gta iv pc poor sales

[LolaDelRio]

 

No if we constantly get quick rushed ports from the console which will not maximize the hardware capability we have.

You're wrong.

 

The PC version of GTA IV is NOT a port, the game was created on a PC so it's not a port. The only thing that is stopping GTA IV on PC from being a great game for everyone is the Games for Windows Live title. It's got awful scripting.

 

 

Trust me I know these things.

[ThomasPL]

I was waiting for PC version, and I was very happy when I was saw the info about confirmed PC version. Now I don't want to buy this crappy game for 50 dollars. I will waiting for new patches and buy this game later. Cheaper, with better optimalization patches and with AA patch.

[albieg]

 

Why are their always so many lame people with their tongue stuck down the back of the games companies trousers ? Just because the game "happens" to be running perfectly fine on your system, obviously that must mean that everyone else is full of crap. I mean, what else could it be...........

 

Because maybe they don't work in some IT firm and they think they've seen it all.

So it must be all fault of crappy systems and inept maintenance just because they don't have problems. If I'd answer the same thing to a customer of mine (It must be YOU because I don't have problems) I'd be fired in a few days as an idiot who can't do his job the right way.

In most cases such people are just enthusiasts who rant about their gaming rig without any real field experience or any kind of understanding: they see no problems on their machine, so it must be fine. It must be the lusers (to use an ooooold jargon term). No, it's not the lusers. It's the lousy coding and testing.

 

My crappy PC is far from being crappy and the quality of maintenance is on par with the one I'm obliged to perform professionally. I've been working for the last 10 years implementing and maintaining networks and this means I've seen lots of absurd problems in various kind of environments including a lot of expensive software that didn't work as intended. Support may be good, but some problems may be never solved. I got used to it. I understand it. I could quote a lot of cases, most of which ended with a refund. Hell, I even had an IBM technician warming a chair next to mine for almost a month because of a firmware trouble on a crappy $3000 IBM XSeries 3400, until they decided to take back the machine because they were unable to troubleshoot it after having changed it almost completely, with the exception of the case... until it happened again on another machine and after a week IBM developed a beta firmware to slow down the RAID5 boot times in order to make it work as intended. That was a lot of dedication for such a low end server, and a lot of lost money for IBM. But regardless of their inability in solving a specific problem on a specific machine, their attitude was extremely professional and aimed both at the resolution of a problem and at customer satisfaction. Most firms I work with have the same attitude in solving problems (Microsoft being one of the first if you have premium support as I do as both Certified Professional and MSDN subscriber, and with exception of Netgear which sports a piss poor support for what I experimented on several of their NAS boxes, or that total failure named SC101, but not limited to it).

 

What makes me really angry is the piss poor consideration of customers displayed by Rockstar. The port cost them almost nothing (all the design, art, capture and recordings were already done for consoles), so even low PC sales are going to compensate the total cost of the PC version. It seems that this port was rushed to make money in a hurry, then screw customers, who cares if they have problems.

 

As a customer, I care. I demand quality, because I pay. And I'm old enough I can decide not to buy another defective product from the same firm and stick to my decision, at work or at home, and keep the dignity that Rockstar (Toronto and the rest) lost, at least for me.

 

At the moment I'm able to play on my system, but with a Quad Core and a 1 GB HD4670 I'd expect something more than open doors suddenly turning to grey walls and back or cars dipping in the concrete because of texture pop-in/out even at low settings. Such episodes detract from the fun and the immersiveness. Not to mention the fact that before the patch (I have the Italian retail version) running it was a lottery, because it started 1 time out of 4 on a machine with no extra software, a tuned up XP installation and current hardware. It really makes you wonder about the delays, the poor testing and the poor sales... They sell too little? They deserve it. They're a bunch of liars with no dignity whose job on the PC is really poor.

Edited December 24, 2008 by albieg

[Pixelated]

 

No if we constantly get quick rushed ports from the console which will not maximize the hardware capability we have.

You're wrong.

 

The PC version of GTA IV is NOT a port, the game was created on a PC so it's not a port. The only thing that is stopping GTA IV on PC from being a great game for everyone is the Games for Windows Live title. It's got awful scripting.

 

 

Trust me I know these things.

Ha this game is a port. Of course it was made on the PC all console and PC games are. Where else do you think they would make it? On paper first? An Etch-a-Sketch? The bottom line is this game was made for consoles, designed on console optimized software with the specific console hardware in mind.

 

The basic definition of a console to PC port is: A game when originally designed that takes into account the hardware and user interface properties of a console system. When transferred to the PC the PC hardware is not used to the fullest and the games user interface is not changed only basic adaptation for keyboard\mouse support. Minimal changes are made and just enough to allow the game to be played. Saving money is the prime goal of a port. Even well done ports like Mas Effect.

 

A perfect example of what a port this game is. A modern top of the line PC has 10x the power of an XBox360 yet can only play GTA IV at half settings at under 30FPS. That means roughly 60-80% of the PC's power is underutilized or flat out wasted.

Edited December 24, 2008 by Pixelated

[Kurgen]

No if we constantly get quick rushed ports from the console which will not maximize the hardware capability we have.

You're wrong.

 

The PC version of GTA IV is NOT a port, the game was created on a PC so it's not a port. The only thing that is stopping GTA IV on PC from being a great game for everyone is the Games for Windows Live title. It's got awful scripting.

 

 

Trust me I know these things.

Oh, kindly do impart thy hallowed knowledge... How, exactly, should you "know these things"?

 

 

 

 

/this could be fun.

[One-time]

The PC version of GTA IV is NOT a port, the game was created on a PC so it's not a port. The only thing that is stopping GTA IV on PC from being a great game for everyone is the Games for Windows Live title. It's got awful scripting.

 

Trust me I know these things.

Let me laugh a little.

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAH!!!!

 

God, give me a break please.

[Psycold]

I really wish I pirated this instead of paying for it

[Turdist]

I really wish I pirated this instead of paying for it

I already said that ten times!

 

 

And i MEAN it! lmao

[ZaCkOX]

 

No if we constantly get quick rushed ports from the console which will not maximize the hardware capability we have.

You're wrong.

 

The PC version of GTA IV is NOT a port, the game was created on a PC so it's not a port. The only thing that is stopping GTA IV on PC from being a great game for everyone is the Games for Windows Live title. It's got awful scripting.

 

 

Trust me I know these things.

Ha this game is a port. Of course it was made on the PC all console and PC games are. Where else do you think they would make it? On paper first? An Etch-a-Sketch? The bottom line is this game was made for consoles, designed on console optimized software with the specific console hardware in mind.

 

The basic definition of a console to PC port is: A game when originally designed that takes into account the hardware and user interface properties of a console system. When transferred to the PC the PC hardware is not used to the fullest and the games user interface is not changed only basic adaptation for keyboard\mouse support. Minimal changes are made and just enough to allow the game to be played. Saving money is the prime goal of a port. Even well done ports like Mas Effect.

 

A perfect example of what a port this game is. A modern top of the line PC has 10x the power of an XBox360 yet can only play GTA IV at half settings at under 30FPS. That means roughly 60-80% of the PC's power is underutilized or flat out wasted.

The game is a port, it uses a god damn dos prompt to launch it. How many games do that anymore? Cockstar!

 

Look at Gears of War for PC, it runs about 25% faster than the xbox version. No lag, smooth play, with our fast computers, and you say GTA 4 PC is overrated, well f*ck you Cockstar!

 

If I was able to get a Xbox 360 emulator and play GTA 4, well it would be better than the crap you attempted to make... Cockstar!

 

You know what I did with this game, Cockstar? I left it in my trash bin and told all my friends not to buy your piece of sh*t.

 

Your slightly disappointing sales matches your slightly disappointing number of fans, at least you say we are a small number, Cockstar!

 

For every copy of GTA 4 PC you sale, you lose another GTA fanboy, Cockstar!

 

When I first installed your game, I was told I needed SP3 to start the game. After I installed sp3 and relaunched the game, I was told I needed 3.5 net frames. After I installed 3.5 net frames, I encountered multiple errors and had to install windows-live. After all that, I was able to get into the game, and the first thing I saw was no textures and received a game crash error. It said, Rockstar doesn't spell Rockstar With A *R*. Cockstar!

 

You know what is better than GTA 4 for PC Cockstar? GTA 4 for Xbox 360, COCKSTAR!

 

When you released your first patch, I was able to move in circles, but God Damn It COCKSTAR, I could already do that! COCKSTAR!

[Ducky is King]

I think this game was more or less a test run for the entire PC Gaming industry. this game, the series has IMMENSE potential. the following is HUGE It rivals the Sims.

 

However, the DRM involved in this game is about nothing more than control. Control over HOW people play the game. However, history shows us, that the PC Gaming community is much more resilient than the industry gives them credit for. For one, it took less than a week to crack the DRM on this game.

 

It took less than 2 weeks to crack the DRM sorrounding modded game files.

 

There is no doubt extreme talent available in the PC Gaming community. the problem is, the PC Gaming industry hasnt embraced that talent, instead, they try to counter it with DRM.

 

The game engine in GTA4 is a work of art. If you cant see that, you need to get your head examined. The engine in this game has MASSIVE potential. More so than any game presently on the market.

 

However it is MASSIVELY crippled by DRM which is a shame.

 

I believe most of our problems are DRM related and MS's issue revolving around control of the market. Game developers have grown used to the structure that consoles provide, and are attempting to port that structure to the PC arena. However we are a bit more resilient to structure and actually need to DEMAND freedom.

 

The sales results of retail sales proves that the PC Gaming community is saying no to DRM and controlled structure. Look at the reveiws from the community. People are SCREAMING bad crap about this game.

 

This games reveiws from the community will make a HUGE impact on the PC Gaming industry as a whole, as it shows the industry that us gamers, who are not your average PC user, but actually know how to use a computer are rebelling against control and structure. Which is a good thing.

 

After 15yrs of pc gaming its time that the PC Industry, which leads hardware development, embrace the talent that is at their obvious disposal and take the first step at embracing their fans instead of trying to alienate themselves like every other industry related to the PC is doing. If the PC industry said 'Look, we WANT and NEED PC Community support to bring this game to its full potential' this game would take off in ways you cant imagine.

 

Instead, the industry as a whole is saying 'we dont want you help, your ideas or your thoughts. We only care about your money, hand it over so we can give you the shaft and lock you out'

 

Thats really what it comes down to.

 

I buy my games because I firmly believe that unless they make money on the games they make for the PC, then the PC gaming industry will end. And you cant blame sh*tty sales on piracy. Piracy is WAY over blown by the media.

 

If you actually bothered to pay attention, you would notice, that MOST people dont know the first thing about how to successfully pirate anything more than an MP3, and even that is a stretch.

 

Piracy is more of a 'show' than it is a problem. Piracy is used as a scape goat by every industry as an excuse for a failed or failing business model. Instead of embracing the talent that is available world wide, theyd rather fight it, and lose money. Just look at the RIAA.

[Discaciate]

Some very good points on this thread.

 

I bought this game but I returned to the store. I wonder how those cases (and there are quite a few of them in the GTA IV sales) appear on the charts.

 

[.:Alex:.]

Heh. You reap what you sow. Rockstar planted rotten seeds; they've gotten a bad, bad harvest.

[The Horror Is Alive]

Pretty much as expected, those that didn't steal it just bitched and whined till it killed off any remaining sales and we wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

You are such a stupid sh*t. Probably only about 20% have the specs of your computer, and then about 5% would only be able to run it good/at all.

 

Get your goddamn facts straight.

[Pixelated]

 

I think this game was more or less a test run for the entire PC Gaming industry.  this game,  the series has IMMENSE potential. the following is HUGE  It rivals the Sims.

 

However,  the DRM involved in this game is about nothing more than control.  Control over HOW people play the game.  However,  history shows us,  that the PC Gaming community is much more resilient than the industry gives them credit for.  For one,  it took less than a week to crack the DRM on this game.

 

It took less than 2 weeks to crack the DRM sorrounding modded game files.

 

There is no doubt extreme talent available in the PC Gaming community.  the problem is,  the PC Gaming industry hasnt embraced that talent,  instead, they try to counter it with DRM.

 

The game engine in GTA4 is a work of art.  If you cant see that,  you need to get your head examined.  The engine in this game has MASSIVE potential.  More so than any game presently on the market.

 

However it is MASSIVELY crippled by DRM which is a shame.

 

I believe most of our problems are DRM related and MS's issue revolving around control of the market.  Game developers have grown used to the structure that consoles provide, and are attempting to port that structure to the PC arena.  However we are a bit more resilient to structure and actually need to DEMAND freedom. 

 

The sales results of retail sales proves that the PC Gaming community is saying no to DRM and controlled structure.  Look at the reveiws from the community.  People are SCREAMING bad crap about this game. 

 

This games reveiws from the community will make a HUGE impact on the PC Gaming industry as a whole, as it shows the industry that us gamers, who are not your average PC user, but actually know how to use a computer are rebelling against control and structure.  Which is a good thing.

 

After 15yrs of pc gaming its time that the PC Industry, which leads hardware development,  embrace the talent that is at their obvious disposal and take the first step at embracing their fans instead of trying to alienate themselves like every other industry related to the PC is doing.  If the PC industry said 'Look,  we WANT and NEED PC Community support to bring this game to its full potential'  this game would take off in ways you cant imagine. 

 

Instead, the industry as a whole is saying 'we dont want you help, your ideas or your thoughts.  We only care about your money, hand it over so we can give you the shaft and lock you out'

 

Thats really what it comes down to.

 

I buy my games because I firmly believe that unless they make money on the games they make for the PC,  then the PC gaming industry will end.  And you cant blame sh*tty sales on piracy.  Piracy is WAY  over blown by the media.

 

If you actually bothered to pay attention, you would notice, that MOST people dont know the first thing about how to successfully pirate anything more than an MP3, and even that is a stretch.

 

Piracy is more of a 'show' than it is a problem.  Piracy is used as a scape goat by every industry as an excuse for a failed or failing business model.  Instead of embracing the talent that is available world wide,  theyd rather fight it, and lose money.  Just look at the RIAA.

Excellent post! This has been Microsofts MO for a while. They want to can the PC gaming experience so any dummy can successfully use it without fail. In some respects that's not a bad thing like with hardware requirements and a basic base for which users will be able to tell if they can play a game. But it goes against the very nature of the PC. As does GFWL and in it's present form is more restrictive than helpful and looks to be there just to control. In other words it's broken and doesn't make me want to buy a game because it's a GFWL title. It does the opposite in fact..

 

I agree too that the GTA IV engine is amazing. Something that took me by surprise was I went to load up GTA SA yesterday and when I started a new game I was somewhat disgusted at the way the game looked. Then it hit me. I thought yeah this game is 3-4 years old but it was developed using the DirectX 9.0c API just as both GTA SA and GTA VC (DX 9.0). I was just blown away at what a progression the series has made. Looking at the differences between San Andreas and Vice City is great. But the difference from SA to IV is nothing short of amazing to me.

[johnlee]

Heh. You reap what you sow. Rockstar planted rotten seeds; they've gotten a bad, bad harvest.

As they say in computing, garbage in -> garbage out

[Ducky is King]

I dont think GTA 4 supports D10

[johnlee]

I dont think GTA 4 supports D10

Remember NaturalMotion Euphoria is 3rd party plugin, and even the generation of trees in the game are outsourced to 3rd party tools...

Take that and Euphoria out of the equation and the Crytek engine puts RAGE to shame I tell you, to utter and literal shame

[reeven]

Do not tak about Alone in the Dark 5, the bad control, etc, GTAIV and Alone in the Dark are awsome, i love both game.

[x8681150]

sigh

[x8681150]

poor custumer support ,,what they dont care about pc gamers? well here they go,, http://news.spong.com/article/16806/Take_T...ppy_Xmas?cb=559 23 Dec 2008

RSS News Feed JavaScript News Gadget Google GadgetTake Two and the Unhappy Xmas

Not so much ho ho ho as How? How How?

 

Here's a thing. If Take-Two Interactive chairman, Strauss Zelnick's statement that 'being slightly down is the new up' is to be believed as, then his company is incredibly up.

 

Back in February 2008, Zelnick's company spurned a $26 per share bid from Electronic Arts. EA wanted to get hold of Rockstar and GTA (although it actually denied that it wanted the former). Following much too and some fro, the bid was dropped to $25.74 before dropping out of the war following GTA IV's release.

 

Now, here we are near Xmas and what goodies is Take-Two bringing to its stockholders? Well, it's signed up Rockstar more closley, which should be good news. It's just not good enough for the markets. Before we break out yesterday's closing NASDAQ figure though, let's have a quick look at Xmases past:

 

22 Dec 2004 = $21.94

22 Dec 2005 = $17.77

22 Dec 2006 = $18.47

24 Dec 2007 = $18.71

 

As of close of trading on 22 December this year... $7.82. Ouch. Still, unlike EA, it hasn't had to cut 1,000 staff members. Also, last year on December 21st, EA closed at $58.93. This year? $16.38.

 

As they say, stocks can go down as well as up.

[noVa]

No if we constantly get quick rushed ports from the console which will not maximize the hardware capability we have.

You're wrong.

 

The PC version of GTA IV is NOT a port, the game was created on a PC so it's not a port. The only thing that is stopping GTA IV on PC from being a great game for everyone is the Games for Windows Live title. It's got awful scripting.

 

 

Trust me I know these things.

Oh, kindly do impart thy hallowed knowledge... How, exactly, should you "know these things"?

 

 

 

 

/this could be fun.

it quite simply has to be a port to be honest,

 

Xbox 360 and playstation 3 both make use of IBM processors which are purely RISC based processors and thus would of been coded and optimized for a RISC based architecture,

 

Modern intel chips and im assuming AMD use CISC based processors with elements of RISC and therefore would deal with it in a completely different way and would have to be optimized in a different way.

 

 

[x8681150]

i have pireted games all my life and only a few a had bought,battlefield2 ,left 4 dead world of warcraft etc ...,and all the great multiplayer games..including this one,i tell you it has an enourmous potential of being the greatest multiplayer game of all time but because of this lousy company were left with a piece of what it could had been ,,,30 days latter no 2nd patch,,,i think they just not care ,with so many complaints i think its been onough time to fix them andd just looking at how many people are playing online its just crap!!!pirates only buy good multiplayer games because if you pirate them you would never be able to play it online 100%,,,they(rockstar) just mist out on this one ,,remember single player games you could finish them in 3 or 4 days but good multiplayer games are a keeper ,,,its ashame this one has so many bugs its not worth to have inlegal or retail,,,i bought this one because the multiplayer,,,ask any pirate and he will tell you the only games he would buy are multiplayer (we test before we buy) ,,,rockstar dont care about us no wonder their sales suck,,,i will never trust this company again,,,remember we pirates have played every game out there and we know whats good or not ,,,we wont waste our hardrives for crappy games ,,we erase them if theyre crap!!!!i hope some other company that cares more would make something like this that would play right

[M_Nation]

i have pireted games all my life and only a few a had bought,battlefield2 ,left 4 dead world of warcraft etc ...,and all the great multiplayer games..including this one,i tell you it has an enourmous potential of being the greatest multiplayer game of all time but because of this lousy company were left with a piece of what it could had been ,,,30 days latter no 2nd patch,,,i think they just not care ,with so many complaints i think its been onough time to fix them andd just looking at how many people are playing online its just crap!!!pirates only buy good multiplayer games because if you pirate them you would never be able to play it online 100%,,,they(rockstar) just mist out on this one ,,remember single player games you could finish them in 3 or 4 days but good multiplayer games are a keeper ,,,its ashame this one has so many bugs its not worth to have inlegal or retail,,,i bought this one because the multiplayer,,,ask any pirate and he will tell you the only games he would buy are multiplayer (we test before we buy) ,,,rockstar dont care about us no wonder their sales suck,,,i will never trust this company again,,,remember we pirates have played every game out there and we know whats good or not ,,,we wont waste our hardrives for crappy games ,,we erase them if theyre crap!!!!i hope some other company that cares more would make something like this that would play right

Second

[JeddyH]

wtf is with the ,,,,,,,,,

its either .... or just one ,

[noVa]

i have pireted games all my life and only a few a had bought,battlefield2 ,left 4 dead world of warcraft etc ...,and all the great multiplayer games..including this one,i tell you it has an enourmous potential of being the greatest multiplayer game of all time but because of this lousy company were left with a piece of what it could had been ,,,30 days latter no 2nd patch,,,i think they just not care ,with so many complaints i think its been onough time to fix them andd just looking at how many people are playing online its just crap!!!pirates only buy good multiplayer games because if you pirate them you would never be able to play it online 100%,,,they(rockstar) just mist out on this one ,,remember single player games you could finish them in 3 or 4 days but good multiplayer games are a keeper ,,,its ashame this one has so many bugs its not worth to have inlegal or retail,,,i bought this one because the multiplayer,,,ask any pirate and he will tell you the only games he would buy are multiplayer (we test before we buy) ,,,rockstar dont care about us no wonder their sales suck,,,i will never trust this company again,,,remember we pirates have played every game out there and we know whats good or not ,,,we wont waste our hardrives for crappy games ,,we erase them if theyre crap!!!!i hope some other company that cares more would make something like this that would play right

if you did buy bf2 then you would know how long it took them to release patches for it

 

give them some time i'd rather them take a few months and release a patch that actually goes some distance to fixing the problems than rush it and get it wrong again.

[x8681150]

bf2 never had problems like this...i had payed them all and only a few stand out in the pc multiplayer field,, mainly only the best sellers what this one will never be ,,by the way i still play it every day for the past 3 years just check how many servers they have compared to this

Edited December 27, 2008 by x8681150

[noVa]

bf2 never had problems like this...i had payed them all and only a few stand out in the pc multiplayer field,, mainly only the best sellers what this one will never be ,,by the way i still play it every day for the past 3 years just check how many servers they have compared to this

bf2 had many many horrible problems with it including being incredibly laggy which were never fixed in the time i was playing it.

 

lynching a company becuase they havn't corrected every single bug in a game that containts 13 gb worth of stuff within 30 days of actually releasing it is beyond idiotic.

 

i mean look at ms they never fixed any of their operating systems and yet everyone still uses them!

 

stop throwing your toys out of your pram its £30 quid it's not like it has crashed your entire pc and destroyed an entire years worth of work for which you were going to get paid for.

 

it will be patched in due time.

[CharmingCharlie]

Well the poll on this very board pretty much shows that the "problems" the naysayers keep harping on about are not nearly as wide spread as they would have us believe :-

 

Yes, it's the best game that has ever came out for pc!! [ 32 ] [46.38%]

Yes, it's really good but there are much better games. [ 18 ] [26.09%]

No, it's complete crap. [ 19 ] [27.54%]

 

forum link

 

That says to me nearly 73% are perfectly happy with GTA 4 on the PC or to put it another way 3 out of 4 people are quite content with the way the PC version behaves. Now if that isn't good enough what about this :-

 

Which id The BEST Console OVERALL to play IV on?

PC [ 136 ] [42.90%]

XBOX[ 115 ] [36.28%]

PS3 [ 66 ] [20.82%]

 

forum source

 

Despite all the naysayers preaching doom and gloom about how the PC version is completely broken/next to useless/blah blah the PC verstion still comes top out of the three formats the game is available on. I think it is just a case that some people have an axe to grind with Rockstar and they will keep grinding it till they have done their damndest to kill off GTA on the PC. I imagine once they kill the franchise off on the PC the same people will then re-register and start bitching that there is no GTA on the PC anymore.

[nick18]

Well the poll on this very board pretty much shows that the "problems" the naysayers keep harping on about are not nearly as wide spread as they would have us believe :-

 

Yes, it's the best game that has ever came out for pc!! [ 32 ] [46.38%]

Yes, it's really good but there are much better games. [ 18 ] [26.09%]

No, it's complete crap. [ 19 ] [27.54%]

 

forum link

 

That says to me nearly 73% are perfectly happy with GTA 4 on the PC or to put it another way 3 out of 4 people are quite content with the way the PC version behaves. Now if that isn't good enough what about this :-

 

Which id The BEST Console OVERALL to play IV on?

PC [ 136 ] [42.90%]

XBOX[ 115 ] [36.28%]

PS3 [ 66 ] [20.82%]

 

forum source

 

Despite all the naysayers preaching doom and gloom about how the PC version is completely broken/next to useless/blah blah the PC verstion still comes top out of the three formats the game is available on. I think it is just a case that some people have an axe to grind with Rockstar and they will keep grinding it till they have done their damndest to kill off GTA on the PC. I imagine once they kill the franchise off on the PC the same people will then re-register and start bitching that there is no GTA on the PC anymore.

Because it was a forced poll, You can either say the game is complete and utter crap which no one thinks, OR you have to say that you like it and nothing is wrong, Now maybe if they put a option that says maybe, I love the game but they f'd it up and gave us a crappy port, Than maybe the poll would be allot different don't jump the gun just yet.

[noVa]

to be fair though that poll doesn't take into account people who don't notice the problems, i know a lot of people who would ignore a lot of the stuff that annoys me in the game, im used to a lot higher and smoother framerates and the pop ins on my game aren't major.

 

there still problems but im thinking the average person or demographic is probaby to young or too dumb to notice, and the 1 out of the 4 is one of the people who does have major problems or just used to smoother/higher frame rates in games.

 

i do agree though it has been blown completely out of proportion but as with all rockstar games it isn't coded very well, but again this was obvious to me in the console versions as well.

 

 

//edit : just looked at the poll numbers, you really can't take those numbers as fact tbh the numbers and margins involved are to small to guage anything.

 

those numbers are worse than those beauty product numbers lol

 

78% of women agree their pubes look curlier with this new pube shampoo!

(40 women polled)

 

silly.

Edited December 27, 2008 by noVa