TAshifter88 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 First off, I wanted to let everyone know that I'm VERY aware of all the flaws the PC version of the game has as far as hardware efficiency is concerned. My problem isn't that. My problem is that the more I play the game, the choppier and slow it gets. It's not a very gradual shift, but after about 15 minutes or so, it drastically becomes slower and MUCH choppier. Does anyone know what coudl be causing this? At first, I thought it was the temperatures were throttling my hardware, but niether my GPU nor CPU ever exceed 55C. Does anyone else have this problem, or a possible solution? The most confusing part of it is it makes no difference if I run it on full settings, or the smallest resolution and lowest settings. The framerate between the two settings is NOT that different, and lower settings does not make the lag come along later in gameplay. I even tried overclocking and underclocking.. but to no avail. I'm running w/ 2GB Dominator ram e6600 C2D (tried from 2.2ghz to 3.6ghz, but normally @ 3.4ghz) 8800GTS 640mb Thanks for any help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent h3ro Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 It's probably a memory leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAshifter88 Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 It's probably a memory leak. memory leak? Is there an easy way to fix this? I tried disk defragmenting.. no avai. (jkdefrag). Also, I'll add that my computer runs UT3, Far Cry 2... most up t odate games on high settings w/ no framerate issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent h3ro Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 The problem is with the game, not your computer. Try updating to the newest patch. That might fix it, but I'm not sure to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steiner666 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 yeah sounds like a memory leak. I can't remember what game it was, but there was one that i was playing a couple years ago and i had exactly the same problem as you're experiencing. I had to restart my game every 10-15 minutes to get decent performance. Doesn't effect everyone though obviously, so it's a combination of your hardware/OS/driver versions/game version thats causing it i'm guessing. something that needs to be addressed by the game devs tho. On another note, i have a somewhat similar problem in GTA4.. after i play for a length of time (usually between 1-2 hours) m game crashes and i get a error about out of memory/video memory... which is pretty stupid since i have like 800-some MB of video ram and 4gb of system ram.... again, a problem that needs addressed in a patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babarian225 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Are you aware that GTA IV plays better on VISTA SP1 that XP ! I have dual boot and that's the case. It seems sluggish on XP SP3 But on Vista SP1 not sluggish slow, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Challenger Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I am experiencing game choppiness after about 30 minutes of gameplay since I installed the 180.60 driver. Been playing for hours with no issues at all with the 177.98 driver before.... 180.60 = CUDA 2.1 beta Will try the 180.84 driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicotin3 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 You need more ram, check the link in my sig. Next time you have a problem do yourself a favour and search the troubleshooting section of the forum, there is a porpuse to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lastsource Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I have the exact same problems, after some time (maybe about 15-30min) the game starts to lag more and more. A lag means here short drops in the frame rate from about 25-30 fps down to 10 fps or below for about 1s. There should be enough ram in my system: 4GB on Vista x64. The only thing that helps so far is to either press ALT-TAB to switch to the windows desktop and form there I click to go right back to the game. This seems to reload some internal stuff that caused the lag and things are back to normal ... for some time. The other thing that removes the lag for some time is loading a saved game or restarting GTA. This seems to be some bug or memory leak inside GTA. A real fix would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomer678 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 My game gets slower after a while. ( A WHILE IS LIKE 3-4 HOURS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAshifter88 Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 You need more ram, check the link in my sig. Next time you have a problem do yourself a favour and search the troubleshooting section of the forum, there is a porpuse to it. I did read your link, but haven't been able to deduce any coorelation w/ RAM being the problem. In your very own thread, many people w/ 4gb of ram complained about the same problems, and I've heard people w/ 2gb of ram NOT have the same problem. I'll try applying the most recent patch a little bit later tonight, and will attempt the few, new techniques people mentioned to fix these problems later as well, and post up if I find any solution. Thanks for the help everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicotin3 Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 You need more ram, check the link in my sig. Next time you have a problem do yourself a favour and search the troubleshooting section of the forum, there is a porpuse to it. I did read your link, but haven't been able to deduce any coorelation w/ RAM being the problem. In your very own thread, many people w/ 4gb of ram complained about the same problems, and I've heard people w/ 2gb of ram NOT have the same problem. I'll try applying the most recent patch a little bit later tonight, and will attempt the few, new techniques people mentioned to fix these problems later as well, and post up if I find any solution. Thanks for the help everyone! You might want to read it again, our specs are similar and i experienced the same with 2 GB of RAM (performance loss over time). The coorelation is simply the fact that the game uses 1.5 GB of ram so 2 GB just wont cut it. The "Techniques" and tweaks might help but most of them are bogus (i tried them), you need 3 Gb of ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 You need more ram, check the link in my sig. Next time you have a problem do yourself a favour and search the troubleshooting section of the forum, there is a porpuse to it. I did read your link, but haven't been able to deduce any coorelation w/ RAM being the problem. In your very own thread, many people w/ 4gb of ram complained about the same problems, and I've heard people w/ 2gb of ram NOT have the same problem. I'll try applying the most recent patch a little bit later tonight, and will attempt the few, new techniques people mentioned to fix these problems later as well, and post up if I find any solution. Thanks for the help everyone! You might want to read it again, our specs are similar and i experienced the same with 2 GB of RAM (performance loss over time). The coorelation is simply the fact that the game uses 1.5 GB of ram so 2 GB just wont cut it. The "Techniques" and tweaks might help but most of them are bogus (i tried them), you need 3 Gb of ram. Not always the case because I had it with 8gig of DDR3 on Vista64. Try adding in -nomemrestrict to you commandline.txt to help it a little. You will get the same problem usually, just much later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroangel Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Was this resolved? I am also experiencing the same exact problems: Windows XP SP3 AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 2.4Ghz 4 gig Ram (2 x 2 gig 800Mhz Corsair DD2) XP only recognizes 2.75GB Foxconn C51XEM2AA MoBo (nForce 590) 2 x 8800 GTS 640mb (one EVGA, other XFX) My system should be able to handle GTA4, it fact, it preforms rather well on very high settings until this slowdown kicks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 It is indeed a memory leak. I had the exact same problem with my game and I fixed it by following the guide at the memory leak fix topic. This completely fixed the problem for me and I can play IV very smoothly now. Try it out, it'll work for you too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) yeah sounds like a memory leak. I can't remember what game it was, but there was one that i was playing a couple years ago and i had exactly the same problem as you're experiencing. I had to restart my game every 10-15 minutes to get decent performance. Doesn't effect everyone though obviously, so it's a combination of your hardware/OS/driver versions/game version thats causing it i'm guessing. something that needs to be addressed by the game devs tho. On another note, i have a somewhat similar problem in GTA4.. after i play for a length of time (usually between 1-2 hours) m game crashes and i get a error about out of memory/video memory... which is pretty stupid since i have like 800-some MB of video ram and 4gb of system ram.... again, a problem that needs addressed in a patch. Are you talking about Swat 4? Because that game had the very same problem. Always had to flush out the memory after playing. Never seemed to flush itself lol. If you want the real answer, you should swallow this with salt, but a lot of people don't like to hear me talk about GTA 4 in such a way. Here's you answer. More than likely the ram is filling up to it's breaking point. Same can also go for the storage space within the hard drive. With the swaping of files, and reading large amounts of data, storing it into the ram and forgetting to erase it will lead to slower gameplay overtime. It's just like a bucket of water, you can't keep filling it! Empty some! Sorry but that is the real answer. Blame the miss-hap with a programmer that forgot to add code to remove such storage. How do I know I'm right? Well force exit your game and re-enter. Duh! Basic sh*t. Now want me to explain Alt-Tabbing? Because I think you guys can figure that one out. Edited January 11, 2009 by ZaCkOX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaCkOX Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Are you aware that GTA IV plays better on VISTA SP1 that XP ! I have dual boot and that's the case. It seems sluggish on XP SP3 But on Vista SP1 not sluggish slow, I can actually verify this. I have seen it as well. But it seems to me something is wrong with that. Considering XP is much faster and has a lot less bloat wire and crap code. I would have to say the game is mixed os code, and the Vista side has been done a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntropicLqd Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Try turning the radio off as soon as you get into a car. I found that doing that made the game lag much less. It implies that my PC is getting disk bound, but there's not much I can do about that until solid state disks are a bit cheaper (maybe another couple of years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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