Ground Forces vs. Airships

[ChristopherD]

OP Updated

 

Kayla has been added. Welcome to the team!!!

 

@1ManArmy: You are welcome to play!

 

@burnin: I am hoping that you believe the ppl in here that the whole incident was a misunderstanding and a little bit of (civil) discussion could have avoided the whole fiasco in this thread the last two days.

 

@LIN93/Osmeael: I truly hope you will play again...espcially now that we are trying it as a regular TDM. SJ is right...wouldn't be the same without you!!!

 

Well, the next TWO matches are on Saturday, March 21 at 3pm EST (8pm GMT) and Sunday, March 22 at 3pm (8pm GMT). For the Saturday Match I would like to try it as a normal Team Deathmatch. In order for this to work, I believe that the Pilots should have at least 4 team members. Ideally, it should be 5 Pilots against 10 GTs (I will be filming for the whole match). The only thing different for this than a regular TDM is that we will still have 5 minutes at the beginning for arming and to give the Pilots the time to get helis.

 

NOTE: This means that Pilots CAN use health. It also means no more confusion about Pilots on the ground...if they are on the ground, SHOOT TO KILL! I think this evens things up.

 

Once we have played this match, we can decide if we want to go back to the old rules. This is also something that I would like the Pilots to agree with...

 

I truly don't care which way we play (every single round I have been in has been very fun), but I think we should at least try a normal TDM format and then decide.

 

Please, I am looking for input from everyone, so post what you think and which matches you want to participate in.

 

Also, if anyone else is interested in filming this, let me know and we can figure out a way for you to get me the footage.

 

And one final note: Please read the first post before asking Qs about the matches (a special thanks to The_Owl for being the ONLY player to follow ALL my instructions... ). I have no problem answering questions, just hate answering them when the answer is in the OP.

 

I am VERY MUCH looking forward to Saturday's match. I think it will be intense (even more so than past matches) and hope to get some very good video footage!!!

Edited March 17, 2009 by ChristopherD

[1ManArmy]

OP Updated

 

Kayla has been added. Welcome to the team!!!

 

@1ManArmy: You are welcome to play!

 

@burnin: I am hoping that you believe the ppl in here that the whole incident was a misunderstanding and a little bit of (civil) discussion could have avoided the whole fiasco in this thread the last two days.

 

@LIN93/Osmeael: I truly hope you will play again...espcially now that we are trying it as a regular TDM. SJ is right...wouldn't be the same without you!!!

 

Well, the next TWO matches are on Saturday, March 21 at 3pm EST (8pm GMT) and Sunday, March 22 at 3pm (8pm GMT). For the Saturday Match I would like to try it as a normal Team Deathmatch. In order for this to work, I believe that the Pilots should have at least 4 team members. Ideally, it should be 5 Pilots against 10 GTs (I will be filming for the whole match). The only thing different for this than a regular TDM is that we will still have 5 minutes at the beginning for arming and to give the Pilots the time to get helis.

 

NOTE: This means that Pilots CAN use health. It also means no more confusion about Pilots on the ground...if they are on the ground, SHOOT TO KILL! I think this evens things up.

 

Once we have played this match, we can decide if we want to go back to the old rules. This is also something that I would like the Pilots to agree with...

 

I truly don't care which way we play (every single round I have been in has been very fun), but I think we should at least try a normal TDM format and then decide.

 

Please, I am looking for input from everyone, so post what you think and which matches you want to participate in.

 

Also, if anyone else is interested in filming this, let me know and we can figure out a way for you to get me the footage.

 

And one final note: Please read the first post before asking Qs about the matches (a special thanks to The_Owl for being the ONLY player to follow ALL my instructions... ). I have no problem answering questions, just hate answering them when the answer is in the OP.

 

I am VERY MUCH looking forward to Saturday's match. I think it will be intense (even more so than past matches) and hope to get some very good video footage!!!

Sounds awesome Chris, i'm not sure if i'm going out for Saturday, but just count me in. I'll try my best to make it. In my opinion, even though it's meant to test just the pilot skills against the ground forces, I think this way is alot better and less complicated. Looking forward to it.

[Bates_GTA]

Yeah Chris, i totally agree.

 

Aslong as the concept still stands of GROUND vs HELICOPTERS and no on the ground fighting, unless the Heli has crashed, i dont see why they shouldnt be shot on the ground.

 

I'm in for saturday Chris.

[stev150]

yep i can make saturday

[Juice By Kayla Marie]

Yes Sammy, I'm going to play! They may be good.. But not goo enough. Sorry for deleting you! I go through my list and delete everyone i never played with or everyone in general once in a while. I didn't bother reading the front page.. to much! C/P the basics? & what time Saturday?

[sammyman88]

Yehh cool Kayla. Looking forward to it. If I play though.

 

Hold on ChristopherD.

 

If helis are allowed to get health, its way to unfair. Just think about it. If we smoke them in the air making there chopper almost destroyed, they easily go get health. They just fly way its way to unfair. Also if pilots are on the ground and ground forces are aloud to shoot then no way. Way to unfair. If they respawn and where aloud to kill them, it just makes this game unfair even more and it would not feel like we are playing this event, If they crash there heli and survive then we can shoot them, but thats it.

 

And I dunno about saturday. Because its 8pm GMT. If you made it 9pm GMT then I can make it.

 

[1ManArmy]

 

Yehh cool Kayla. Looking forward to it. If I play though.

 

Hold on ChristopherD.

 

If helis are allowed to get health, its way to unfair. Just think about it. If we smoke them in the air making there chopper almost destroyed, they easily go get health. They just fly way its way to unfair. Also if pilots are on the ground and ground forces are aloud to shoot then no way. Way to unfair. If they respawn and where aloud to kill them, it just makes this game unfair even more and it would not feel like we are playing this event, If they crash there heli and survive then we can shoot them, but thats it.

 

And I dunno about saturday. Because its 8pm GMT. If you made it 9pm GMT then I can make it.

Well it's a test of skills if you can fly fast. If we play in the city getting the health pack is harder than you think. I would rather go to helitours and take the health pack there if we were in Algonguin. Just give it a try, they can shoot us already. To be honest, the other mode was boring as hell and it was really quite hard for pilots. The choppers were so far and sooner or later you guys will make our chopper smoke. And trust me, it's quite easy to do that when you all focus on one heli like what you guys did to me. So give it a go Chris, don't listen to this guy, he's drunk from celebrating St. Patrick's Day.

[mylungsareburnin01]

if we allow them to get health then we will get destroyed again. They cannot be beaten if they are in the sky doing what they want and we are on the ground unless we blow the choppers up which defeats the purpose. killing them on the ground makes this a regular dm not a ground/air assault so now the name of the thread should be changed.

 

Lets make one thing clear, they cant be beat without certain rules. We die in 2 or 3 chopper bullets, it takes hundreds of bullets to get a chopper to start smoking at which point they leave and come back with full health. They are out of range of all guns except sniper ( no chance ) or assault rifles ( best imho for this ).

 

If they wanna do it again, they have to make concessions.

[sammyman88]

 

Yehh cool Kayla. Looking forward to it. If I play though.

 

Hold on ChristopherD.

 

If helis are allowed to get health, its way to unfair. Just think about it. If we smoke them in the air making there chopper almost destroyed, they easily go get health. They just fly way its way to unfair. Also if pilots are on the ground and ground forces are aloud to shoot then no way. Way to unfair. If they respawn and where aloud to kill them, it just makes this game unfair even more and it would not feel like we are playing this event, If they crash there heli and survive then we can shoot them, but thats it.

 

And I dunno about saturday. Because its 8pm GMT. If you made it 9pm GMT then I can make it.

Well it's a test of skills if you can fly fast. If we play in the city getting the health pack is harder than you think. I would rather go to helitours and take the health pack there if we were in Algonguin. Just give it a try, they can shoot us already. To be honest, the other mode was boring as hell and it was really quite hard for pilots. The choppers were so far and sooner or later you guys will make our chopper smoke. And trust me, it's quite easy to do that when you all focus on one heli like what you guys did to me. So give it a go Chris, don't listen to this guy, he's drunk from celebrating St. Patrick's Day.

Its just easier for the pilots. We will get owned as I hear we have been getting destroyed by the pilots because they can get health.

 

Seriously you guys fly in the air with guns shoot at us at ranges its hard for us to get. We smoke your chopper up, you go get health and you come back and it repeats this.

 

No health for pilots, its fair, come on.

[GTAIVMAC]

What are you guys tryin to prove? In a regular FM pilots would go for health, and you cannot message them and demand that they dont take a healthpack.

If you make rules like that you´ll never be able to say that you won against the pilots.

[Double_Deagle]

It's not about that actually. Its more about giving the pilots some more competition than just owning ground troops in FMs or DMs over and over again.

 

I'd be up for a regular DM aswell!

 

But I have a suggestion to make:

What about if we set the rule that neither the ground troops nor the pilots are allowed to get health or armour. That would even the things up on the healthpack side. Noone could use the time pilots spare to get new helis to get his health filled up and the pilots were more likely to be shot inside the chopper even if they get a new one. So new helis are fine, but the person inside would keep its health level.

 

What you think about that Chris?

[sammyman88]

Rob. If a pilot shoots you with there guns your health goes down easy, these pilots are good like Osmaeel. If you shoot at a chopper it will take alot of bullets to smoke it.

[Double_Deagle]

Most kills last week we had from shooting the pilots inside the cabin! So when they can get health whenever they get a new chopper, its almost impossible to do! But when they have to get in the next fight red blinking health, the next hit through the windshield would kill them. That was what I tried to bring up!

[1ManArmy]

Most kills last week we had from shooting the pilots inside the cabin! So when they can get health whenever they get a new chopper, its almost impossible to do! But when they have to get in the next fight red blinking health, the next hit through the windshield would kill them. That was what I tried to bring up!

True, this is why we should try the normal tdm way first.

[Juice By Kayla Marie]

Yehh cool Kayla. Looking forward to it. If I play though.

 

Hold on ChristopherD.

 

If helis are allowed to get health, its way to unfair. Just think about it. If we smoke them in the air making there chopper almost destroyed, they easily go get health. They just fly way its way to unfair. Also if pilots are on the ground and ground forces are aloud to shoot then no way. Way to unfair. If they respawn and where aloud to kill them, it just makes this game unfair even more and it would not feel like we are playing this event, If they crash there heli and survive then we can shoot them, but thats it.

 

And I dunno about saturday. Because its 8pm GMT. If you made it 9pm GMT then I can make it.

I can't make 8 GMT either.. I have class until 9:30 GMT

[J4ADM]

Kayla I thought you were a dude. Apologies.

 

I'm still in for whenever this is...

[sammyman88]

Yehh cool Kayla. Looking forward to it. If I play though.

 

Hold on ChristopherD.

 

If helis are allowed to get health, its way to unfair. Just think about it. If we smoke them in the air making there chopper almost destroyed, they easily go get health. They just fly way its way to unfair. Also if pilots are on the ground and ground forces are aloud to shoot then no way. Way to unfair. If they respawn and where aloud to kill them, it just makes this game unfair even more and it would not feel like we are playing this event, If they crash there heli and survive then we can shoot them, but thats it.

 

And I dunno about saturday. Because its 8pm GMT. If you made it 9pm GMT then I can make it.

I can't make 8 GMT either.. I have class until 9:30 GMT

Ok.

 

So ChristopherD what do you say, change the time to 9:30pm GMT or 9:45pm GMT.

[jerry25]

I am in for this next one. Oh and sorry for missing the last one.

[ChristopherD]

I got no problem with changing time to 5pm EST (10pm GMT). its cool with me.

 

I will update the OP tonight (or tomorrow morning) and give everyone the final decision on the match format.

 

am very busy, so thanks for the patience.

[notoriousash]

8pm saturday sounds good to me

 

I'll hopefully actually be able to make it this time *crosses fingers*

[sammyman88]

Ok cool so its now 10pm GMT.

[explicitmo]

Same procedure for me like last weekend, since I'm never sure whether or not I can make it on a weekend. If you see me online, invite me.

[ChristopherD]

OP Updated.

 

The Match tomorrow (Sat. March 21) is at 5pm EST (10pm GMT). I have not heard from any of the Pilots accept 1Man. I am hoping to get with Osmaeel tonight on PSN, but he was truly pissed about the last match, so really don't know whether he will be participating. I will also try and get with CHARGER and Jordy. Assuming we get more Pilots, the first round will be a normal Team Deathmatch. If it turns into a ground war (like many have expressed concerns about) then we will try it again but with the rule that NO ONE can get health or armour. If THAT doesn't work, then we will go back to the original rules. And, if THAT doesn't work, then I see NO WAY to satisfy everyone, and tbo, will probably give up on the whole idea. Not trying to be a cry-baby, but if ppl are not having fun, then all this work is not worth it.

 

Also, if we play with only the ppl that have so far confirmed, I believe that it will be an extremely unfair fight. No offense to 1Man (he has made clear that he is, while very good, still working on his skills), but him against some of the best Ground Forces in the game (imho)...well, its a serious mismatch and even if we beat him, could hardly call it a win.

 

I would also like to make a general apology to everyone who has participated in these matches for letting things get out of hand and allowing them get to a point where ppl are pissed. This was NEVER meant to be anything but fun, for the GTs AND the Pilots.

Edited March 20, 2009 by ChristopherD

[dj.arsonizt]

wuts good peeps

Im interested in the match as a pilot

im not an elite pilot but im pretty good with the heli miniguns

I understand the rules

Im in if all who its in the hands of approves it

count me in

 

PSN ID: PAIN_IN_DA_ASS

[ChristopherD]

U R IN like FLYN!

 

Look forward to seeing you shot down...lol

[dj.arsonizt]

lol haha look forward to seeing you run around in circles

[1ManArmy]

Hey Christopher, sorry but I don't know if I can make it. I'll try though, if i'm not online just go on without me. So sorry guys...

Edited March 20, 2009 by 1ManArmy

[SCAR.]

Yeah I'm down for tomorrow

[osmaeel]

CHARGER sent me a msg about this, so I though i would check it out. sure count me in...as a ground force.....lol....jk. Really no need to apologize guys, its just a specfic guy on this forum. i am all in if everyone just enjoys and not take it too seriously. btw thanks chris for organizing these matches. can't type much on ps3. PS thans for the PM dont let your wife get close to the headset

[FamilyDUDE777]

It takes 15 seconds to blow when the helicopter is set on fire.That means you better light him up 15 seconds away from a reachable healthpack.

 

I still think I suck at flying.Usually when I play a different game it throws me off and I loose my experience and Its hard for me to recuperate.Im not so skilled fighting other pilots.Ive gotten 2 heli kills,a ok amount of car kills and plenty ground kills.But the fact of the matter is I just cant circle strafe-orbit.Thus I get shot or owned by collisions.I rather be In the Air then the ground.But Im only good in the airport buildings......I utterly obliterate myself.Then I switch to ground.

 

Airport=I fly

City=Im Ground

 

Chris sign me up =D.

Edited March 21, 2009 by FamilyDUDE777