gta iv pc poor sales

[x8681150]

they thought they werent imune to poor game planing and lauched this crap ,,,these are the resuls:........................................................................................................ http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/56495 http://www.gamecyte.com/grand-theft-auto-4...-in-second-week http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/01/05/lit...list/#continued <a href='http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015' target='_blank'>http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p...t.jsp&ct=110015://http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/01...t.jsp&ct=110015://http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/01...t.jsp&ct=110015://http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/01...t.jsp&ct=110015/http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/01...p&ct=110015</a></a>

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Weekly PC Sales: Grand Theft Auto 4 PC Disappears; Left 4 Dead, Call of Duty Gain Ground

by Chris Faylor Dec 22, 2008 12:24pm CST tags: NPD, PC Sales, Software Sales

Sales-tracking firm NPD has issued its latest take on PC software sales at United States retailers, charting the ten best-selling games from December 7-13, 2008.

 

Following its debut at #7 last week, the PC release of Grand Theft Auto IV has dropped out of the top ten. Both Call of Duty: World at War and Left 4 Dead have moved up the chart, while Lich King, Spore, Fallout 3 and some others clung to their previous spots.

 

1. World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King / Blizzard / $39 (Average)

2. Spore / EA Maxis / $47 (Average)

3. Call Of Duty: World At War / Treyarch / $46 (Average)

4. Left 4 Dead / Valve / $43 (Average)

5. Fallout 3 / Bethesda / $43 (Average)

6. The Sims 2 Deluxe / EA Maxis / $20 (Average)

7. The Sims 2 Apartment Life Exp. Pack / EA Maxis / $17 (Average)

8. Bejewled Twist / PopCap / $17 (Average)

9. World Of Warcraft Battle Chest / Blizzard / $34 (Average)

10. The Sims 2 Mansion & Garden Stuff Exp. / EA Maxis / $18 (Avera

Edited January 12, 2009 by x8681150

[x8681150]

and the first bad reviews are here:http://news.bigdownload.com/2008/12/22/review-grand-theft-auto-iv-pc/ http://news.bigdownload.com/photos/big-dow...awards/1217592/ and read this:,, http://www.forbes.com/markets/2008/12/18/t...8markets15.html http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081217/bs_nm/...plEunYZUg0K77EF http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/12/22/ea-t...3eataketwo.html

Edited December 23, 2008 by x8681150

[xtremist5150]

and the first bad reviews are here:http://news.bigdownload.com/2008/12/22/review-grand-theft-auto-iv-pc/

Sucks....they get a decent patch or two out that improves game performance and they can turn all this badness around. Ball's in their court.

[CharmingCharlie]

Pretty much as expected, those that didn't steal it just bitched and whined till it killed off any remaining sales and we wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

[ThatsCool]

Its no wonder that so much people pirating this game...Only bugs, bad optimized and some other bad things.

If the next GTA is another game who is a bad optimized game then i will not buy it!

Edited December 22, 2008 by ThatsCool

[Jc84144]

 

those that didn't steal it just bitched and whined till it killed off any remaining sales and we wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

Why do you always blame PC gamers for the "state" PC gaming is in?

 

Well... as you're not whining about GTA 4, I suppose you stole it? Either that or not everyone who bought it is whining. Take your pick.

Edited December 22, 2008 by Jc84144

[CharmingCharlie]

Its no wonder that so much people pirating this game...Only bugs, bad optimized and some other bad things.

If the next GTA is another game who is a bad optimized game then i will not buy it!

People were stealing the game long before any of these issues were known so don't try and pull that bull. I haven't had any problems with the game myself, I will admit the game could have been better optimised but then again people with 8400gt cards shouldn't be expecting better graphics than the console and a res of 1900 x 1200 either.

[xtremist5150]

those that didn't steal it just bitched and whined till it killed off any remaining sales and we wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

Why do you always blame PC gamers for the "state" PC gaming is in?

 

Well... as you're not whining about GTA 4, I suppose you stole it? Either that or not everyone who bought it is whining. Take your pick.

You tell him, Jc! I'll bet he actually is one of the game porters from R* T*r*nt* too!

[CharmingCharlie]

Rofl so I am now a thief, Rockstar collaborator and I am secretly working for Rockstar Toronto now. The fact is I am a normal PC gamer like the rest of you guys and some of the whinging that has been done on this forum has been embarrassing. Right now I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rockstar just said "f*ck it" to the PC format and if you think that is something to celebrate then you are quite honestly the biggest moron on the planet.

[Jc84144]

 

Rofl so I am now a thief, Rockstar collaborator and I am secretly working for Rockstar Toronto now.  The fact is I am a normal PC gamer like the rest of you guys and some of the whinging that has been done on this forum has been embarrassing.  Right now I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rockstar just said "f*ck it" to the PC format and if you think that is something to celebrate then you are quite honestly the biggest moron on the planet.

I don't think you're a theif. I'm just making a point, not everyone is whining.

 

I just don't like it when people group everyone with the morons.

Edited December 22, 2008 by Jc84144

[trustingsoup]

Yeah when I spend $50 on a game and it doesn't work right I should just shut up or I am "whining" right? That attitude really ticks me off. I admit that some posts here have been way overboard but there are plenty of legitimate complaints as well.

[Sunrise Driver]

Those who stole this game play the worst version cause they have bugs with gameplay, bugs because of cracks, no multiplayer, no support, no movies upload to SC, no possible DLC.

And Live, Social Club and SecuROM aren't big problems for those who bought the game.

Edited December 22, 2008 by Street Mix

[Chroniss]

Stop blaming the people on the forums. The only people at fault here are the Rockstar Toronto team. The amount of negative feedback they receive is proportionate to the state of the game release. If they had not released it like this, it wouldn't get such a bad rep.

[LSD T]

 

Rofl so I am now a thief, Rockstar collaborator and I am secretly working for Rockstar Toronto now.  The fact is I am a normal PC gamer like the rest of you guys and some of the whinging that has been done on this forum has been embarrassing.  Right now I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rockstar just said "f*ck it" to the PC format and if you think that is something to celebrate then you are quite honestly the biggest moron on the planet.

What actually is moronic is trying to distort reality by suggesting that a QX top line Quad and 280 GTX GPU ought not to eek out anything other than a lousy 25+ FPS.

What is utterly moronic is to suggest that a sh*t, half arsed port deserves support and praise to high heavens so that they may one day make another half arsed et cetera.

 

I'll never forget my first personal computer game installation, Horace Goes Skiing and being decidedly underwhelmed, luckily i had a truly next gen title to toy with, the game being Monty Mole.

 

I played GTAIV on the PS3 and was entertained but could hardly wait for the release on the only platform to really take it up a notch, what we got was criminal theft.

In all my years of gaming never have I seen such a shoddy half arsed port.

 

Then again it was the pirates what ruined it...

 

Time for honesty for once ...would you trust R* Toronto to port over Pong, no doubt you'll state 32 FPS at 1st service dropping to 10FPS once the action really hots up is a fantastic achievement for such a technically advanced game.

 

You talk about embarrassing, yet seem completely oblivious to how your specious blind praise only serves the notion that you're not being wholly honest with yourself, if not us.

 

 

Street Mix

And Live, Social Club and SecuROM aren't big problem for those who bought the game.

It is a massive problem and absolute disgraceful imposition to have inflicted that rootkit virus sh*t on our machines to play what is essentially a poorly ported 360 game with only ever so slightly improved textures.

If anyone is killing the PC gaming industry it is greedy thieving publishers serving up overpriced and below par quality tat.

Like the music industry ate itself with their sheer greed, i.e. radioheads experiment of free downloads for a month and you can choose to pay what you want from £0.00 upwards, they made more in one month than all their previous hugely successful albums, such was the stark greed of the music industry.

Edited December 22, 2008 by LSD T

[Dcrysis02]

Rofl so I am now a thief, Rockstar collaborator and I am secretly working for Rockstar Toronto now. The fact is I am a normal PC gamer like the rest of you guys and some of the whinging that has been done on this forum has been embarrassing. Right now I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rockstar just said "f*ck it" to the PC format and if you think that is something to celebrate then you are quite honestly the biggest moron on the planet.

The way they are acting,(only 1% has trouble with the game,a barely working patch,the game itself is a huge bug/DRM fest)that says all things.By releasing a game in such a state,lying about the system requriments,and working on a patch before the game actually comes out,they not told us,but showed us a f**k it.Is Pc gaming dying because of fans(and pirates lol)whining about a good game,or because fans(and pirates)whining about an awful game?You can't really put this one on the gamers you know.Now the gamers actually have a right to whine because of all this legal crap.

[CharmingCharlie]

 

Yeah when I spend $50 on a game and it doesn't work right I should just shut up or I am "whining" right? That attitude really ticks me off. I admit that some posts here have been way overboard but there are plenty of legitimate complaints as well.

I have never said you shouldn't complain. I myself have a few gripes about the game and I have let them be known. However a vocal minority on this board do nothing BUT complain I have yet to see them say anything the least bit positive about the game.

 

They use every single opportunity to spread complete and utter bull about the performance problems and exaggerate everything, I wouldn't be surprised if I came to this board and found a topic called "GTA 4 molested my dog and left it for dead". I have no problem with people voicing their problems in a constructive and mature manner which actually HELPS. I haven't seen any of that, all I have seen is people going "C*ckstar Suckz" crap.

[Lutra78]

You can give a damn about NPD-charts. They only consider Retail sales in stores. No Downloads (I guess more than 20% of GTAIV-copies are downloaded via Steam) or online-shops like amazon.com.

 

GTAIV is in the top3 in almost every european country, so the sales aren't that bad (I really wonder how a pc gamer can be happy about bad sales of a pc game - this is schizophrenic...)

[LilPuppy]

Pretty much as expected, those that didn't steal it just bitched and whined till it killed off any remaining sales and we wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

how off base can you get....the b!tching didn't do it , the crap rush job to get out in time for christmas sales killed it which in turn produced the b!tching. Lack of communication from rockstar to stop it didn't help either

[link626]

2 things will come of this:

 

either Cockstar won't make games for pc anymore

 

or, they test the sh*t out of the next game before release.

 

#1 is more likely.

 

 

 

and GTA4 pc sales are poor because people don't want to buy this sh*t twice if they have it on console already.

 

console version sold over 5 million.

[Corgi]

Pretty much as expected, those that didn't steal it just bitched and whined till it killed off any remaining sales and we wonder why the PC gaming industry is in such a state.

The whining and bitching was legitimate, in my opinion.

[SkapeGote]

SUp,

 

Charlie is right, people here whine to much. I blame parenting. If I whined I just a smack. SUck it up people, just because something doesn't work doesn't mean you start acting 3 and sling curse words around, or typing all caps. A lot of people here should be ashamed of themselves. I had a hell of a time getting this game to run, but eventually it did. I wasn't on the forums whining a carrying on, threatening silly lawsuits, or saying how R* is the worse company ever. For example I own a 2007 Honda Civic SiR, got it in January. I have now had 2 transmissions replaced, 2 clutches, my exhaust leaks in 3 places from cracking, the windshield wiper motor dies a week again, and just yesterday she spun a cam. So here I am wondering as I head to the dealership, again, in my 1987 f-150 watching the odometer roll past 350,000 miles why the hell I bought it. The one thing I do not do is walk into the dealership and start causing a fuss. People here either need to grow up, or learn some manners.

 

Skape

 

P.S. I think I am ditching the SiR, I just need to find something fun to replace it with.

 

 

[hostile666]

cmon, everyone knows that charmingcharlie sucks r* cock.

gta4 got bad reviews because its a sh*tty port, thats all.

[mortuus]

Lol it didnt get any bad reviews before it all spread how bad this game is, like Ign.com they didnt say sh*t really how poor it runs to them it sounded like no big deal..

[DCTF]

Like the music industry ate itself with their sheer greed, i.e. radioheads experiment of free downloads for a month and you can choose to pay what you want from £0.00 upwards, they made more in one month than all their previous hugely successful albums, such was the stark greed of the music industry.

Off topic: that's not true, and they'll never do that again.

 

Their PR misrepresented what happened, and it was one of a number of instances of financially secure musicians doing something attention-grabbing that hurt the prospects of other musicians immeasurably. It's easy to imagine that the only opponents of free music must be big industry bosses, but it's nowhere near that simple.

[Nugget9]

cmon, everyone knows that charmingcharlie sucks r* cock.

 

Hmm, any need for that?

[Aquaphonic]

Re: game sales

 

Windows Live -ve

DRM -ve

Bugs/issues -ve

High sys requirements -ve

Truly amazing game buried underneath +ve

 

 

and the first bad reviews are here:http://news.bigdownload.com/2008/12/22/review-grand-theft-auto-iv-pc/    

I know that is a bad review (rates the game poorly) but in a way it is actually a good review, since it addresses the issues with the release.

 

I like this part the best:

 

...frame rates would barely get above 30 frames a minute (sic) We played the game on a PC with an Intel Core 2 Extreme Q6800 CPU with 4 gigs of RAM and a Nvidia GeForce 8800 Ultra graphics card. All of those specs are above the so-called recommended hardware needed for the game.

 

[johnlee]

justice has been served at last

[ArecBalrin]

cmon, everyone knows that charmingcharlie sucks r* cock.

 

Hmm, any need for that?

Probably not, but is it really unexpected considering the equally if not more so venomous response critics have recieved on this forum regardless of wether their posts can accurately be called whining or not?

 

Perhaps that was the fanboys intention: a flame-war distracts from the massive problems with the game, so why not repeatedly try and start one?

 

Can anyone here honestly say there was any way in which a complaint could be made on this forum and not recieve the extraordinary faux outrage from fanboys who appear to have free-reign to abuse?

[LSD T]

 

...frame rates would barely get above 30 frames a minute (sic) We played the game on a PC with an Intel Core 2 Extreme Q6800 CPU with 4 gigs of RAM and a Nvidia GeForce 8800 Ultra graphics card. All of those specs are above the so-called recommended hardware needed for the game.

 

That's clearly a lie, Charlie says that is blatantly a lie, so it is, all now desist from criticising the game you horrid pirates with below spec PCs and poorly maintained systems etc ad nauseum.

Trouble is defending the indefensible always makes one look a c*nt to the ill disciplined riff raff that can see through this charade.

 

BTW the point about Radiohead was not off topic, it was to counteract the rather witless anti-piracy assertion bollocks that sh*t games deserved great financial reward, no matter how poor quality the product.

Great games, just like great music will sell and make a profit regardless of piracy.

From the very advent of radio airplay and tape copying, music and games have been recorded and shared for free, quality stays high, profit yield is too, start selling sh*t so comes the fall.

We just are now in a different age where we can download rather than sit by our radios finger hovering over the record button.

 

[Nillansan]

That's clearly a lie, Charlie says that is blatantly a lie, so it is, all now desist from criticising the game you horrid pirates with below spec PCs and poorly maintained systems etc ad nauseum.

 

LOL.