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Dunno why you would wana use win 7 beta i personally think its just for its looks thats all.

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Dunno why you would wana use win 7 beta i personally think its just for its looks thats all.

The point isn't to just use it. It's a beta, so the point is to test drive the pre-product so it doesn't suck as bad as Vista did. You can't say, "It's all about the looks", until you actually try the beta.

 

@Indi: I don't know what you're trying to install, but I've had no problems installing my chipset, sound, or video drivers on Windows 7. Basic drivers were pre-installed and worked perfectly, I just wanted to ensure stability by installing what was provided with the hardware.

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Dunno why you would wana use win 7 beta i personally think its just for its looks thats all.

The point isn't to just use it. It's a beta, so the point is to test drive the pre-product so it doesn't suck as bad as Vista did. You can't say, "It's all about the looks", until you actually try the beta.

 

 

Personally i have tried win 7 beta on vmware and it sucked big time but thats just my opinion. But seriously its about the looks also all win 7 is going to be is just a new taskbar and stuff copied over from vista thats all.

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Dunno why you would wana use win 7 beta i personally think its just for its looks thats all.

The point isn't to just use it. It's a beta, so the point is to test drive the pre-product so it doesn't suck as bad as Vista did. You can't say, "It's all about the looks", until you actually try the beta.

 

 

Personally i have tried win 7 beta on vmware and it sucked big time but thats just my opinion. But seriously its about the looks also all win 7 is going to be is just a new taskbar and stuff copied over from vista thats all.

I don't know about you, what your intentions of installing Windows 7 was, or what you expected, but I've noticed big performance improvements, less resource hogging, and better convenience than even what XP offered me.

 

I'm still an XP user because I wasn't very happy with Vista, and I'm impressed by the improvements from Vista to 7 so far in this beta. There are some things that could have been left out, but it's been an overall good experience for me, and I'll continue to use it.

 

I respect your opinion, though it just seems you expected it to just look different, and didn't even test it out, which is the point. Using an emulator isn't a good idea in this case.

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Yeah so far Windows 7 is running a lot better resource wise than Vista did. I actually had to get rid of Vista because of how much it was slowing down my computer. Doesn't seem to be a problem here. I still have to install some games on here and try them out.

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My intention of trying windows 7 was to see if it actually runs alot quicker as such. But for me it was a big let down as i use an intel core 2 duo e7600. Plus i didn't want to dual boot it or even delete vista for it i was playing it safe. And i downloaded win 7 beta from MSDN as i dont do illegal torrent downloading.

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@Indi, still confused. When you say click them, do you mean double click? As in launch those two programs?

And what drivers are you having problems with? Haven't had any problems with drivers on my end.

 

@Sixdust, weird, I clicked it again and it worked. I'll install the patch even though Chargr says they're playing fine.

 

@Chargr, are you using Windows Media Player to play the MP3s? I'm pretty sure it's only WMP that's corrupting the files.

 

@Gangsta Killa, damn a few days? I got it done over night! Downloaded it again just so I have a copy in case my install DVD gets damaged.

 

@Edmachine, my apologies, that link skips a step. You need to "shrink volume" first. This guide tells you what to do. http://www.syschat.com/dual-boot-vista-xp-...ready-1946.html

 

This is what you need to do.

 

 

-right-click the drive you want to partition, and select "Shrink Partition"

-The amount you shrink the partition is the amount of space used for the XP partition, so i would suggest making it at least 3-

 

4GB in size, as a full XP installation will take 1.5GB on it's own.

 

-now right-click the unallocated memory and select new basic partition.

 

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-Choose NTFS file system, this will save formatting before installation.

-name the drive anything you like, i chose "XP"

-click next on the rest of the screens and finish.

 

once the formatting is finished you will have something like this:

 

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For Windows 7 I think your partition will need to be at least 15GB, I'd go safe and make it 20GB if you can, if not more. It may be possible to merge the partition to the original source later on. If not you can always remove/reformat all the data on it and use the space just like a regular drive. It'll just show up as a secondary HDD in your My Computer folder.

 

If you are willing to use a third party application, I use Paragon Partition Manager, works very well and is very intuitive imo. I think it costs $... but if you PM me I can help with that

 

 

Now, on the topic of the choice of OS... while I do like 7, it's a beta and I'm sure there will be quite a bit of bugs found with normal everyday use. That and the fact that I can't get a lot of .avi files to play in WMP (which I use constantly in Vista) are two huge reasons I will NOT use it as my primary, daily OS.

And the reason I'm sticking with Vista is because I have all of my applications installed on it, several which are registered to this PC and it's OS and I'm too damn lazy to go through the trouble of reactivating them by contacting the company and explaining things AND re-installing EVERYTHING all over again. Although I'd love to get a clean slate and just start with XP or possibly W7.

 

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How about we all post our Windows Experience Index? I've got a little more info to go along with mine...

Re-ran the WEI rating and got a 3.0 on my HDD, no clue why I got a 2.1 before. Weird.

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@Picolini: Thanks! But I just did it with EASEUS Partition Manager. That was easy. Thanks to that, I have rid the fear of partitioning out of myself. Now, onto the installation.

 

EDIT: I can't boot from the DVD. It says: CDBOOT: Couldn't find BOOTMGR. Though, I can see the bootmgr and bootmgr.efi files.

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I think I am going to get around to installing the Beta today. I have had the 64bit edition for quite a few days, so the itch is getting there.

 

However, I saw this blog on the MSDN, and it had some interesting things written. Alot of stuff we may have not noticed included support for the open document format in notepad. WOW!!!!!

 

Check it out

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@Picolini: Thanks! But I just did it with EASEUS Partition Manager. That was easy. Thanks to that, I have rid the fear of partitioning out of myself. Now, onto the installation.

 

EDIT: I can't boot from the DVD. It says: CDBOOT: Couldn't find BOOTMGR. Though, I can see the bootmgr and bootmgr.efi files.

When does it say that? Right after your PC starts up and asks "press any button to boot from CD..." and you press a button? Or at some other point?

Could be that you burnt the ISO incorrectly, but if you are seeing those files it should be right. Maybe those files were corrupted upon burning. That would be my best guess. I'm assuming you tried more than once, but if not give it another try.

 

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However, I saw this blog on the MSDN, and it had some interesting things written. Alot of stuff we may have not noticed included support for the open document format in notepad. WOW!!!!!

 

Check it out

 

First, lots of great info on that link, but it had exactly what I was looking for:

 

Pin Your Favorite Folders. If you’re always working in the same four or five folders, you can quickly pin them with the Explorer icon on the taskbar. Hold the right-click button down and drag the folder to the taskbar, and it will be automatically pinned in the Explorer Jump List.
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However, I saw this blog on the MSDN, and it had some interesting things written. Alot of stuff we may have not noticed included support for the open document format in notepad. WOW!!!!!

 

Check it out

 

First, lots of great info on that link, but it had exactly what I was looking for:

 

Pin Your Favorite Folders. If you’re always working in the same four or five folders, you can quickly pin them with the Explorer icon on the taskbar. Hold the right-click button down and drag the folder to the taskbar, and it will be automatically pinned in the Explorer Jump List.

Yep - I never would have figured that one out.

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@Picolini: No, it was at the screen which outputs a lot of numbers and letters (after the POST screen).

Boot from disk: couple of seconds later, the error.

And by trying more than once, do you mean to burn another DVD? If not, I tried twice to boot it.

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@Picolini: No, it was at the screen which outputs a lot of numbers and letters (after the POST screen).

Boot from disk: couple of seconds later, the error.

And by trying more than once, do you mean to burn another DVD? If not, I tried twice to boot it.

There is an alternate way - do you have XP installed on this PC as well?

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Yeah. I also tried to open setup.exe. It didn't respond. autorun.inf didn't even respond to a right-click (though, it seemed to have froze up after I tried to open it).

I also read on Wikipedia, that Microsoft have decided (or might) to remove the InkBall game. I saw my housekeeping and technologies teacher play it. I downloaded a version of it that runs on Windows as well. Fun game. Why might they remove it?

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I meant if you only tried booting from the disk once, try it again.

It might help to burn it again though, since it didn't work that way.

 

If you have a 4GB USB stick laying around you can boot from that, save yourself use of DVDs, and plenty of time as I hear they install faster. Google to find how to set it up to boot from the USB, and make the USB bootable, shouldn't be hard.

 

Not sure what screen you're talking about... is it like a blue screen with the generic white font? Or black screen with the white font? Don't remember the install process exactly...

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Tried booting twice from the disk to no avail.

I don't have a 4GB USB stick, but I do have an 8GB Compact Flash card and a card reader. Maybe I could use this combination?

The screen right after the POST screen. With black background and white font. It doesn't even bring me to the Press any key screen.

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Yeah. I also tried to open setup.exe. It didn't respond. autorun.inf didn't even respond to a right-click (though, it seemed to have froze up after I tried to open it).

I also read on Wikipedia, that Microsoft have decided (or might) to remove the InkBall game. I saw my housekeeping and technologies teacher play it. I downloaded a version of it that runs on Windows as well. Fun game. Why might they remove it?

Try copying all the files from either the iso or the dvd to a folder on your XP partition. Then try running setup - if it still doesn't work, your download may be corrupt.

 

Since I do not have a dvd burner, I almost always have to use this method to instll dvd iso's.

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Not sure what screen you're talking about Ed, sorry!

 

@Indi, thanks those suggestions for getting GTAIV to run worked! icon14.gificon14.gif

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So any word on how long the beta will last? I might get it to have a free copy of Windows on my computer.

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Wow, Paint can open PNG's now? Awesome.

 

I've been waiting for a slightly more capable Paint for a while now.

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Wow, Paint can open PNG's now? Awesome.

 

I've been waiting for a slightly more capable Paint for a while now.

ive always been able to do that since xp..

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@Chargr, are you using Windows Media Player to play the MP3s? I'm pretty sure it's only WMP that's corrupting the files.

 

 

Yeah only WMP.

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It's less than 3GB if I remember correctly.

 

Anyway, I'm still using Windows 7 and finding it to run pretty stable, except I can't get this certain online game to work.. I don't know if it's the game or windows.

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