanks

Should be fine. I have an Intel Q6600 over-clocked to 3.0ghz with an 8800GTS (G80) with an EA 380w. Draws less than 250w at the wall socket, I think the Phenom 9550 should draw a little less power at stock speed (maybe :dontknow:), the G92 certainly will draw less.

 

u would have to check to make sure you are getting more amps with this PSU than the one you have installed now.

:iagree: You definitely don't want to "upgrade" and find out you're not. Although these Earthwatts a solid PSUs.

 

Just a warning: I purchased EW last november, immediately submitted rebate. It still has pending status. Various excuses from rebate processing center why they are delaying issuing of the check.

 

And no none of that has to do with my submission. I am about to have discussion with Frys store manager. Why should I be shafted if rebate center or antec have fiscal problems.

I've done 8 Antec rebates since August of last year. Have received 5 of those rebates. The other 3 were purchases less than 3 months ago, so those checks are coming (all confirmed with estimated mail dates on the checks). Antec is slow as heck with rebates (16 weeks from the date they receive the submission, but I have never been stiffed by Antec's rebate center. YMMV."

So your 100% positive that your motherboard and everything included powered by the powersupply is sufficient? Well then continue with number 2 and test another motherboard. I don't need to read what someone else said. You said the fans turn on and off, that is usually power supply related.

I got that with my f*cked mobo last weekend, the fans ramped up and down all the time.

Like I said, Powersupply related. I bought several back-ups and it has come in handy. I have had 3 died in the last year, generic ones first, then the ok brand. But that is the common thing happening now. Quality control seems to be sh*tty. I can send them in to get fixed, I get it back and they die again. So yes, P-O-S. You can fill it in.

FenixDelta753

I know it cant be the PSU because i cant even say that the fans run, they kind of twitch. When i had my old PSU i could get the comp to turn on for a few seconds, and sometimes post then it would shut off, i did that multiple times trying to get it running and i think that may have been what killed the Mobo. but when i put in my new one, in plugged it in and flipped the switch and everything came on for about 3 seconds just like the old one but this time i couldnt get it to come back after the first 3 seconds.

 

 

Is it bad that the comp tried to turn on immediately after i hit the switch on the psu?

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