Chewie Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 So I am just driving around to a transfender, and i came across this. I didn't mod it. I don't no how to mod. Does anyone know what the hell this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!GC!! Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 That to me looks as though it was a territory you took over, then the Ballas tried to gain it back and you left the attack unchecked, meaning you lost influence. When this happens, the territory goes a dull shade of green and it is kind of neutral territory. m3ssO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Basically, it's a disputed territory. This means that both Ballas and GSF will spawn within its boundaries, and of course they will have spontaneous fights among each other. It takes a few lost gang wars to completely lose a territory and Grove Street is completely forced out. Retake it like you would any solid Balla/Vago territory, and it will be green after winning a gang war. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!GC!! Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Basically, it's a disputed territory. This means that both Ballas and GSF will spawn within its boundaries, and of course they will have spontaneous fights among each other. It takes a few lost gang wars to completely lose a territory and Grove Street is completely forced out. Retake it like you would any solid Balla/Vago territory, and it will be green after winning a gang war. Yeah, but the territory will never be extremely green afterwards. It'll go a noticeable, light shade of green and once this happens, the Ballas will stop spawning in it so you cant take the territory again and it will stay light green. It is s shame you cannot reinforce a territory to get them all quite a dark shade of green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I've had this happen a few times. CJ was wasted in one of the Waves. Had to go back and restart a zone war there. Even though CJ won it back and had 100% territory takeover There were continued attempts to take a zone back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 There were continued attempts to take a zone back. There are always going to be as long as Ballas or Vagos have a territory nearby. It's been awhile since I've messed with the gang wars....doesn't a light green territory get more solid green the more you defend it over time? Seemed like that was the case. "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I've found that if any territory isn't taken on the First Attempt there will be attempts by b or v to take back zones unrelated to the location. I have had 100% captures. And They will still attempt to take back zones that are TOTALY surround by solid green. So to me the 'nearby' business is just twaddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I have had 100% captures. And They will still attempt to take back zones that are TOTALY surround by solid green. So to me the 'nearby' business is just twaddle. Usually in my experience the ones that catch the most attacks will be bordering a rival territory. After you do 100% takeover it might be more random. Not sure, since that's one of the very few things I haven't really bothered to do in SA. Never saw the point in it. I kinda think the gang wars are fun "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Basically, it's a disputed territory. This means that both Ballas and GSF will spawn within its boundaries, and of course they will have spontaneous fights among each other. It takes a few lost gang wars to completely lose a territory and Grove Street is completely forced out. Retake it like you would any solid Balla/Vago territory, and it will be green after winning a gang war. But you can not completely lose a territory? I have tried to let them completely take a territory from me, and the territory loses green color and eventually becomes totally grey. And there will still be Grove members spawning in it. Yeah, but the territory will never be extremely green afterwards.It'll go a noticeable, light shade of green and once this happens, the Ballas will stop spawning in it so you cant take the territory again and it will stay light green. It is s shame you cannot reinforce a territory to get them all quite a dark shade of green. I have lost influence many times, and when I take it back it will become fully green again. All my territories have the same shade of green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainland Marauder Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Basically, it's a disputed territory. This means that both Ballas and GSF will spawn within its boundaries, and of course they will have spontaneous fights among each other. It takes a few lost gang wars to completely lose a territory and Grove Street is completely forced out. Retake it like you would any solid Balla/Vago territory, and it will be green after winning a gang war. But you can not completely lose a territory? I have tried to let them completely take a territory from me, and the territory loses green color and eventually becomes totally grey. And there will still be Grove members spawning in it. Did you choose not to defend it not once, but several times when it was being attacked? Meaning that you saw it come up as being attacked once, didn't go over there (or did and got killed), then later it got attacked again and you chose to do the same thing? I've never really let that happen, so it might be something for me to experiment with. I do have a 100% completion save where I only control about 40% of gang territories. On another note, sometimes gang members can spawn outside the fringes of their territories, especially if you were coming from one into another. Going across the bridge that passes over the freeway between Ganton and East Los Santos, I've sometimes seen a stray Balla or two appear on the Ganton side. If you stay in the Grove territory though, you won't see any more. I've seen the same thing with Groves appearing on the other side occasionally. Sure this didn't happen at all in the territory you were trying to lose? "You tell me exactly what you want, and I'll explain to you very carefully why it cannot be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG Viking Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Did you choose not to defend it not once, but several times when it was being attacked? Meaning that you saw it come up as being attacked once, didn't go over there (or did and got killed), then later it got attacked again and you chose to do the same thing? Yes, I let them conquer the same territory over and over again. Many times. When it became grey with no shade of green, nothing more happened. It would not get purple/yellow color. It stayed grey. I don't remember how many times I let them "win" the gang war, but it was many times for each turf. I have done this with both the purple and the yellow gang. On another note, sometimes gang members can spawn outside the fringes of their territories, especially if you were coming from one into another. Yes that happens all the time, so you have to keep that in mind. In the grey turfs, about half of the gang traffic (cars/peds) are GSF, the other half would be the other gang. Gang members are also a bit less aggressive to the rival gang. They will fight, but they often don't care about rivals nearby. If a GSF member inside a GSF turf spots a rival gangmember, he will be more aggressive and attack at once. I know that more than one version exists. Maybe this is different on version 1 and 2, and PS2 vs PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixolydian Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 But you can not completely lose a territory? I have tried to let them completely take a territory from me, and the territory loses green color and eventually becomes totally grey. And there will still be Grove members spawning in it. I've tried really hard to lose territories on PC version 1, and it doesn't seem possible. If I leave attacks unchecked, a territory will go from dark green to light green to the green/purple mixture to pale grey. Once the territory is at its most pale, another unchecked attack makes the territory turn dark green again. I've watched it happen time after time after time, and for some reason, I just can't manage to lose any territories. Maybe it's possible to lose them in another version of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy34 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 There's also another way to turn a territory gray. During a territory defense go to the area to make the attackers spawn. Lure them to a rival territory and kill most (preferably all) of them there. It'll say the territory remains yours, but they will have lost influence in the territory where you killed them. If you lead them to a non-gang area and kill them there (for example, non-gang areas south of Temple Drive) the area will become GSF territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!!GC!! Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 If you lead them to a non-gang area and kill them there (for example, non-gang areas south of Temple Drive) the area will become GSF territory. Oh, thanks for telling everyone my trick Could've explained it better at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy34 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Could've explained it better at least. You mean like how it's frustrating sometimes when they get stuck or try to circle around and eat up time and you end up losing influence? So you keep to the sidewalk and if they start trying to circle around you try the sidewalk on the other side of the street? And how sometimes despite your best efforts they still get stuck somewhere? Then you have to wait another half hour for them to attack again? And how you can take over Red County but GSF won't spawn there? (but how people will start to drive savannas there?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAgangbanger Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 1/4/2009 at 12:10 AM, !!GC!! said: Yeah, but the territory will never be extremely green afterwards. It'll go a noticeable, light shade of green and once this happens, the Ballas will stop spawning in it so you cant take the territory again and it will stay light green. It is s shame you cannot reinforce a territory to get them all quite a dark shade of green. Can you get the ballas to take over grey territory and let them make it purple again ? On 1/3/2009 at 5:42 PM, !!GC!! said: That to me looks as though it was a territory you took over, then the Ballas tried to gain it back and you left the attack unchecked, meaning you lost influence. When this happens, the territory goes a dull shade of green and it is kind of neutral territory. Can you let the ballas take over the grey territory and make it purple again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmanCan Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, GTAgangbanger said: Can you get the ballas to take over grey territory and let them make it purple again ? Can you let the ballas take over the grey territory and make it purple again ? I don't know how to make completely purple from the map and their gang attacks are usually happens in random places but you can do this easily on any savegame editors.. Allmost all editors have "Zones" tab and in this tab you should copy similar density of enemy numbers from other zones and save.. for example.. if i remember correctly ballas's stronghold zone must be 30 and if you are trying to get a darkest purple zone you should clear other numbers of gangs, add 30 to ballas and save it.. i've never tried this so it's your responsibility and you should always backup yor save By the way i can't believe you horded 12 Years Old Topic Edited December 30, 2021 by ArmanCan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAgangbanger Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 hours ago, ArmanCan said: I don't know how to make completely purple from the map and their gang attacks are usually happens in random places but you can do this easily on any savegame editors.. Allmost all editors have "Zones" tab and in this tab you should copy similar density of enemy numbers from other zones and save.. for example.. if i remember correctly ballas's stronghold zone must be 30 and if you are trying to get a darkest purple zone you should clear other numbers of gangs, add 30 to ballas and save it.. i've never tried this so it's your responsibility and you should always backup yor save By the way i can't believe you horded 12 Years Old Topic Yeah well the definitive edition came out so I’ve been playing San Andreas on ps5. What do you mean add 30 to ballas ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmanCan Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, GTAgangbanger said: the definitive edition came out I can't help you on DE but in classic San Andreas you can do this with your own responsibility.. Load your save file and choose "Zone".. Now you can choose your zone to edit it.. These are weakest and strongest ballas territories in LS.. when you look at the values you can see the numbers "10" or "40" for ballas.. in mixed territories these numbers are usually "5-5" or "20-20".. if you are true busta and going to create a complete ballas territory you need to reset the Grove's number to 0 and add more ballas.. YufflesGaming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YufflesGaming Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 3 hours ago, ArmanCan said: I can't help you on DE but in classic San Andreas you can do this with your own responsibility.. Spoiler Load your save file and choose "Zone".. Spoiler Now you can choose your zone to edit it.. Spoiler Spoiler These are weakest and strongest ballas territories in LS.. when you look at the values you can see the numbers "10" or "40" for ballas.. in mixed territories these numbers are usually "5-5" or "20-20".. if you are true busta and going to create a complete ballas territory you need to reset the Grove's number to 0 and add more ballas.. Could be remnants of beta territories. https://youtu.be/2vyLOVr-0sk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAgangbanger Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 10 hours ago, ArmanCan said: I can't help you on DE but in classic San Andreas you can do this with your own responsibility.. Load your save file and choose "Zone".. Now you can choose your zone to edit it.. These are weakest and strongest ballas territories in LS.. when you look at the values you can see the numbers "10" or "40" for ballas.. in mixed territories these numbers are usually "5-5" or "20-20".. if you are true busta and going to create a complete ballas territory you need to reset the Grove's number to 0 and add more ballas.. is the save game editor only for the pc version of the game ? or is it also for consoles ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmanCan Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) @GTAgangbanger This is for the PC version of CLASSIC SA Edited December 31, 2021 by ArmanCan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_ Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Territory with influence of the Ballas and GSFF. But judging by the color must have low influence on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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