poro Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Recently as I've been reading these forums, I've seen that a lot of people mock Vista for various reasons. Bad performance, bugs and generally just because everyone else does it. If people have bad performance and crashing, don't blame Vista because of it. It's Rockstars fault. Instead, why wouldn't you read this article and make up your mind after it: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2302500,00.asp What does it tell us? It tells us, that Vista has developed. Yes, it was total garbage when it was released, but after SP1, it has been perfectly fine. Most people hate it, because of their own stupidness. Is UAC annoying you with it's endless prompts? Just f*cking turn it off! If you did read that article, it shows us that Vista SP1 performs as good as or even better than XP SP3 in Supreme Commander, Crysis and World in Conflict, but I can tell you, it's not limited to those games. Most likely there is no difference in GTA IV either, if you use both operating systems correctly. Now, I can also say that I'm not biased on this subject. I have 2 computers with linux, 3 with XP and 2 with Vista. I know what I'm doing. If you know how to use Vista and XP, both will perform mostly the same when it comes to games. So learn the facts or shut the f*ck up! If you see some ignorant bastard around here, who mocks Vista for no apparent reason, or for a bad reason, point them here please. PS. This might not be correct forum to post this, but the anti-Vista crowd lives here, so I'll post it here. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp2018 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Vista sucks get a mac. /end sarcasm Vista is indeed fine. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawly Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I have had experience with both Windows XP and Vista on GTA IV and I can honestly say to you that Vista has more problems than XP. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v00d00m4n Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) poro u deserve a cookie ))) the only thing i hate about vista is soundsubsystem and lack Directsound3d HAL, so most non OpenAL games performing with software processed sound that not even gives me full surround sound(( another thing i hate about sound is damn sound isolation and lack of STEREO MIXER recording device, so i cant record in-game videos with sound and record some sounds as well(( btw UAC isnt that bad) it saved my pc and all important files from lame-noobish kids many times)) i just turning it off for myself and turning on for others)) Brawly, are u saying about PRE Service Pack Vista experience? ))) i never used Vista before SP, so i personaly never seen all these "HUGE MAJOR PROBLEMS" everyone talking around, i believe that most of peoples who talk sh*t about vista never really used it)) its sorta massive self-hypnosis )) U guys should try new Windows "MOJAVE" (google it) its not that sux like Vista )))) ahahaha Edited January 3, 2009 by Voodooman Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTsar Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I hate the VSS feature in vista, its more annoying then UAC because it keeps an invisible ghost copy of program folders in drive C and if you mess up your game the new install will keep using the old invisible files that are messed up instead of the new ones. I now always have to use WinDirStat to be able to see and get rid of a game directories 100% before reinstalling. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoking6 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 XP might run "faster" than vista on VERY LOW END SYSTEMS. For those who say vista is sh*t, well, let me tell you I NEVER had a SINGLE ERROR, or crash or anything on vista. NEVER. Vista is retards proof, smooth, and perfectly stable. I've tried to crash it, I just can't! If you manage to crash it, you are either a IT pro who knows where to hurt it to crash it, or a very unlucky moron. GTA4 never crashed or anything neither. NEVER. You know what's the problem with GTA4? It's the "console type gamers" community who can't use a comp that should go home to their consoles. "Do you want to allow moderators to moderate this post?" [ ] Yes [X] No Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I'm running Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 and I have had no problems whatsoever with any game that I have installed and played. However, mere observation around the forums tells me that people having versions of Vista other than Ultimate (Home and Business editions for example) have complained about far many problems that those with Ultimate. Recently, someone in the SA forums got his game to work after he switched from XP Home to XP Professional. I'm not sure how this affects performance or working of an application but I'm pretty sure that the Ultimate edition is the best edition of Vista out there. I say this from my own personal experience. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp2018 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 XP might run "faster" than vista on VERY LOW END SYSTEMS. For those who say vista is sh*t, well, let me tell you I NEVER had a SINGLE ERROR, or crash or anything on vista. NEVER. Vista is retards proof, smooth, and perfectly stable. I've tried to crash it, I just can't! If you manage to crash it, you are either a IT pro who knows where to hurt it to crash it, or a very unlucky moron. GTA4 never crashed or anything neither. NEVER. You know what's the problem with GTA4? It's the "console type gamers" community who can't use a comp that should go home to their consoles. "Do you want to allow moderators to moderate this post?" [ ] Yes [X] No Well not entirely true, Vista BSOD'ed me three times, but updating sound drivers fixed this issue, so im not a moron because it crashed. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 XP is old, get over it, it's from another century (almost). What most people seem to forget is that XP was as safe as swiss cheese before service pack 2 was released, the number of vulnerabilities that plagued XP makes XP the most unsafe version of Windows ever developed. The relatively minor problems that have bothered Vista in comparison seems tiny. Let's not forget that Microsoft took security in Vista to another level, something that will greatly benefit Windows 7, as it builds on the framework laid out by Vista. I have been using Vista from the beta phase onwards, and it's stable, safe, quick and it looks much better then XP. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I went from Vista32 to Vista64 and really had very little trouble with either, once that pesky UAC is off it is all good. My only grumble would have been that some of the modding apps I use wern't 64bit compatable, but there were similar programs that were so I soon got back on track. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Switching off UAC is not very clever. You not only get rid of the annoying UAC prompts, which of course are not really annoying if you have a properly configured system, if they bother you too much, you might want to check why this is happening, you also disable registry and file virtualisation among other things. And of course you break the foundation of the security offered in Vista. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NecroViolator Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Vista is great for newer hardware... Without Service Pack 1 Vista is laggy poo... But after SP1 Ive been running 100% pure speeds on my Xeons... Never had 1 crash or bug... I think Vista is 100% better than XP for newer hardware... Its called progress... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAMonkey2012 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) Vista is as good as the app written for it and loaded on it, all games have no issues but GTAIV plays better for me in XP than Vista (see my tweaks thread in my sig for a long list of details of both). In vista with GTAIV Ive had more crashes to desktop with video editor than I had hot dinners, forced to run with medium textures to stop stutters, had to run as DX9 mode to help it more ... etc etc. Not one crash in the editor in XP FAR less stutters, FPS was up and could have matching fps for 30 percent more slider values up in the settings. I agree to say vista is sh*t is pointless really, after SP1 it was much better with ARMA in all games & sims I have. Its certainly R* end that's for sure. Edited January 3, 2009 by GTAMonkey2012 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizen Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) XP might run "faster" than vista on VERY LOW END SYSTEMS. For those who say vista is sh*t, well, let me tell you I NEVER had a SINGLE ERROR, or crash or anything on vista. NEVER. Vista is retards proof, smooth, and perfectly stable. I've tried to crash it, I just can't! If you manage to crash it, you are either a IT pro who knows where to hurt it to crash it, or a very unlucky moron. GTA4 never crashed or anything neither. NEVER. You know what's the problem with GTA4? It's the "console type gamers" community who can't use a comp that should go home to their consoles. "Do you want to allow moderators to moderate this post?" [ ] Yes [X] No Hold down the Windows key and the letter "E" for a few seconds. The shortcut opens an explorer window. Press it briefly and one window opens. Press it for a hair more than 1 second and 30 windows open. Press it for 5 seconds and welcome to 300 windows and a crashed vista boom head-vista Edited January 3, 2009 by Kaizen Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eroneouse Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 I dont own vista nor have I ever had vista on a single machine I have ever had and I can tell you right now errr... XP works too Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 If you want to debate the merits of operating systems might I suggest you do it in the PC and Tech chat here :- http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showforum=73 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/389845-to-end-all-vista-mockery/#findComment-1058840918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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