gangster_b Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I was browsing threw the gta files, and found in the handling. dat file some interesting things. there are secret planes in the game: DODO, FIGHTER, ANDROM ; name mass drag boy centreofmass ; A B C D E F G ANNHIL 8500.0 10.0 75 0.0 0.0 0.5 MAVERICK 4500.0 10.0 75 0.0 0.3 0.0 POLMAV 4500.0 10.0 75 0.0 0.3 0.0 TOURMAV 4500.0 10.0 75 0.0 0.3 0.0 ANDROM 50000.0 10.0 75 0.0 0.0 0.0 DODO 5000.0 10.0 75 0.0 0.3 0.0 FIGHTER 5000.0 10.0 75 0.0 0.0 0.0 The First 4 we all know, but there others???? If there's a car spawner tool for gta4, then we can spawn those vehicles so we can see how they look like. ALSO I found a Bike Called BOBBER: BOBBER 300.0 10.0 85 0.0 0.0 0.0 THAT"S ALL!! I don'know if somebody else posted this, so let me know:p Peace!!! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikt Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Old info. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058791738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangster_b Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 oh... well,It Was New For Me... thnx ikt Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058791744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinky Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 The bobber is just the handling name for the Freeway. The plane models arent in the game so they can't be used as myself and others have treid. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058791773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerx Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 we can add model tho eventually right? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058791996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyEmYay Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I think they were about to add planes but then didnt get the allowance to do it because the games playing NY...(now what I mean)... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058835390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeringhalo Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I think they were about to add planes but then didnt get the allowance to do it because the games playing NY...(now what I mean)... Exactly my thoughts, since I couldn't actually find Ground Zero either (at least where it should be) Now I can somewhat understand R* not wanting to come off as disrespectful in regards to 9-11 but I almost feel even more offended planes & ground zero weren't included because of all the 'terrorism' talk on the radio stations & 'terrorism' being the sole reason the bridges are supposedly closed at the beginning of the game. 9-11. Always Remember. Isn't that what they said? Always Remember. How about always ignore - because that's what everyone seems to do nowadays - avoid or ignore anything to do with 9/11. And that to me is even more offensive that the ability to fly a plane in Liberty City in a video game that jokes about terror threats on fictional radio stations. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058835499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruXter Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I think they were about to add planes but then didnt get the allowance to do it because the games playing NY...(now what I mean)... Exactly my thoughts, since I couldn't actually find Ground Zero either (at least where it should be) Now I can somewhat understand R* not wanting to come off as disrespectful in regards to 9-11 but I almost feel even more offended planes & ground zero weren't included because of all the 'terrorism' talk on the radio stations & 'terrorism' being the sole reason the bridges are supposedly closed at the beginning of the game. 9-11. Always Remember. Isn't that what they said? Always Remember. How about always ignore - because that's what everyone seems to do nowadays - avoid or ignore anything to do with 9/11. And that to me is even more offensive that the ability to fly a plane in Liberty City in a video game that jokes about terror threats on fictional radio stations. Avoiding and ignoring is why everyone hates bush. because they would rather ignore and call him a monster than face the truth. It's not Rockstar's fault. They might not be allowed to do it. "I would ask you to come in for some coffee but it would cost like $20 million" pretty much tells you they have to cya. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058835523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer_Dufus Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I think they were about to add planes but then didnt get the allowance to do it because the games playing NY...(now what I mean)... Exactly my thoughts, since I couldn't actually find Ground Zero either (at least where it should be) Now I can somewhat understand R* not wanting to come off as disrespectful in regards to 9-11 but I almost feel even more offended planes & ground zero weren't included because of all the 'terrorism' talk on the radio stations & 'terrorism' being the sole reason the bridges are supposedly closed at the beginning of the game. 9-11. Always Remember. Isn't that what they said? Always Remember. How about always ignore - because that's what everyone seems to do nowadays - avoid or ignore anything to do with 9/11. And that to me is even more offensive that the ability to fly a plane in Liberty City in a video game that jokes about terror threats on fictional radio stations. Avoiding and ignoring is why everyone hates bush. because they would rather ignore and call him a monster than face the truth. It's not Rockstar's fault. They might not be allowed to do it. "I would ask you to come in for some coffee but it would cost like $20 million" pretty much tells you they have to cya. Glad to see another fellow republican on the forums. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058835741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTsar Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 They probably will have to have flying encoded in the engine anyway if they are ever going to do a GTA IV Vice City/San Andreas with it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058835760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobJohnB95 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 i discovered this too Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058853470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrypsycho Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The only reason they added the terrorism thing at the begining was because its a very easy device to stop you being able to travel around. in past games the police would come even tho there was no reason like if a person used a boat etc.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058853655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bidji Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 my guess (for what it's worth) is those are just old pieces of code from previous gta games. the dodo was the wingless plane in gta3, the fighter I suppose is the harrier-like jet fighter from SA and the androm, I dunno... maybe the private jet in SA, or the small plane from VC. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058853851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXGraemeXx Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 my guess (for what it's worth) is those are just old pieces of code from previous gta games. the dodo was the wingless plane in gta3, the fighter I suppose is the harrier-like jet fighter from SA and the androm, I dunno... maybe the private jet in SA, or the small plane from VC. how exactly is it old pieces of code when it is an enitirely new engine? think... IMO. people should forget about 9/11. stop living in the past. this is 2009. how long are people going to "remember" about this tragic event that ocurred over 7 years ago... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058853879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) my guess (for what it's worth) is those are just old pieces of code from previous gta games. the dodo was the wingless plane in gta3, the fighter I suppose is the harrier-like jet fighter from SA and the androm, I dunno... maybe the private jet in SA, or the small plane from VC. how exactly is it old pieces of code when it is an enitirely new engine? think... Well, the harrier is referenced in san andreas data as HYDRA, but I might be wrong, it might have been FIGHTER The rendering engine is new, among other things, but most of the game is still the same code from san andreas, minus renderware and addition of natural motion and rage. I mean, that's the gist of it... And what you said about 9/11, maybe on some level you are right, but 7 years is not a very long time. Hiroshima has not been forgotten. Pearl Harbor. Vietnam. Gulf War. People will be on about 9/11 for years to come, but not in the way you are regarding it. There are, sure, lots of people out there who treat it like we treated Pearl Harbor way back when that happened, but for the most part, people are shifting the way they regard and remember sh*t. It's no one's place to rush them, just be on the up about it, especially when you seem to not realize just how large of an impact that has on today, let alone the last 7 years and the world at large. Edited January 7, 2009 by chngdman Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058853916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXGraemeXx Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 my guess (for what it's worth) is those are just old pieces of code from previous gta games. the dodo was the wingless plane in gta3, the fighter I suppose is the harrier-like jet fighter from SA and the androm, I dunno... maybe the private jet in SA, or the small plane from VC. how exactly is it old pieces of code when it is an enitirely new engine? think... Well, the harrier is referenced in san andreas data as HYDRA, but I might be wrong, it might have been FIGHTER The rendering engine is new, among other things, but most of the game is still the same code from san andreas, minus renderware and addition of natural motion and rage. I mean, that's the gist of it... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058853919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chngdman Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 my guess (for what it's worth) is those are just old pieces of code from previous gta games. the dodo was the wingless plane in gta3, the fighter I suppose is the harrier-like jet fighter from SA and the androm, I dunno... maybe the private jet in SA, or the small plane from VC. how exactly is it old pieces of code when it is an enitirely new engine? think... Well, the harrier is referenced in san andreas data as HYDRA, but I might be wrong, it might have been FIGHTER The rendering engine is new, among other things, but most of the game is still the same code from san andreas, minus renderware and addition of natural motion and rage. I mean, that's the gist of it... What? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058853928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydam Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I think the fighter might have been a WW2 fighter, like the Rustler. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058854038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle016 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Most of those are from San Andreas. I guess you haven't read about the other files, but there are a LOT of files that make references to tattoos, hairstyles, skills (on weapons), vehicle customizations, house robberies, etc. The planes/helis are just another thing left over from it. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058854087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpinpenguin? Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 It's not an entirely new engine they never are. All engines are built atop the previous versions, now alot of the Rage engine would have been completely rewritten but a few of the old codes from the old engine will still be used. Source engine is not new it has loads of the Hl and Quake code in it, Cryengine2 had codes from Cryengine one in it. You never start from scratch there is no reason to as alot of the code from the old engine can still be used it's a waste of time remaking them just for the sake of it. Wasn't the Andromada in San Andreas as that massive plane in the hanger? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058854122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aragond Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Old info. Might be useful if you're gonna slap the man's post down to provide a link to the thread rather than just shout "Simpsons did it!" Sureassh!t, I didn't know about this, either. That's exceptional. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058854183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0goldeneye0 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Its just one more thing to look forward to GTA IV Vice City/San Andreas. (assuming they go to VC and SA before making GTA V.) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1058854210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomworld10 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Hi, When actually looking at the files itself, we can't really tell it's old data since the files from San Andreas are organized differently, and values are different as well. Therefor they're not old data but more TEST data derived from old data. Furthermore the ANDROM data could be use for the two big FlyU6 planes 747-like which go along the runways as well as the two which pretend to land and take off. The ANDROM in SA was the white plane used in Stowaway, it's rather small than the AT400 and the even smaller than the FlyU6 747-like. It might be possible to use the ANDROM data with the FlyU6 747-like model to make a flyable vehicle, down the file there is flying data. If some model, like the FlyU6 small jets, can be attach to the DODO data it could be possible to fly it aswell. You can also notice down the file that the flying data line for the fighter is disable by #: $ DODO 0.5 0.40 0.0 -0.00015 #$ FIGHTER 0.5 2.0 0.0 -0.003 ; I have no clues why. Have fun Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1059209562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyforger Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 9/11 is inside job so they want you to forget about it !! simple ! http://www.infowars.com Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1059209597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
partslinger Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 my guess (for what it's worth) is those are just old pieces of code from previous gta games. the dodo was the wingless plane in gta3, the fighter I suppose is the harrier-like jet fighter from SA and the androm, I dunno... maybe the private jet in SA, or the small plane from VC. how exactly is it old pieces of code when it is an enitirely new engine? think... IMO. people should forget about 9/11. stop living in the past. this is 2009. how long are people going to "remember" about this tragic event that ocurred over 7 years ago... Ever heard the saying "Those who choose to forget the past, are destined to relive it"? If we forget all the bad sh*t that happens through history, we set ourselves up to take the same falls. Should we forget about Hitler and the holocaust too? So in 50 years some other asshole can do the same sh*t because we never saw it coming? I hope you realise how ignorant your statement is! Planes would be awesome in this game! So would destructible environments. Imagine being able to do bombing runs in this game. I think they went in the wrong direction on this one. The last two games had planes, and going from the Dodo to all the planes in San Andreas was awesome! I figured they would continue in that direction and have even more planes in IV. That would have been a whole lot more work, and they obviously have to draw the line somewhere or end up with a 25 gig game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1059210019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axelrod Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hi, When actually looking at the files itself, we can't really tell it's old data since the files from San Andreas are organized differently, and values are different as well. Therefor they're not old data but more TEST data derived from old data. Furthermore the ANDROM data could be use for the two big FlyU6 planes 747-like which go along the runways as well as the two which pretend to land and take off. The ANDROM in SA was the white plane used in Stowaway, it's rather small than the AT400 and the even smaller than the FlyU6 747-like. It might be possible to use the ANDROM data with the FlyU6 747-like model to make a flyable vehicle, down the file there is flying data. If some model, like the FlyU6 small jets, can be attach to the DODO data it could be possible to fly it aswell. You can also notice down the file that the flying data line for the fighter is disable by #: $ DODO 0.5 0.40 0.0 -0.00015 #$ FIGHTER 0.5 2.0 0.0 -0.003 ; I have no clues why. Have fun Uhm.. Has nobody on this part of the forum heard of the ANDROMEDA?? In Las Venturas, go to the huge hangar at the end of the Airport runway. Ta-Daa! Largest flyable plane in SanAn. Sorry for the 3 month bump btw. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1059401105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTxC Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Hi, When actually looking at the files itself, we can't really tell it's old data since the files from San Andreas are organized differently, and values are different as well. Therefor they're not old data but more TEST data derived from old data. Furthermore the ANDROM data could be use for the two big FlyU6 planes 747-like which go along the runways as well as the two which pretend to land and take off. The ANDROM in SA was the white plane used in Stowaway, it's rather small than the AT400 and the even smaller than the FlyU6 747-like. It might be possible to use the ANDROM data with the FlyU6 747-like model to make a flyable vehicle, down the file there is flying data. If some model, like the FlyU6 small jets, can be attach to the DODO data it could be possible to fly it aswell. You can also notice down the file that the flying data line for the fighter is disable by #: $ DODO 0.5 0.40 0.0 -0.00015 #$ FIGHTER 0.5 2.0 0.0 -0.003 ; I have no clues why. Have fun Uhm.. Has nobody on this part of the forum heard of the ANDROMEDA?? In Las Venturas, go to the huge hangar at the end of the Airport runway. Ta-Daa! Largest flyable plane in SanAn. Sorry for the 3 month bump btw. Holy bump... Correction: the largest plane is AT-400 or something like that. Andromeda is some kind of a hidden jet (not usable in the game normally) I think. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1059401146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollercoaster Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 This has nothing to do with 9/11. Planes were most likely left out because they have no place in Liberty City. I mean, think about it. You can probably fly over the entire city in like one minute with a chopper. With a plane it would take, what, 5 seconds? What's the point? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1059401829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackass2009 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Maybe you can convert the plane models to the FIB Buffallo, The Prius looking cars so that might actually be interesting, and the rusty sabres. I hope this is possible. If so please do. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1059402125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
havark Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 i aint sure how todo this but if you take a plane moddle from san andres ( we can convert files now or somthing like that?) take the WFT file and replace a helli or somthing add the Handling data and Wala he have a plane? Now all we need is sombody to try it. (i cant cos i dont have san andres) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/386263-secret-planes-other-vehicles-found-in-gta-4/#findComment-1059403182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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