How does the Intel i7 handle GTA IV?

[Sethos]

Mjello,

 

Today I decided to upgrade my old Core 2 Extreme X6800 rig to something a bit faster, an i7.

 

The specs are looking like this;

 

Asus P6T/WS/Professional

Intel Core i7 940

3 x 2048 Corsair PC10666

Gigabyte 4870X2 2GB

 

I was getting around 25-30 true-gameplay average FPS at 1920x1200, High - High, Sliders to 30, except Shadow Dens.

 

Can I expect a decent boost with the above rig, I heard GTA IV uses up multiple cores really well?

[ayushisrocking]

i wouldn't suggest you to get a super-expensive processor such as Core i7, because it isn't better than a Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770,in GAMING.For other purposes, I do not have an idea,but in gaming my CPU beats 965 extreme Core i7..just view the

"Core2extreme versus core i7" thread in my sig for more info.

and as for the 4870X2 , it's the fastest GPU TILL DATE on this Planet,named as 'earth'. it has awesome GDDR5 memory,what can you expect?

 

 

 

[Pixelated]

Nice. Why not install the game and find out? You will get a nice boost over the elder 65nm dual core but to be honest there probably isn't a huge leap from say.. a Q9xx0 to an i7 9x0.

 

Intel designed the i7 to compete in the server market where it has always been dominated by AMD. While holding it's own in games the i7 is most impressive in other areas where heavy computing is needed. That said they did design it to be an all around performer but you can see with four cores, eight threads, a very small L2 cache and large L3 that server space was it's main target. I'll be looking forward to Sandy Bridge or even as far ahead as Westmere to be the gaming beast we all want.

 

Anyways I'm rambling now. Put your PC together, install GTA IV and run some benchmarks. Post them in this thread when you're done. I'll be very interested to see the results.

[xStalkerxx]

 

i wouldn't suggest you to get a super-expensive processor such as Core i7, because it isn't better than  a Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770,in GAMING.For other purposes, I do not have an idea,but in gaming my CPU beats 965 extreme Core i7..just view the

"Core2extreme versus core i7" thread in my sig for more info.

and as for the 4870X2 , it's the fastest GPU TILL DATE on this Planet,named as 'earth'. it has awesome GDDR5 memory,what can you expect?           

now i realise you are getting jealous but the i7 965 beats the shlt out of yours

and if its overclocked it doesnt count because even 920 OC beats the 965

 

 

read some real benchmarks and stop being jealous

i know you feel raped in the ass by Intel for releasing a better CPU than yours, in such a short time

 

any yeah the 4870 x2 really is the best on earth till GTX 295 appears (already out in Holland)

and yea benchmarks proved that again and again it show how [email protected] up ATI drivers are in some games

Edited January 9, 2009 by xStalkerxx

[Sethos]

I know the i7 is not a gaming CPU per say, definitely a more all-round CPU, though it being a server CPU is not entirely correct. Just looked at a few benchmark videos on YouTube featuring the i7 and specs similar to mine, over 60 FPS in the static benchmark, quite impressive!

 

As for building it, I just ordered all this hardware today and should be here tomorrow. So unless you want me to imagine I'm building it and post imaginary benchmarks, I might have to hold out for another day

 

But will definitely do a run-through with some FRAPS averages, benchmarks, various setups etc. tomorrow! As an added bonus, Windows 7 64 Bit benchmarks will be included as well

[ayushisrocking]

 

i wouldn't suggest you to get a super-expensive processor such as Core i7, because it isn't better than  a Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770,in GAMING.For other purposes, I do not have an idea,but in gaming my CPU beats 965 extreme Core i7..just view the

"Core2extreme versus core i7" thread in my sig for more info.

and as for the 4870X2 , it's the fastest GPU TILL DATE on this Planet,named as 'earth'. it has awesome GDDR5 memory,what can you expect?           

now i realise you are getting jealous but the i7 965 beats the shlt out of yours

and if its overclocked it doesnt count because even 920 OC beats the 965

 

 

read some real benchmarks and stop being jealous

i know you feel raped in the ass by Intel for releasing a better CPU than yours, in such a short time

Why would i be jealous? i'm not as kiddish as you are.I said it because my processor is better ONLY in gaming.And,that too overclocked.

 

On top of that, my processor is much more 'reasonable' than the core i7 965.

 

 

grow up.

 

4870 x2 really is the best on earth till GTX 295 appears (already out in Holland)

it won't beat 4870X2.

 

 

 

Edited January 9, 2009 by ayushisrocking

[Pixelated]

 

On top of that, my processor is much more 'reasonable' than the core i7 965.

How is the i7 965 EE anymore unreasonable than the QX9770? They're both around a grand US. Anyways he said he bought the mid i7 940 which is around $500

 

 

I know the i7 is not a gaming CPU per say, definitely a more all-round CPU, though it being a server CPU is not entirely correct. Just looked at a few benchmark videos on YouTube featuring the i7 and specs similar to mine, over 60 FPS in the static benchmark, quite impressive!

 

As for building it, I just ordered all this hardware today and should be here tomorrow. So unless you want me to imagine I'm building it and post imaginary benchmarks, I might have to hold out for another day

 

But will definitely do a run-through with some FRAPS averages, benchmarks, various setups etc. tomorrow! As an added bonus, Windows 7 64 Bit benchmarks will be included as well

That's what I meant. Build it, bench it and post it!

 

It's a desktop CPU with architecture aimed at overtaking AMD in the server market. I'm not ragging on it I'm just saying this year isn't the release of the killer Intel gaming CPU's. I'm also not saying you shouldn't buy it. Get what you like, we all have our preferences. I would never buy an EE CPU but on the other hand you obviously have the money so get what makes you happy.

Edited January 9, 2009 by Pixelated

[xStalkerxx]

 

i wouldn't suggest you to get a super-expensive processor such as Core i7, because it isn't better than  a Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770,in GAMING.For other purposes, I do not have an idea,but in gaming my CPU beats 965 extreme Core i7..just view the

"Core2extreme versus core i7" thread in my sig for more info.

and as for the 4870X2 , it's the fastest GPU TILL DATE on this Planet,named as 'earth'. it has awesome GDDR5 memory,what can you expect?           

now i realise you are getting jealous but the i7 965 beats the shlt out of yours

and if its overclocked it doesnt count because even 920 OC beats the 965

 

 

read some real benchmarks and stop being jealous

i know you feel raped in the ass by Intel for releasing a better CPU than yours, in such a short time

Why would i be jealous? i'm not as kiddish as you are.I said it because my processor is better ONLY in gaming.And,that too overclocked.

 

On top of that, my processor is much more 'reasonable' than the core i7 965.

 

 

grow up.

wow kid calm down

everyone got their own opinion

i respect yours (altought its 99%dream)

 

but hey like i said OC doesn't count

you just spend about 1000$ on your QX9770 just to find out that the more cheaper and power saving i7 965 beats yours

now calm down kid

[Stickymaddness]

i wouldn't suggest you to get a super-expensive processor such as Core i7, because it isn't better than a Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770,in GAMING.For other purposes, I do not have an idea,but in gaming my CPU beats 965 extreme Core i7..just view the

"Core2extreme versus core i7" thread in my sig for more info.

and as for the 4870X2 , it's the fastest GPU TILL DATE on this Planet,named as 'earth'. it has awesome GDDR5 memory,what can you expect?

[xStalkerxx]

i wouldn't suggest you to get a super-expensive processor such as Core i7, because it isn't better than  a Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770,in GAMING.For other purposes, I do not have an idea,but in gaming my CPU beats 965 extreme Core i7..just view the

"Core2extreme versus core i7" thread in my sig for more info.

and as for the 4870X2 , it's the fastest GPU TILL DATE on this Planet,named as 'earth'. it has awesome GDDR5 memory,what can you expect?           

thank you

[Pixelated]

Please don't use quotes from Tom's Hardware. That website is a joke. Too bad what it's become, used to be my favorite. Check out HardOCP, AnandTech, XBit Labs, etc..

[ayushisrocking]

 

 

http://media.bestofmicro.com/K/7/174391/original/017_crisys.jpg

 

lol, my processor is at the third position.

but that won't be after overclocking

 

 

 

well, what did we guys learn today?,kids..?

 

Ans: You can't have everything in life.

rofl

 

 

 

 

 

 

peace(not piece of a )

 

hey thanks for supporting me,Pixelated

 

 

don't trust Tom's hardware

Yeah, because the picture doesn't even show up the QX9775, it's an overclocked edition and requires a better socket.

 

 

So I should have gone for an older processor that costs more and performs a tad worse?

 

Makes sense :|

It does. QX9770 is better than i7 965 in gaming ONLY. and more so when it's overclocked.

if you had been looking at a lower CPu than 965,then it's not at all good for you.

More so, i7 965 is extremely tight on the budget.(as it's with ALL extreme editions, but QX9770 might be cheaper.)

Edited January 9, 2009 by ayushisrocking

[Sethos]

So I should have gone for an older processor that costs more and performs a tad worse?

 

Makes sense :|

[xStalkerxx]

lol, my processor is at the third position.

but that won't be after overclocking

 

 

 

well, what did we guys learn today?,kids..?

 

Ans: You can't have everything in life.

rofl

 

 

 

 

 

 

peace(not piece of a )

 

hey thanks for supporting me,Pixelated

and you don't realise what will happen when you pair the i7 965 with some DDR3 18000 and overclock it

 

oh man rofl

 

but hey believe what you want to believe Neo

[thales100]

Yep bench guys, thats what we need - ill post my all max settings ( high - highest - 100 - 100) at 1680 x 1050 running a Qx9650 at 4 Ghz and a GTX 280, 4Gb DDR3.

Post yours ayushisrocking, maybe same settings ? 1680 x 1050 is a common res, so we could compare.

Someone running a i7 and a high end GPU could post too.

[ayushisrocking]

 

Yep bench guys, thats what we need - ill post my all max settings ( high - highest - 100 - 100) at 1680 x 1050 running a Qx9650 at 4 Ghz and a GTX 280, 4Gb DDR3.

Post yours ayushisrocking, maybe same settings ? 1680 x 1050 is a common res, so we could compare.

Someone running a i7 and a high end GPU could post too. 

err...i haven't bought GTA4.

Even though i can get it for only 10$ in India(Kolkata is my city), LEGALLY

R* did this to minimize piracy which occurs here in India..

unfortunately this game isn't properly optimized, otherwise we would have been flying with around 150 FPS @highest settings and 24X AA

btw, my monitor does not support 1680*1050, it supports up to 1920*1200 resolution.

Edited January 9, 2009 by ayushisrocking

[DeeperRed]

I get 50FPS avergage everything maxed out @ 1920X1080 It occasilnally drops to 30 fps in really heavy situations.

 

Btw the i7 is a damn good CPU for everything ncluding games, anyone who says otherwise

A: Doesn't have a clue about computers

B: Jealous because they havent got one

 

And wait until games come out using as many threads as possible, then Core2 will be sadly left behind by the i7's

[Sethos]

Well here's some reading for the Q / I7 discussion, future proof ftw;

 

Some early articles suggested that i7's design is not ideal for gaming performance. In a test done on leaked hardware, a Core i7 940 compared to a QX9770 shows the Core i7 is slower than Yorkfield clock for clock in 2 while being faster in the other two. The difference in all cases is small, and is due to the significantly smaller sized L2 cache on the processor cores, with each core able to access its own 256 kB of L2 cache. In contrast, the most recent Yorkfields have up to 12 MB of L2 cache. To help compensate, the Core i7 also has a new L3 cache of 8 MB, shared among all four cores, similar to AMD's "Barcelona" processors. This is due to change, as more games will make use of more threads, and with HT (Hyperthreading) the Core i7 can scale more than 4x faster, such as in cinebench tests.[21] However, more recent testing done on all clock rates of official hardware with final drivers and BIOS revisions show that Core i7 at the very least beats Yorkfield clock-for-clock, and in most cases exceeds it by an average of about 17%.[22] But when it comes to high-end multi-GPU environments (Nvidia 3-way SLI and ATI Crossfire X), the i7 is revealed to be a lot faster than Yorkfield (QX9770) in clock-for-clock.

[Meki]

i wouldn't suggest you to get a super-expensive processor such as Core i7, because it isn't better than a Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770,in GAMING.For other purposes, I do not have an idea,but in gaming my CPU beats 965 extreme Core i7..just view the

"Core2extreme versus core i7" thread in my sig for more info.

and as for the 4870X2 , it's the fastest GPU TILL DATE on this Planet,named as 'earth'. it has awesome GDDR5 memory,what can you expect?

The 4870X2 is NOT the fastes GPU on earth, just the fastes card. This workes with twice this GPU. The fastes GPU belongs to nVidia, and they will have the fastet card again soon. ATi will beat nVidia in the price, but not in performance if you are talking about the fastes hardware available. The soon coming GTX295 will have also 2 GPUs, it will outperform the HD4870X2 in any case.

[badguy]

I dont have a clue wtf anyone is on about. To much computer talk.

[vestax]

Edited January 9, 2009 by vestax

[thales100]

k here it is my bench all max Qx9650 at 4 ghz + GTX 280 (using the VRAM tweak to enable view distance to 100):

 

Edited January 9, 2009 by thales100

[13th_Disciple]

I have a 4870x2 i suppose with a good mother board and an i7 the stuttering (so called) issue would be eliminated...almost depends on ram i suppose and HDD, i have abandoned AMD after 8 years and I'm moving to Intel, just for the change... why not...

 

-13th

[maceo242k1]

And wait until games come out using as many threads as possible, then Core2 will be sadly left behind by the i7's

People have been making that argument for years.. wait till games use this, or that... Only when more than two cores becomes affordable on the lowest end machines will the majority of games use more than two threads.These games are developed (for the most part) of being widely playable on computers with varying levels of performance. By the time that happens, i7 will sadly be left in the dust.

 

I hate getting into pissing contests about this. My specs are below for the most part, I play whatever I want at decent settings, onyl upgrade im considering is switching to Cosair dominators and bumping up to 8 gb (newegg... hella cheap!), and moving to ONE 4870. After a while spending money on extra stuff for 5 fps is just plain retarded. Instead of dropping 4 grans into a computer ill use 10-15 hours a week, I spend 350 and upgrade this baby, use the money more effeciently....

 

 

 

At the stripclub.

[Pixelated]

Well this wasn't a pissing contest but now it seems to have turned into one. I don't care whether Nvidia's new GX2 furnace will overtake ATI's X2 space heater. Someone came in here pissing on the OP's parade going on about how his CPU is better when it does this and that CPU is better when doing that, etc..

 

Fanboyism gets old quick. I just love new tech, regardless of the faceless, heartless, badge or corporate branding.

[thales100]

I would like to check some i7 benchs running 1680 x 1050 all max GFX settings.

[pinky]

k here it is my bench all max Qx9650 at 4 ghz + GTX 280 (using the VRAM tweak to enable view distance to 100):

 

QX9650 FTW.

 

On a side note, has anyone seen over 72FPS in IV and not including the 5000+FPS you can get in the loading screens either?

No matter what settings I use I can never get an increase above 72FPS, is the game capped?

[craig3000]

at the same clocks an i7 will beat a Core 2, Yes even in gaming there is no denying it

 

yes the top Core2 processor is really really good but it has been outdone

[thales100]

Come on, where are the i7 owners, can you beat the C2Q at 4Ghz+ , please post your GTA 4 benchs.

Edited January 9, 2009 by thales100

[BobLeeSwagger]

upgrade to I7 just to play a game....nice f*ckin waste of 1000$+...

I still kick the sh*t out of any game (except gta4) with a year old 6000+

I finished Gta 4 last week with some lag (avg 28fps) and Im quite happy I didnt make the foolish move to upgrade my rig.