gta iv pc poor sales

[ZaCkOX]

SUp,

 

Charlie is right, people here whine to much. I blame parenting. If I whined I just a smack. SUck it up people, just because something doesn't work doesn't mean you start acting 3 and sling curse words around, or typing all caps. A lot of people here should be ashamed of themselves. I had a hell of a time getting this game to run, but eventually it did. I wasn't on the forums whining a carrying on, threatening silly lawsuits, or saying how R* is the worse company ever. For example I own a 2007 Honda Civic SiR, got it in January. I have now had 2 transmissions replaced, 2 clutches, my exhaust leaks in 3 places from cracking, the windshield wiper motor dies a week again, and just yesterday she spun a cam. So here I am wondering as I head to the dealership, again, in my 1987 f-150 watching the odometer roll past 350,000 miles why the hell I bought it. The one thing I do not do is walk into the dealership and start causing a fuss. People here either need to grow up, or learn some manners.

 

Skape

 

P.S. I think I am ditching the SiR, I just need to find something fun to replace it with.

Don't be an idiot and get a car that works. Everyone has the right to bitch and complain. They paid for a game that doesn't work and some of us can't get our money back. So your idiot if you say otherwise, dumbass.

[ZaCkOX]

I am curious about something.

We all know R*North has put out fairly good quality ports in the past. Namely 3, VC and SA. Now R*Toronto is handed the wheel, and puts out a sloppy 4.

 

I wonder, is R*North backing them up or do you think R*Toronto is in deep poopies?

Did R*North supply them with the codes and Toronto messed them up, or did R*North hand them codes that couldnt be worked out properly?

 

Id like to know the "behind the scenes" of Rockstar North.

There's not enough money to made in PC gaming (Compared to their 360/PS3 releases).

So they probably don't even care enough about the PC port to want it done properly.

 

They gave it to Toronto so they could start working on GTA IV: Vice City.

The quality of the port (also known as "standards") wasn't a concern.

 

Simple as that.

Actually they gave it to Toronto because they are working on the Xbox 360 downloadable content, not GTA IV: Vice city

Yea I guess ethics doesn't apply when money is the main issue.

[TheHitm4N]

 

do we mere serfs have your omnipotent powerful permission to perhaps query the justice in all this?

 

Awaiting your highly considered response oh mighty master.

 

Failed..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Miserably..

Edited December 23, 2008 by TheHitm4N

[TheHitm4N]

Zackox, you can say that again! As they say, money makes the world go around..

[LSD T]

do we mere serfs have your omnipotent powerful permission to perhaps query the justice in all this?

 

Awaiting your highly considered response oh mighty master.

 

Failed..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Miserably..

Failed?

 

That you failed to come back with anything that resembles an intelligent response?

 

No problem you can't be expected to be amusing, witty or capable of understanding simple English, I take back the request for permission, we'll crack on without our deity's approval.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My new Sig

SHUT THE f*ckZ UP YOUR PCS ARE sh*t AND ITS NOT SUPAROCKSTARS FAULT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND HOW TO MAINTAIN YOUZE SYZTEMSZZ AND ALL DAT YEAH Et Cetera

[TheHitm4N]

 

That you failed to come back with anything that resembles an intelligent response?

 

No problem you can't be expected to be amusing, witty or capable of understanding simple English, I take back the request for permission, we'll crack on without our deity's approval.

 

You enjoy making a fool of yourself LSD T?

[LSD T]

 

You enjoy making a fool of yourself LSD T?

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Again confusion.

 

Aside from the fact you edited yourself out meaning nothing more than deviation, nothing in your subsequent posts have suggested anything to the order of failure or indeed your greatness.

 

Oh well, my shift is soon over, will leave you to revel in your self-assured greatness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[TheHitm4N]

My point is if you fail to add anything useful to the discussion why contribute with your terribly slack sarcasm?

 

How about we talk about the topic in question rather than read your rubbish? Or am i gonna get another reply with more of your mind-numbing sarcasm?

Edited December 24, 2008 by TheHitm4N

[x8681150]

i could deal with the poor fps but what gets me mad is the multiplayer.there is not too many people playing and if you try to play any game ,it starts to lag like crazy an then you get disconected with some mesage saying you been disconected because your computer is too slow,,,i usually pirate games but this one i bought because i wanted to play it multiplayer and this sucks,,legal or not the game is a piece of [email protected]#p!!!! i have a quad,4gigs,nvidiagts 8800 620mb overcloacked,done all the tricks in this forum but im done with this s[email protected]#t!!!im puting this crap aside and look for something better i hope rockstar burn in hell

Edited December 24, 2008 by x8681150

[Gutslab]

[nicotin3]

i could deal with the poor fps but what gets me mad is the multiplayer.there is not too many people playing and if you try to play any game ,it starts to lag like crazy an then you get disconected with some mesage saying you been disconected because your computer is too slow,,,i usually pirate games but this one i bought because i wanted to play it multiplayer and this sucks,,legal or not the game is a piece of [email protected]#p!!!! i have a quad,4gigs,nvidiagts 8800 620mb overcloacked,done all the tricks in this forum but im done with this [email protected]#t!!!im puting this crap aside and look for something better i hope rockstar burn in hell

It must be a bug, my system is less "powerfull" than yours and i never got that 'running too slow' error, but i've only played unranked free roam so far.

I can play for hours and hours and its alot of fun, hang in there and hope for a fix or a patch, its worth it .

I dont use any tweaks or comand lines or anything, i just disabled the movie recording thing.

[x8681150]

thanks man ,,but i have restarted my computer many times thinking that would fix it and it does it every time ,i must have the worst luck

[Vasil]

Don't no wether any1 else posted this link but thought it would be useful info for some people

 

http://www.forbes.com/markets/2008/12/18/t...8markets15.html

 

Just latest news on GTA IV sales...take two reports loses!!!! not really good news for the future of GTA if EA has anything with this

They got what they gave imho ... but it´s gonna be piracy´s fault for sure.

[thales100]

thanks man ,,but i have restarted my computer many times thinking that would fix it and it does it every time ,i must have the worst luck

Dont know if this can help you, but i use the pagefile (much smaller than windows would set) in a secondary fast HD, and reading some issue threads here and in other forums, i tried to simulate having the pagefile with the size windows recommends and in the same HD i have both Vista and GTA 4 installed - guess what, i had crashes, occasional stuttering and lower performance.

If you have the pagefile in the same HD that GTA 4 is installed, and considering you have 4 gb of RAM, you could try to set the pagefile to a secondary HD if you have one (first set to "no pagefile" and reboot, then choose to create the pagefile in the secondary HD), and only 512 mb or 1 gb as minimum and maximum size.

[Fiks1337]

Uh

Street Mix

 

People who bought the game are having just about as many issues as the pirates. if not more.

[x8681150]

great!! any tips on how to do that?thanks by the way

[rockstarsuck]

QUOTE OF QUOTES nope it was because of your lowend crap of a pc you been trying to run it on, and then spread lies about a game that never needed a patch you moron.

 

This is actually more entertaining than playing GTA4 would be. I just love reading gaming threads when something has gone tits up like GTA4 has and reading the posts made by people who go rushing to the defence of their poor poor innocent little games producer.

Why are their always so many lame people with their tongue stuck down the back of the games companies trousers ? Just because the game "happens" to be running perfectly fine on your system, obviously that must mean that everyone else is full of crap. I mean, what else could it be...........

The game was obviously NOT tested on enough variant system configurations which is why some people with high end systems can run it problem free and some cant.

Perhaps you should think about a carrier with Rockstar. You certainly fit the profile. Something along the lines of Rockstars Public Relations perhaps.............

 

 

[thales100]

great!! any tips on how to do that?thanks by the way

Go Control Panel > System > Advanced System Settings > Advanced > Settings under Performance > Advanced tab.

Untick the automatic manage paging file size for all drives, then select no paging, apply or ok and reboot your system.

Then boot back into windows, the same "advanced" tab again, select the secondary HD (im considering youll use two HDs with similar speeds) you have, select "custom size" and set both initial / minimum and maximum sizes of paging file to 512 mb or 1 gb, apply and thats it.

Btw if you have any problem to boot after you disable the pagefile, enter windows in safe mode.

[rockstarsuck]

Uh

Street Mix

 

People who bought the game are having just about as many issues as the pirates. if not more.

Oh I would say more, for one thing they still have 30 buck in their wallets where as the rest of us paid for the problems. Oh the irony..............

Id still advise as many people as pos to take GTA 4 back to the shops asap and get an exchange for something else until its fixed. In the UK an item sold retail has to be fit for the purpose it was intended for. Gamestation have an exchange policy in place for at least 14 days i think, thats what I did and I bought Tomb Raider Underworld instead, works fine ,enjoying thoroughly and in the meantime I can sit back reading peoples posts on here, comfortable in the fact that RS aint fanning themselves with my money until its worth it, in other words, I managed to dodge a bullet. Because as I have already said in another thread, what usually happens to people is they buy the game at full price, it takes the company 6 months or more to finally get it patched properly, by which time the game is on sale at half the price new and even cheaper 2nd hand, which means you could have saved yourselves a fortune by getting a refund now and buying it later when fixed. It sends a message back to people like RS not to release games in such a sh*tty state in the first place.

Some people are saying that this will probably be the last GTA on PC because of pirating and that is why the pc gaming community is in the state its in.........erm, have people never heard of console chipping then. Pirating is a threat to the entire gaming community not just PC gaming.

[mkey82]

 

US & UK & Canada Rockstar support.

 

All got the same response. I'll try sending one to the PR too.

Please keep us updated on what sort of official reply you get (hopefully this thread lives long enough for you to post it in here).

 

Here's my theory of what will happen from my many dealings (and attempts to deal with) Rockstar:

 

As soon as someone who is in a position to give a response reads you email, they'll go into sulk mode, and you'll never hear from them (or the entire company) again on the email address that you used.

Yeah, I would like to see the response to (if any). Please PM me if you get any news.

 

 

It's a great game with a much better storyline than the previous GTA's.

who say no?

I say no i think San Andreas has a better storyline, more action.

Me too. IV is just made for kids - missions are heavily scripted, difficulty slider has been rammed to the left (assuming easy is on the left), missions are repetitive, dates and friendships are EXTREMELY annoying. The music, on the tiher hand, is not as bad as I previously thought, but it's definitely less involving.

 

What I enjoy the most is causing ruckus around the town. Pity they didn't include some extras so it would be worth something to explore the town. I always did that in past GTAs but now I just don't feel like it.

 

 

I am curious about something.

We all know R*North has put out fairly good quality ports in the past. Namely 3, VC and SA. Now R*Toronto is handed the wheel, and puts out a sloppy 4.

 

I wonder, is R*North backing them up or do you think R*Toronto is in deep poopies?

Did R*North supply them with the codes and Toronto messed them up, or did R*North hand them codes that couldnt be worked out properly?

 

Id like to know the "behind the scenes" of Rockstar North.

I think R* North played a bigger lore i this cockup. RAGE engine runs badly on all platforms and last time I looked, R* North is directly responsible for two of those versions.

 

Since when does Nort make good ports? You all seem to have forgotten about GTA3 which wasn't the best of port when it came out. Luckily, there were two GTAs based on the same engine so they got it ironed out. Also, VC has that frame limit issue, anyone?

 

I don't understand why is so much people keen on defending R* North. I mean, look why they did, they handed the PC version to a (potentially) inexperienced gaming company that is R* Toronto. They deemed x360 DLC to be more important then the PC version. What else are they supposed to do for us to deem them responsible of what is going on?

 

They:

* lied - do I need to state some examples? System requirements stated on the box - lie, three year old machine able to run it - lie, ground up PC build - lie. All lies.

* kept silence - they kept silence for months (if we go from the console release) or even years (if we take into account the complete GTA IV campaign). Don't you remember? They refused to mention PC version, nobody even made any questions about it in any interview. This was done purposely and with malicious intent (as to force us into buying consoles).

* delayed - no comment

* mislead - system requirements and all that stuff previewers were raving about.

* influenced reviewers - this can not be proven, but the one thinking there was no foul play is plain crazy

* published a semi-finished product - no comment

* misinformed - again with that update, they purposely failed to mention "sorry guys, but this update will do squat for your performance issues, we fixed diddly"

* hot coffee - do I really need to mention this one? The way they shamelessly blamed the moding community for their own incompetence.

 

What else can they do for some of you guys to accept they are not worth of any appreciation nor support? How can you defend them? Because we might not see a next GTA? Oh my, I could save 50$ on a dumbed down game that refuses to run properly. I wouldn't want that to happen, no sir. And before some smart person tells me "go get a refund" let me remind you most people can not get their money back. Not that I would return it if I could, I still might get a brand new supercomputer for Christmas if Santa doesn't fail to deliver.

 

And of course, in the end, it will all be about piracy. Nothing to do with performance, nothing to do with delays, nothing to do with lack of programming skills and principles, nothing to do with all those people who returned the game and got their money back - it will all come down to pirates. They will once shift guilt and blame people who never intended to buy their games in the first place.

[syrdax]

I don't know but I don't have a single issue on the game. I did buy new hardware for this game and I'm not regret a bit.

This makes me wonder if the problems so many people talks about is a) pirated game, b) bad configured hardware. I could search in other forums where people talk in a more mature way about software and hardware and they don't seem to have these issues too.

When SA came out, there were also lotsa of issues, there was also the same old "the one before was better". People is never happy about new stuff. You get used to one kind of game and style and when something new comes out is s**t.

Boring missions? Annoying dates?? I don't know but dates on SA were boring, in IV at least you get some conversations, same as on missions, there's always some kind of talking around. Yeah, there are no more Ambulance or Taxi missions, so what? Those things were boring, at least Taxi missions; you still get to chase criminals with the police thingy.

There is more interactivity in this game than in previous and I like a lot this way.

Is funny how people trust the heck out of those so called reviewers from magazines or websites "from gamers to gamers", all they do is what some company ask for, do some search and you'll see what I mean. Oh, and tell me of one game which wasn't pre-hyped, there is even a word for that...

I think that the fact that most if not every company (take Blizzard out of the bunch) nowadays sells first the console thing because the big money; there's a ton of kid's parents' money to be collected. Sadly enough, for some reason, PC people has to wait a lot for the game, which is what really kills sales. Not from me tho, I love GTA games, I will love them always because always amazed me.

I'm not like most of the people who a year or so ago thought Rockstar was the best company ever and now because they have sh*tty or bad configured PC and can't run a game suddenly thinks R.star is the worst company ever...

[nicotin3]

*Blah*

You seem to be going on a R* hate spree or something... if you dont like their work what are you doing here? Wasting your time telling the world that R* sucks?

VC wasnt such a bad port, SA wasnt a bad port either, now IV has many problems but its a new engine with alot more tech into it..

 

You complainers are accomplishing absolutely nothing but turning people away from the game, wich might actually f*ck the support R* are willing to give (future patches).

I have the game, i absolutely love it (makes SA lame in comparison), i have problems and i hope R* will adress the problems and make the game better.

 

If you hate R*/IV that much and have no hopes for the future find something that you like and enjoy it, simple .

 

 

[mkey82]

*bullsh*t* *bullsh*t* *bullsh*t*

You R* lovers never cease to amaze me. I have nothing new to add, just wanted to let you know what I tough of your opinion. You know, that saying about assholes and opinions.

 

The game is still a mess, I still can't lower the setting and get better performance. Geez R*, thanks. I'm so happy. Everyone should buy your game and spend first ten hours tweaking it so they could get it *playable*. No enjoyment guaranteed.

[eagle016]

Pretty much as expected, those that didn't steal it just bitched and whined till it killed off any remaining sales and we wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

If it's just the state of the PC gaming industry then why do all those other games do so well?

 

Aren't sure? It's because the game is HORRIBLY ported to PC and played TERRIBLE for many people. That's why the game is out of the top 10, people don't want to buy a game they *might* be able to play even with a "recommended" machine.

[NMReribution]

Pretty much as expected, those that didn't steal it just bitched and whined till it killed off any remaining sales and we wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

If it's just the state of the PC gaming industry then why do all those other games do so well?

 

Aren't sure? It's because the game is HORRIBLY ported to PC and played TERRIBLE for many people. That's why the game is out of the top 10, people don't want to buy a game they *might* be able to play even with a "recommended" machine.

Agreed, CharmingCharlie you are a F****** idiot.....

[Dillyracer]

 

Pretty much as expected, those that didn't steal it just bitched and whined till it killed off any remaining sales and we wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

If it's just the state of the PC gaming industry then why do all those other games do so well?

 

Aren't sure? It's because the game is HORRIBLY ported to PC and played TERRIBLE for many people. That's why the game is out of the top 10, people don't want to buy a game they *might* be able to play even with a "recommended" machine.

Like that's the main issue, the PC version never got promoted as heavily as the console version, also it's been released months after the console version. I'm not saying there aren't any people who have problems, but blaming it on that issue alone is also rediculous.

 

 

Agreed, CharmingCharlie you are a F****** idiot.....

 

At least he has the ability to discuss like adults.

 

Damn, I thought PC-gamers were more mature than console gamers, I was wrong.

[One-time]

Agreed, CharmingCharlie you are a F****** idiot.....

Lol... Don't you know that he's a moderator? You'll get a warn shortly I guess.

[mkey82]

Damn, I thought PC-gamers were more mature than console gamers, I was wrong.

These guys are worse then meanest console fanboys.

[LolaDelRio]

 

We wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

That's so funny coming from a person who loves PC gaming.

 

PC gaming is not such a state The Sims, World of Warcarft, Crysis, Counter Strike etc. Are all doing well for PC gaming.

 

Anyway don't forget games are created on a PC, the highest quality of a game will always be on a PC, because of the constent updates on hardware.

Edited December 24, 2008 by LolaDelRio

[One-time]

 

the highest quality of a game will always be on a PC

No if we constantly get quick rushed ports from the console which will not maximize the hardware capability we have.