Godfat][er Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I can't get past the whole sh*tty black dos window disapearing and nothing ever happening issue. Does any one now how to by pass this? Same here. I am running Build 7000, and installed game under compatibility xp/SP2 I tried all different compatibility modes for launchgta4.exe, and keep having the same issue. Anyone else that has had this same issue have a fix for this. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anus Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I had the same issue with XP SP3 when I first got IV. To fix this install (in order): .NET 3.0 .NET 3.0 SP1 .NET 3.5 .NET 3.5 SP1 And there you have it, 100% working game . Even if you have these installed install them again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfat][er Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Well, here is what I did to fix the issue. Do not turn compatibility mode on for either the game or social club. Exit out of Social Club. Launch the game from the launchgta4.exe shortcut. Thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truehighroller Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) [er,Jan 10 2009, 19:21] Well, here is what I did to fix the issue.Do not turn compatibility mode on for either the game or social club. Exit out of Social Club. Launch the game from the launchgta4.exe shortcut. Thats all. Thanks I woll try it right now. UPDATE: That didn't work for me either. Am I missing something here, drivers, directx updates ?? What have I missed here? Bigger Update: Some how my instalation of Windows Games Live went sour. I figured it out by finally just clicking on the GTA.EXE Itself and it gave me the error message stating something Games for Windows was missing, I can't remember the error exactly but, it was along those lines. That means that the DOS window just wasn't echoing back me the message for some reason when it was being called by the launch exe. That is a simple coding issue there. Oh R* Edited January 10, 2009 by truehighroller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truehighroller Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Ok I as I said before, Update: Some how my instalation of Windows Games Live went sour. I figured it out by finally just clicking on the GTA.EXE Itself and it gave me the error message stating something Games for Windows was missing, I can't remember the error exactly but, it was along those lines. That means that the DOS window just wasn't echoing back me the message for some reason when it was being called by the launch exe. That is a simple coding issue there. Oh R* So now I have everything running but, the damn video memory leak seems alot worse now LMAO. I have had a video memory leak issue for ever now.. Oh well, that is my oppinion on how GTA IV works on Windows 7 everyone LMAO.. Edited January 10, 2009 by truehighroller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0EBUSHID0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I did a back-to-back benchmark comparison using XP 32 bit and a genuine Windows 7 x64 beta. My XP is on it's own SATA drive along with all kinds of art and music programs. Plus I've been using it for roughly 3 years, so it's good and cluttered..lol. Windows 7 is on a seperat, clean HD and I have my system set up to dual-boot. There's nothing on it besides Windows itself, all my drivers GTAIV and Mass Effect, though I did this benchmark before installing ME. I made sure to keep the settings and drivers identical on both versions. Here's my specs AMD Opteron 175 Dual core OC'd to 2.4 GHZ (I could go higher but not with stock cooling) XFX Nvidia G-force 8800 GT 2 gb DDR ram ASRock 939 Dual-VSTA Mobo On-board Audio here's my benchmarks ------------------------------------- Windows XP sp3 32bit Statistics Average FPS: 25.87 Duration: 37.31 sec CPU Usage: 85% System memory usage: 83% Video memory usage: 97% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High View Distance: 25 Detail Distance: 37 Hardware Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Video Driver version: 185.20 Audio Adapter: PnP Audio Device Dual Core AMD Opteron™ Processor 175 File ID: benchmark.cli ------------------------------------------------------ Genuine Windows 7 build 7000 x64 beta 1 Statistics Average FPS: 22.50 Duration: 37.37 sec CPU Usage: 96% System memory usage: 85% Video memory usage: 98% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High View Distance: 25 Detail Distance: 37 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Video Driver version: 185.20 Audio Adapter: Speakers (USB Audio Device) Dual Core AMD Opteron™ Processor 175 File ID: Benchmark.cli ----------------------------------------------- I should also mention that I only ran the benchmark once on XP, but had to run it 3 times on W7 to get those scores. The first two times, it kept pausing briefly at random moments which made the final FPS score drop to 15-17, which is unacceptable. Also, during gameplay, the game runs smooth (ish) on XP, while I got missing textures and random pauses on W7. Conclusion, W7 is a brand-new beta, so obviously it wouldn't be fair to judge harshly. It may be a great OS for gaming in the future (assuming M$ doesn't screw it up), just not right now. Though I should also mention that Mass Effect runs noticably smoother on W7 compared to XP, but that could be because of Direct X 10 and haveing a clean OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Well being a bit bored as I was since there is so much blatant cheating in GTA 4 MP at the moment, I decided to grab myself a beta of Windows 7 that MS is giving away at the moment. I had a spare OS partition since I no longer use win xp and thought win 7 would fit nicely on it (I won't tell you about what I think of win 7). Anyway after much tedium trying to get GTA 4 to work (I did) I did benchmarks :- Vista Ultimate Sp1 32bit Statistics Average FPS: 40.05 Duration: 37.18 sec CPU Usage: 73% System memory usage: 66% Video memory usage: 99% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: Medium View Distance: 21 Detail Distance: 20 Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS Video Driver version: 181.20 Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz Windows 7 64bit Build 7000 Statistics Average FPS: 42.61 Duration: 37.11 sec CPU Usage: 72% System memory usage: 78% Video memory usage: 99% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: Medium View Distance: 21 Detail Distance: 20 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS Video Driver version: 181.20 Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz File ID: Benchmark.cli So basically a 2fps gain for me (which is doubtful that could just be assorted variances). To be honest I am skeptical about any gains win7 will offer. It feels just as bloated as Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 ATI users who have a windows 7 beta install might want to try the new windows 7 beta drivers from amd http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default...uestionID=39069 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanmies Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I play it on W7. it runs horrible! thanks I still have the other disk with xp sp3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonFTL Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 OK, I need some help here. I installed the 2x on win7. Flawless installations no errors. Used the "setup" shortcut in XP SP2 mode. No matter what I do I get a RMN:20 Error. I tried running the Social club in XP SP2 mode and Tried running the LaunchGTAIV in XP SP2 mode. Nothing works. Same error every time. Am I doing something wrong? btw this is the public beta build 7000 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 The launcher should be set to win 2000 mode i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truehighroller Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) I did a back-to-back benchmark comparison using XP 32 bit and a genuine Windows 7 x64 beta. I have a gemnuine copy. I will try to run it in windows 2000 mode now I got it working after finding the coding flaw. Edit: Here is my benchmark results, Statistics Average FPS: 55.75 Duration: 37.62 sec CPU Usage: 62% System memory usage: 62% Video memory usage: 71% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1360 x 1024 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: High View Distance: 32 Detail Distance: 70 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (Engineering Sample – WDDM v1.1) Video Driver version: 8.14.10.630 Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz File ID: benchmark.cli Edited January 11, 2009 by truehighroller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonFTL Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 OK, I need some help here. I installed the 2x on win7. Flawless installations no errors. Used the "setup" shortcut in XP SP2 mode. No matter what I do I get a RMN:20 Error. I tried running the Social club in XP SP2 mode and Tried running the LaunchGTAIV in XP SP2 mode. Nothing works. Same error every time. Am I doing something wrong? btw this is the public beta build 7000 version. The launcher should be set to win 2000 mode i think. Just tried that too. Same error. RMN20. I googled it and the error supposedly means that it thinks its launching in XP. (not SP3) How would I get it to launch properly? Did you guys get through with no error's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truehighroller Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 OK, I need some help here. I installed the 2x on win7. Flawless installations no errors. Used the "setup" shortcut in XP SP2 mode. No matter what I do I get a RMN:20 Error. I tried running the Social club in XP SP2 mode and Tried running the LaunchGTAIV in XP SP2 mode. Nothing works. Same error every time. Am I doing something wrong? btw this is the public beta build 7000 version. The launcher should be set to win 2000 mode i think. Just tried that too. Same error. RMN20. I googled it and the error supposedly means that it thinks its launching in XP. (not SP3) How would I get it to launch properly? Did you guys get through with no error's? I think it depends on your setup because some people say it runs good however I think it runs like sh*t on my system and here is my higher settings benchie, Statistics Average FPS: 55.83 Duration: 37.69 sec CPU Usage: 63% System memory usage: 60% Video memory usage: 88% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (59 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: High View Distance: 30 Detail Distance: 70 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (Engineering Sample – WDDM v1.1) Video Driver version: 8.14.10.630 Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz File ID: benchmark.cli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 i'd probably say that on win 7 it does run a tad slower for me fps wise, but on my xp i get tiny stutters every few seconds so it spointless having a high fps if it stutters constantly so im running at 50-35 all the time but something is causing tiny tiny stutters at a regular interval. on win 7 my overal fps in game is lower but it doesn't have the regular stuttering so it appears smoother, and i'd rather have a slightly lower fps that doesn't have the little stutters than a higher fps that does stutter. gonna try the windows 7 ati beta drivers see what happens, just got my legit windows 7 64bit + key now so reinstall for me! especially seeing as my non legit version has for some reason detected a hardware change (i reinstalled my sound card) it wants me to reactivate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x8681150 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 what about vista???has any one compare windows 7 to vista???is it any gain in fps???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmingCharlie Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 yes on the previous page here :- http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1058867516 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnottis Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 OK, I need some help here. I installed the 2x on win7. Flawless installations no errors. Used the "setup" shortcut in XP SP2 mode. No matter what I do I get a RMN:20 Error. I tried running the Social club in XP SP2 mode and Tried running the LaunchGTAIV in XP SP2 mode. Nothing works. Same error every time. Am I doing something wrong? btw this is the public beta build 7000 version. The launcher should be set to win 2000 mode i think. Just tried that too. Same error. RMN20. I googled it and the error supposedly means that it thinks its launching in XP. (not SP3) How would I get it to launch properly? Did you guys get through with no error's? I think it depends on your setup because some people say it runs good however I think it runs like sh*t on my system and here is my higher settings benchie, Statistics Average FPS: 55.83 Duration: 37.69 sec CPU Usage: 63% System memory usage: 60% Video memory usage: 88% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (59 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: High View Distance: 30 Detail Distance: 70 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (Engineering Sample – WDDM v1.1) Video Driver version: 8.14.10.630 Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz File ID: benchmark.cli Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (Engineering Sample – WDDM v1.1) <------ install ATI drivers, those are WDM which are what Windows 7 installs as a default driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okei Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) nevermind Edited January 11, 2009 by okei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truehighroller Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) OK, I need some help here. I installed the 2x on win7. Flawless installations no errors. Used the "setup" shortcut in XP SP2 mode. No matter what I do I get a RMN:20 Error. I tried running the Social club in XP SP2 mode and Tried running the LaunchGTAIV in XP SP2 mode. Nothing works. Same error every time. Am I doing something wrong? btw this is the public beta build 7000 version. The launcher should be set to win 2000 mode i think. Just tried that too. Same error. RMN20. I googled it and the error supposedly means that it thinks its launching in XP. (not SP3) How would I get it to launch properly? Did you guys get through with no error's? I think it depends on your setup because some people say it runs good however I think it runs like sh*t on my system and here is my higher settings benchie, Statistics Average FPS: 55.83 Duration: 37.69 sec CPU Usage: 63% System memory usage: 60% Video memory usage: 88% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (59 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: High View Distance: 30 Detail Distance: 70 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (Engineering Sample – WDDM v1.1) Video Driver version: 8.14.10.630 Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Intel® Core2 Quad CPU Q9450 @ 2.66GHz File ID: benchmark.cli Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series (Engineering Sample – WDDM v1.1) <------ install ATI drivers, those are WDM which are what Windows 7 installs as a default driver. Nope that's what I thought to man but, when I went into the drivers information on device manager it was indeed the ATI drivers.. Got me man, I noticed it to though. I just said hell with it and tossed my fresh install after all updates image of Vista back on my raid0 and was done with it. I was having other issues with my games in general as well so, hell with it but, GTA IV will still have issues I bet. I was just wonderng if any one knows if one specific ATI driver is better then the others? I heard 8.9 was good but, hell I don't know. I should just be able to use the latest driver and not have issues I swear it is aggrevating. Edited January 12, 2009 by truehighroller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 WDM is ATI stream, I thought... anyhow, try it out, knock them out, driversweep, and go ahead and put the cat 8.12 in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splashngo Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 beta-tester like for example, i can google the download locations for the 7 beta and say im a beta tester. Who the hell cares? i second that. the point of the thread is sharing info about performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotSkydiver Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Here is a true comparison between a fresh XP install and a fresh Windows 7 install, both 32 bit, no hardware changed between the two. XP: Statistics Average FPS: 16.54 Duration: 37.37 sec CPU Usage: 35% System memory usage: 96% Video memory usage: 92% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1366 x 768 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High View Distance: 19 Detail Distance: 63 Hardware Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT Video Driver version: 6.14.10.6891 Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output Intel Pentium III Xeon processor Intel Pentium III Xeon processor File ID: Benchmark.cli Windows 7: Statistics Average FPS: 14.88 Duration: 37.98 sec CPU Usage: 17% System memory usage: 93% Video memory usage: 99% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1366 x 768 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High View Distance: 19 Detail Distance: 63 Hardware Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT (Microsoft Corporation WDDM 1.1) Video Driver version: 8.14.10.610 Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device) Intel® Xeon® CPU E5462 @ 2.80GHz Intel® Xeon® CPU E5462 @ 2.80GHz File ID: Benchmark.cli The reason the Video drivers are different is because for some reason the benchmark in XP wouldn't report them correctly. The drivers are at their latest on both OSes. Interestingly, the Windows 7 benchmark correctly reported the processor, while the XP thought it was a Pentium III. So, a 2 FPS drop in Windows 7. I'll try to use Fraps later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutrCZ Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 How can I run GTA IV on Windows Seven? I have instaled game in "XP SP2 compatibility mode" and i tried set compatibility for all gta exe´s to W2000 but I have still WS10 error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 How can I run GTA IV on Windows Seven? I have instaled game in "XP SP2 compatibility mode" and i tried set compatibility for all gta exe´s to W2000 but I have still WS10 error Are you suing any commandline switches? Have you installed all the drivers? Do you have any yellow question marks in device manager? Make sure the game installed the visual runtime libraries from the redistributable folder on the game disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutrCZ Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 How can I run GTA IV on Windows Seven? I have instaled game in "XP SP2 compatibility mode" and i tried set compatibility for all gta exe´s to W2000 but I have still WS10 error Are you suing any commandline switches? Have you installed all the drivers? Do you have any yellow question marks in device manager? Make sure the game installed the visual runtime libraries from the redistributable folder on the game disk. I have problem with instalation Net Framework 3 and 3.5 it stil crash, maybe is problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkey82 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 How can I run GTA IV on Windows Seven? I have instaled game in "XP SP2 compatibility mode" and i tried set compatibility for all gta exe´s to W2000 but I have still WS10 error Are you suing any commandline switches? Have you installed all the drivers? Do you have any yellow question marks in device manager? Make sure the game installed the visual runtime libraries from the redistributable folder on the game disk. I have problem with instalation Net Framework 3 and 3.5 it stil crash, maybe is problem here. &4 or 32 bit version of win7? I had trouble with that also, but... Use xliveless mod, it will remove the need for RGSC and xlive so you don't need the .net framework (some version of it should come with win7, preinstalled). I don't think the game itself uses .net framework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutrCZ Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 How can I run GTA IV on Windows Seven? I have instaled game in "XP SP2 compatibility mode" and i tried set compatibility for all gta exe´s to W2000 but I have still WS10 error Are you suing any commandline switches? Have you installed all the drivers? Do you have any yellow question marks in device manager? Make sure the game installed the visual runtime libraries from the redistributable folder on the game disk. I have problem with instalation Net Framework 3 and 3.5 it stil crash, maybe is problem here. &4 or 32 bit version of win7? I had trouble with that also, but... Use xliveless mod, it will remove the need for RGSC and xlive so you don't need the .net framework (some version of it should come with win7, preinstalled). I don't think the game itself uses .net framework. 32bit version, ok I gonna try it thanks for tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutrCZ Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Iv tried xliveless but game still not run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axeman420 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) I tried Win7, but it still sucks too much to even use... No audio drivers, fine, I can deal with that, its still beta... No ethernet drivers, well, thats a pain, but bearable... So I trudge past the above issues, only to hit another snag, it doesn't see my secondary partition, so I have to set it up in disk management, ok, so I fix that, then I try setting up system to try a game out, after minutes of clicking around blindly till I found the new homes of old stuff, I finally get it all setup,.. (Installed directx 9 too, why isn't this already installed???) So anyways, I start the game up, menu loads, try to load up a save game, and nothing, just sits there loading forever, waited like 5 minutes, its not working, so I alt-tab out, close the .exe, Win7 instantly loses every setting change I had made, my resolution changed, my dual monitor settings, everything.. Not only that, but my mouse starts acting up, it works, then stops, works then stops, etc, etc,.. I reboot the computer, fire up XP, boom BSOD, what?? My XP has been stable for 3 years now, I installed on a separate partition, thats not right, not right at all... I reboot again, it works this time, I get to the password screen of XP, enter my password, boom BSOD, FUUUCCKKK!!!! I try one last time, finally it works, I format the Win7 partition, and decide to stick with XP until they make an operating system that doesn't suck ass.. I'm sorry, it seems faster, and it doesn't quite suck as bad as Vista, and its even faster than XP, but, as you can see, speed isn't everything, hopefully they get the above issues sorted, I might give it another chance.. It is a beta after all.. This was with the latest official beta 7000 off the Microsoft site... Win7 64bit... -------------- Edit: Oh, my GTAIV comparision.. Win7 Ultimate 64bit= Nothing... Vista Ultimate 64bit= Plays, but slowly.. WinXP 64bit Pro= Plays Slow, but not as slow as Vista... So its XP for the win.. (WinXP 64bit SP2) Edited January 20, 2009 by Axeman420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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