General OpenIV Discussion and Announcements

[GooD-NTS]

Basically, just stop with the the videos, do you know how annoying they are WOAH LOOK AT ME I CAN EXPLORE GTAV CONSOLES FILES, but you can't, this is my tool, my tool only, you can't have it.

Look, you got it in a wrong way. This is not "Look at me" video, this is a trailer for future OpenIV. R* release a first trailer for GTA V a years ago, so I also make trailer before release. But, I can't show PC version in this trailer, R* will not love it

 

 

Some people don't like reinventing the wheel too. Writing tools from scratch when there is pretty much perfect software done already sounds a bit pointless. Rewriting makes sense only when all current software sucks IMO.

It this case the software are "sucks" because it is not public. So now, we have other tools to work with RDR and GTAV and this is great.

 

 

Well guess what guys, people DID go and make their own tools instead of sitting around and being told what to do from you two, enjoy having OpenIV fall into obscurity, you had a chance here to change your ways but GTAV is just too big to simply wait for you.

Good luck. I will sit here in obscurity and wait for global modifications for GTA V not just cheats which now we all will have in GTA Online (and thanks god this is not my fault).

[Ash_735]

See, there you go again with the ego, You never released any tools for the console versions of GTA IV and RDR yet people still cheated on those anyway! You're not god of RPF you know! All we wanted was a limited version to view models/textures and listen to the audio, but noooo, you wouldn't let us have that, and now people have made their own stuff that just shows how restricted you were being, we used to support your project man before you became an egotistical ass.

[GooD-NTS]

Ash_735, Yes, you got me. I selfish egotistical ass which spend last five year to consolidate work of many people around the work to make the most powerful modding tool for GTA ever created yet.

 

 

 

You never released any tools for the console versions of GTA IV and RDR yet people still cheated on those anyway!

Public OpenIV and SparkIV work fine with console version of GTA IV and you know it. As for RDR, as I say earlier here is a tool for RDR in the Internet.

 

 

All we wanted was a limited version to view models/textures and listen to the audio, but noooo, you wouldn't let us have that,

You know I have principles and reasons why I can't release even limited version of .black

 

 

...we used to support your project man before you became an egotistical ass.

What are you talking about? You can read original OpenIV topic, http://gtaforums.com/topic/341654-ivwip-openiv-project/ I'm always was like this.

[Ash_735]

Face it dude, you dropped the ball, OpenIV isn't important anymore, we wanted you to step up with GTAV, we asked you, and you flat out refused, sitting on your perch claiming that you'll never do it and even got someone to challenge us to make our own tools. Well, PEOPLE DID! You just like being in control of things, don't think I don't know about your special builds, you can manipulate this program exactly how you like, you just won't because then you'll lose control over it, god forbid people have access to files right?

 

It's just a shame, you could have done something really nice with this, but to see you act like a kid and throw it back in peoples faces, people who supported you and donated to you, etc, I'll make it known in future next time you do one of your begging PAY ME OR I'LL QUIT rants.

[xroc88]

@Good-NTS

 

Hello i am interested in the dynamic audio an radio stations of GTA V. Can you tell me info on how to parse these AWC files?

[quechus13]

Face it dude, you dropped the ball, OpenIV isn't important anymore, we wanted you to step up with GTAV, we asked you, and you flat out refused, sitting on your perch claiming that you'll never do it and even got someone to challenge us to make our own tools. Well, PEOPLE DID! You just like being in control of things, don't think I don't know about your special builds, you can manipulate this program exactly how you like, you just won't because then you'll lose control over it, god forbid people have access to files right?

 

It's just a shame, you could have done something really nice with this, but to see you act like a kid and throw it back in peoples faces, people who supported you and donated to you, etc, I'll make it known in future next time you do one of your begging PAY ME OR I'LL QUIT rants.

 

It is his tool not yours.

Let him be and do whatever he wants with it.

 

I love OpenIV and will support it as it has helped me a lot.

 

Please leave this topic because you are just commenting something that is none of your business.

 

Go to that forum and use that tool instead! Doesn't matter if he shares it or not! He was helped the modding community a lot and you should be grateful for that!

[Ash_735]

 

Face it dude, you dropped the ball, OpenIV isn't important anymore, we wanted you to step up with GTAV, we asked you, and you flat out refused, sitting on your perch claiming that you'll never do it and even got someone to challenge us to make our own tools. Well, PEOPLE DID! You just like being in control of things, don't think I don't know about your special builds, you can manipulate this program exactly how you like, you just won't because then you'll lose control over it, god forbid people have access to files right?

 

It's just a shame, you could have done something really nice with this, but to see you act like a kid and throw it back in peoples faces, people who supported you and donated to you, etc, I'll make it known in future next time you do one of your begging PAY ME OR I'LL QUIT rants.

 

It is his tool not yours.

Let him be and do whatever he wants with it.

 

I love OpenIV and will support it as it has helped me a lot.

 

Please leave this topic because you are just commenting something that is none of your business.

 

Go to that forum and use that tool instead! Doesn't matter if he shares it or not! He was helped the modding community a lot and you should be grateful for that!

 

 

How much money did you give to GooD-NTS then on a false promise?

[T-ru]

@Ash_735 Why don't you make better tool? So me or all of us will give money to you!!!

[GooD-NTS]

Face it dude, you dropped the ball, OpenIV isn't important anymore, we wanted you to step up with GTAV, we asked you, and you flat out refused, sitting on your perch claiming that you'll never do it and even got someone to challenge us to make our own tools. Well, PEOPLE DID! You just like being in control of things, don't think I don't know about your special builds, you can manipulate this program exactly how you like, you just won't because then you'll lose control over it, god forbid people have access to files right?

I'm never was in charge, OpenIV is never was the only one program.

 

 

It's just a shame, you could have done something really nice with this, but to see you act like a kid and throw it back in peoples faces, people who supported you and donated to you, etc, I'll make it known in future next time you do one of your begging PAY ME OR I'LL QUIT rants.

How much money did you give to GooD-NTS then on a false promise?

I'm sorry, but when I promised consoles support or something like this?

I can return to you all your money.

 

 

0xArr, Please remove your SPAM links from here.

[Otter]

Oxarr, please start a new thread if you want to discuss another project. Your post has been removed.

[GooD-NTS]

The Music of Grand Theft Auto V

[Alexander Blade]

Okay guys , leme describe you the way it was with IV and the way it is and will be with V , for everyone whos doubting this and still telling about some other blah-blah-ppl there is a [search] button up there ^ .

 

At first we had quite a lot of people working with IV when it first arrived in 2k8 , new engine was fascinating and everyone did what is always happening with newly arrived games - dig archives , textures , config files and dump some models geometry , THATS IT . There was nothing more what was done by some any other 3rd party persons which were not involved in gtaf community or were not already doing a lot of modding breakthroughs by that time . That part (at least the biggest piece) , which definitely involves a lot of efforts and time , was bring here by us , aru , boris vorontsov and oleg the author of zmodeller . Don't you dare to say such things for the people who didn't left after the game's hot time was over . And where the f were all of that random cool guyz with their super-ultra-mega-tools when we dig resources and when we needed more hands , such ppl r around only when the game is hot , not after , this is the way modding works for them .

 

I'm not saying anything bad about other bug big V tools developers , cuz what I admire in people is their uniq knowledge and ability to use it , which all of us are seeing now while observing like V public research is taking a place . But believe me , they will left their software with limited functional and there will be no one who can continue that tools development . If you want to know why there is no public .black for V then the answer is simple - we didn't want R* to change the formats and encryption ways if PC version cames out , not mentioning that console modding is not legal , but that was back to the days when we saw insides of V in a first time and there was no other tools , now it doesn't matter but we stand for whatever we said .

 

You think we don't want competitors or other people in modding who can build tools or whatever ? I mean , do you REALLY think that ? And the answer is - we want all of them here , we want them to build tools , we want them to dig the game as much as possible , we want people who's passioned about modding and coding here , the people who will try to overcome our achievements , who will do what we do and even beyond . Don't you get it ? Now it's not the time for finding and maintaining a place in the modding for a single person or a group , it's about fkn KEEPING GTA MODDING ALIVE .

 

It's getting more and more complicated with each new game generation , it requires more efforts , more skills and more patience . Let's look at VC and SA - it was easy to mod , even a beginner could easily start making new maps and models growing his techniques , almost all of us started on this two , and now look like things are going with IV and what are the quality standards for the tech we are dealing with , it can't be compared . Modding with producing content like maps and models was usually pushed by the young modders generation , and now they either can't do that because they have no appropriate skills , or they will think twice before doing this , because if u have skills even of the average SA modeller you can easily find a job and get the real money instead of some mysterious modder's karma , they won't go both ways at one time . So guess which one will be chosen ? They have no passion for the modding like we had , the passion which wakes up in us now even after so many years .

I pushed the modding when no one in the community knew me , I pushed when no one here cared , I pushed alone and when it was only for myself , I pushed whatever ppl were saying , I pushed ONLY BECAUSE I LUVED THE MODDING , SO DON'T YOU DARE TELLING ME WHAT TO DO .

Edited September 25, 2013 by Alexander Blade

[xroc88]

Thank you so much for providing the audio files!!

[Ash_735]

Oh look guys, look how special GooD-NTS is, isn't he amazing that he can access all of the audio, and show it off, and yet treat us like dirt and never allow us to use it. Man, GooD-NTS, you're a great scam, erm, modder, yeah yeah, that's the one. It's a shame others are already catching up to that, enjoy your ego boost for now though, mr OH SO GREAT GooD-NTS.

 

And PS: I don't want the money back, that's not the issue, the issue is how YOU treated your donaters after that, you pleaded for the money and said how you'll be more open and stuff, and after we gave you money, you just cut us all off, that sh*t isn't cool dude, and I'm just making sure others know about it.

[TJGM]

Oh look guys, look how special GooD-NTS is, isn't he amazing that he can access all of the audio, and show it off, and yet treat us like dirt and never allow us to use it. Man, GooD-NTS, you're a great scam, erm, modder, yeah yeah, that's the one. It's a shame others are already catching up to that, enjoy your ego boost for now though, mr OH SO GREAT GooD-NTS.

 

And PS: I don't want the money back, that's not the issue, the issue is how YOU treated your donaters after that, you pleaded for the money and said how you'll be more open and stuff, and after we gave you money, you just cut us all off, that sh*t isn't cool dude, and I'm just making sure others know about it.

It's hilarious how you're going to get the hate now for telling the truth.. Pretty sad tbh.

[NTAuthority]

slightly relevant... could someone at least document Max Payne's drawable/bounds formats if OpenIV is probably never going to be able to export them to a workable format?

[[email protected]!T]

Oh look guys, look how special GooD-NTS is, isn't he amazing that he can access all of the audio, and show it off, and yet treat us like dirt and never allow us to use it. Man, GooD-NTS, you're a great scam, erm, modder, yeah yeah, that's the one. It's a shame others are already catching up to that, enjoy your ego boost for now though, mr OH SO GREAT GooD-NTS.

 

And PS: I don't want the money back, that's not the issue, the issue is how YOU treated your donaters after that, you pleaded for the money and said how you'll be more open and stuff, and after we gave you money, you just cut us all off, that sh*t isn't cool dude, and I'm just making sure others know about it.

You look like a spoiled child.

You do not think about the consequences.

I saw that there are other, became jealous start whining.

Suppose the program will follow your wishes.

What do you get?

Start parsing resources.

Who would guess that change the configuration files, and here it is an advantage online.

Write changes to disk files

Rockstar again swear by modders who have spoiled them all the plans.

Improve protection, spending their strength, then modders looking for her to get around.

Put a little money, thinking you will be given access to? No!, take the money and do not f*ck all brains. Tired of reading your verbal diarrhea.

After your posts in general there is no desire to do anything. Stop it!

People spend time and nerves on the program, and you have them distract his caustic posts.

Do not worry, be released when the program will be the PC release, it is now not necessary, since the entire GTA modding only on the PC.

Keep calm and have a good day!

[Ash_735]

English isn't your first language is it? And by all means you've not been here for the long haul, GooD-NTS has hinted and promised at certain things in the past, which never came to be, he pleaded at one point and acted like a child himself by refusing to work on OpenIV if people didn't give him money for it! What is the use of these videos? Think of that, apart from showing off and inflating his ego, he did the same thing for Red Dead Redemption and he NEVER released those tools, all he did was use it to prove a point that he CAN do it and then laughed at others.

 

Ask yourself this, how about Midnight Club LA and RDR, both are near enough dead games online wise on consoles, and yet GooD-NTS still refuses to let people have access to those tools, cheating happens online anyway, so one of his main reasons is out of the window, his other reason is pure lies, a little help with reverse engineering or asking people to get that information themselves could have been done instead, but no, he sits there and refuses to do so as others have now gone all open about it and made extremely fast progress.

 

Ask yourself this to, why does he always refer to competition as SPAM? He see's these open source and programs without his limits as lesser thans, again, his ego coming into play. GooD-NTS is a horrible and terrible person, not denying that he's done a lot, but in recent years all of that has gone to his head and turned him into a nasty and controlling person mad with power.

 

Remember who got you there in the first place GooD-NTS, remember those who promoted your basic OpenIV tools at the time all those years ago, remember those who gave you money when you needed it, etc, the way you have gone on to treat those people has been nothing short of a disgrace.

[Alt]

@ Ash

As I see there's no point to prove/explain you anything so

Edited September 26, 2013 by Alt

[GooD-NTS]

slightly relevant... could someone at least document Max Payne's drawable/bounds formats if OpenIV is probably never going to be able to export them to a workable format?

Don't worry I will back to work on regular OpenIV releases and Max Payne 3 features in the next month.

 

 

Man, GooD-NTS, you're a great scam, erm, modder, yeah yeah, that's the one.

I'm not a modder, I'm a software engeneer.

 

 

And PS: I don't want the money back, that's not the issue, the issue is how YOU treated your donaters after that, you pleaded for the money and said how you'll be more open and stuff, and after we gave you money, you just cut us all off, that sh*t isn't cool dude, and I'm just making sure others know about it.

English isn't your first language is it? And by all means you've not been here for the long haul, GooD-NTS has hinted and promised at certain things in the past, which never came to be, he pleaded at one point and acted like a child himself by refusing to work on OpenIV if people didn't give him money for it! What is the use of these videos? Think of that, apart from showing off and inflating his ego, he did the same thing for Red Dead Redemption and he NEVER released those tools, all he did was use it to prove a point that he CAN do it and then laughed at others.

I'm never promis anything for consoles version. If you show to me when and where I promise that I will release it right now.

I say it again: I make this project in this way since May of 2008.

 

 

 

Ask yourself this, how about Midnight Club LA and RDR, both are near enough dead games online wise on consoles, and yet GooD-NTS still refuses to let people have access to those tools, cheating happens online anyway, so one of his main reasons is out of the window, his other reason is pure lies, a little help with reverse engineering or asking people to get that information themselves could have been done instead, but no, he sits there and refuses to do so as others have now gone all open about it and made extremely fast progress.

You have a tool for RDR, You have tool for consoles version of GTAV.

So what are you want from me? If you don't like my videos then don't watch it. If you don't like my tools, do not use it.

 

You know why I not release tools for consoles version? Because we have some rules here, and if following the rules it bad thing so I'm horrible and terrible person.

 

 

 

Ask yourself this to, why does he always refer to competition as SPAM? He see's these open source and programs without his limits as lesser thans, again, his ego coming into play. GooD-NTS is a horrible and terrible person, not denying that he's done a lot, but in recent years all of that has gone to his head and turned him into a nasty and controlling person mad with power.

Because this topic is about OpenIV. Edited September 26, 2013 by GooD-NTS

[Ash_735]

And there you go people, if his post above proves anything, it's that he's a selfish jerk. I hope you remember this GooD-NTS the next time you start begging people for money "or else I'll stop working on OpenIV".

[EncryptedReality]

NTS works closely with more Russians there, i'm sure he isn't the only one involved.

 

 

However, stupidity of seeing only him post makes the other people overshadowed by him and taking all the fame.

[The Janitor]

 

First look at Grand Theft Auto V files

 

 

 

Could you explore the weapon sounds? I'm hoping to make a gun sound replacement pack for GTA V, I have some really good sounds prepared.

 

If you find them; are they mono or stereo? And are the automatic guns looped or singleshot?

 

I just think the GTA V guns sound so weak I'm desperately hoping I can replace them

[D T]

GooD, have you researched CLI files for the GTA IV video editor? I noticed animations still play in clips, even after I remove that specific animation from the game. Is this because clip capture records ALL movements, turns them into animations, and stores them in CLI so the video editor can play without anim.img?

Edited October 2, 2013 by Deadly Target

[Alexander Blade]

GooD, have you researched CLI files for the GTA IV video editor? I noticed animations still play in clips, even after I remove that specific animation from the game. Is this because clip capture records ALL movements, turns them into animations, and stores them in CLI so the video editor can play them without anim.img?

Not sure that without anim.img everything will work in the video editor in a proper way , but all bone positions are being recorded and stored in the CLI because this is much easier than all tasks/events recording and reproducing .

[Fireboyd78]

Couldn't help but drop by this thread and notice all of the hate GooD is getting for holding back OpenIV for GTA V/RDR/MCLA on consoles.

 

What the f*ck is wrong with you people? It's quite simple: console modding tools do not exist simply for the fact that the PC version is not out yet (because that's where the modding mainly is) and secondly, it's mostly due to morals. GooD does not want to be known as someone that helped console modding gain traction. It doesn't matter if RDR or MCLA are console-only, it's the right of GooD to not release his team's tools.

 

"But he shows off to everyone!"

 

Yeah, it's a programmer thing. I'm saying this because I'm in a similar situation right at the moment, and when you get so much work done on something, you can't help but feel proud about it, and show it to other people. I've loaded tons of data from a particular game series (won't advertise here), and have released to the public only one experimental tool that does nothing except show some information useful to programmers and a tree-view with a bunch of nodes that can be extracted. Other than that, it serves no purpose. On the other hand, I have more developer tools than I can count with my fingers that are for research use only. Sound like .black?

 

But I was still proud of it anyways, just like GooD was proud of his teams tools for RDR and MCLA and what not. You guys need to lay off of him and stop being a bunch of whiny-ass entitled punks. Try to be in the position of a programmer with a lot of power. One decision you make and it can cause a never-ending domino effect. In this case, GooD releasing console modding tools for RDR/MCLA would leave a bad note on his part, which I respect just as much as anyone else should. He has not signed a contract that says "All of your work are belong to GTAForums", in fact, he doesn't have to show any of you ungrateful pricks ANYTHING. He could just get up and walk away from here and never come back. Because he has that right.

 

Learn to show some respect, guys. I think GooD is owed an apology for this mistreatment and lack of respect for all of the work he's done. It's not an ego, it's called pride in your work. I have it and I'm not afraid to show it for my work, so good on Mr. NTS for doing the same.

 

OpenIV is and always will be the best tool - closed source or what-have-you. Haters gonna hate, I guess...

Edited September 29, 2013 by CarLuver69

[Ash_735]

Ok, but look at it from my point of view, where were you when GooD was begging for donations and throwing a tantrum saying he'll stop working on OpenIV if he doesn't get any money for it, etc? I was one of the people who gave him money, and more important, GooD has control over this program to the exacts, he could easily just release a version of OpenIV that allows Audio playback and texture viewing for RDR and MCLA but lack any actual ability to edit those.

 

Besides, GTARandom also pointed out earlier, the way he presents this, is as if it's all his work, when really there's a huge bulk of team behind it who do not get credit or the donations.

 

Fact is, yes, OpenIV is a great program, but it's also very restricted, locked off, and treats it's users like morons, and GooD's ego is to blame for that along with his shady actions. That's the reason here, how he treated people who donated to him in his time of need. Not to mention those of us who helped promote the tool and program back in the early days.

 

Again, Carl, no offense, but just like the other guy, you don't know the history behind this, I'm not some random guy having a moan here, I've helped promote OpenIv back when it was just a small program in testing, I've donated money to GooDs just to keep this project alive when it needed to be. And in return, as the years went on, he's got more and more restricted and arrogant and let his ego take over, don't let his "reasons" fool you, there are ways around them, he's just being a power mad jerk, which is a let down to see as he didn't used to be like that years ago.

[Fireboyd78]

I'd like to see proof of this "begging" and "throwing a tantrum" because that sounds like an exaggeration to me. And if the team who works on OpenIV had a problem with GooD being the one that advertises the work, they probably would have left by now. Maybe they don't care that their names aren't on the front page? It's not like GooD has them under his leash or something like that. They could very easily walk away if they were dissatisfied with the way things work. Clearly they're not.

 

You should back up what you're saying, because seeing as how you're the one blatantly attacking him in his own thread, he's held himself together quite well.

[Ash_735]

You want proof, THIS VERY SAME THREAD, go back a year or so, and you'll see the threats he made "If I don't reach the target, I'll stop working on OpenIV forever!".

 

As for other members, how can they walk away, once contributed, GooDS near enough cuts people off once he's got what he's wanted. Again, you're sticking up for him when you don't even know the full details, how long have you been using OpenIV? Do you know how much work we put in and promoted his tool to the mass GTA audience back in the early days? He's basically disrespectful, ironic enough, the exact thing you accuse us of being towards him, no, he's disrespectful to those who have helped him over the years.

 

As for yourself, you should be thanking me and the other people who donated, after all, if it wasn't for us, GooDs would have stopped working on OpenIV a long time ago!

[Fireboyd78]

You want proof, THIS VERY SAME THREAD, go back a year or so, and you'll see the threats he made "If I don't reach the target, I'll stop working on OpenIV forever!".

 

As for other members, how can they walk away, once contributed, GooDS near enough cuts people off once he's got what he's wanted. Again, you're sticking up for him when you don't even know the full details, how long have you been using OpenIV? Do you know how much work we put in and promoted his tool to the mass GTA audience back in the early days? He's basically disrespectful, ironic enough, the exact thing you accuse us of being towards him, no, he's disrespectful to those who have helped him over the years.

 

As for yourself, you should be thanking me and the other people who donated, after all, if it wasn't for us, GooDs would have stopped working on OpenIV a long time ago!

 

So, is this what you're talking about?

 

 

OpenIV It is the biggest and ambitious project we’ve ever made. And we enjoy it. We like that fact OpenIV have run more than 7 thousands of times every day. We really enjoy developing OpenIV and seeing how GTA IV modding is become better and better every day. But now we really need your support. If you want to see new cool features for GTA IV modding, if you want to see Max Payne 3 modding alive, now it is time to support OpenIV.

 

You think this is being egotistical?