I finally "cracked" all performance walls!,

[ron123]

I so hate most of your replays, I already posted many help threads for better performance, I got to much replays from idiots that say that I can't help or just cheating you.

I said that It will take some time (you should'nt push to close my threads).

 

so again:

my specs: Q6600 2.4 GHZ, 2 Gb of DDR2 RAM 800 MHZ, 9800GT 512 Mb of VRAM, and Win XP SP3

 

my benchmark:

Statistics

Average FPS: 27.63

Duration: 37.49 sec

CPU Usage: 65%

System memory usage: 94%

Video memory usage: 60%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Render Quality: Highest

View Distance: 100

Detail Distance: 100

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Service Pack 3

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT

Video Driver version: 185.20

Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz

 

File ID: benchmark.cli

 

first prove:

(watch in high quality).

Download file for better quality from here.

 

Now I want that someone will tell me thanx for your time and efforts , and I explain in details (easily) how I "boost peformance", "solve bugs" and avoid the so called "memory leak"

 

Note: I will post extra proves of smooth long gameplay.

 

Edit:

 

No welcome

 

How it works?

-It is pretty simple.

 

In three steps:

 

Before dealing with performance you should: download latest driver and patch and swith off the clip capture option.

 

The three steps to the heaven of GTA IV:

1, Use in commandline:"-availablevidmem x.xx -novblank "- don't use "norestrictions"

2. Before loading your save file, open task manager, put GTA IV in high priority and close "social club".

3. Run Windows in a clean mode: press "start", then "run", type their "msconfig", in "genetal" press "selective startup" uncheck first second and fuorth marks, then look in this window for "services", press it, than mark "hide all microsoft services", after it press "Disable all", then press apply and restart windows in a clean mod, you will see that most of your games will run better, in the new mod don't enter the Internet and other programs (only games), from "msconfig" you can choose "Normal startup" for going beck to all of your programs (will restart windows). -this helps the performance and solve the "memory leak".

Closing social club will stable the game in the long term.

The commandeline solve 99.9% of the "bugs" problems and let you choose more higher settings (like norestrictions).

 

I didn't invent those steps, just tested them all together in high settings .

 

Edit number 2

 

Second prove: to those that say that I am getting 15 fps I will show that this benchmark (useing the command availablevidmem) gives closer marks to the reality, I am getting outside real 25-30 fps in average and 20 in massive shooting\bombing, I am running the game almost without bugs and the "memory leak" for a long term.

Here: 1920x1200 max settings 10 min

.

 

here is few screenshots of this gameplay:

 

 

 

Note: about mirmihir for his: "Open regedit and go to hkey local machine/system/current control set/control/session manager/memory management and change disablepagingexecutive and largesystemcache to 1" - this really works, changing the "fage file usage" to min always helpfull, I readed It in Microsoft's site about thier games.(the posted gameplay without mirmihir's tweak)

Edited January 5, 2009 by ron123

[Lutra78]

Now tell us the trick.

Edited January 4, 2009 by Lutra78

[Kurgen]

 

Kid, get over yourself.

 

Everything you've suggested has already been done by many people over the last 4 weeks. Most of it is pure placebo; the illusion of having improved performance, and I have to say, for you to have the gall to expect applause for "all you've done to help", is frankly hilarious. Again, get over yourself.

 

 

[Marcin6]

AHahaha i`ve gut more fps without fixind or something else

What a idiot omg ban him !

[Patrickadizzle]

You want us to thank you when all you have done is showed a video benchmark?

 

 

Why are you so smug? Just post your instructions and surely people with thank you if it actually works.

 

[Marcin6]

He do nothing , he is just a idiot !

[vanmies]

once again...

 

tell us what have you done and we will try it.

 

if it works, perfect. there will be the proof.

[Lurkingsockpuppet]

Yeah man, thanks goes to where thanks is due... And I'm not going to thank someone for wasting my time with little finger shows and hearts.....

Post the fix, if it works, you'll get you thanks....

 

 

[Kurgen]

Guys, it's nothing... it's the same old vidmem trick that's been doing the rounds here for weeks now. What the OP hasn't done, is tested it to see whether his game collapses in a heap of 2fps chunks after half-an-hour.

 

 

[xXGraemeXx]

so umm are you gonna tell us what you did?

[gta-man22]

thanx for your time and efforts doing nothing but waste internet space.

[Rhazzy]

Well u got 27 fps on 1920x1200 MAX settings in that sh*ty benchmark...but if u go INGAME U WILL PROLLY HAVE 15-20...

i have 64 fps on the benchmark @ the settings in my sig...but INGAME most of the time i have only 40-50.

[Kurgen]

Well u got 27 fps on 1920x1200 MAX settings in that sh*ty benchmark...but if u go INGAME U WILL PROLLY HAVE 15-20...

i have 64 fps on the benchmark @ the settings in my sig...but INGAME most of the time i have only 40-50.

True.

 

 

[FX2K]

I dont get it... he shows us a crap benchmark which doesnt represent the gameplay atall then asks for a thank you...

A thanks for what ?? We can all get benchmark results, unless your opening multiple threads on the same subject ?

 

I wonder... can you actually play the game for any more than 30 seconds ?

[Sethos]

I found another "trick" or guideline,

 

After the benchmark take a look at these numbers,

 

CPU Usage: x%

System memory usage: x%

Video memory usage: x%

 

 

If any of these are in the 9x% you know where to 'tweak'. Like my CPU usage was 94% and memory was 48% and video mem. was 79%.

 

So I overclocked my CPU about 350 MHz and bang, 11 extra FPS on the top. Now my video memory is limiting, then I can start reducing details that take up video memory in the graphical options to gain even more FPS.

 

Now I play at an in-game average of 40+ FPS.

 

 

It's nice a string to follow.

[Chevyboy]

We'll I get just a tad over 50 FPS in the in game benchmark with all settings maxed except draw distance and I can certainly tell you that is NOT even close to what I average in game. 35-42 FPS average, the lower being in star junction.

 

Your benchmark of 27 will lead to a best case scenario of averaging 15-18 FPS in game, I would suspect the "lows" would be closer to 10 FPS. Now all I'll add is that you and I have very different opinions of what "smooth and enjoyable" gameplay is.

 

Move along now, won't get your 15 minutes of fame here, especially when you come out asking for it.

[aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

I so hate most of your replays, I already posted many help threads for better performance, I got to much replays from idiots that say that I can't help or just cheating you.

I said that It will take some time (you should'nt push to close my threads).

 

so again:

my specs: Q6600 2.4 GHZ, 2 Gb of DDR2 RAM 800 MHZ, 9800GT 512 Mb of VRAM, and Win XP SP3

 

my benchmark:

Statistics

Average FPS: 27.63

Duration: 37.49 sec

CPU Usage: 65%

System memory usage: 94%

Video memory usage: 60%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Render Quality: Highest

View Distance: 100

Detail Distance: 100

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Service Pack 3

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT

Video Driver version: 185.20

Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz

 

File ID: benchmark.cli

 

first prove:

(watch in high quality).

Download file for better quality from here.

 

Now I want that someone will tell me thanx for your time and efforts , and I explain in details (easily) how I "boost peformance", "solve bugs" and avoid the so called "memory leak"

 

Note: I will post extra proves of smooth long gameplay.

 

Edit:

 

No welcome

 

How it works?

-It is pretty simple.

 

In three steps:

 

Before dealing with performance you should: download latest driver and patch and swith off the clip capture option.

 

The three steps to the heaven of GTA IV:

1, Use in commandline:"-availablevidmem x.xx -novblank "- don't use "norestrictions"

2. Before loading your save file, open task manager, put GTA IV in high priority and close "social club".

3. Run Windows in a clean mode: press "start", then "run", type their "msconfig", in "genetal" press "selective startup" uncheck first second and fuorth marks, then look in this window for "services", press it, than mark "hide all microsoft services", after it press "Disable all", then press apply and restart windows in a clean mod, you will see that most of your games will run better, in the new mod don't enter the Internet and other programs (only games), from "msconfig" you can choose "Normal startup" for going beck to all of your programs (will restart windows). -this helps the performance and solve the "memory leak".

Closing social club will stable the game in the long term.

The commandeline solve 99.9% of the "bugs" problems and let you choose more higher settings (like norestrictions).

 

I didn't invent those steps, just tested them all together in high settings .

You are idiot 27fps in bencmark is good? There should be 50 minimum. Its unplayable, you at best will get 15fps in game.

[craig3000]

your funny !

 

if you have 512mb of VRAM high texture quality will not work as it suppose to why well the reason textures are in VRAM is because its incredibly fast, if it runs out of VRAM it will put textures in RAM therefore taking much longer to show up etc etc OR it will not bother showing the textures at all so ok you may be able to have some text saying high texture quality BUT all the high quality textures will not be showing hence why there is not much of a performance hit because the game does simply not show them!!!

 

i too with my 512mb VRAM can get high textures running at roughly same FPS but does that mean its all be showing NOOOO

 

the loading of textures is bad all ready within restrictions using high textures that far exceed the amount of VRAM you have will just make it worse

 

if the textures on high worked with a 512mb GPU with almost no performance hit dont you think that it wouldnt be restricted

 

you make me LOL

 

 

OH YE and also availablevidmem makes the game use more ram than VRAM therefore slowing FPS or loading of textures

 

before i had the commandline i was running with a slightly higher FPS and memory usage was norm

 

after the command line more of the ram was being used and i think Vram was at 30%usage which is LOW which will if anything decrease performance as VRAM is faster

 

 

I would also like to add you do not need to change CPU priority on vista as it does this automatically with full screen APPS aka games

 

cacheboost can also help mem leaks and improve performance

Edited January 4, 2009 by craig3000

[bukkit]

so : 27 fps in bench?

enjoy your smooth 15fps gameplay kid

 

-but to clean up the processes is a good idea , but its nothing new ! why another thread ? also whats the point of that 'proof' ? ur just proving that the game run like crap on your pc

 

-wanna fps boost ? OC the CPU

[Skythe]

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=390163

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=390140

 

Can you not take a hint?

[Phuzion]

EpicFailure.

[nynth.plague]

Look; lets not give the kid to much sh!t.

 

I admit i have seen this done before. I mean hell, WE HAVE ALL TRIED THESE THINGS TO IMPROVE OUR GAMEPLAY... but the fact of the matter is R* did a sh!t port.

 

Until it is fixed on THEIR end, resorting to closing down startup processes in MSCONFIG & command lining the sh!t (FFS) will have to get afew of you through this game.

 

I think he did good, but as we all know; everyones computer is different and runs this game differently. Unless we all have the EXACT same specs, EXACT same amount of HDD SPACE, FRAGMENTED to perfection, CLEAN install of Windows XP... the tweaks that work for one will not work for another as expected.

 

I will say; good work ron123 .

[HomoUniversalis]

You have to appreciate his determination, however. He promised he would no longer post in the first thread where he posted his revolutionary solution, so he made a second.

 

I wonder whether he dislikes me dispassionately in this one as well.

[Kurgen]

Look; lets not give the kid to much sh!t.

 

I will say; good work ron123 .

Why? He didn't do anything that hadn't been done before, and the worst part, apart from his spamming the same crap in three different threads, is that he was claiming he'd figured it all out himself! He's a sham, and a dishonest, stealer of ideas. All that, and he hadn't even reported anything that worked anyway.

 

See my sig for details :

[neildittmar]

3. Run Windows in a clean mode: press "start", then "run", type their "msconfig", in "genetal" press "selective startup" uncheck first second and fuorth marks, then look in this window for "services", press it, than mark "hide all microsoft services", after it press "Disable all", then press apply and restart windows in a clean mod, you will see that most of your games will run better, in the new mod don't enter the Internet and other programs (only games), from "msconfig" you can choose "Normal startup" for going beck to all of your programs (will restart windows). -this helps the performance and solve the "memory leak".

I would heavily recommend against doing that one, at least in the way the OP has suggested. I'm all for running Windows as clean as possible by eliminating extraneous processes and services, as well as unnecessary startup tasks. However, doing it en masse like that can (and probably will) cause problems. Some critical hardware devices (like sound cards, network cards, etc) can have processes and services running on startup in order to function correctly. Doing a blanket disable of these will result in those types of hardware devices not working anymore. Also, some software requires (or greatly benefits from) processes and services that are run during startup. Again, disabling this software without knowing what you're doing can cause these applications to exhibit poor performance, have stability issues, or possibly not run at all.

 

As an alternative to the quoted suggestion, I would recommend doing things the other way around. That is, identifying the startup processes and services that you specifically don't need and disabling those, rather than disabling all but the critical Windows services in one fell swoop. While I would use msconfig to disable unnecessary items on the "Startup" tab, I would not be inclined to use this utility for services. They are much more effectively managed from the Services applet (Start - Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Services). Additionally, you'll want to have a look in the Startup folder in Start - All Programs to see what it contains, and delete any ones you specifically deem to be unnecessary.

 

As for determining which startup processes and services are necessary and which ones aren't? A Google search on the process name, as well as the description of the service in the Services applet should tell you everything you need to know.

[Anach]

All you're doing in this guide is freeing up memory. Which is a good idea if you only have 2gig of RAM available. Social club can take up a lot and many people run a lot of crap in the background that can take up memory. As the game has a nasty memory leak, having more memory available should slow it, but it's unlikely that it will help FPS, unless you dont have enough memory available initially.

 

 

[nick18]

This ron123 guy is an obvious troll, just lock the thread already and stop replying to him.

[How-To-Improve-GTA-IV]

I so hate most of your replays, I already posted many help threads for better performance, I got to much replays from idiots that say that I can't help or just cheating you.

I said that It will take some time (you should'nt push to close my threads).

 

so again:

my specs: Q6600 2.4 GHZ, 2 Gb of DDR2 RAM 800 MHZ, 9800GT 512 Mb of VRAM, and Win XP SP3

 

my benchmark:

Statistics

Average FPS: 27.63

Duration: 37.49 sec

CPU Usage: 65%

System memory usage: 94%

Video memory usage: 60%

 

Graphics Settings

Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz)

Texture Quality: High

Render Quality: Highest

View Distance: 100

Detail Distance: 100

 

Hardware

Microsoft Windows XP Professional

Service Pack 3

Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT

Video Driver version: 185.20

Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output

Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz

 

File ID: benchmark.cli

 

first prove:

(watch in high quality).

Download file for better quality from here.

 

Now I want that someone will tell me thanx for your time and efforts , and I explain in details (easily) how I "boost peformance", "solve bugs" and avoid the so called "memory leak"

 

Note: I will post extra proves of smooth long gameplay.

 

Edit:

 

No welcome

 

How it works?

-It is pretty simple.

 

In three steps:

 

Before dealing with performance you should: download latest driver and patch and swith off the clip capture option.

 

The three steps to the heaven of GTA IV:

1, Use in commandline:"-availablevidmem x.xx -novblank "- don't use "norestrictions"

2. Before loading your save file, open task manager, put GTA IV in high priority and close "social club".

3. Run Windows in a clean mode: press "start", then "run", type their "msconfig", in "genetal" press "selective startup" uncheck first second and fuorth marks, then look in this window for "services", press it, than mark "hide all microsoft services", after it press "Disable all", then press apply and restart windows in a clean mod, you will see that most of your games will run better, in the new mod don't enter the Internet and other programs (only games), from "msconfig" you can choose "Normal startup" for going beck to all of your programs (will restart windows). -this helps the performance and solve the "memory leak".

Closing social club will stable the game in the long term.

The commandeline solve 99.9% of the "bugs" problems and let you choose more higher settings (like norestrictions).

 

I didn't invent those steps, just tested them all together in high settings .

Sorry. An average of 27 fps is quiete disappointing! And you are talking from the ingame benchmark! You did not really fix the bad performance. You'll have only 15 FPS in many many many many ... cases while playing playing playing playing... this game! GTA IV's benchmark tool sucks.

[thales100]

All lies jeez ...

[xKingKaz]

i have a noob question

 

what is a commandline lol

 

where do i type that stuff because i want to play on high textures