maceo242k1 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 So if my child comes to me at 6 and says, 'mummy, there's a new game out and everyone else has it and I want it.' I'll say 'fair enough, but buy it yourself.' Even if its GTA or other ultra mature themed game/media? I get what youre saying about hearing it from outside sources, thats totally true. But i think what I would rather have, is instead of kinda giving in because the outside world is already vulgar and nasty, I want the place where they sleep and eat to be a place where it doesnt happen. At least until their too old to be monitored in that way. I guess i just think it's way too convenient to just assume that they'll make the right decision when their that young. If we give them that freedom, and then we're wrong about them being able to make that judgement, we will have almost given them carte blanche to be @$$holes 10 years down the road. Letting them find theyre own reality, which could be great, or horrible depending on where you live, how much money you have, so many other factors... I don't mind playing grammar/behavior nazi in the beginning to make sure that even when they are rebelling, they still have proper fear of consequences and results of their actions. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058862328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunr Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 "This really is a story of miracles," Wilkins said. "The Lord was with him, along with everybody else on the highway." Pathetic its pathetic to call people pathetic for their beliefs. That only applies if their beliefs are valid and logical. I know. who get's their beliefs from a book written more than 1000 years ago? They only thought they could get away with it because they could call the stars lights from heaven. Why people still believe in god is crazy. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durka Durka Mahn Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I heard about this all over the news, and this is the second kid to steal a car and drive himself somewhere here in Virginia in the past month or so. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikofan112 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Hmm, alot of you are blaming the parents. but, consider this scenario.... The father already left, 5:45, jut like every morning to get to his workplace and make a living for his family. The mother was still asleep due to her working the graveyard shift at her job to feed her kids. Having taught their kids the importance of getting a good education, the child readies himself. He goes to get to the bus on-time, but finds an injured ocelot on the sidewalk. He brings it to a local veterinarian, paying with his little pocket money. He finds he is late to the bus, so, remembering the importance of school, and the fact that they are serving crepes at the preschool on French Day, part of Europe Month, he goes to wake his mother, but, not wanting to disturb her much needed sleep, he finds her car keys, and drives his mothers car, just like he saw in his video game. He is driving just fine, but has a blowout while driving, so he crashes into the pole. Unperturbed, he carries on to school, knowing he won't get there in time for crepes, but knows he can get there in time for P.E., because being healthy is important to him. Hey, it's a possibility. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan. Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 "This really is a story of miracles," Wilkins said. "The Lord was with him, along with everybody else on the highway." Pathetic its pathetic to call people pathetic for their beliefs. That only applies if their beliefs are valid and logical. I know. who get's their beliefs from a book written more than 1000 years ago? They only thought they could get away with it because they could call the stars lights from heaven. Why people still believe in god is crazy. Everyone has a right to their beliefs though; they shouldn't be ridiculed because they happen to believe in something. What's logical for one person might not be logical for another one. Each to his own. By the way, it's also something called respect. If you don't like a religion, why do you have to express your pagan views which may offend some people? I myself am an Agnostic, but still think that people should have respect for other's beliefs. As for this story, this is f*cking funny. Sad, but funny. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straznicy Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Proof we should lower the driving age. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hl_world Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 "This really is a story of miracles," Wilkins said. "The Lord was with him, along with everybody else on the highway." Pathetic its pathetic to call people pathetic for their beliefs. That only applies if their beliefs are valid and logical. I know. who get's their beliefs from a book written more than 1000 years ago? They only thought they could get away with it because they could call the stars lights from heaven. Why people still believe in god is crazy. Everyone has a right to their beliefs though; they shouldn't be ridiculed because they happen to believe in something. What's logical for one person might not be logical for another one. Each to his own. By the way, it's also something called respect. If you don't like a religion, why do you have to express your pagan views which may offend some people? I myself am an Agnostic, but still think that people should have respect for other's beliefs. As for this story, this is f*cking funny. Sad, but funny. Because these people are f*cking delusional and holding these beliefs should merit no more respect than believing in the tooth fairy. Religion is treated like a spoiled kid sheltered from criticism despite having no basis of belief while wielding the ability to become the center of peoples lives and even influence government policy. Political correctness is just worsening the issue by gagging people. I'm not Pagan, I'm an atheist and the word "atheistic" should be changed to "rational". Also, for these reasons, nutboy, you can see why everyone called YOU pathetic. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Because these people are f*cking delusional and holding these beliefs should merit no more respect than believing in the tooth fairy. Religion is treated like a spoiled kid sheltered from criticism despite having no basis of belief while wielding the ability to become the center of peoples lives and even influence government policy. Political correctness is just worsening the issue by gagging people. I'm not Pagan, I'm an atheist and the word "atheistic" should be changed to "rational". Also, for these reasons, nutboy, you can see why everyone called YOU pathetic. Well, it's certainly better than "bright" (Richard, you are a clever man, but even you make mistakes). Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceo242k1 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Because these people are f*cking delusional and holding these beliefs should merit no more respect than believing in the tooth fairy. Religion is treated like a spoiled kid sheltered from criticism despite having no basis of belief while wielding the ability to become the center of peoples lives and even influence government policy. Political correctness is just worsening the issue by gagging people. I'm not Pagan, I'm an atheist and the word "atheistic" should be changed to "rational". Also, for these reasons, nutboy, you can see why everyone called YOU pathetic. And by bashing people that believe in God, does this make you and better than the Religious Holy Rollers who bash your lack of belief in said God? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Joe Death Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 If the car was a manual then I'm extremely surprised that the kid even had the skills to get the car moving. He's a better driver then my 18 year old sister, that's for sure. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Silly children.. .. you can't learn to drive from GTA. Sort your story out. And what's this? A 40 year old hitting a 26 year old? I sense a plaaayerr. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058864926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaraBella Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I'm not Pagan, I'm an atheist and the word "atheistic" should be changed to "rational". Please tell me that's a joke? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058865375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Pain. Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Well, don't get me wrong, I definitely agree that it's surely irresponsible, but it's simply something that does not happen that way, at least not in the U.S. Most parents are up if they can be to help their kid get on the bus, but very very few of them are up there getting them on it every day. And a large percentage of them work and aren't there to watch their kids get on the bus at all. I know this is just how it was with me and all my siblings, how it was with my neighbors, friends, and how I'm sure it is with many people. Even the U.S. government's bus safety website's area for parents says nothing about watching your kid getting on the bus, but rather focuses on teaching them the correct response and reaction if they miss the bus or a stranger approaches or something. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058866352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mar Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 How did a six year old get GTA and the Monster Jam game. They both are violent and are not for six year olds. (GTA = M Monster Jam = T) When I was playing GTA my little brother would usually drive the cars around and do his random things. ( He didn't really know about the pretty bad stuff like prostitutes) He was probably around 8 or 9 at the time. Parents should usually research games if they're letting anyone under 10 play Mature games. Just for the sakes of them getting scared out of their pants, example: Silent Hill, Suffering, Resident Evil. But most mature games are alright, as long are people are comfortable with their kids hearing cuss words all the time. But that's the thing. They AREN'T supposed to hear them like that. I suppose your going to punish your child after he curses because he heard it in a game you let him play because you think its harmless? Same goes for movies, music, etc... There is only so much a parent can do to prevent that from happening. Really, I would rather them know what was a good word or a bad word and know the meaning. Because the more you hide something from a child, the more they're more likely to do whatever it is you're hiding from them. My father raised me and let me do pretty much whatever it was I desired, but he let me know what was good or bad. Now, I'm not saying this is the best way to raise your child, but I don't curse around children and I wouldn't consider myself to be lowering the society any. My pet peeve is curse words. There is no point in trying to hide them from you're children because they're going to hear it. No matter how hard you shelter them. And replacing them with "dang" "shoot" and "stupid" is just as bad as saying the word yourself. So, really cussing isn't the worst part of mature games. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058866398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hl_world Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 And by bashing people that believe in God, does this make you and better than the Religious Holy Rollers who bash your lack of belief in said God? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... Where are you going with this? You've basically compared my beliefs which rely on evidence and reason with their beliefs which rely on Bronze Age texts. Don't waste my time with this bullsh*t. Try doing some research on the subject and come up with something better than that. Please tell me that's a joke? People don't deserve labels for their skepticism of self-contradicting folklore. You don't believe in Zeus or Thor but no-one calls you an azeusist or ahammerist. Just because we are a minority in the world doesn't mean we should be automatically labelled. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058866708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iYateszy Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The boy told police he learned to drive playing Grand Theft Auto and Monster Truck Jam video games. You don't get good at driving by playing video games, it was by sheer luck he got as far as he did and didn't get killed or hit any other vehicle. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058866776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo11 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Bloody Americans, little brat steals one stick car and prangs it, but lets all thank the lord that allowed him to steal and prang it.......God save America Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058866786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Pain. Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Most parents actually care little or none about their children at all, or they clearly favour one over the other. It's unfair and unjust, but we can't do much to stop it. We can't just march into their homes and demand them to love their children equally and look after them until they are ready to go out to the real world themselves. (Oh, wait..) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058867953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Bloody Americans, little brat steals one stick car and prangs it, but lets all thank the lord that allowed him to steal and prang it.......God save America Yeah, because there's no chance this could have happened in a country other than America. He tried to drive just because he was living in America. I can definitely see the logic in that. In all honesty, I usually don't mind American stereotypes at all, but please, be stupid somewhere else. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058868297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gta Guy 108 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 The parents had no idea he was gone, and they blame it on them, even though the kid was responsible for it all. Geez. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058870845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceo242k1 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 And by bashing people that believe in God, does this make you and better than the Religious Holy Rollers who bash your lack of belief in said God? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... Where are you going with this? You've basically compared my beliefs which rely on evidence and reason with their beliefs which rely on Bronze Age texts. Don't waste my time with this bullsh*t. Try doing some research on the subject and come up with something better than that. Please tell me that's a joke? People don't deserve labels for their skepticism of self-contradicting folklore. You don't believe in Zeus or Thor but no-one calls you an azeusist or ahammerist. Just because we are a minority in the world doesn't mean we should be automatically labelled. Dude, there is no difference. Neither side, yours or theirs, can prove the other is correct. So either side saying something derogatory of the other will make you(or them) look like self-righteous douche. No research needed for that. There is absolutely no PALPABLE evidence that suggests that there is, or is not, a God. People choose what makes more sense to them, which is why there are so many difference vehicles to the same perceived destination. Furthermore, dont pretend to be a martyr for the atheistic cause, you just labeled all people who believe in God, such as myself, to be foolish blowhards that follow Bronze Age folklore. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058871971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hl_world Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Dude, there is no difference. Neither side, yours or theirs, can prove the other is correct. So either side saying something derogatory of the other will make you(or them) look like self-righteous douche. No research needed for that. God is a suggested idea put forward by man, it is up to whoever believes to prove their side. The burden of proof is not on us. And just because neither side can be proven doesn't mean they are equally likely to be true *throws in Russell's teapot argument*. There is absolutely no PALPABLE evidence that suggests that there is, or is not, a God. People choose what makes more sense to them, which is why there are so many difference vehicles to the same perceived destination. People don't choose what makes more sense to them. They are indoctrinated with these ideologies from birth. Religion is a meme but is harming humanity (and human dignity) like a virus. Furthermore, dont pretend to be a martyr for the atheistic cause, you just labeled all people who believe in God, such as myself, to be foolish blowhards that follow Bronze Age folklore. I'm not a martyr for atheism; I'm a strong supporter- use a dictionary. I have no intention of ever sacrificing my life for ANY cause because we atheists have a better understanding of the TRUE nature of death. You ARE just foolish blowhards who believe in Bronze Age folklore because that's where your faith comes from. It's not like you witnessed a supernatural event like God appearing to you. What you have to do is find out just why you believe this sh*t, stop defending your ignorance and gain some REAL knowledge. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058873581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikofan112 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hmm, says a lot about a forum when a topic about a 6 year old stealing a car turns into a religious argument because of one throw-away statement made by a police officer. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058873923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hmm, says a lot about a forum when a topic about a 6 year old stealing a car turns into a religious argument because of one throw-away statement made by a police officer. Which topic on any forum wouldn't come down to this if someone makes a religious statement? Says a lot about how religion sucks the fun out of everything. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058874100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceo242k1 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) Dude, there is no difference. Neither side, yours or theirs, can prove the other is correct. So either side saying something derogatory of the other will make you(or them) look like self-righteous douche. No research needed for that. God is a suggested idea put forward by man, it is up to whoever believes to prove their side. The burden of proof is not on us. And just because neither side can be proven doesn't mean they are equally likely to be true *throws in Russell's teapot argument*. There is absolutely no PALPABLE evidence that suggests that there is, or is not, a God. People choose what makes more sense to them, which is why there are so many difference vehicles to the same perceived destination. People don't choose what makes more sense to them. They are indoctrinated with these ideologies from birth. Religion is a meme but is harming humanity (and human dignity) like a virus. Furthermore, dont pretend to be a martyr for the atheistic cause, you just labeled all people who believe in God, such as myself, to be foolish blowhards that follow Bronze Age folklore. I'm not a martyr for atheism; I'm a strong supporter- use a dictionary. I have no intention of ever sacrificing my life for ANY cause because we atheists have a better understanding of the TRUE nature of death. You ARE just foolish blowhards who believe in Bronze Age folklore because that's where your faith comes from. It's not like you witnessed a supernatural event like God appearing to you. What you have to do is find out just why you believe this sh*t, stop defending your ignorance and gain some REAL knowledge. Martyrdom was used in a sarcastic tone. Stop taking things so G*d damned literally, Christ. (Pun) Whoever made the suggestion is irrelevant, again I say that religion, while yes, can be inherited through families and societies, is still ultimately a personal decision, much like the decision to not believe it. Just because it is a social more (dictionary approved ) does not mean its accepted by all. You are still calling my belief sh*t, which means you are still missing the point of my aregument. You say that just because you dont believe in God, that you should not be labeled or looked down upon. Which I agree with. But that said, what gives you the right to say my belief is sh*t? If we're supposed to leave you and your beliefs alone, then you owe me(us) the same courtesy. That, is why I'm saying you are the pot calling the kettle black. And whether youre going to admit it or not, you just restated the point made in my previous point about whether or not there is proof. I am willing to accept that God exists, even though I (or anyone else) can't see physical evidence of his presence. It is said that faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of thing not seen. I have faith that I am right. That is my opinion, my belief, and my God given constitutional right to do so. You do not believe that, and that's fine, We'll see who is right when we're both worm food. But until then, learn to truly respect other people's beliefs and decisions before you whine and complain about getting generalized for yours. No one has judged you insulted you, yet you feel compelled to insult anyone who doesnt believe what you do. This is hypocrisy (dictionary approved ) in its purest form. As for your REAL knowledge - Real intelligent people have learned to temper their knowledge with humility. Edited January 13, 2009 by maceo242k1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058874228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutboy Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Dude, there is no difference. Neither side, yours or theirs, can prove the other is correct. So either side saying something derogatory of the other will make you(or them) look like self-righteous douche. No research needed for that. God is a suggested idea put forward by man, it is up to whoever believes to prove their side. The burden of proof is not on us. And just because neither side can be proven doesn't mean they are equally likely to be true *throws in Russell's teapot argument*. There is absolutely no PALPABLE evidence that suggests that there is, or is not, a God. People choose what makes more sense to them, which is why there are so many difference vehicles to the same perceived destination. People don't choose what makes more sense to them. They are indoctrinated with these ideologies from birth. Religion is a meme but is harming humanity (and human dignity) like a virus. Furthermore, dont pretend to be a martyr for the atheistic cause, you just labeled all people who believe in God, such as myself, to be foolish blowhards that follow Bronze Age folklore. I'm not a martyr for atheism; I'm a strong supporter- use a dictionary. I have no intention of ever sacrificing my life for ANY cause because we atheists have a better understanding of the TRUE nature of death. You ARE just foolish blowhards who believe in Bronze Age folklore because that's where your faith comes from. It's not like you witnessed a supernatural event like God appearing to you. What you have to do is find out just why you believe this sh*t, stop defending your ignorance and gain some REAL knowledge. Martyrdom was used in a sarcastic tone. Stop taking things so G*d damned literally, Christ. (Pun) Whoever made the suggestion is irrelevant, again I say that religion, while yes, can be inherited through families and societies, is still ultimately a personal decision, much like the decision to not believe it. Just because it is a social more (dictionary approved ) does not mean its accepted by all. You are still calling my belief sh*t, which means you are still missing the point of my aregument. You say that just because you dont believe in God, that you should not be labeled or looked down upon. Which I agree with. But that said, what gives you the right to say my belief is sh*t? If we're supposed to leave you and your beliefs alone, then you owe me(us) the same courtesy. That, is why I'm saying you are the pot calling the kettle black. And whether youre going to admit it or not, you just restated the point made in my previous point about whether or not there is proof. I am willing to accept that God exists, even though I (or anyone else) can't see physical evidence of his presence. It is said that faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of thing not seen. I have faith that I am right. That is my opinion, my belief, and my God given constitutional right to do so. You do not believe that, and that's fine, We'll see who is right when we're both worm food. But until then, learn to truly respect other people's beliefs and decisions before you whine and complain about getting generalized for yours. No one has judged you insulted you, yet you feel compelled to insult anyone who doesnt believe what you do. This is hypocrisy (dictionary approved ) in its purest form. As for your REAL knowledge - Real intelligent people have learned to temper their knowledge with humility. I love you........ Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058875919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hl_world Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Whoever made the suggestion is irrelevant Well, it all depends on what you mean by "whoever". If we are only talking about certain members of the human race then it IS irrelevant but if "whoever" includes any supernatural deities then it is obviously relevant. again I say that religion, while yes, can be inherited through families and societies, is still ultimately a personal decision, much like the decision to not believe it. Here we enter a field known as psychology. Religions use extremes to manipulate peoples motivations i.e. eternity of bliss or eternity of suffering. Children raised by religious parents are indoctrinated to believe this and not question from the time they are able to speak. This makes them closed-minded when they are more mature, they are unable to accept evidence which is contradictory to what they have been taught. Their childhood brainwashing makes "personal decision" irrelevant. Think about how a reasonable, intelligent person makes personal decisions- they are based on reason and experience. what gives you the right to say my belief is sh*t? If we're supposed to leave you and your beliefs alone, then you owe me(us) the same courtesy. You aren't talking to a theist from another religion, arguing your teachings over mine. We are different because we happen to be right. We get our knowledge from evidence and rationality, not ancient texts. This makes us a lot less vulnerable from believing the crazy or dishonest people. That, is why I'm saying you are the pot calling the kettle black. And whether youre going to admit it or not, you just restated the point made in my previous point about whether or not there is proof. If you're talking about no proof of there not being a god, I didn't say their was but look at my previous post, right there where I mention Russell's teapot. This is the age of Google and Wikipedia, look that up instead of missing points. I am willing to accept that God exists, even though I (or anyone else) can't see physical evidence of his presence. It is said that faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of thing not seen. I have faith that I am right. This is why I feel like I'm going in circles trying to reason with a theist. In my prevous post I suggested that you look into just why you believe this garbage. People don't just believe in things for no reason; it is likely you were brought up to believe. That is my opinion, my belief, and my God given constitutional right to do so. You have a constitutional right to believe (which by the way, wasn't god given but by the secular founding fathers) but you don't have any rights for your belief to be respected. Do we protect the respect of those who believe that Elvis is still alive? You do not believe that, and that's fine, We'll see who is right when we're both worm food. I really doubt that. If there WAS an afterlife but it didn't resemble that of the one in Judeo Christian or whatever teachings. You would probably delude yourself from your real perceptions of it to make it fit your belief from life. I have little faith that even death can change most theists minds. As for me, I would see this afterlife for what it was and accept that my belief in the absence of an afterlife was wrong. But until then, learn to truly respect other people's beliefs and decisions before you whine and complain about getting generalized for yours. No one has judged you insulted you, yet you feel compelled to insult anyone who doesnt believe what you do. This is hypocrisy (dictionary approved ) in its purest form. Again, the argument between rational faith and blind faith. I've covered this. As for hypocrisy, it's all just pick and choose from the bible, torah, quran or whatever. Members of the Westboro Baptist Church are among the truest Christians because they have actually read the bible and follow it more than the vast majority but they are still hypocrits because to follow ALL of Jesus' teachings, you have to give away all of your possessions. Noone wants to do this, not because it's just plain retarded but because it's just too inconvenient. As for your REAL knowledge - Real intelligent people have learned to temper their knowledge with humility. That's no going to happen as long as religion remains one of the sources of the worlds problems. Sorry. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058876896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QwertyAAA Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) BOTH OF YOU SHUT THE FµCKING HELL UP! Forum safety tip #1: Seriously, mates. Edited January 14, 2009 by QwertyAAA Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058876914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maceo242k1 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I love you........ Right back at ya, toots. Here we enter a field known as psychology. Religions use extremes to manipulate peoples motivations i.e. eternity of bliss or eternity of suffering. Children raised by religious parents are indoctrinated to believe this and not question from the time they are able to speak. This makes them closed-minded when they are more mature, they are unable to accept evidence which is contradictory to what they have been taught. Their childhood brainwashing makes "personal decision" irrelevant. Think about how a reasonable, intelligent person makes personal decisions- they are based on reason and experience. Not everyone is dragged to the cloth, many people has some sort of experience which leads them to seek more information. I dont feel myself to be close-minded at all. I am open to other peoples views and opinions, which may or may not line up with my own. This is something of a bone that I am picking with you, because you are so convicted in your non-belief, that you are trying to railroad mine. I (and many others) made the personal decision to join a church, read a bible, pray, etc. Not until irrefutable evidence is turned up somewhere that God is indeed a 6'4" purple haired hippie ( ) the original Bush Administration used to scare us straight, will I stop believing that he exists. You aren't talking to a theist from another religion, arguing your teachings over mine. We are different because we happen to be right. We get our knowledge from evidence and rationality, not ancient texts. This makes us a lot less vulnerable from believing the crazy or dishonest people. Get over yourself already... You are just as bad as the super rightwinged religi-nuts who cut themselves to show God's amazing healing powers. All hail the know it alls. I'm dont with the quotefest here, but the basic gist of my argument, is that you have no right to bash another's belief. You don't KNOW it to be wrong, you only BELIEVE it to be wrong. If you were such a scholar on the right/wrongs of religion then why dont you take your act on the road & teach the masses? Its because your Belief, just like mine, are exactly that, BELIEFS. That said, I respect yours, why not respect mine? And about the whole walk like jesus thing you are throwing around - You are missing the whole point of Jesus's life. It doesnt say anywhere in the Bible that you should walk around giving all your earthly belongings away. Its just as stupid in the Bible as it is in real life. Jesus lived as an example of a perfect christian, however (this is for those of us that believe this, mind you) he died in order to allow ordinary people who dont live perfectly, to still be recieved as God's children, as long as they believe that he existed. Its really not as convoluted and difficult as all the different denominations make it out to be. Again whether you beleive it or not, is a choice, not a chore. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058876962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Allow me to get this thing back on topic: Holy sh*t a 6 year old driving. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/390738-6-year-old-drives-to-school-after-he-misses-the-bu/page/4/#findComment-1058876966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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