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Not to think about that new species of crap, called "griefers".

 

That sort of people are destroying the whole MP-thing.

I would say even Rockstar should not be happy about that deployment.

 

Here is some sort of acting needed... in these days I tend even to avoid the MP generally.

When I read some posts here in these forum about griefing and greifers.. .. I get a cold puke!

 

Such an amount of antisocial crap of people is unbelievable.

 

What are the benefits of destroying otherones game-experiences? I don´t get it!

 

Same thing with cheaters in MP.

I have nothing against people using cheats in SP... why should I, but when others are effected by this... NO GO!

well "griefing" aint new take a look at myg0t,

 

just got to hope the don't go onto gta 4!

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This is one reason why I avoid PC games, I figured Rockstar would basically have no cheat protection.

 

 

 

They are probably the same people who ruined SAMP for me, f*cking figures.

 

So do you still have to try to kick with vote by phone or can you host and kick/ban via console?

 

wow, two posts in a row from consolers in the pc area..

LOL

I KNEW IT !!!!!!!!

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Cheating in SP is fine by me, I personally dont use cheats in SP till AFTER I've beaten the game, but cheating in multiplayer is like going to the movie theaters and after watching it you yell out what happens at the end...

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Here's my worry: MS or Rock* is going to step in at some point and we all know they don't quite have the dexterity of surgeons when it comes to fixing problems. They're heavy handed approach will probably see dozens of legitimate users getting banned for doing things like adjusting the 'p' blur settings which should be perfectly fine because it can be legitimately disabled altogether.

 

It's probably best until official word is heard to be very very careful what you change as they're likely to implement something without telling us first because that's just the kind of thinkers they are. It's amazing to think they failed to include any anti cheat system whatsoever.

 

The cadillac way for this to have been done was a) let people modify their files (that way you won't be surprised when we uhh, start modifying files) and then b) insure everybody on the server is sharing the same config files, it's just text, it's small, server hands out its copy and everyone temporarily uses that. That way at least everyone's on the same field and if you hate rocket launcher pistols as much as I do you'll avoid those servers.

 

Like EdGein just said, SP cheating and MP cheating are whole different animals. One is wonderfully enjoyable, the other is simply inconsiderate at best.

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I just wish some of these people who actually create these mods would use their obvious talent and create an anti-cheating mod instead lol

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What's funny is that the host is treated like any other player. You have to get majority vote kick to remove someone, you have no power to just kick/ban in GTA IV as a host.

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I dont remember seeing as vote kick option, how'd you do that?

 

I guessing its going to be like other games where half the players dont bother to vote so the vote fails every time

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Cheating in SP is fine by me, I personally dont use cheats in SP till AFTER I've beaten the game, but cheating in multiplayer is like going to the movie theaters and after watching it you yell out what happens at the end...

I don't cheat on any games, but sorry to say, this topic is stupid and proves your no better than cheaters.

 

If you want to play free roaming, turn friendly fire off and lock the server. You have a forum here dedicated to GTA! Why not make a new topic asking for players who want to play free roaming without cheats?? Then the people who reply, ask them to state their gametag, job done.

 

As for cheating in GTAIV as a whole... What else is there to do??? The only thing I do in MP on GTAIV is use the swing or kill cops. Everything else is boring...

 

So basically, grow up and stop letting cheaters get the better of you.

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Cheating in SP is fine by me, I personally dont use cheats in SP till AFTER I've beaten the game, but cheating in multiplayer is like going to the movie theaters and after watching it you yell out what happens at the end...

I don't cheat on any games, but sorry to say, this topic is stupid and proves your no better than cheaters.

 

If you want to play free roaming, turn friendly fire off and lock the server. You have a forum here dedicated to GTA! Why not make a new topic asking for players who want to play free roaming without cheats?? Then the people who reply, ask them to state their gametag, job done.

 

As for cheating in GTAIV as a whole... What else is there to do??? The only thing I do in MP on GTAIV is use the swing or kill cops. Everything else is boring...

 

So basically, grow up and stop letting cheaters get the better of you.

I am no better then THEM? I cant make out why, could you please Explain? All that I am doing is posting my thoughts and views on this game WHICH IS WHAT THIS FORUM IS FOR FYI. you should be the one that grows up because people like you make it seem as if its ok to cheat...

 

either way its a loose loose, let the cheaters know that it pisses you off and it makes them feel better, make them think you dont care, makes them think its allowed and its ok to do it... same goes with real life situations, but some day karma bites you in the ass, so if you cheat then someday you will get caught and banned, your just gunna be another sterotype cheating prick that goes on IRC or a forum and gets on their knee's and begs to be unbanned...

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cheating is cheating..No matter if you do it in SP or MP, its still fackin cheating..

Now these people who admit to it, sure, your good for being honest, but in all honesty, without using your cheats against us legit players, you just suck ass without them. BTW, only low life kids cheat..Ones who dont have the brains to practice nor the balls to play a game fairly.

Ever heard of the expression once a cheater always a cheater..Maybe you should tell that to your girlfriend tonight, I cheated, Yay..fackin losers..hope she kicks you right square in your sack and drops you to the floor, cause thats how us legit players feel when losers like you come to ruin a game.

Anything to have an unfair advantage over other players huh!!! childish if you ask me

All I can say is you cheaters, whether its in SP or in MP (and really if you have to cheat in GTA IV SP you must really suck cause the missions are pretty damn easy), should be bitch slapped and their computer thrown down a frikin 50 story building.

 

 

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i use 500,000 force on the Deagle but only in singleplayer i disable it on multiplayer not to give me an advantage, i only use deagle in multiplayer agianst cops on certain ocasions

 

i hate MTA i love the current MP i don't want a f*cking piece of sh*t made from MTA I'd rather Kyeman the SA-MP Creator to make it

 

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cheating is cheating..No matter if you do it in SP or MP, its still fackin cheating..

Now these people who admit to it, sure, your good for being honest, but in all honesty, without using your cheats against us legit players, you just suck ass without them. BTW, only low life kids cheat..Ones who dont have the brains to practice nor the balls to play a game fairly.

Ever heard of the expression once a cheater always a cheater..Maybe you should tell that to your girlfriend tonight, I cheated, Yay..fackin losers..hope she kicks you right square in your sack and drops you to the floor, cause thats how us legit players feel when losers like you come to ruin a game.

Anything to have an unfair advantage over other players huh!!! childish if you ask me

All I can say is you cheaters, whether its in SP or in MP (and really if you have to cheat in GTA IV SP you must really suck cause the missions are pretty damn easy), should be bitch slapped and their computer thrown down a frikin 50 story building.

wow your a air head, I think I deserve to use cheats after beating this game 100% f*cking percent winning the contest... only morons like you are to serious about a game never to use cheats, and I actually think your full of BS because I've never met anyone that has never ever in their life played a game without some form of cheats weather its mods, trainers, hacks, or typin cheats...

 

 

you my friend EPIC fail

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wow your a air head, I think I deserve to use cheats after beating this game 100% f*cking percent winning the contest... only morons like you are to serious about a game never to use cheats, and I actually think your full of BS because I've never met anyone that has never ever in their life played a game without some form of cheats weather its mods, trainers, hacks, or typin cheats...

 

 

you my friend EPIC fail

You are an "epic fail" my friend. Listen to yourself for Christ sake... Go find some friends who "don't cheat". Then, host a locked server and enjoy the cheat free game you long for. Giving childish abuse to everyone just because they think your a moron is missing the point.

 

What world are you living in? Every game has cheats/hacks. If a game has a cheat protection, it gives cheaters/hackers more of an incentive. I don't agree with what they do, but some of the times they fix problems with the games that the devs will take months to fix or maybe never fix.

 

If you had a problem with your game, like the control problem for example where you have to replace the .dll files which allows you to use other controllers. Would you be classed as a hacker or cheater? You would jump at the chance to try something to fix your game that's not made by the devs. So stop being a hypocrite, and move on...

 

What you don't understand about cheaters, they get thrills from immature players like yourself crying about cheats, which then eggs them on to carry on. I had my fair share or discussions like this in the past with other games that have resulted in nothing more than abuse or flaming, so now I have given up. I bite my lip and move on, something that you need to learn and do.

 

*Awaits more childish abuse...*

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Well i havent read all replies. So i have no idea if there are any cheaters who try to defend their position.

 

However, i like how i sometimes managed to successfully fight cheaters in SAMP... i mean, they are noob enough to start up their cheats, but then they still loose? wtf?

 

However, many cheaters only gain "fame" for some minutes and then get banned. And i havent met any cheaters on GTA 4 yet. Most of them probably belong to those who cant play the game correctly and blame rockstar all the time. I dont care about those.

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Most people blame Rockstar for a poorly optimised BETA which they have paid full price for. If they can't play the game how it should be played, you wouldn't have any interest to play at all. Before you start making false accusations, try reading the PC section. wink.gif Almost every post is to do with technical issues with the game.

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i agree why pay for a game you are going to cheat it it takes the point out of playing the game and also you get to the top ranks big wow what you gonna do demand a medal and a million bucks so if u have the game and u cheat you may as well sell it

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wow your a air head, I think I deserve to use cheats after beating this game 100% f*cking percent winning the contest... only morons like you are to serious about a game never to use cheats, and I actually think your full of BS because I've never met anyone that has never ever in their life played a game without some form of cheats weather its mods, trainers, hacks, or typin cheats...

 

 

you my friend EPIC fail

You are an "epic fail" my friend. Listen to yourself for Christ sake... Go find some friends who "don't cheat". Then, host a locked server and enjoy the cheat free game you long for. Giving childish abuse to everyone just because they think your a moron is missing the point.

 

What world are you living in? Every game has cheats/hacks. If a game has a cheat protection, it gives cheaters/hackers more of an incentive. I don't agree with what they do, but some of the times they fix problems with the games that the devs will take months to fix or maybe never fix.

 

If you had a problem with your game, like the control problem for example where you have to replace the .dll files which allows you to use other controllers. Would you be classed as a hacker or cheater? You would jump at the chance to try something to fix your game that's not made by the devs. So stop being a hypocrite, and move on...

 

What you don't understand about cheaters, they get thrills from immature players like yourself crying about cheats, which then eggs them on to carry on. I had my fair share or discussions like this in the past with other games that have resulted in nothing more than abuse or flaming, so now I have given up. I bite my lip and move on, something that you need to learn and do.

 

*Awaits more childish abuse...*

if that .dll happends to alter your game to the point of it giving you an UNFAIR advantage then yes it is a hack and should be treated as a cheat...

 

and whats wrong with your f*cking brain that you confuse fixes with cheats... did your parents like drop you down the stairs or something because I would think you would know the difference between something so simple as fixes and cheats...

 

The reason why people cheat is because there is nothing stoping them... I have yet to see a cheater on CS or any other VAC secured game... know why people are cautious about cheating on that sh*t??? give up?? because they have something to loose...

 

 

Make all the big paragraphics you want my friend, because I dont need to write that much to show saps like you up.

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Lol...

 

You haven't seen any hackers in CS? That game is one or the worst games for cheaters/hackers. Learn your facts first "friend".

 

As for my parents, maybe they did drop me, maybe they never... But maybe your parents should drop you on the head to knock some sense into that tiny brain of yours?

 

As for fixes and cheats... What was it you said? Okay, I'll remind you...

 

"I've never met anyone that has never ever in their life played a game without some form of cheats weather its mods, trainers, hacks, or typin cheats..."

 

Damn you really are a moron? Think before you speak next time. And, as for the .dll "fix". That .dll file has been modified and its NOT official. It can give players an advantage. Just because you can't see through walls or have rocket propelled pistols, doesn't mean its not a hack. Seriously "friend", I don't think you or anyone else for that matter has a clue what your going on about.

 

As for my paragraphs... Is that jealously I sense?

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This is one reason why I avoid PC games, I figured Rockstar would basically have no cheat protection.

 

 

 

They are probably the same people who ruined SAMP for me, f*cking figures.

 

So do you still have to try to kick with vote by phone or can you host and kick/ban via console?

 

wow, two posts in a row from consolers in the pc area..

LOL

I KNEW IT !!!!!!!!

yes because on the console you can open up the console and input a kick/ban command when hosting a server.

I have the PC version, just have only played MP on colsole so far, haven't even been able to run the game on my PC yet because mu 8800 died on me and my backup is an old x800xl , luckily its though BFG and another is on the way, should be here on monday but anyway I was just curious if you had to kick people that same way or if you could open the console and kick/ban when hosting, not sure how that makes me a consoler.

 

EDIT: not sure how someone playing the SA:MP mod for the PC makes them one either for that matter.

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Sup,

 

the last cheats I used were for Contra on the NES. Up,up,down,down,left,right,left,right,b,a,b,a,start,select or something. I have never cheated in an online game, i think it shows very little talent. Now if everyone is cheating for a good time, no worries from me, it is when the pick on the guys who are not, those guys are just pussies.

 

Skape

 

 

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No I have honestly NEVER seen a cheater nor hacker in CS or any other VAC secured game in my life...

 

as for

 

"I've never met anyone that has never ever in their life played a game without some form of cheats weather its mods, trainers, hacks, or typin cheats..."

 

maybe you should have read the part

 

"cheating is cheating..No matter if you do it in SP or MP, its still fackin cheating.."

 

by our good friend slamm, so maybe you should skim a bit longer before posting instead of taking your info out of your ass... I have NEVER met anyone who hasn't used cheats in either single player nor multiplayer.plus...what in the world are you trying to prove there? I never said "in every game" now did I?

 

*sorry If I didn't quite get what your trying to prove there.*

 

and when did I say "edited .dll's can not be used for hacks..." I never said such a thing, edited .dll's can be used for 'fixes' such as the many problems that GTAIV is infected with today, but if people decide to make/edit them to give them selfs an UNFAIR advantage then yes it is in the cheat category and should be greeted with a ban in any server. and... there is a difference between, "advantage" and "unfair advantage" you know... "unfair advantage" could be in a situation such as speed hacks, or health reduction. while plain old "advantage" could be improved FPS.

 

same goes with exploits, I'll use gears of war as an example... there is this 'exploit' where you crouch and jump or something.. I personally never did it but my bro did, and it makes you sprint and give you the ability to shoot at the same time *anyone with GoW will be familure with this* that is an *unfair advantage* because it isnt intended and its just plain gay... and example of *advantage* is spawning closer to ammo...

 

I hope you've learned the difference's between the words 'unfair advantage' and 'advantage'

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Hi, I have been reading around the forums that there is a pathetic amount of cheaters in this game, as a old school player of sa-mp I would like to make it clear that you people are Pathetic f*ckers that only cheat because you think your Badass online, but in the end you all get banned... I've seen MANY cheaters in my time in Sa-mp, just about everyone after getting banned would go on the LW or LVP irc begging to be unbaned saying you will never do it again, It makes my day to see you f*ckers get to your knees and beg for an unban...

 

I Say... if MTA every decides to make a MP mod for GTAIV *more players or some sh*t... heard it somewhere*, I think EVERY f*cker that uses a cheat device of ANY kind should be subnet banned. you are not just ruining the game for other people... your ruining it for your selves, you payed 50$ for what, a game that you will play just to cheat in?

 

 

 

I decided to post this because I am sick and tired of all these cheaters... it wont really change anything but I just needed to basically vent tounge.gif

yeah, well, f*ck you too

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No I have honestly NEVER seen a cheater nor hacker in CS or any other VAC secured game in my life...

 

as for

 

"I've never met anyone that has never ever in their life played a game without some form of cheats weather its mods, trainers, hacks, or typin cheats..."

 

maybe you should have read the part

 

"cheating is cheating..No matter if you do it in SP or MP, its still fackin cheating.."

 

by our good friend slamm, so maybe you should skim a bit longer before posting instead of taking your info out of your ass... I have NEVER met anyone who hasn't used cheats in either single player nor multiplayer.plus...what in the world are you trying to prove there? I never said "in every game" now did I?

 

*sorry If I didn't quite get what your trying to prove there.*

 

and when did I say "edited .dll's can not be used for hacks..." I never said such a thing, edited .dll's can be used for 'fixes' such as the many problems that GTAIV is infected with today, but if people decide to make/edit them to give them selfs an UNFAIR advantage then yes it is in the cheat category and should be greeted with a ban in any server. and... there is a difference between, "advantage" and "unfair advantage" you know... "unfair advantage" could be in a situation such as speed hacks, or health reduction. while plain old "advantage" could be improved FPS.

 

same goes with exploits, I'll use gears of war as an example... there is this 'exploit' where you crouch and jump or something.. I personally never did it but my bro did, and it makes you sprint and give you the ability to shoot at the same time *anyone with GoW will be familure with this* that is an *unfair advantage* because it isnt intended and its just plain gay... and example of *advantage* is spawning closer to ammo...

 

I hope you've learned the difference's between the words 'unfair advantage' and 'advantage'

You don't have to look far to find a cheater in CS, try opening your eyes, or are you too busy crying on forums about cheaters?

 

As for the cheating part... You clearly have lost the plot, sorry. Any file that has been modified and is NOT official, is a hack of "some sort" whether its a fix or cheat. Google is your friend, use it.

 

About advantages... If I use the modified .dll file so I can use my PS3 controller, and you have just a normal USB controller that doesn't seem to work with the modified .dll file, forcing you to use a mouse and keyboard (which you can't use to save your life and would prefer the control). Then after that we have a race and I piss all over you. Who has the advantage? Come on, I'm sure your brain is big enough to figure this out....

 

So with your theory, I'm a cheater? As you can see, I have the advantage, and you have the "unfair" advantage. Whether its a fix or not, I used that modified file to beat you. So I'm the cheater? Now hopefully you have learned something?

 

BTW, what's your gametag? Is it "Tobias" by any chance? Judging from your posts, I'd say this video matches your attitude perfectly...

 

TAKE A LOOK AND SEE! Because this is what I'm seeing each time I read your posts.

 

I see your paragraphs are getting bigger, your learning kid, keep it up. icon14.gif

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Cheaters are people who are not good enough. Or people who like to hurt other people.

The second are immature humans, and if every human in the world would be like that, then we would soon be back in stoneage.

Humans are most successfull when they live social beside each other.

 

This can ofc be discussed until the end of the world. But im not in the mood.

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No I have honestly NEVER seen a cheater nor hacker in CS or any other VAC secured game in my life...

 

as for

 

"I've never met anyone that has never ever in their life played a game without some form of cheats weather its mods, trainers, hacks, or typin cheats..."

 

maybe you should have read the part

 

"cheating is cheating..No matter if you do it in SP or MP, its still fackin cheating.."

 

by our good friend slamm, so maybe you should skim a bit longer before posting instead of taking your info out of your ass... I have NEVER met anyone who hasn't used cheats in either single player nor multiplayer.plus...what in the world are you trying to prove there? I never said "in every game" now did I?

 

*sorry If I didn't quite get what your trying to prove there.*

 

and when did I say "edited .dll's can not be used for hacks..." I never said such a thing, edited .dll's can be used for 'fixes' such as the many problems that GTAIV is infected with today, but if people decide to make/edit them to give them selfs an UNFAIR advantage then yes it is in the cheat category and should be greeted with a ban in any server. and... there is a difference between, "advantage" and "unfair advantage" you know... "unfair advantage" could be in a situation such as speed hacks, or health reduction. while plain old "advantage" could be improved FPS.

 

same goes with exploits, I'll use gears of war as an example... there is this 'exploit' where you crouch and jump or something.. I personally never did it but my bro did, and it makes you sprint and give you the ability to shoot at the same time *anyone with GoW will be familure with this* that is an *unfair advantage* because it isnt intended and its just plain gay... and example of *advantage* is spawning closer to ammo...

 

I hope you've learned the difference's between the words 'unfair advantage' and 'advantage'

You don't have to look far to find a cheater in CS, try opening your eyes, or are you too busy crying on forums about cheaters?

 

As for the cheating part... You clearly have lost the plot, sorry. Any file that has been modified and is NOT official, is a hack of "some sort" whether its a fix or cheat. Google is your friend, use it.

 

About advantages... If I use the modified .dll file so I can use my PS3 controller, and you have just a normal USB controller that doesn't seem to work with the modified .dll file, forcing you to use a mouse and keyboard (which you can't use to save your life and would prefer the control). Then after that we have a race and I piss all over you. Who has the advantage? Come on, I'm sure your brain is big enough to figure this out....

 

So with your theory, I'm a cheater? As you can see, I have the advantage, and you have the "unfair" advantage. Whether its a fix or not, I used that modified file to beat you. So I'm the cheater? Now hopefully you have learned something?

 

BTW, what's your gametag? Is it "Tobias" by any chance? Judging from your posts, I'd say this video matches your attitude perfectly...

 

TAKE A LOOK AND SEE! Because this is what I'm seeing each time I read your posts.

 

I see your paragraphs are getting bigger, your learning kid, keep it up. icon14.gif

"I see your paragraphs are getting bigger, your learning kid, keep it up."

 

Yea, but if you read them completely I dont try to prove my points as hard as you which ultimately you leave people confused and you think that you baffled them. I'am more of a let loose person that speaks their mind more which allows me to prove a point with less text and more understandable points as I will prove in this post

 

 

You could indeed beat me either way at racing because I suck at racing so I dont really care and it has no effect on me, but since you downloaded a custom .dll to play a game with a ps3 controller in which the game is not supposed to support then yes, that is an 'unfair advantage' and is considered a cheat since it isnt ment to be played that way and you are doing it any ways and it give you that "skill" that you are claiming you have there lol... so you used something that was not intended to be in the game to beat me...grats... it is a cheat and you would get banned/kicked for using it in any other games that are not supposed to support it *in multiplayer, use what you will in SP*

 

I can promise you that sa-mp admins on LW and LVP would agree with me... when they hear about someone using a controller they ban them without warning... last time I checked a controller isn't a keyboard and mouse.

 

and FYI your paragraphs are making less and less sense

 

"So with your theory, I'm a cheater? As you can see, I have the advantage, and you have the "unfair" advantage. Whether its a fix or not, I used that modified file to beat you. So I'm the cheater? Now hopefully you have learned something?"

 

What is your 'advantage' and my "unfair" advantage again...It got lost in your paragraphs I suppose? If I decode all your paragraphs am I gunna find a map to the city of lost gold?

 

you need to clarify your sentencing before you post my friend.

 

My Gamertag is secret to prevent flame.

 

@Angry german kid vid - lol I may get heated up in games at times *sure we all have* but I asure you I haven't come close to that...

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Pfff your a hypocrite and nothing more... So I would be called the cheat for using a modified .dll file just so I'm not forced to use an XBOX 360 control? The same file that you could also use but can't because your control is not supported? I take it that If I overclock my CPU so its faster than yours, that's a cheat as well?? If I have a better graphics card than yours, I'm classed as a cheat?? Nice theory's you have there, maybe you should go play on the console instead, just until you truly understand how PC's work.

 

As for racing, did I specify a game? We are in a GTA forum, and driving is 90% of the game! Are you sure you have played GTA?

 

About the German kid, I can see your posts are starting to cleaned themselves up after realising how childish and immature you are compared to that video? Well done, your almost there!

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MP cheaters waste my time. Which as it happens only children seem to think is infinite.

The people who release mp cheats are the real sickos.

 

Intelligent yet morally corrupt.

 

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cheating is cheating..No matter if you do it in SP or MP, its still fackin cheating..

Now these people who admit to it, sure, your good for being honest, but in all honesty, without using your cheats against us legit players, you just suck ass without them. BTW, only low life kids cheat..Ones who dont have the brains to practice nor the balls to play a game fairly.

Ever heard of the expression once a cheater always a cheater..Maybe you should tell that to your girlfriend tonight, I cheated, Yay..fackin losers..hope she kicks you right square in your sack and drops you to the floor, cause thats how us legit players feel when losers like you come to ruin a game.

Anything to have an unfair advantage over other players huh!!! childish if you ask me

All I can say is you cheaters, whether its in SP or in MP (and really if you have to cheat in GTA IV SP you must really suck cause the missions are pretty damn easy), should be bitch slapped and their computer thrown down a frikin 50 story building.

Exactly! Only little boys cheat biggrin.gif.

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