#4 Worst Game of 08

[CharmingCharlie]

 

[Had no problems what so ever with Fallout3.GTAIV here,or there,in my eyes Fallout 3 is the game of the year.The ending is a bit dissapointing,there are a few bugs,but nothing that big.Trying to make other games look like crap won't make GTAIV better.Right now,i think Fallout 3 is miles ahead of GTAIV.But i hope GTAIV will catch up too and we'll have a good time with both.

I am not trying to make other games appear crap, despite it's problems I love Fallout 3. The point I was trying to make is that other big titles suffered just as many problems as GTA 4. The point some people on this forum are trying to make is that "GTA 4 is the only game in history to have these problems". I was also trying to show that Fallout 3 has NOT been patched properly after 2 months. The only patch was too fix a f*ck up when the game quit that is it.

[truehighroller]

 

[Had no problems what so ever with Fallout3.GTAIV here,or there,in my eyes Fallout 3 is the game of the year.The ending is a bit dissapointing,there are a few bugs,but nothing that big.Trying to make other games look like crap won't make GTAIV better.Right now,i think Fallout 3 is miles ahead of GTAIV.But i hope GTAIV will catch up too and we'll have a good time with both.

I am not trying to make other games appear crap, despite it's problems I love Fallout 3. The point I was trying to make is that other big titles suffered just as many problems as GTA 4. The point some people on this forum are trying to make is that "GTA 4 is the only game in history to have these problems". I was also trying to show that Fallout 3 has NOT been patched properly after 2 months. The only patch was too fix a f*ck up when the game quit that is it.

Far Cry 2 was bad "and yes I know we haven't even mentioned it, but I had issues with it more then Fallout 3" but, not nearly as bad as this thing has turrned out to be. Some people still can't even play it... I will also add that now Fa Cry2 has been patched and nicely IMO. I get 160 upwards 230 FPS on that game now "with my crossfire of course" now, that is a real patch.

[nicotin3]

I think GTA IV is a masterpiece.. but the PC version is kinda f*cked up so i cant criticise those who complain.

 

- Performance.

- Stability.

- No antialiasing and lack of options to adjust graphical settings.

- Unwanted Bloatware.

- Bugs...

- Bad interface (MP on a cellphone? RGSC, urgh).

 

No matter how much i love it this game deserved a better release, even more after such a long wait.

So yeah, its disapointing to wait so long for a f*cked up port but i'd still recomend it because i believe R* will patch it up and the game is definetly worth it.

 

Good times and good fun .

[FakeJ66]

Did you noticed this: number 4 is GTA IV and number 5 is spore...

and both use Suckurom 7!!!

 

IT'S DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE OF THIS MOTHERF***ING SUCKUROM!!!

[chngdman]

 

1 - Performance.

2- Stability.

3- No antialiasing and lack of options to adjust graphical settings.

4- Unwanted Bloatware.

5- Bugs...

6- Bad interface (MP on a cellphone? RGSC, urgh).

1: No problem on my bare minimum hardware, runs very smooth on 1.86ghz C2D

2: Quite stable, the only instability is with my own system and my own configuration, which I solved for myself.

3: Anti Aliasing is a smoke and mirrors trick to make up for low resolutions we were held back with before this game. I am glad AA is going to be gone completely in gaming soon.

4: Agreed.

5: I have not seen any, and I hope I don't

6: The cell phone gets on my nerves in the same way. It was not a good move IMO. It has me hoping the next game pre dates them

 

 

No matter how much i love it this game deserved a better release, even more after such a long wait.

 

True that.

Edited December 30, 2008 by chngdman

[Dumbas]

Charlie, I don't think anyone would disagree with you. But like HighRoller posted...this game is a fiasco!

 

I have a great rig, and it literally takes at least 5 minutes just to get the game rolling. Live, Social Club, unplug all devices, tsr programs shut down...replug all devices in, recon all devices....then it runs great for 5 minutes and starts to chug along...then down to a crawl. Sometimes it slows down to a slideshow.

 

I've been gaming on pc's for 15 years and have built my own machines, new one every other year. I've played lots of pc games going back to when you had dma/interupt issues and had to config hardware and software to run with every game.

 

But given the advancement in pc's...hardware, software and just the general better understanding on most pc gamers' part to config their own machines, there's no reason why this game should be so bad.

 

Rockstar had enough time to work "most" of the bugs out before releasing it. They KNEW expectations would be high.

 

 

 

This game should be able to run at min specs...it does not. This game hardly runs well enough on a respectable rig.

 

 

Yes, imho, this is the worst game I've ever installed on my machines. I'm not talking about game play...when I get it to run for a decent amount of time...it's a hoot...but it's short lived.

 

 

btw...Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3 run great on my rig.

 

 

 

And I get totally pissed by having to jump through hoops to get it to run...that in itself is totally unacceptable.

 

Live is a joke, as well as social club. Steam it ain't and never will be...

 

I understand it works well on your machine....but don't belittle the people who are having issues...you sound like a shill for the company.

 

We need support...not being talked down to.

[chngdman]

Dude, it's not this game that is a fiasco.

 

For one, you can't even tell who is telling the truth (about specs and issues and all of that).

 

Plus, the average gamer knows jack-sh*t about wtf-is-BIOS? and this game prompted MANY to upgrade their systems. Many problems with this game are from people thinking plug-and-play negates any need for low level configuration...

 

 

This game should be able to run at min specs...it does not. This game hardly runs well enough on a respectable rig.

 

Oh? No, you're wrong. Let me fix it:

 

 

This game should be able to run at min specs...it does not. This game hardly runs well enough on a respectable rig that a 12 year old owns.

 

There. That's better. You see, I am running this game on a 1.86ghz core 2 duo, an AGP graphics card (for those who still to this day think PCIe has ANY advantage at all over AGP before the next two gens of cards comes out ), and 2 gigs of ram, in XP SP3, and it always plays as smooth as a movie.

 

I highly suggest you all start using P Blur too... Because then you will start to realize why it's there... do you know how much work it is for your machine to apply transformations to This Many objects at once, at ALL times? Everything moves and scales and all of this at ALL times in this game, even when you stand still because the camera moves, and so the objects are moved...

 

I'm just saying, I'm on bare minimum and the only problems I have had at all with this game were on my own end, not R*'s

 

That is not to say the game is perfect - but patching it to fix the problems MOST of you are having would only equate to dumbing down the game for all of us who are not having problems... I would prefer you all have to buy a new PC before R* dumbs down the game for your rig...

 

My cousin is six days younger than me and a computer-idiot. I KNOW there are a million Brucie's on here crying about something they did before they even installed GTA IV

Edited December 30, 2008 by chngdman

[FX2K]

Ive briefly read this thread and have to say that personally even though Ive had issues and still having some

GTA IV PC version is no way the worst game of 2008

 

That title goes to one of EA's releases such as NFS Undercover or rather...

Red Alert 3 'zoom of doom' which has had a few patches already yet still loses sound after 3 mins of gaming and crashes after 5

 

Edit... Just spotted the post above.. Too right... forget dumbing down.. give us advanced options in the game to tweak the hell out of it

that for one would have saved a hell of a lot of people having issues

Edited December 30, 2008 by swsuk

[Kurgen]

 

Anti Aliasing is a smoke and mirrors trick to make up for low resolutions we were held back with before this game. I am glad AA is going to be gone completely in gaming soon.

 

I'm sorry, but... what?!? "held back with before this game"? WTF are you on about? Do you think GTAIV invented hi-res graphics? Also, if you honestly think that high resolutions negate the need for anti-aliasing, you need glasses.

 

...and where do you get the idea that it's "going to be gone completely in gaming soon"?

[Pixelated]

 

ROFL I would say that "review" says more about bit-tech than it does GTA 4.  Firstly they claim that the social club is a system hog. Hm lets see I have steam running continuously and that uses 52mbs of ram compared to the social club using 28mbs of ram, christ run for the hills ma  a whole 28mbs of ram being used by the social club.  The 28mbs of ram probably wouldn't even hold the texture for Niko's left testicle.

 

They then have a bit of a rant at GFWL, bitch and moan you have to create an account and sign in you know like you would have to do with ANY online service.  The mini review just comes across as more "toys out of the pram" syndrome.  If you don't like games for windows live then I might suggest too you that you sell your PC right now because we are going to see more and more games using GFWL.

 

All in all I think GTA 4 is a flawed masterpiece there are clearly some areas that need changing and reworking.  I can't see them being patched and I just have to hope they change them for the next GTA, all assuming we even get another GTA after the whingers have finished their belly aching.  It is certainly one of the better games on the PC this year especially after the crap that was Mercenaries 2, the atrocious Bully and the bug ridden and crash laden Fallout 3.

I think they nailed it when they said you need so many programs that do so little. Steam is a useful program. RGSC, InSecuROM and GFWL are not. I haven't used RGSC at all and don't think I ever will. I really have no interest in uploading video's of GTA. The sign up for RGSC was easy but the GFWL wasn't. I had to try it several times before I was successful. Steam does what all of these programs do and it does it a lot better. I don't play GTA IV online and it's absurd to have to sign up for 2 services just to play offline.

[FX2K]

Anti Aliasing is a smoke and mirrors trick to make up for low resolutions we were held back with before this game. I am glad AA is going to be gone completely in gaming soon.

 

I'm sorry, but... what?!? "held back with before this game"? WTF are you on about? Do you think GTAIV invented hi-res graphics? Also, if you honestly think that high resolutions negate the need for anti-aliasing, you need glasses.

 

...and where do you get the idea that it's "going to be gone completely in gaming soon"?

+1

 

Since im on high res and still need AA I dont see where you get this from 'chngdman'... and yeah it will only be gone in gaming if its left to the consoles to dictate the future, but then we will see a complete load of crap for games with no depth whatsoever.

 

[Vasil]

 

Dude, it's not this game that is a fiasco.

 

For one, you can't even tell who is telling the truth (about specs and issues and all of that).

 

Plus, the average gamer knows jack-sh*t about wtf-is-BIOS? and this game prompted MANY to upgrade their systems. Many problems with this game are from people thinking plug-and-play negates any need for low level configuration...

 

 

This game should be able to run at min specs...it does not. This game hardly runs well enough on a respectable rig.

 

Oh? No, you're wrong. Let me fix it:

 

 

This game should be able to run at min specs...it does not. This game hardly runs well enough on a respectable rig that a 12 year old owns.

 

There. That's better. You see, I am running this game on a 1.86ghz core 2 duo, an AGP graphics card (for those who still to this day think PCIe has ANY advantage at all over AGP before the next two gens of cards comes out ), and 2 gigs of ram, in XP SP3, and it always plays as smooth as a movie.

 

I highly suggest you all start using P Blur too... Because then you will start to realize why it's there... do you know how much work it is for your machine to apply transformations to This Many objects at once, at ALL times? Everything moves and scales and all of this at ALL times in this game, even when you stand still because the camera moves, and so the objects are moved...

 

I'm just saying, I'm on bare minimum and the only problems I have had at all with this game were on my own end, not R*'s

 

That is not to say the game is perfect - but patching it to fix the problems MOST of you are having would only equate to dumbing down the game for all of us who are not having problems... I would prefer you all have to buy a new PC before R* dumbs down the game for your rig...

 

My cousin is six days younger than me and a computer-idiot. I KNOW there are a million Brucie's on here crying about something they did before they even installed GTA IV

You made my day, thx .

 

And welcome to the 21st century, where computer games move many objects at once.

[How-To-Improve-GTA-IV]

 

I highly suggest you all start using P Blur too... Because then you will start to realize why it's there... do you know how much work it is for your machine to apply transformations to This Many objects at once, at ALL times? Everything moves and scales and all of this at ALL times in this game, even when you stand still because the camera moves, and so the objects are moved...

Using "p" for "blur" doesn't change anything on performance/fps.

[LSD T]

 

Dude, it's not this game that is a fiasco.

 

For one, you can't even tell who is telling the truth (about specs and issues and all of that).

 

Plus, the average gamer knows jack-sh*t about wtf-is-BIOS? and this game prompted MANY to upgrade their systems. Many problems with this game are from people thinking plug-and-play negates any need for low level configuration...

 

 

This game should be able to run at min specs...it does not. This game hardly runs well enough on a respectable rig.

 

Oh? No, you're wrong. Let me fix it:

 

 

This game should be able to run at min specs...it does not. This game hardly runs well enough on a respectable rig that a 12 year old owns.

 

There. That's better. You see, I am running this game on a 1.86ghz core 2 duo, an AGP graphics card (for those who still to this day think PCIe has ANY advantage at all over AGP before the next two gens of cards comes out ), and 2 gigs of ram, in XP SP3, and it always plays as smooth as a movie.

 

I highly suggest you all start using P Blur too... Because then you will start to realize why it's there... do you know how much work it is for your machine to apply transformations to This Many objects at once, at ALL times? Everything moves and scales and all of this at ALL times in this game, even when you stand still because the camera moves, and so the objects are moved...

 

I'm just saying, I'm on bare minimum and the only problems I have had at all with this game were on my own end, not R*'s

 

That is not to say the game is perfect - but patching it to fix the problems MOST of you are having would only equate to dumbing down the game for all of us who are not having problems... I would prefer you all have to buy a new PC before R* dumbs down the game for your rig...

 

My cousin is six days younger than me and a computer-idiot. I KNOW there are a million Brucie's on here crying about something they did before they even installed GTA IV

I do wonder what framerates you get in benchmarks because I cannot see, nay, not even Mr Myopia Charlie accepting, you get anything even remotely approaching a decent performance on your rig.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I declare CHARADE!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Charade you are Sir!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tis a lie... is the gist of what I'm saying.

 

PS- Please note I haven't commented on your AA theory of insanity, that's just too funny.

[truehighroller]

 

Dude, it's not this game that is a fiasco.

 

For one, you can't even tell who is telling the truth (about specs and issues and all of that).

 

Plus, the average gamer knows jack-sh*t about wtf-is-BIOS? and this game prompted MANY to upgrade their systems. Many problems with this game are from people thinking plug-and-play negates any need for low level configuration...

 

 

This game should be able to run at min specs...it does not. This game hardly runs well enough on a respectable rig.

 

Oh? No, you're wrong. Let me fix it:

 

 

This game should be able to run at min specs...it does not. This game hardly runs well enough on a respectable rig that a 12 year old owns.

 

There. That's better. You see, I am running this game on a 1.86ghz core 2 duo, an AGP graphics card (for those who still to this day think PCIe has ANY advantage at all over AGP before the next two gens of cards comes out ), and 2 gigs of ram, in XP SP3, and it always plays as smooth as a movie.

 

I highly suggest you all start using P Blur too... Because then you will start to realize why it's there... do you know how much work it is for your machine to apply transformations to This Many objects at once, at ALL times? Everything moves and scales and all of this at ALL times in this game, even when you stand still because the camera moves, and so the objects are moved...

 

I'm just saying, I'm on bare minimum and the only problems I have had at all with this game were on my own end, not R*'s

 

That is not to say the game is perfect - but patching it to fix the problems MOST of you are having would only equate to dumbing down the game for all of us who are not having problems... I would prefer you all have to buy a new PC before R* dumbs down the game for your rig...

 

My cousin is six days younger than me and a computer-idiot. I KNOW there are a million Brucie's on here crying about something they did before they even installed GTA IV

My Setup,

 

 

P5Q Deluxe

[email protected] 3.85GHZ

3X WD 160GB 16MB Cache Dives in Raid0

2 X 2GB G-Skill DDR2 1066 @ 1156MHZ~

2 4870 1GB cards in crossfire @ 820/925

750W Silverstone Decathalon Modular

Vist 64 Bit Ultimate SP1 all updates, DirectX Updates, .net 1 and service pack and .net 3.5 and service pack, Flashplayer exc exc exc exc exc exc ATI CCC 8.12 and driver is 8.12 as well.

 

 

Here is my DXDIAG info as well,

 

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System Information

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Time of this report: 12/30/2008, 18:39:21

Machine name:

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer: System manufacturer

System Model: System Product Name

BIOS: BIOS Date: 12/11/08 11:52:03 Ver: 08.00.14

Processor: Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.8GHz

Memory: 4094MB RAM

Page File: 1551MB used, 2487MB available

Windows Dir: C:\Windows

DirectX Version: DirectX 10

DX Setup Parameters: Not found

DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 64bit Unicode

 

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DxDiag Notes

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Display Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 2: No problems found.

Sound Tab 3: No problems found.

Sound Tab 4: No problems found.

Sound Tab 5: No problems found.

Input Tab: No problems found.

 

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DirectX Debug Levels

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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)

DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)

DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)

DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)

DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)

DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)

DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

 

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Display Devices

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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series

Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.

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DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)

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Display Memory: 2809 MB

Dedicated Memory: 1017 MB

Shared Memory: 1791 MB

Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Monitor: SyncMaster 245B/245BW/245BPlus(Digital)

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Driver Version: 7.15.0010.0163 (English)

DDI Version: 10.1

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Driver Date/Size: 12/1/2008 15:35:27, 2340352 bytes

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

WHQL Date Stamp:

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DDraw Status: Enabled

D3D Status: Enabled

AGP Status: Enabled

 

 

 

 

 

Here is a CPU-Z verify and GPU-Z verify and a screen shot for you, with your twelve year old....... @@@@..

 

 

GPU-Z verification link "This one I put a message in there for you chngdman ",

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/wmvrn/

 

CPU-Z verification link,

 

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=473712

 

 

Screen shot,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There you are, proof of what I have and that can't be denied either...

Edited December 31, 2008 by truehighroller

[TruXter]

ROFL I would say that "review" says more about bit-tech than it does GTA 4. Firstly they claim that the social club is a system hog. Hm lets see I have steam running continuously and that uses 52mbs of ram compared to the social club using 28mbs of ram, christ run for the hills ma a whole 28mbs of ram being used by the social club. The 28mbs of ram probably wouldn't even hold the texture for Niko's left testicle.

 

They then have a bit of a rant at GFWL, bitch and moan you have to create an account and sign in you know like you would have to do with ANY online service. The mini review just comes across as more "toys out of the pram" syndrome. If you don't like games for windows live then I might suggest too you that you sell your PC right now because we are going to see more and more games using GFWL.

 

All in all I think GTA 4 is a flawed masterpiece there are clearly some areas that need changing and reworking. I can't see them being patched and I just have to hope they change them for the next GTA, all assuming we even get another GTA after the whingers have finished their belly aching. It is certainly one of the better games on the PC this year especially after the crap that was Mercenaries 2, the atrocious Bully and the bug ridden and crash laden Fallout 3.

Sorry Charlie, I stole some of what you said, and wrote my own review.

Don't worry I credit you.

TruXterTech.com/News

 

So yeah, that writer is an idiot.

[The Stoneman]

GTA IV will be the last GTA for the PC.

 

I definitely don't want to see the next GTA a watered down version just so it can go with the PC.

[truehighroller]

ROFL I would say that "review" says more about bit-tech than it does GTA 4.  Firstly they claim that the social club is a system hog. Hm lets see I have steam running continuously and that uses 52mbs of ram compared to the social club using 28mbs of ram, christ run for the hills ma  a whole 28mbs of ram being used by the social club.  The 28mbs of ram probably wouldn't even hold the texture for Niko's left testicle.

 

They then have a bit of a rant at GFWL, bitch and moan you have to create an account and sign in you know like you would have to do with ANY online service.  The mini review just comes across as more "toys out of the pram" syndrome.  If you don't like games for windows live then I might suggest too you that you sell your PC right now because we are going to see more and more games using GFWL.

 

All in all I think GTA 4 is a flawed masterpiece there are clearly some areas that need changing and reworking.  I can't see them being patched and I just have to hope they change them for the next GTA, all assuming we even get another GTA after the whingers have finished their belly aching.  It is certainly one of the better games on the PC this year especially after the crap that was Mercenaries 2, the atrocious Bully and the bug ridden and crash laden Fallout 3.

Sorry Charlie, I stole some of what you said, and wrote my own review.

Don't worry I credit you.

TruXterTech.com/News

 

So yeah, that writer is an idiot.

You need to go back in and edit this part,

 

The dude goes on to say that He will buy the xbox30 version instead, and rattles off something about pc gamers being pirates. Sorry clown, but people pirate games for XBOX360 at 10 times the rate PC does. Who are you fooling with this?

 

 

because what the editor said was that they shouldn't treat all PC gamers like pirates "hinting at their drm bullsh*t".

 

 

 

 

 

[LSD T]

 

Sorry Charlie, I stole some of what you said, and wrote my own review.

Don't worry I credit you.

TruXterTech.com/News

 

So yeah, that writer is an idiot.

Yes, yes he would be if he actually saids that...which he didn't.

 

Why write all that to merely show how little you understood.

Edited December 31, 2008 by LSD T

[TruXter]

ROFL I would say that "review" says more about bit-tech than it does GTA 4.  Firstly they claim that the social club is a system hog. Hm lets see I have steam running continuously and that uses 52mbs of ram compared to the social club using 28mbs of ram, christ run for the hills ma  a whole 28mbs of ram being used by the social club.  The 28mbs of ram probably wouldn't even hold the texture for Niko's left testicle.

 

They then have a bit of a rant at GFWL, bitch and moan you have to create an account and sign in you know like you would have to do with ANY online service.  The mini review just comes across as more "toys out of the pram" syndrome.  If you don't like games for windows live then I might suggest too you that you sell your PC right now because we are going to see more and more games using GFWL.

 

All in all I think GTA 4 is a flawed masterpiece there are clearly some areas that need changing and reworking.  I can't see them being patched and I just have to hope they change them for the next GTA, all assuming we even get another GTA after the whingers have finished their belly aching.  It is certainly one of the better games on the PC this year especially after the crap that was Mercenaries 2, the atrocious Bully and the bug ridden and crash laden Fallout 3.

Sorry Charlie, I stole some of what you said, and wrote my own review.

Don't worry I credit you.

TruXterTech.com/News

 

So yeah, that writer is an idiot.

You need to go back in and edit this part,

 

The dude goes on to say that He will buy the xbox30 version instead, and rattles off something about pc gamers being pirates. Sorry clown, but people pirate games for XBOX360 at 10 times the rate PC does. Who are you fooling with this?

 

 

because what the editor said was that they shouldn't treat all PC gamers like pirates "hinting at their drm bullsh*t".

Yeah I am editing right now, I slapped it together and linked faster than I edited.

usually takes a couple hours before my rss feed takes off .

Thanks for the heads up.

[DeeperRed]

3: Anti Aliasing is a smoke and mirrors trick to make up for low resolutions we were held back with before this game. I am glad AA is going to be gone completely in gaming soon.

 

Anything you now say about Computers or videogames is now Null and void ans always will be becuase you have no f*cking clue what ou are on about. Your speaking out your asshole.

Let me explain

 

A: Anti Alising does not just work on low resoutions its also intended for high resolutions becuase just beause there is less jaggies doesn't mean there are no jaggies. Even at 1920X1200 your going to get jaggies and AA sorts that out.

 

B: What the f*ck are you on about "make up for low resolutions we were held back with before this game". This game didn't invent high resoltuion thats been round for the past 5 years you complete idiot. No more then an Idiot.

 

C: AA won't go away till all monitors are running at a native of about 4000X3000

[truehighroller]

Sorry Charlie, I stole some of what you said, and wrote my own review.

Don't worry I credit you.

TruXterTech.com/News

 

So yeah, that writer is an idiot.

Yes, yes he is...

Ahh but, again I say so is this guy because he took the guys words out of context and twisted it into some thing else. You need to go back in and edit this part,

 

The dude goes on to say that He will buy the xbox30 version instead, and rattles off something about pc gamers being pirates. Sorry clown, but people pirate games for XBOX360 at 10 times the rate PC does. Who are you fooling with this?

 

 

because what the editor said was that they shouldn't treat all PC gamers like pirates "hinting at their drm bullsh*t".

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TruXter]

done.

[truehighroller]

done.

That guy isn't dumb he was just ranting about all the sh*t that we have to go through just to play the game. He didn't even delve into the bugs in it which I am sure they noticed but, what ever I agree with all the extra crap being crap, any way and the fact that they are treating all PC gamers like pirates.

[flyer2359]

I was looking around and stumbled across this on one of the sites that I love and respect and thought why not post it for R* and every one else to see. Chime in on what you think about their evaluation on the game.

 

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2008/12/30/...games-of-2008/2

I can see why it got one of the worst games of the year with horrible optimization graphics are basically the same as the consoles except for textures and draw distance which anyone can hardly set above the console versions. Also they didn't even fix the shadows which look like they came from a 2000 game, even gta sa had better shadows to be truthful. It will be another 2 or 3 years before anyone can run on max. settings

[deployroy]

an avg. priced E6550/ 680i setup I've had since late 2006 runs it decent (click for proof) all highest 35-40fps 1680x1050 (barely optimized, Vista gutted & <30 View setting) smooth enough to be a holy terror in Multiplayer (even when it lags)

 

 

Yeah R* did f*ck this up in many ways, but I'm not complaining man...

 

 

I feel more sorry for the suckers who initially purchased it on consoles (so handicapped all over)

 

 

Great f*cking game man- I don't care, thx R* !!! -

 

 

 

 

 

the Mta/ Sa-mp team will rip this thing a new one, just like before.

 

 

Way more fun than even old school WoW.

Edited December 31, 2008 by deployroy

[bp2018]

With the influx of user made unnofficial patches im wondering if developers have become lazy and think that users will turn around and create patches to fix the bugs.

 

Still Rockstar said they will stick with the pc version for some time (probably meaning about 3 months max ) so we should see anotherp atch possibly two, Can only hope most of the main bugs are fixed, having said this the game runs fine, merely needs some optimising for the low FPS issues, no reason it should dip from 45 down to 23 in star junction, regardless of whats there, if they could do some minor optimisations and stablilise the FPS then everything should be just about perfect then (other than the other bugs which will hopefully be fixed aswell.... obviously. )

 

People need to chill out and relax, yes it isn't anywhere near perfect right now, but you are condemning it based on past failures, just have a little patience and make your views based on the second patch, which technically is the first patch since all these bugs were discovered.

 

I can understand alot of your rants though, but no need to clog up the forums with the same thing over and over.

[truehighroller]

With the influx of user made unnofficial patches im wondering if developers have become lazy and think that users will turn around and create patches to fix the bugs.

 

Still Rockstar said they will stick with the pc version for some time (probably meaning about 3 months max ) so we should see anotherp atch possibly two, Can only hope most of the main bugs are fixed, having said this the game runs fine, merely needs some optimising for the low FPS issues, no reason it should dip from 45 down to 23 in star junction, regardless of whats there, if they could do some minor optimisations and stablilise the FPS then everything should be just about perfect then (other than the other bugs which will hopefully be fixed aswell.... obviously. )

 

People need to chill out and relax, yes it isn't anywhere near perfect right now, but you are condemning it based on past failures, just have a little patience and make your views based on the second patch, which technically is the first patch since all these bugs were discovered.

 

I can understand alot of your rants though, but no need to clog up the forums with the same thing over and over.

Lets hope it is longer then 3 months yes?

[TheHitm4N]

For me, future GTA's are to be played on console..

[sallet]

 

How To Fix It

The obvious solution is just to trim down some of these added-on apps, weeding things down or incorporating everything into one system. It’s not that we mind that there’s a separate program included with the game – it’s that there’s so many of them working for so little benefit.

 

Unfortunately though, even when these bloatwares are done away with the game still isn’t flawless. The games performance is frequently flaky and lacklustre, mainly because Rockstar has beefed up the graphics for the next-generation of PC hardware – something which jeopardises the experience of everyone who has it now.

 

Cut Rockstar Social Club out of the game, let us save our progress without logging in, build a game that’ll run well on PCs and don’t sabotage your most dedicated audience with the insinuation that they are all torrenting losers and Grand Theft Auto IV will improve dramatically. You hear us, Rockstar?

 

the last part is something i have been trying to beat into the thick developer heads, but none of them will listen anyway.

 

stalwart for pc, no more. great article. devoid of ass-kissing, just plain objective observation.