MrJones Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) Install latest Windows 7 Beta 1 Build 7000 More stable and smoother running than vista actually. Got 1920x1080, High, Very High, 60, 60, 60, 0 and run with only nomemrestrict in commandline. Vista Sp1 with 15fps. Windows 7 with 35 fps. And im guessing alot of people will come here and say that windows 7 is bull and not stable. But i just did an upgrade of system from vista, and everysingle program, and startup programs worked after upgrade. And i will be posting some screenshots very shortly to prove my game performance in W7 Edited December 30, 2008 by MrJones Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremist5150 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 You LIE. You lie SOOOO bad. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJones Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 You LIE. You lie SOOOO bad. This is just my point. Why do you think im lying? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXGraemeXx Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 post screenshots then. it doesnt take long to post screenshots... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremist5150 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 post screenshots then. it doesnt take long to post screenshots... You tell him! If this isn't a lie, let's see the proof! We'll flush him out just yet! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJones Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Ill be posting shortly, was tired of using DVD to run game so i tried downloading no-cd. Then the game crashed, so im installing it again Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorkenlol Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 You think 35 FPS is smooth? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkapeGote Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I could not get GTA 4 to work on Windows 7, it kept crashing, but that isn't saying much. Nor does it mean he is lying. Skape Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremist5150 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I could not get GTA 4 to work on Windows 7, it kept crashing, but that isn't saying much. Nor does it mean he is lying. Skape Conspirator! Sniper on the grassy knoll! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xennah Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 You think 35 FPS is smooth? What is smooth according to you then? 60+ FPS? That's silly, when i play i get around 10-20, good enough for me. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJones Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 You think 35 FPS is smooth? What is smooth according to you then? 60+ FPS? That's silly, when i play i get around 10-20, good enough for me. Agree with you, on GTA iv i feel 35 fps in avrage is pretty smooth. And for those other sceptics, im installing now in compabilitymode for XP sp2, very easy thing to do if someone here has Windows 7 and cant install the game. As i said before, will post screenshot as soon as possible. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorkenlol Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 What is smooth according to you then? 60+ FPS? That's silly, when i play i get around 10-20, good enough for me. 45-50 atleast. 10-20 is not good enough, atleast not if you want to enjoy it to max. 30-40 is good enough for me, but it is not smooth. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rallzor Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 could you post screenshots on BOTH your windows 7 and GTA IV on it?. thanks.. Thinking of upgrading to windows 7.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJones Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 What is smooth according to you then? 60+ FPS? That's silly, when i play i get around 10-20, good enough for me. 45-50 atleast. 10-20 is not good enough, atleast not if you want to enjoy it to max. 30-40 is good enough for me, but it is not smooth. But we are talking about a game whom only people with a 10000$ computer can run the game as "smooth" as you want it. Im betting most of forum users here think around 35 fps is more than good enough. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJones Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 could you post screenshots on BOTH your windows 7 and GTA IV on it?. thanks.. Thinking of upgrading to windows 7.. Yes i can do that, no problem! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 i just want the stuttering to go i get 40+ majority of the time but slight stutters, tbh i think its my hdd getting hammers hmm,, 10,000rpm raptor will be on my wish list then! and naughty you having the windows 7 beta! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorkenlol Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 But we are talking about a game whom only people with a 10000$ computer can run the game as "smooth" as you want it. Im betting most of forum users here think around 35 fps is more than good enough. I'm not just talking about fps in GTA, but FPS in general, in any games. I could not ever enjoy playing a game with 10-20 fps, not GTA. I don't have some kind of monster computer, I just don't get the games my computer can't stand. I think it's a waste of money to get a new game that requires some sort of supercomputer to be able to play it and enjoy it. Now GTA was an exception, of course. As I've played every other GTA game in the series. 35 FPS is good enough, and fits perfect for an RTS, or something of that sort, but for a game like GTA, or a fast-paced FPS, 35 fps just don't do it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJones Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 But we are talking about a game whom only people with a 10000$ computer can run the game as "smooth" as you want it. Im betting most of forum users here think around 35 fps is more than good enough. I'm not just talking about fps in GTA, but FPS in general, in any games. I could not ever enjoy playing a game with 10-20 fps, not GTA. I don't have some kind of monster computer, I just don't get the games my computer can't stand. I think it's a waste of money to get a new game that requires some sort of supercomputer to be able to play it and enjoy it. Now GTA was an exception, of course. As I've played every other GTA game in the series. 35 FPS is good enough, and fits perfect for an RTS, or something of that sort, but for a game like GTA, or a fast-paced FPS, 35 fps just don't do it. This i can agree on. If you say it like that ofcource 35fps aint nearly good enough for a game like this. But, like you said, this is an exception becouse of the high requirements for the game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremist5150 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Still waiting on those 'screenshots'. wink wink. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Lunk Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 (edited) i never understood this urge for realy hight FPS. Film is usualy 24-30 fps, and we've never complained about that not being smooth. and im pretty sure the human brain has trouble telling the difference in frame rates over 30-40. Tried to find confirmation on that, failed, but DID find this: For example, in the Grand Theft Auto series, Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City have a standard 30 fps (Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas runs at 25 fps) and this limit can only be removed at the cost of graphical and gameplay stability edit: oh, and anything higher than your refresh rate is pointless. So if your running a 60mhz monitor, or set to 60mhz in your graphics settings in GTA4, 80fps arent going to be displayed as 80fps Edited December 29, 2008 by Big Lunk Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJones Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Screenshot 1. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elysian Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 i never understood this urge for realy hight FPS.Film is usualy 24-30 fps, and we've never complained about that not being smooth. and im pretty sure the human brain has trouble telling the difference in frame rates over 30-40. Tried to find confirmation on that, failed, but DID find this: For example, in the Grand Theft Auto series, Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City have a standard 30 fps (Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas runs at 25 fps) and this limit can only be removed at the cost of graphical and gameplay stability edit: oh, and anything higher than your refresh rate is pointless. So if your running a 60mhz monitor, or set to 60mhz in your graphics settings in GTA4, 80fps arent going to be displayed as 80fps i complain about film not being smooth all the time i HATE going to the theater and being able to see every single frame. the saddest part is, the old reel to reel's run 48fps, doubling up every frame to make 24fps, why on earth are movies not filmed in 48fps then? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 i never understood this urge for realy hight FPS.Film is usualy 24-30 fps, and we've never complained about that not being smooth. and im pretty sure the human brain has trouble telling the difference in frame rates over 30-40. Tried to find confirmation on that, failed, but DID find this: For example, in the Grand Theft Auto series, Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City have a standard 30 fps (Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas runs at 25 fps) and this limit can only be removed at the cost of graphical and gameplay stability edit: oh, and anything higher than your refresh rate is pointless. So if your running a 60mhz monitor, or set to 60mhz in your graphics settings in GTA4, 80fps arent going to be displayed as 80fps i complain about film not being smooth all the time i HATE going to the theater and being able to see every single frame. the saddest part is, the old reel to reel's run 48fps, doubling up every frame to make 24fps, why on earth are movies not filmed in 48fps then? do you know how much film costs? lol Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
okei Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 If you had Windows 7, wouldn't that make you a pirate? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremist5150 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Screenshot 1. Vista with Windows 7 UI courtesy of Stardock. Thanks for playing! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058822999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noVa Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Screenshot 1. Vista with Windows 7 UI courtesy of Stardock. Thanks for playing! the beta version has been leaked though. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058823005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishman82 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Screenshot 1. Vista with Windows 7 UI courtesy of Stardock. Thanks for playing! No, that's windows 7. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058823008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJones Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Wouldnt make me a pirate when its beta testing. And it is windows 7 If you say i run stardock, wheres my stardock icon in the "taskbar" ? But i got a problem, cant seem to run benchmark. Just start loading then crash, anybody knows this problem?. I have pics taken with print screen and fraps. As you can see here the grapichs are as discribed, and if you come and say that this is the fps when im in "menu" then you havent tried fraps, becouse it displays same fps in menu as ingame. If anyone wants some pictures taken other places? or have any idea of fixing benchmark i will be happy to post more screens of Gta IV on Windows 7. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058823083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourgrandma Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 i never understood this urge for realy hight FPS.Film is usualy 24-30 fps, and we've never complained about that not being smooth. and im pretty sure the human brain has trouble telling the difference in frame rates over 30-40. Movies have motion blur to take account for lower fps. Thats why 20-15 can seem like they are running much higher fps in gta, crysis with motion blur. Also studies have show that the eye can even detect up to 200 fps in certain situations the magic 30 number is bull. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058823140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasil Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 i never understood this urge for realy hight FPS.Film is usualy 24-30 fps, and we've never complained about that not being smooth. and im pretty sure the human brain has trouble telling the difference in frame rates over 30-40. Movies have motion blur to take account for lower fps. Thats why 20-15 can seem like they are running much higher fps in gta, crysis with motion blur. Also studies have show that the eye can even detect up to 200 fps in certain situations the magic 30 number is bull. Of course it´s bs. And the film comparison stuff is pointless. Those are constant 25 fps, the problem with the game is the horrible slowdowns. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/388555-how-to-get-increase-in-performance-gta-iv/#findComment-1058823188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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