x cmon3y x Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) After playing the game from anywhere to 15-40min the games graphics gun on the fritz, sometimes resulting in a BSOD I am running a GTX 260 Core 216 @ 59-70C load temps. (Corsair 650W its getting plenty of power!) I have tried reinstalling the game and 180.84 drivers with no luck. It worked fine on 32bit Vista but all these problems started when I updated to 64bit Vista and GTA IV is the only game to have this problem Looks more like graphical errors on the software part then artifacts, any ideas how to fix this? I have about had it with this trash of a game specs all stock speeds Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz 6GB DDR2 800Mhz EVGA GTX 260 core 216 896MB Corsair 650W XFX 680i LT Driver version 180.84 Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit SP1 in game settings Render Quality: Highest Texture Quality: Medium all sliders 30 1680x1050 Shadow Density - 0 FPS avg, 31 CPU idle temps 40-49C, Load 55-60C GPU idle temps 42-45C, Load 59-70C MCP 62C Edited January 7, 2009 by x cmon3y x Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 anyone? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058855722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
logitechdog Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) nope only thing I can say is install the 32bit again ... your first gfx screenshot does not look like its in the right aspect, as the car on the left is bigger than the one infront... as for the second one that looks like its been made by hand... as the lighting looks wrong, and also the images are from different locations of the bridge, and also the last one the lights are not right on the hummer.... can you get your event viewer crash report so can get the Stop: 0x code Edit:- oh ye forgot to say them temps look high... what cooling you using? looked in your other post said you oced? Edited January 7, 2009 by logitechdog Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058855788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
<Floyd> Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 It worked fine on 32bit Vista but all these problems started when I updated to 64bit Vista and GTA IV is the only game to have this problem "if something aint broke don't fix it" I have tried reinstalling the game and 180.84 drivers with no luck. do you have the 64 bit version of the drivers installed Looks more like graphical errors on the software part then artifacts, any ideas how to fix this? I have about had it with this trash of a game this play up is on your part...not the software Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058855966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astyanax Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Well first off, 64-bit scores slightly higher in benchmarks so your point is kind of moot in that area, Secondly 32-bit drivers would not install on a 64-bit OS. There would be an error instantly stating this if there had been any attempt at running them. As for the graphic issue, have you tried other drivers? I would give 185.20 a try, it's said to improve performance in GTA4 a bit so they might be worth a try. Heres a link: http://downloads.guru3d.com/GeForce-ForceW...nload-2156.html Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058856084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
<Floyd> Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Well first off, 64-bit scores slightly higher in benchmarks so your point is kind of moot in that area oops you didnt understand me he said "It worked fine on 32bit Vista but all these problems started when I updated to 64bit Vista" i said translation: "if it f*ckin worked then why f*cking change it" Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058856272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astyanax Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Well first off, 64-bit scores slightly higher in benchmarks so your point is kind of moot in that area oops you didnt understand me he said "It worked fine on 32bit Vista but all these problems started when I updated to 64bit Vista" i said translation: "if it f*ckin worked then why f*cking change it" Maybe because he has 6gigs of ram and 32-bit will only use half that? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058856285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Well first off, 64-bit scores slightly higher in benchmarks so your point is kind of moot in that area oops you didnt understand me he said "It worked fine on 32bit Vista but all these problems started when I updated to 64bit Vista" i said translation: "if it f*ckin worked then why f*cking change it" Maybe because he has 6gigs of ram and 32-bit will only use half that? exactly,Im glad at least someone is trying to be helpful. There is no user fault here, as every other game plays fine its just this clearly flawed game Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058856940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicotin3 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 That is very strange and terrible . Temperature would make artifacts like spikes or crashes but i've never seen anything like this before... Is 1680x1050 the native resolution of your display? Are you running your desktop and ingame resolution at the same setting? Have you tried changing the aspect ratio from auto to 16:10? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 That is very strange and terrible . Temperature would make artifacts like spikes or crashes but i've never seen anything like this before... Is 1680x1050 the native resolution of your display? Are you running your desktop and ingame resolution at the same setting? Have you tried changing the aspect ratio from auto to 16:10? yes desktop and ingame res. is the same, Its not overheating 59-C to 70C is not overheating for a GTX 260 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 just noticed after exiting the game after the fps dropped, that the memory clock was down to desktops speeds? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTKRickJames Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 exactly,Im glad at least someone is trying to be helpful. There is no user fault here, as every other game plays fine its just this clearly flawed game I doubt its faulty software, as we have almost identical systems, and my game runs flawlessly. I have E6850 @3.6Ghz 8Gb PC2 800 Mhz ram GTX 260 Superclocked Vista x64 SP1 Nvidia driver 180.84 Try getting rivatuner and forcing your card to performance mode always, so that it doesnt underclock while you play games.... EDIT: Actually 650 watts for GTX260 core 216 is a lil low IMO Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 exactly,Im glad at least someone is trying to be helpful. There is no user fault here, as every other game plays fine its just this clearly flawed game I doubt its faulty software, as we have almost identical systems, and my game runs flawlessly. I have E6850 @3.6Ghz 8Gb PC2 800 Mhz ram GTX 260 Superclocked Vista x64 SP1 Nvidia driver 180.84 Try getting rivatuner and forcing your card to performance mode always, so that it doesnt underclock while you play games.... EDIT: Actually 650 watts for GTX260 core 216 is a lil low IMO no its not and corsair psu's are very efficient one of the most efficient psus Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTKRickJames Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 no its not and corsair psu's are very efficient one of the most efficient psus Notice how I typed IMO, that means in my opinion, thank you for voicing yours too. Anyway try out rivatuner and use it to force your GPU into performance mode 100% of the time, i had issues where my GPU was underclocking itself during cutscenes in GTA IV only. Its worth trying m8. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 no its not and corsair psu's are very efficient one of the most efficient psus Notice how I typed IMO, that means in my opinion, thank you for voicing yours too. Anyway try out rivatuner and use it to force your GPU into performance mode 100% of the time, i had issues where my GPU was underclocking itself during cutscenes in GTA IV only. Its worth trying m8. ok i will give it a try, where do i go in rivatuner to froce it Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTKRickJames Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) I forget where exactly it the setting is, as it in the power user section, i will search through riva and find it for you. EDIT: where should i upload pics too? otherwise go to the power user tab, then find the line RivaTuner\NVIDIA\Overclocking and find the value EnablePerfLevelForcing click in the grey check mark and hit ok. then, go to the main tab, and under Driver Settings where it says forceware detected, click the customize button. then click on the little icon of a video card, its labeled sytem settings if you hover your mouse over it. Now under the overclocking sliders there should be a drop down box that says "Force constant performance level" drop it down to Performance 3d. hit apply and restart. tell me if that helps.... Good luck and if you want screenies of rivatuner to help you find it, just tell me where to upload them. _Jame$ Edited January 8, 2009 by TTKRickJames Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 I forget where exactly it the setting is, as it in the power user section, i will search through riva and find it for you. EDIT: where should i upload pics too? otherwise go to the power user tab, then find the line RivaTuner\NVIDIA\Overclocking and find the value EnablePerfLevelForcing click in the grey check mark and hit ok. then, go to the main tab, and under Driver Settings where it says forceware detected, click the customize button. then click on the little icon of a video card, its labeled sytem settings if you hover your mouse over it. Now under the overclocking sliders there should be a drop down box that says "Force constant performance level" drop it down to Performance 3d. hit apply and restart. tell me if that helps.... Good luck and if you want screenies of rivatuner to help you find it, just tell me where to upload them. _Jame$ the option to force it is shaded out for me WTF? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTKRickJames Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 the option to force it is shaded out for me WTF? did you go into power user and set the EnablePerfLevelForcing to on? By clicking the little grey check mark? do you see the little lightbulb and the grey checkmark? they are circled in red, find that line and check it. then the box wont be grayed out for you. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 the option to force it is shaded out for me WTF? did you go into power user and set the EnablePerfLevelForcing to on? By clicking the little grey check mark? do you see the little lightbulb and the grey checkmark? they are circled in red, find that line and check it. then the box wont be grayed out for you. ok i got it. I will try this now Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 now is there any possible harm in doing this, b/c the card will be running hotter b/c of this right? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTKRickJames Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) now is there any possible harm in doing this, b/c the card will be running hotter b/c of this right? Honestly i Havent seen any difference in temps my video card idles at about 50c and loads in GTA IV at about 60-65c (and my GPU is overclocked) no big heat issues here, and your GPU is a core 216 right? so its an EVGA right? So if it did break you have lifetime warrenty, and OverClocking is supported by the warranty. But ive had no issues. I also have the fan forced to 100% through rivatuner. You could also use evga precision tools for that, it came with your video card. Edited January 8, 2009 by TTKRickJames Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058857965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTKRickJames Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 So. Did it work? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058860121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) No, I give up, I have tried everything and I still cant get it to run properly on vista 64bit. So I am unistalling the game and throwing it in the abyss Edited January 8, 2009 by x cmon3y x Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058860696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 I have discovered going back to the desktop and back into the game resolves this graphical glitch but it is still very annoying Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058861152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
logitechdog Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 did you find out what BSOD you where getting, from the event viewer? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058861207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x cmon3y x Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 did you find out what BSOD you where getting, from the event viewer? no there was no BSOD in the event viewer, i looked for like 30min. But when i got the BSOD before it restarted it said something about "display driver Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058861224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
logitechdog Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) you can get the screen to not restart automaticly if your not getting a event log... if it still happens... control panel > system > advance settings > advance > startup and recovery ( automatic restart untick ) but I am guessing it would be a full uninstall run a reg cleaner and restart and redownload your drivers and install Edited January 9, 2009 by logitechdog Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058861294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTKRickJames Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 dont flame me for ths but, you may have fualty ram, i had a game that did that kind of sh*t too, GRiD it gave me graphical errors( artifacting and weird rendering) also got BSOD related to display drivers, turned out to be dead ram. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390823-game-stopping-graphical-glitch-after-moving-to-vis/#findComment-1058864792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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