Vice City not coming to PC?

[LanceLongstiff]

Does anyone think the criticisms aimed at GTA IV make it less likely that we will see the sequels to Vice City and San Andreas?

 

Do any of you even want to see them after the mess that GTA IV turned out to be?

 

Personally I think it will make R* think twice before developing for the PC again. Take2's share price tumbled this week, and I think that much of it is down to the failure of the Windows version of GTA IV.

[JeddyH]

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[steve30x]

If they do it right the next time and take on some BETA testers that can do their job properly so the game will be a lot less bugged than GTA IV then I would love to see a sequel. I dont know if they had BETA testers for GTA IV but if they did they didnt do their job properly for sure which the PC version is such a mess.

[steve30x]

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That was a total waste of time.

[Chroniss]

Yeah they f*ck up and then blame then consumer. It could happen but it will hurt them bad in the long run if they choose the easy way out. A better solution would be to get it right the second time around, and restore their fans faith in them.

[Fuel_81]

 

If they do it right the next time and take on some BETA testers that can do their job properly so the game will be a lot less bugged than GTA IV then I would love to see a sequel. I dont know if they had BETA testers for GTA IV but if they did they didnt do their job properly for sure which the PC version is such a mess.

Giving themselves enough time to start and finish it before that christmas is (apparently) the key.

 

I'd love to see VC running on 4's engine Would be very nostalgic and new in the same.

[nicotin3]

I have high hope that R* is going to support and improve the game with future patches .

[ravenmorpheus]

@nicotin3 - Well the biggest thing they can do, aside from solving, if possible, the performance issues, is to issue a patch that fixes problems where missions like Final Interview (part 2) just don't activate. I have been digging around and it seems linked to not getting a call from Elizabeta after the Puerta Rican Connection mission.

 

Frankly though I don't think R* care, that bug has been around since the console version and that was released way back as early as May this year.

 

R* have made their money, and the stuff they "fixed" in the first patch just shows how committed they are to solving issues with the game, i.e. they're not.

 

They have had since the console release of the game to port it and work through any bugs that were present in the console versions and they haven't all they've done is a port of the game and then left it until people complained before they decided they better release a patch, which was a lame attempt at damage control and nothing more.

 

I was hoping for more from GTA IV, straight out of the box, despite having a low end system to run it on, and now I'm left with a game I can't continue with and may end up having the same issue with if I restart it because R* Toronto couldn't be bothered to fix already known about bugs in the mission scripting.

 

And any sequels to VC or SA being on PC stand the same chance of being as buggy so I'll be staying well clear of them.

[gamerzworld]

 

Take2's share price tumbled this week, and I think that much of it is down to the failure of the Windows version of GTA IV.

Yeah. Forget the fact that the stock price was been pretty much the same as it's always been before the annual report came out this week, the recession, and the fact that GTAIV for PC was released in first quarter 2009 and not 2008 so it's not included in the annual report that ticked most investors off this week. Dam facts to hell.

Edited December 22, 2008 by gamerzworld

[creat3d22]

^^^ Indeed, it's as if Take Two's the only company with financial troubles right now

[pimpinpenguin?]

It will come to the PC. Rockstar have already done the hard work of getting the RAGE engine working on the PC, they aren't just going to leave it now. Rockstar will continue improving as they go along just like they did with the old GTA ports.

[Psycold]

Take2's share price tumbled this week, and I think that much of it is down to the failure of the Windows version of GTA IV.

Yeah. Forget the fact that the stock price was been pretty much the same as it's always been before the annual report came out this week, the recession, and the fact that GTAIV for PC was released in first quarter 2009 and not 2008 so it's not included in the annual report that ticked most investors off this week. Dam facts to hell.

exactly what I was gonna say, do some people have no idea our economy is in worse shape than it's ever been and capitalism is failing as we speak?

[Brawly]

Well they can learn from their mistakes.

[reeven]

I like the game, i love the game, except when it rain, i have 23 fps minim, but GTAIV is a good game, the best of all times car games, back in 99 Driver 1 was that good.

Do not complained, and go to the game and play, you guys pay for this.

The game on PC is so complex that a lots of bugs must be repaired, be pacient.

[TruXter]

My prediction???

 

I mean thats all this crap is.

 

Vice city will hit pc end of 2009

San Andreas will hit pc end of 2010

 

London will hit pc 2012

London expansion will also include mmorpg, 5 years to late.

For extra features in mmorpg expansion, you must own previous games.

 

 

AKA FUTURE PROOF

[DML]

Personally I think it will make R* think twice before developing for the PC again.

It all depends on what you mean literally by the use of the words "developing for the PC again". In all seriousness, if they literally did develop for the PC, then we (they) wouldn't be in this mess.

 

I think we'll see the next GTA on PC, but they won't have done much on the engine between now and then (half a year after the console release of the next GTA). It will LOOK like it runs better, but only because it'll be 2010/2011, and PCs will be much much faster by then. The same will be true - if they developed for the PCs of the current time, the game would always look and perform twice as good, but until Rockstar gets a grip on proper game development, this will never happen.

[psx2p]

^^^ Indeed, it's as if Take Two's the only company with financial troubles right now

your sig is awesome,

 

and people need to quit crying, they WILL release patches and there WILL be more PC games,

 

 

o wait nvm at least 50 peopel sed they wont so i guese that means they wont......

 

 

so i guess a multi million dollar company is just gonna give up on all the PC ports, and miss out on all the revenue? yea that sounds like a smart business idea.

[DavidGC]

My prediction???

 

I mean thats all this crap is.

 

Vice city will hit pc end of 2009

San Andreas will hit pc end of 2010

 

London will hit pc 2012

London expansion will also include mmorpg, 5 years to late.

For extra features in mmorpg expansion, you must own previous games.

 

 

AKA FUTURE PROOF

The f*ck?

 

Go die.

[Lord Illicious]

I say they make the next vice city remake on the PS2 again.

 

This way when ported to the PC at least a single core with a decent graphic card PC can run the game.

 

You have any idea how much RS made so many pc hardwares sell?

 

I plan an staying with my PC for more years than it will take RS to come out with the next GTA.

Maybe i should start saving up for a 24 cores 50Ghz chip, 30 terabyte HDD, 512GB DDR18 RAM, 8 sli/crossfire(ed) 128GB DDR36 Extra special edition graphic cards, one giant 640mm (soon 40k BTUs fans) Zalman CPU fan, 6800 watt psu, Icecool cooled (replaces water cooled with a cold fusion accelerator designed by NASA and other worldly beings) and a special electro ass plug that will require 3 account to be created online so everytime theres a bug it can crawl up your ass and give ya a shock.

 

Planned after GTA5 Vice City will be RS' version of The Matrix that will require no PC but only your brain. You will have to do some minor surgery and health tests but it will be great i bet.

[DavidGC]

I plan an staying with my PC for more years than it will take RS to come out with the next GTA.

Maybe i should start saving up for a 24 cores 50Ghz chip, 30 terabyte HDD, 512GB DDR18 RAM, 8 sli/crossfire(ed) 128GB DDR36 Extra special edition graphic cards, one giant 640mm (soon 40k BTUs fans) Zalman CPU fan, 6800 watt psu, Icecool cooled (replaces water cooled with a cold fusion accelerator designed by NASA and other worldly beings) and a special electro ass plug that will require 3 account to be created online so everytime theres a bug it can crawl up your ass and give ya a shock.

 

I declare some win in this thread!

[Zav_]

I have high hope that R* is going to support and improve the game with future patches .

I have terrible news for you..

[gamerzworld]

 

I have high hope that R* is going to support and improve the game with future patches .

I have terrible news for you..

What? Them patching the game is bad news?

[qwertz123]

there is no patch coming in the long run. maybe once they will fix some useless stuff, little bugs who no one really cares about (hint patch 1).

 

and don't forget that porting a game to pc isn't the whole thing. the support takes time and money. no wonder only xp sp3 and vista sp1 are official supported, though its technically totally mindless.

 

i hope for all the fans of the gta series here that a pc sequel is coming but i personally would't hold my breath that long (hint epic and gears of wars...)

[Lord Illicious]

there is no patch coming in the long run. maybe once they will fix some useless stuff, little bugs who no one really cares about (hint patch 1).

It can be argued but not really debated since there are a few more things that are not little bugs.

 

Here are 2 that i have which are very serious:

Disappearing and re-rendering textures which occur when out of camera view.

Why would this even need to be like this?

 

Incomplete uncooperative dynamic analog control with cooperative non-analog fixed key commands.

Go fly a heli and youll see. This isnt just a lil bug.

 

Other have serious to minor problems:

Memory leaks causing crashes

FPS on low settings with over the minimum requirements

No dynamic shadows problem

Install and run problems

 

List goes on. Doesnt look like little bugs or useless stuff to me especially with high end setups.

[qwertz123]

 

there is no patch coming in the long run. maybe once they will fix some useless stuff, little bugs who no one really cares about (hint patch 1).

It can be argued but not really debated since there are a few more things that are not little bugs.

 

Here are 2 that i have which are very serious:

Disappearing and re-rendering textures which occur when out of camera view.

Why would this even need to be like this?

 

Incomplete uncooperative dynamic analog control with cooperative non-analog fixed key commands.

Go fly a heli and youll see. This isnt just a lil bug.

 

 

 

a: with cooperation from r* the driver team of nvidia and ati is working on it.

 

b: do you think a fix is comming when only the xbox controller is suppoerted? maybe razor_s has a workaround on the way.

 

 

Other have serious to minor problems:

 

Memory leaks causing crashes - in this late (final development?) stage a leak is just a leak.

FPS on low settings with over the minimum requirements - maybe a driver update will improfe performance, but minimum implies kinda low fps.

No dynamic shadows problem - driver fix.

Install and run problems - call the tech support of r* and get help.

 

 

List goes on. Doesnt look like little bugs or useless stuff to me especially with high end setups.

 

you see? all these uses occur on a non gamecode bound basis, so no patching needed. just some workarounds here and there, so no patch.

[nicotin3]

I have high hope that R* is going to support and improve the game with future patches .

I have terrible news for you..

No, they will improve it.

The game is f*cking amazing, thats what R* does, f*cking amazing games and they just cant leave it like this.

I've been free roaming in MP and its so much fun... but the stutter is what kills it, the game must have some serious memory problems.

 

Anyway someone worked their asses off to make it, they needed more time but i doubt they will leave it like this.

[Lord Illicious]

Incomplete uncooperative dynamic analog control with cooperative non-analog fixed key commands.

Go fly a heli and youll see. This isnt just a lil bug.

 

b: do you think a fix is coming when only the xbox controller is supported? maybe razor_s has a workaround on the way.

 

 

360 controller also suffers from this problem and only a support for a 360 controller is extreme favoritism.

RS just couldnt ignor the millions of already gamepads plus the 360 one already listed at least by default.

 

Makes no sense and a work around from a user should not be his/her responsibility.

A fix by a user will have to be very elaborate since rotation will have to be cooperative with analog.

To do this you must emulate analog control with fixed key command functions but this will not give you analog control.

OR

Configure a way to have thoes fixed keys cooperate with analog control which is what im trying to figure out.

Currently its a trade off thing. Dynamic analog is switching to fixed commands back and fourth.

 

Look at the singled out button configurations.

Hope you have at least 3 arms.

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=386432

 

BTW, this isnt a real rant but just a disagreement with the comment of no useful patch will arrive anytime soon which makes no sense since this problem could be very easily fixed if RS just assigns cooperative keys to analog control just like the PS3 and 360 has.

Believe me, a user fix could work but really is very irresponsible on our part as it will be a very complex to configure at the moment.

Edited December 22, 2008 by Lord Illicious

[Dcrysis02]

I plan an staying with my PC for more years than it will take RS to come out with the next GTA.

Maybe i should start saving up for a 24 cores 50Ghz chip, 30 terabyte HDD, 512GB DDR18 RAM, 8 sli/crossfire(ed) 128GB DDR36 Extra special edition graphic cards, one giant 640mm (soon 40k BTUs fans) Zalman CPU fan, 6800 watt psu, Icecool cooled (replaces water cooled with a cold fusion accelerator designed by NASA and other worldly beings) and a special electro ass plug that will require 3 account to be created online so everytime theres a bug it can crawl up your ass and give ya a shock.

 

I declare some win in this thread!

Haha,indeed....

[qwertz123]

I have high hope that R* is going to support and improve the game with future patches .

I have terrible news for you..

No, they will improve it.

The game is f*cking amazing, thats what R* does, f*cking amazing games and they just cant leave it like this.

I've been free roaming in MP and its so much fun... but the stutter is what kills it, the game must have some serious memory problems.

 

Anyway someone worked their asses off to make it, they needed more time but i doubt they will leave it like this.

hmm, mr. smart guy or shall i say dude huge? the xbox has a limited amount of 512mb cache resources for the whole system, including gpu and ram. so you tell me that a pc, with 2gb minimum system ram and 1gb vram is just not future proof enough or r* has just to fix some little lines and BOOM everything is pleased? keep it going, mate...

[qwertz123]

360 controller also suffers from this problem and only a support for a 360 controller is extreme favoritism.

 

sorry mate, didn't know that the supported xbox controller suffers as well. yeah, lets be optimistic and hope that r* fixes this use for 1% of pc gamers who play with a controller...