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GTA IV vs Saints Row 2 for pc


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Being a GTA fan I was extremely excited for this game, but this year when they announced it for PC as well I decided to skip the consoles version and get the superior PC version. Huge mistake! I will explain why in all major categories.

 

Port Quality: Horrendous is one way you can describe it. The menus don't offer any mouse support at all. Display categories completely leave out 16:10 and 16:9. Drastic frame rate drops(Specs at the bottom) make GTA4 look like a very well polished port. Overall this game should not have been released in it's current condition or maybe a different team actually capable of porting a game to PC should've had the job. Overall I am extremely disappointed in the overall quality of this port.

I'd give the port quality a 5 out of 10 at best due to the fact that it can be played on older systems despite looking very ps2'ish or even worst.

 

Graphics/Physics:

These graphics would be "decent", but the two graphic options that make the game look "decent" make the game completely unplayable. Dynamic Lighting and Ambient Occlusion make this game look "decent" at best. With those two options on, my solid 30 fps(it's capped at 30 even without v-sync on) drops to an abysmal 5-15fps. With those 2 options off it makes the game look equivalent to Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. The vehicles graphics are decent, but the player models took a nose dive from the first game. I bought this game thinking there would be some sort of visual improvement over the first Saints Row and I was REALLY disappointed. The character models look very dull and the city is completely dead. People are either walking or standing still waiting to be ran over. The physics which I loved in the first game are completely changed with the exception of your own player model. When you ram into cars they go flying 40-50 feet in the air. The car handling is completely changed and despite being very enjoyable in the first Saints Row the driving in this game feels very similar to True Crime Streets of L.A., which even that game was a bit better when it came to car handling. Overall the graphics/physics quality I'd give a 5.

 

Sounds: Sound was done pretty decently and has some good tracks on the radio and many stations to choose from. The pedestrians/cops say stupid things, but that adds to the like ability factor of this game which it actually did better in the first Saints Row. The Sound gets a solid 7.

 

Gameplay: The golden question lies here with the main question everyone wants to ask. Well hows the gameplay? The gameplay is the best part this game has to offer. The combat system was done very well from the shooting to the melee. Doing drive-bys is extremely easy and quite enjoyable. The gunplay(mouse and xbox controller) is great and you actually enjoy shooting people and the sensitivity is almost too perfect. There are a few problems which need to be addressed. Shooting through windshields/windows does absolutely nothing to the driver or the passenger, which defeats the purpose of shooting through the windows in the first place. The game also offers many different activities to keep you busy throughout the story. Also without Protect the Pimp(online mode from part 1) the game just doesn't have that online addiction factor Saints Row uno gave me. Overall I'd give gameplay a solid 8.

 

Replayability: With a solid online mode and with a pretty big city with many things you can do, this game offers many reasons to come back to it if you can get over many of its technical problems.

 

Closing words: Many of us were hoping for a game which offers us the fun which GTA left out. Many of us hardcore gamers wont experience that unfortunately, but If you do find a way to get pass the technical glitches and the mediocre graphics, AI, and physics there can be an enjoyable experience to be had here. My opinion do yourself a favor and save your money or go buy GTA4. Although GTA4 isn't as fun as GTA:SA and doesn't offer as many fun activities as Saints Row, it's less taxing on the system, offers visuals about 20 times better and offers a good story if you get pass the few stages of absolute boredom towards the middle of the game.

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I would sum it up this way:

 

Saints Row 2 has the zany fun and tons of content but lacks the physics AI and overall smoothness of GTA IV.

While GTA IV has the "pretty" thing down it lacks what Saints Row 2 has. If they were put together it would be the best game ever. Question is who is going to get there first?

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Yeah, I wanted to get this game, but after reading forums + IGN + your review, I realize this might be a worse port than GTA IV.

Again, even people with high end systems are struggling to run the game. sad.gif

After a patch or two is released fixing the issues, I won't hesitate picking this one up.

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I saw some pictures from Saints Row 2 and was like...oh. The graphics are nothing close to the GTA level. Not saying GTA IV has the best look ever but SR2 just didn't have the detail qualtiy that GTA does. It looks kind of odd. I'm interested to see some actual gameplay though.

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Is this the new SR2 thread? The old one was better; thanks to the two retards who f*cked it up for the rest of us.

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SR2 reminds me of san andreas but gta iv have better grafics but i also guess it have more bugs..

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If they were put together it would be the best game ever.

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If they were put togethet,we wouldn't be able to run the game for at least thirty years...

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Yeah, I wanted to get this game, but after reading forums + IGN + your review, I realize this might be a worse port than GTA IV.

Again, even people with high end systems are struggling to run the game. sad.gif

After a patch or two is released fixing the issues, I won't hesitate picking this one up.

yes it is. i thought that gta 4 was just a bad-optimised game. but SR2 is worst. worst graphics htan in gta4 nad more slow-downs. less fps. this is insanity

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Maybe it's a new evolution of pc gaming where our current pc can't run them smoothly. After a few month we might see, AMD Supteron 20Ghz, 10 GB Nvidia Gigaforce 5000, 500 inch plasma monitor tounge.gif

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GTA IV. Hands down.

 

Not that SR2 doesn;t ahve it points - none fine, but all fun. It's like what GTA would be if it was made by 12-year-olds.

 

But liek every other GTA-wannabe, it falls short of outshining.

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GTA IV. Hands down.

 

Not that SR2 doesn;t ahve it points - none fine, but all fun. It's like what GTA would be if it was made by 12-year-olds.

 

But liek every other GTA-wannabe, it falls short of outshining.

Yes exactly, GTA games are so massive in their size, scope and vision, so immaculate in their detail that no GTA copy cat game could ever meet it let alone top it.

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If they were put together it would be the best game ever.

user posted image

 

If they were put togethet,we wouldn't be able to run the game for at least thirty years...

Seriously now guys wtf is that?...

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If they were put together it would be the best game ever.

user posted image

 

If they were put togethet,we wouldn't be able to run the game for at least thirty years...

Seriously now guys wtf is that?...

i dont know but it looks scary

 

i could say someone used photoshop

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I own both and GTA IV is far superior software, period. SR2 is cool though and some of it's features would be very welcome in IV or vice versa. alien.gif

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If they were put together it would be the best game ever.

user posted image

 

If they were put togethet,we wouldn't be able to run the game for at least thirty years...

Seriously now guys wtf is that?...

i dont know but it looks scary

 

i could say someone used photoshop

It looks like a walking turd...

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just tried SR2, plays incredibly smooth on my pc with full AA and 16x AF etc but no 1680x1050 support which is er weird to say the least,

 

i like the cartoony graphics but omg the controls are so bad, driving is like driving a block of cheese that somehow magically stays on rails the whole time - it's just bad imo.

 

gta 4 is a lot better but i can't help thinking somwhere in between the two would suit me better, like the old gta's.

 

but sr2 is just horrible even if i can make my character into a transvestite that speeks like a gangster with a pink face that goes Eeeeyyyyyy like the fonz, the way it actually plays is horrible especially with a mouse.

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If they were put together it would be the best game ever.

user posted image

 

If they were put togethet,we wouldn't be able to run the game for at least thirty years...

Seriously now guys wtf is that?...

i dont know but it looks scary

 

i could say someone used photoshop

could be a dog standing on its feet tounge.gif

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Rockstar should of had all of what SR2 had just for fun...GTA IV is so empty on things to do...COOP should of been exactly like SR2...

 

Owell, Maybe next time... I hope Diablo 3 turns out to be fun...

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Its the Ghost Rider driving through your garden thats for sure. sarcasm.gif

It's my brother, Ted. Leave him alone.

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