Fabio206 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 lol nice trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAJunkies Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Happy to host @ GTAJunkies.com (gta4downloads.com) m8 when its ready - just send us a PM and I'll setup FTP for you.. bandwidth isnt a issue Liking the trailer - music goes sooo well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amisnaru Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Yeah, nice trailer & nice work. Both of you. Speel's mod seems equally good so I hope he'll finish it as well. Can't hurt too much to have 2 snow mods out there to choose from. If the size turns out to be several GB's it might be a good option to make a torrent of it as well. Just in case you're wondering, no, that's not illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllusionMPN Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Yes we would be happy to host as well at GTAHQ.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_speel_good Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Omg a GB..I don't know if our server could afford it MegaWinRAR Yeah, but it's really unsure what the exact size of the mod will be! So let's wait for that! In the mean time I made the First Trailer of the Snowmod! (Currently in Bêta 3) Ofcourse you will see some bugs and render mistakes, but that why it's stille a Bêta, right? The Trailer: jumbo0 Looking nice. Also a good idea would be to split the mod into 50MB parts and upload them as a torrent or on rapidshare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFord4x4 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Keep up the good work guys. Looking forward to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durklives Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 If possible, could you tell me where I can find other texture files? For example the leafs, the highways etc. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to tell that, but I think you will understand that I was the first one who started working on a snowmod for GTA IV, and I had to search hard to find all those textures! I think it's not difficult to understand that I won't give too many info to any "concurence" Regards, jumbo0 Wow man, you're a first class dick. It's not like you made the f*cking game, you're retexturing. The real reason you're afraid to help others out is because you don't want to take the chance that someone else will do it better. Just help the guy out man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_speel_good Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Wow man, you're a first class dick. It's not like you made the f*cking game, you're retexturing. The real reason you're afraid to help others out is because you don't want to take the chance that someone else will do it better. Just help the guy out man. Yes but he did search the texture files for hours so why would I have it all ready while he had to work to find them? Speel's mod seems equally good so I hope he'll finish it as well. Meh, my responsibility levels are below zero. At one time I'm like "I'M GONNA COMPLETE THIS MOTHERf*ckER" and then I'm like "oh, I'm so bored I'll go play GMod or free roam in GTA IV"... Recently I've seen a lot of positive comments for my work though, so I'll try not to dissapoint you guys. Expect a new thread in the near future so that jumbo0 and I won't have to worry about whose snow mod was commented. I realise that I've only done like, just the ROADS (and some rooftops) of Manhattan but that doesn't matter. I will complete this mod no matter what! ... ... nah I'm bored I'll go play GMod Just kidding. So, see you soon! Edited January 10, 2009 by i_speel_good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo0 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) If possible, could you tell me where I can find other texture files? For example the leafs, the highways etc. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to tell that, but I think you will understand that I was the first one who started working on a snowmod for GTA IV, and I had to search hard to find all those textures! I think it's not difficult to understand that I won't give too many info to any "concurence" Regards, jumbo0 Wow man, you're a first class dick. It's not like you made the f*cking game, you're retexturing. The real reason you're afraid to help others out is because you don't want to take the chance that someone else will do it better. Just help the guy out man. I f*cking searched those freakin textures for DAYS! Those things are a part of modding! I'm not giving all my info! Sure, I give you all locations! And why don't I upload all my edited textures as well? Or maybe I can import them ass well Then you just have to put your name on it, and you've made it! I'm sorry i'm not working that way! My plan was to make the first snow mod, knowing that I'm just an amateur! So I'm not going to screw my plan just because some guys don't like it! I already told that i_speel_good his textures are good! So whenever he will finish his snowmod, I'm pretty sure his one will be the best one. But searching everything is part of modding and i'm not giving away all my f*cking info! And I'm making this snowmod for all the people that likes a snowmod in GTA IV, not because I like it to let me call a dick, sorry... @ i_speel_good : I'm sorry, I don't want to citizize that you posted your screens in my topic, I just want to make clear that because I'm not telling where the other textures are, it doesn't make me a dick... Greetz anyway mister durklives Edited January 10, 2009 by jumbo0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaifalM3n Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 as a modder i know how it feels to be ripped off` i credit this guy because i`ve seen mod stealers in the past years .. great job man. keep it coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo0 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 as a modder i know how it feels to be ripped off` i credit this guy because i`ve seen mod stealers in the past years .. great job man. keep it coming Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaifalM3n Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 you man i was crediting your action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_speel_good Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 @ i_speel_good : I'm sorry, I don't want to citizize that you posted your screens in my topic, I just want to make clear that because I'm not telling where the other textures are, it doesn't make me a dick... 1. I never said you critisized it, I believe it's just unfair of me jacking your own thread. 2. I understand why you aren't giving out the texture locations. 4. I never called you a dick 5. Where the f*ck is number 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo0 Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 @ R1fl3m4n: Thanks! @ i_speel_good: Not all those things I wroted was meant to you! Most of them were meant to the guy that called me the dick! Mister durklives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_speel_good Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Alright, dude. I'm making my own thread right now. edit: Thread posted! Edited January 10, 2009 by i_speel_good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durklives Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 If possible, could you tell me where I can find other texture files? For example the leafs, the highways etc. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to tell that, but I think you will understand that I was the first one who started working on a snowmod for GTA IV, and I had to search hard to find all those textures! I think it's not difficult to understand that I won't give too many info to any "concurence" Regards, jumbo0 Wow man, you're a first class dick. It's not like you made the f*cking game, you're retexturing. The real reason you're afraid to help others out is because you don't want to take the chance that someone else will do it better. Just help the guy out man. I f*cking searched those freakin textures for DAYS! Those things are a part of modding! I'm not giving all my info! Sure, I give you all locations! And why don't I upload all my edited textures as well? Or maybe I can import them ass well Then you just have to put your name on it, and you've made it! I'm sorry i'm not working that way! My plan was to make the first snow mod, knowing that I'm just an amateur! So I'm not going to screw my plan just because some guys don't like it! I already told that i_speel_good his textures are good! So whenever he will finish his snowmod, I'm pretty sure his one will be the best one. But searching everything is part of modding and i'm not giving away all my f*cking info! And I'm making this snowmod for all the people that likes a snowmod in GTA IV, not because I like it to let me call a dick, sorry... @ i_speel_good : I'm sorry, I don't want to citizize that you posted your screens in my topic, I just want to make clear that because I'm not telling where the other textures are, it doesn't make me a dick... Greetz anyway mister durklives You're missing the point. You don't have ownership over the file structures or where the textures are. You didn't make the textures and giving away the locations of the textures in the interests of a more diverse mod scene doesn't "rip off" anyone. You're behaving like a child with this "I did all the work" when really the only "work" you would be doing would be redoing the textures. Like I said before, the only reason you are behaving like this is because YOU are afraid someone else do a snow mod that looks way better than yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaifalM3n Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 so` if a modder dosnt use privacy whats the point of being one in the first place? if rockstar sends a "Friendly" e-mail to the (well) saints-row developers and telling them what theyr ` content is about, whats the point of rivlary and competition? .... i post in these thread just to clear some` sh*t out...not to flame or acuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durklives Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 so` if a modder dosnt use privacy whats the point of being one in the first place? if rockstar sends a "Friendly" e-mail to the (well) saints-row developers and telling them what theyr ` content is about, whats the point of rivlary and competition? .... i post in these thread just to clear some` sh*t out...not to flame or acuse. There is no "privacy" because the files are accessible to anyone that has the game, the guy just wants to slow development on other peoples projects. He's not afraid of someone "stealing" his work, he's afraid that if he contributes to the mod scene by helping others out and by helping to diversify the mod scene he will be up against further competition and this his "awesome" snow mod might not be so awesome after all since someone else could make another snow mod that kicks the sh*t out of his, which is actually happening right now despite his best efforts to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_speel_good Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) *ass mode turned on* so` if a modder dosnt use privacy whats the point of being one in the first place? if rockstar sends a "Friendly" e-mail to the (well) saints-row developers and telling them what theyr ` content is about, whats the point of rivlary and competition? .... i post in these thread just to clear some` sh*t out...not to flame or acuse. What f*cking kind of privacy are you talking about? Just like durklives said, there is no privacy in the files that anybody can access if they own the game. I just realised that jumbo0 is actually trying to f*ck me up... Wow, thank you, durklives, for opening my eyes. Thanks a lot. Also, rifleman, You've got things mixed up. Your line about rockstar sending thq a friendly email is f*cking hard to understand and if it's what I think it is, it's f*cking stupid. oh wow I used the "f word" 4 times in one post oh I'm so immature Edited January 11, 2009 by i_speel_good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durklives Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 so` if a modder dosnt use privacy whats the point of being one in the first place? if rockstar sends a "Friendly" e-mail to the (well) saints-row developers and telling them what theyr ` content is about, whats the point of rivlary and competition? .... i post in these thread just to clear some` sh*t out...not to flame or acuse. What f*cking kind of privacy are you talking about? Just like durklives said, there is no privacy in the files that anybody can access if they own the game. I just realised that jumbo0 is actually trying to f*ck me up... Wow, thank you, durklives, for opening my eyes. Thanks a lot. You've got things mixed up. Your line about rockstar sending thq a friendly email is f*cking hard to understand and if it's what I think it is, it's f*cking stupid. oh wow I used the "f word" 4 times in one post oh I'm so immature No kidding. I mean, jumb0 has the right to say "no, I'm not helping you out" but the reason for it wouldn't be because he did a lot of work trying to find the files, but because he wants to be the only guy doing a snow mod. He doesn't want to take the chance there might be someone else out there with more talent. There is absolutely no sense in not sharing information. If we share information and help each other out we will have a more robust and diverse modification scene. This would benefit everybody because there would be a lot more choice in the way a person wants to mod their game. It would also increase the rate at which mods release because everyone won't have to start from scratch since they will have benefited from the collective experience of all modders. Jumb0 don't be selfish like that. We know you did a lot of work finding where the files were, but if everybody in the mod scene were like you and chose not to help anyone out because you want to hog all the imaginary glory of being the first guy to figure it out, then the mod scene would be stagnant and the rate of releases would be much slower since no one could benefit from the knowledge of another, we would all have to start from scratch. I'm glad though that even if you chose to keep the information private it would only be a matter of time until someone else did the work that you did and chose to share it. That way if I wanted Liberty City to look like it had been snowed my only choice wouldn't be your mod. I'm glad for that too, because there are things about your snow mod that I don't like, I think some of the tiling looks unrealistic and I think other people notice it too, that's probably why there is another snow mod competing with yours. Same thing with the handling and car damage mods, thankfully people doing those are open to collaboration and as a result I have more choices in the way the cars in my game drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_speel_good Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 No kidding. I mean, jumb0 has the right to say "no, I'm not helping you out" but the reason for it wouldn't be because he did a lot of work trying to find the files, but because he wants to be the only guy doing a snow mod. He doesn't want to take the chance there might be someone else out there with more talent. There is absolutely no sense in not sharing information. If we share information and help each other out we will have a more robust and diverse modification scene. This would benefit everybody because there would be a lot more choice in the way a person wants to mod their game. It would also increase the rate at which mods release because everyone won't have to start from scratch since they will have benefited from the collective experience of all modders. Jumb0 don't be selfish like that. We know you did a lot of work finding where the files were, but if everybody in the mod scene were like you and chose not to help anyone out because you want to hog all the imaginary glory of being the first guy to figure it out, then the mod scene would be stagnant and the rate of releases would be much slower since no one could benefit from the knowledge of another, we would all have to start from scratch. I'm glad though that even if you chose to keep the information private it would only be a matter of time until someone else did the work that you did and chose to share it. That way if I wanted Liberty City to look like it had been snowed my only choice wouldn't be your mod. I'm glad for that too, because there are things about your snow mod that I don't like, I think some of the tiling looks unrealistic and I think other people notice it too, that's probably why there is another snow mod competing with yours. Same thing with the handling and car damage mods, thankfully people doing those are open to collaboration and as a result I have more choices in the way the cars in my game drive. Your points are all correct but while I acknowledge the parts of this mod's lacking I never said I made my mod to compete with this mod. When Jumbo0 first posted his texture I just added a tyre mark to see how it looked and then wanted to test it out. So I made a nice road. I liked it. I kept adding and removing and I ended up texturing almost the whole manhattan part of the game! I never had the intention of competiting with jumbo0 but if we're gonna end up to a level where he's gonna close all the information for himself then I'd rather do compete with him. Not compete who's gonna make it faster but who's gonna make it better. Right now I've found useful textures in one file (gtxd.img which contains all island's roads, pavements, rooftops etc). I don't understand how half of the game's textures are in one 15MB file and jumbo0 claims that it's like half a GB. You don't have to include the whole files of the game, just the changed files (for example if blabla.wtd changes in 2gb img called jersey_2.img you don't upload the whole img, you simply upload the blabla.wtd file and instruct where and how to replace). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durklives Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 What I meant by competition was that if two people are producing similar, but separate products then those two products are in competition. In the market place it would be for wealth and money, but here it would be competition for number of people playing it. The end result is that the people that download and play mods would be benefiting greatly because they would have two choices about what kind of snow mod they want. Maybe one snow mod looks better than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_speel_good Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I see. I can only imagine there is more competition other than what mod the player is going to decide to use. It's about fame, being featured in GTA networks like gtagaming or gtanet, or even gaming networks like kutaku. Imagine the rage jumbo0 that would have if I was featured in IGN or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo0 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Look, I'm not trying to f*ck p i_speel_good! I just wanted to be the first one to release a snowmod! I'm not trying to be te best one! Maybe my snowmod looks like crap! (Some people said it doesn't but ok) I just want to finish my snowmod a an never-modded-before-amateur! Cause I never modded before! This is my first real big mod! So when I give exact locations it will be after the release of my snowmod i_speel_good, what you're saying about not uploading the whole IMG but only WTD's... It just can't Right now I edited over 2500 textures spread over more then 300 WTD's. Someone who want to install the snowmod will be importing for many many hours Maybe when you make an installer that can import to IMG's, but I don't think so... Whatever you guys think of me, I'm not that rude or whatever... I just want to finish my mod and release it, that's all. And in the time you discuss it here, you could already found the textures jumbo0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_speel_good Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I just wanted to be the first one to release a snowmod! I'm not trying to be te best one! cough cough, irony Whatever you guys think of me, I'm not that rude or whatever... I just want to finish my mod and release it, that's all. And in the time you discuss it here, you could already found the textures jumbo0 You mean in 10 minutes? Why did you get so angry about working hard then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeak Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Screenshot mode)) http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4072/gtazimovkant5.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsumotoo Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Snow and those snowflakes are very goood rly but you should work on the texture of the road its so blurry. GOODWORK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=T.A= Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Screenshot mode)) http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4072/gtazimovkant5.jpg Photoshop is every good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo0 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 I just wanted to be the first one to release a snowmod! I'm not trying to be te best one! cough cough, irony Whatever you guys think of me, I'm not that rude or whatever... I just want to finish my mod and release it, that's all. And in the time you discuss it here, you could already found the textures jumbo0 You mean in 10 minutes? Why did you get so angry about working hard then? What ironic?? And if you can import over 300 WTD's in 10mins, concratz! I hope you feel good now... And for if you don't get it, importing is a little faster then exporting, editing and saving of 2500+ textures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo0 Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Screenshot mode)) http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4072/gtazimovkant5.jpg A snowmod completet like that would be awsome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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