Ultimate Graphics Tweak

[cshmech]

May i know how to fix?

[CptPusheen]

 

May i know how to fix?

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...696&hl=internet

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...164&hl=internet

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...234&hl=internet

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=393953

 

And please, don't make mess in this topic with questions not connected with thread

[gta-emotion]

Is it possible to make this modification only with the shadows?

I don't like motion blure

[Voodooman]

its look like u messed something with archives and put rage_fx that disables everything except motion blur, all tweak2 and tweak3 versions gives me no more DOF, no far distance no medium, and even shadows absolutely not smoothed. Btw im using 1.0.1.0 with magic patch, previously i used 1.0.2.0 and everything worked withour magic patch and all worked fine... maybe thats the reason?

 

have u ever tried visualsettings and rage_fx tweak with 1.0.1.0 ? Also which of rage_fx files u using? Belinda have 4 of them, and knanly got one, i think that i need one with disabled near blur?

[CptPusheen]

 

Is it possible to make this modification only with the shadows?

I don't like motion blure

Ok, I will make config for you.

 

@voodooman

I have 1.0.2.0 patch so I can't tell you if it works with previous patch. Why don't you install 2nd patch? It gives real boost of performance. I'm using tweak3. Btw, I checked thing out and all archives are ok

[GODzillaGSPB]

He's not using the second patch because of the tons ob objects this patch removes. And yes, the performance is better with the second patch (maybe because of the missing objects, but of course also due to the new graphic options), but I prefer look over performance.

 

@Voodooman: This mod works like a charm with patch 1.0.1.0. All you need is the MagicIV tool. Verify the files, apply the patch, then install the mod --> should work. Works for me. ^^

[CptPusheen]

Now I remember that I was using this tweak also with patch 1.0.1.0 ^^. Just follow Godzilla's instructions

Edited February 4, 2009 by bartekxyz

[Voodooman]

thats what im doing exactly, it was working ok, i messed with config and did many tweaks, then i reisntalled game i redownloaded Tweak2 and tweak3 files from 1st post and since that moment its aint work.

Only motion blur available, but distance DOF not work...

I tried now belinda`s Near_off_medium_on_far_on rage fx and its not work ok too... hm... it could not be because i changed some values to disable motion blur when niko is hit\recieved damage.

 

Earlier i have had results like that with my own config

 

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...st&p=1058919006

 

now with same config i have only motion blur(( that what makes me 80% sure that u messed rage fxc files in tweak2 and tweak3 archives, i probably used 1st tweak archive.

 

can u please check by yourself all rage_fx files u reuploaded ad see if u not messed them up?

Please post here version that work for you (upload separate ragefx and cfg) bluring shadows + have far and medium distance DOF.

 

P.S. - Godzilla absolutely rite about why im not using 1.0.2.0 patch )

Edited February 4, 2009 by Voodooman

[CptPusheen]

@Voodooman

Grab your tweak

 

@GTA-Emoticon

Here is yours

 

 

Please guys, report here after checking files I gave you

 

[GODzillaGSPB]

What did you change in the "special voodoolicious" ( ) version of your tweak? Because as far as I'm concerned the tweak 3 DOF was working perfectly, in 1.0.1.0 and 1.0.2.0. ^^

[Voodooman]

lol thx but u late again)

i already figure out myself, ragefx at tweak 2 archive (date 18.01.09) works like sharm and gives me DOF, ragefx at tweak 3 that claims to be DOF version (date of rage fx 19.01.09) only gives motion blur when settings seems to be distance DOF enabled.

 

So i probably was right u put wrong rage_postfx.fxc shader with tweak3, you should fix it in 1st post )

 

Btw this "special for me" version have very strange settings, end and start depth set to 0, and

 

misc.CrossPMultiplier.MidBlur	0.20  misc.CrossPMultiplier.Farblur	0.70

 

 

Are u sure its looks ok?

 

i recommend you to copy my settings for DOF version, its look almost like postfx AA with DOF and sharp textures))

 

1st reduce car motion blur activation with (because starting MB at 0 speed isnt look ok)

 

 

# cam.followvehicle.blur.speed 0 0 0 0cam.followvehicle.blur.speed.x 25   cam.followvehicle.blur.speed.y 50   cam.followvehicle.blur.speed.z 0   cam.followvehicle.blur.speed.w 0.1 

 

 

or at lease change 25 to 10-15 but dont touch 50, this will look better than your 0 and 25.

 

And the most important to make really beatifull DOF witch looks almost like pixelshader AA

 

 

# Misc Values   

misc.DOFBlurMultiplier.HD 1  

misc.DOFBlurMultiplier.SD 0.5  

misc.Multiplier.heightStart 50  

misc.Multiplier.heightEnd 125   - i believe my custom height values makes it look that good

misc.Multiplier.farClipMultiplier 2  

misc.Multiplier.nearFogMultiplier 0.0  

misc.3dMarkers.FrontLightIntensity 10.00 

misc.3dMarkers.frontLightExponent 32 

misc.coronas.WaterMultiplier 5 

misc.BloomIntensityClamp.HD 10 

misc.BloomIntensityClamp.SD 10.00 

misc.BloomIntensityClamp.SD.ps3 5.00 

misc.CrossPMultiplier.RimLight 0.70 

misc.CrossPMultiplier.GlobalEnvironmentReflection 1.00 

misc.CrossPMultiplier.Gamma 0.0 

misc.CrossPMultiplier.MidBlur 0.0 

misc.CrossPMultiplier.Farblur 1.0  only far blur should be enabled with heigh values i set its makes realy smooth fade from middle distance to far with DOF effect.

misc.CrossPMultiplier.SkyMultiplier 1.05 

misc.CrossPMultiplier.Desaturation  1.29

misc.HiDof.nearBlur 0.0

misc.HiDof.midBlur 0.0 

misc.HiDof.farBlur 1.0 

misc.cutscene.nearBlurMin 0.0

 

U can safely remove last 3 lines because they are repeating with no reason and also u can remove hundred more dummy lines, there is no reason to keep em)

 

Keep in mind that this work only with shader from tweak2.rar (18.02.09).

 

Gonna post some screens later.

Edited February 4, 2009 by Voodooman

[CptPusheen]

Oh, Voodooman, calm down, you get everything wrong and just confuse others. At first, tweak2 archive is version without DOF, tweak3 is version with FAR distance blur which IMHo works best. Don't correct me with this because I've never told that tweak3 is mid and far DOF, it's only FAR and everything is in order in all archives. You claim that MB is set wrong....you missed this shot. Motion blur starts with 0 because it was my intention to make motion blur kick in at initial speed. Near blur is set to 0 because it's ugly. And last....these three lines aren't useless. You must know that DOF multiplier, cutscene DOF and ingame DOF are three different things. Ufff....that's all I think.

 

@Godzilla

Voodoo version is mid and far depth of field enabled. Don't try this because it blurs whole screen a little

[Voodooman]

Man same to you, calm down, dont yell, and read careful to avoid missunderstanding))

 

Im getting everything ok, u getting me wrong, i didn't said that tweak2 archive with DOF, i know that visualsettings there not dof enabled, but i said that shader that u put in that archive makes possible to use that DOF, when Tweak 3 archive have shader (NOT VISUALSETTINGS, please dont mess) that doesnt really have DOF enabled, at least with my visualsettings ragepostfx from tweak3.rar dont blur anything static, just gives me motion blur and no DOF! (read careful please 1st 3 lines of my previous post u misunderstood me)

 

Thats what im saying: and if u will check archives u will see that there are 2 bytes different rage_postfx files, and u really put wrong one with tweak3 that not enabling DOF (as i said not enabled for me im not sure about others). And really where did u seen that i said that u said tweak3 have mid DOf? i didnt said anything like that)

 

And no im not claimed that MB is set wrong i just recommended you to set more realistic and reasonable values, u can just make another version, im sure many peoples will like when MB will enable at high speed and not when u just starting to drive))

 

What next? Ah, u said "Near blur is set to 0 because it's ugly"... but i didnt said any word about near blur value, and i know that its ugly and in my corrections its also set to 0 as u can see in post above)

 

And last....these four last (my mistake, actually 4, not 3) lines are useless. You shoold know that i know that DOF multiplier, cutscene DOF and ingame DOF are three different things, but u misunderstood me again... let me show you how default and your configs look like in the end of file:

 

 

misc.HiDof.nearBlur 0  

misc.HiDof.midBlur 0.20  

misc.HiDof.farBlur 0.70  

misc.cutscene.nearBlurMin 0.0

misc.HiDof.nearBlur 0.0

misc.HiDof.midBlur 0.20  

 

 

 

 

misc.HiDof.farBlur 0.70

misc.cutscene.nearBlurMin 0.0

====and then there are 100+ useless lines with SPACE symbol===

 

 

can u see it? same 4 lines repeating 2 times per row!!! game just read 4 same values 2 times, 4 duplicate lines its just mistake made by Torronto or North, you can safely remove 4 lines (+100 more dummy lines) from last 8 and everything will work ok))

 

Uffff... I hope now u understood me right))

 

"Voodoo" version that u posted for me indeed mid and far enabled, but settings i posted only Far distance enabled and looks different.

 

ill post some sceens soon.

Edited February 4, 2009 by Voodooman

[CptPusheen]

I am calm...just don't like all this gibberish about what to change and what not. I made it as it is and just accept it. Or maybe you want to take over this thread...take it You can ask others if tweak3 is DOF enabled. I can tell you that in 100% it is. There is only FAR blur enabled so you must look more carefully, only distant buildings are blurred(really slightly). Your settings just make GTA overblurred - something I was trying to avoid since this thread came out. And the last thing, deleting any lines from any config file isn't a good idea. These letters are just few bytes in size so don't take much space...So why should I remove it?

 

To clean this up

 

tweak2.rar is configuration with smooth shadows, no DOF,motion blur and 5% of static blur

tweak3.rar is configuration with grainy shadows, motion blur and far DOF

 

optional ragefx is shader for people who don't want static blur AT ALL

 

So could you stop confusing others? If you want to continue discussion about what to improve use personal messenger, it will be better for everyone and for this thread.

Edited February 4, 2009 by bartekxyz

[GODzillaGSPB]

To add to the confusion - hehe - I think you're getting the terms wrong, bartekxyz.

 

Tweak 2 has motion blur only, tweak 3 has motion blur and (far distant static) DOF.

 

/edit: LOL, in your last post you nearly wrote the same.

 

DOF means depth of field. This means that the view get's unsharp in the distance, because the eye tracks near objects. Of course it's not adaptive DOF in GTA IV, like in the real world. It's static DOF. But it's DOF.

 

BLUR means that an objects blurs, which means it becomes unsharp, either due to the movement of the player character who is watching the object, or due to the movement of the object itself.

 

And to repeat myself @ Voodooman: For me Tweak 3 works. Both with motion blur and DOF! Maybe there is something wrong with your configuration of the game?

[CptPusheen]

To add to the confusion - hehe - I think you're getting the terms wrong, bartekxyz.

 

Oh my<facepalm>...I think that Voodoo was trying to tell me that tweak3 don't blur shadows. I know that...it was initially tweak made for you Godzilla...but it has mutated with my other idea and so tweak3 was born with nice motion blur, slight DOF and sharp, detailed graphic. I must really reorganise first topic...

[thales100]

[Voodooman]

Aha i see your point )) dont be afraid im not goin to takeover your topic)) its all yours until ill change my mind.. im jokin)

U want me to prove u that tweak 3 have wrong version of shader included, not the same as was in tweak 2?)

Also tweak3`s ragefx not just havent shadow blur but also i dont see any DOF with it both with your and my configs, but when im replacing it with tweak2 version of rage fx everything working for me)

 

Ok here is my visual settings with shader from tweak2 packed in simple noob-friendly installer (just put it in GTA IV root folder and run and replace all files when prompt will popup, dont forget to make backup before replacing)

 

http://www.mediafire.com/?iewdwdbuznz

 

Thats what i call a REAL DOF its not overblured, near distance is pretty sharp, far distance looks AntiAliased and soft edged, some edges of middle distance looks a bit AA too, but ugly like they look when middle blur enabled!

 

For my eyes its best compromise between sharpness and blur, only trees doesnt look so ok for my eyes but when i tried to make them sharper the shadows become more grainy.

Blur same as your but started on default speed values 25 and 50 so only true sport cars can reach maximum motion blur.

 

GODzillaGSPB can your redownload tweak3 file and try ragepostfx from there with my config, and then try my config with ragefx from tweak2 file and see if there r any difference... ? it cant be my system config, this file work the same way for everyone no matter what system and game config u have, compare both ragefx with hex editor, u will see 2 bytes difference, then check Belinda`s post where he explained which bytes responsible for.

Im not lame and i know what i talking about, probably my english make it not so easy for bartek to understand exacly what im talking about))

Edited February 4, 2009 by Voodooman

[thales100]

Ok here is my visual settings with shader from tweak2 packed in simple noob-friendly installer

Mmm dont you feel like hijacking bartekxyz thread ...

[CptPusheen]

Read my posts above. I knew that tweak3 has different shader. It was you who has mistaken terms BTW, I never use mid DOF as it blurs too many details like badly focused lens...don't look realistic IMO. Also motion blur should stay at initial 0 because this thread is mainly about MB which activate at 0 speed. It makes driving more eye-friendly and as far I know majority of tweak users use it because of this MB

 

 

Mmm dont you feel like hijacking bartekxyz thread ...

@Thales100

I kinda feel like Voodoo is trying to take this thread by storm...but it's take number 2...he was trying to do it somewhere at the beginning of this thread's life...making sub thread in someone's thread, asking others to try his thread and undermining my abilities...is it fair?

Edited February 4, 2009 by bartekxyz

[thales100]

@Thales100

I kinda feel like Voodoo is trying to take this thread by storm...but it's take number 2...he was trying to do it somewhere at the beginning of this thread's life

You should report this to CharmingCharlie.

[CptPusheen]

You should report this to CharmingCharlie.

You are joking, aren't you? I like CC so i dont' want to bother him with this tiny problem

[thales100]

You are joking, aren't you? I like CC so i dont' want to bother him with this tiny problem

No, im not joking, if you think its ok np, its up to you of course.

[CptPusheen]

You are joking, aren't you? I like CC so i dont' want to bother him with this tiny problem

No, im not joking, if you think its ok np, its up to you of course.

I will leave it...maybe Voodoo will cool down and stop undermining and sabotaging this thread

[thales100]

I will leave it...maybe Voodoo will cool down and stop undermining and sabotaging this thread

[Voodooman]

bartek, what r u talkin about? u taking everything really serios, im acting friendly u looks like not.

Its a dynamic thread and one post leads to another, there is nothing to report and to worry about) "hijacking"? "sub thread with undermining your abilities?"

Man please be honest, there was nothing like that, its just your imagination or seams that u not understand me right and that why u see things not exist...

 

if u will bother to take a look few messages back u will see that i reported that tweak not work like it worked before and givese me nothing exept motion blur, and i started to discovering the reason of that and all traces leads to tweak3 file content that not work good like tweak2 and that was reason of my problem, and that what i was talking about, also i suggested you to do few changes (im not forced u, just suggested) and shared my config but u started to act sorta like (pardon me) jealous kid or something like that:

 

"its my thread and only i am smart guy here who can post the tweaks and teach everyone else "

 

And each time when i asked u few simple things that require only short answer u started to "teach" me thing that i knew for ages and probably not less then u, i was polite to ask u honestly not to talk with me like with noob-lame-ass, but u did it each time u started to talk with me even after i reminded u about our conversation in thread where the whole this thread origins coming from ("separating blur from dof").

 

And in last post to me u tried to do that again to show that u smartest ever guy in this thread with "I knew that tweak3 has different shader. It was you who has mistaken terms " when in previous message half of your words that u think i "said" to you wasnt really typed in my post... so u really over-imagine "word" and whole this "hijack" in our conversation.

Nobody underlmining you and nobody sabotaging your thread, if you call suggestions and alternate configs a sabotage... its looks for me like weird feel of rival force thats making u probably pissed off... sorry i didnt mean to rival u or something just shared my thoughts+configs for u and others and u get them all wrong.

 

Or u think i should start a new thread called "ALternate Ultimate gfx tweak"?? dont u think its wrong? why cant i post any alternative configs in this thread? arent we both sharing same goal "to make gta 4 better" so why u bothering about that and taking it all seriosly?

 

You should calm, im calm too.

 

And no again im not mistaken the terms, please dont try to talk like that again dude its like u said unfair, i was working last years before 2008 as 3d gfx engine coder in one russian dev company until i got a better and less brain-f*cking (really tired from coding) work for local publisher, and i know what is DOF and i coded a lot of low level shaders in my life, and even coded software ray tracers and advanced post fx like reflective and refractive water in pre Geforce 3 era without programmable functions (aka shaders) with limited fixed functions back when i was demomaker... and each time u "teaching" me its just weird and unfair, coz is should teach u, but im not doing this))

 

So the dof http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field

 

 

simply when one layer on fixed depth on picture is in focus, when other layer in foreground or background is heavily unfocused.

 

Im preparing sceenshots of DOF i got and how its looks.

 

And noob-friend installers for u (installs ragfx in all folders, save few minutes comparing to manual install) as prove that im trying to be friendly and not hijackin the thread)))

[CptPusheen]

Voodooman, just stop smart-assing me. And as I said before, use PM to send me any suggestions. I just don't want readers to be totally confused finding over 9000 configurations in every page. Oh, and don't tell me that you should be teaching me.

Edited February 5, 2009 by bartekxyz

[Voodooman]

ok stoped))) peace ma breda, respect rusta)) lets go smoke some herb)

[GODzillaGSPB]

ok stoped))) peace ma breda, respect rusta)) lets go smoke some herb)

I'd strongly suggest to open your own topic. If you have your own ideas then please go ahead, create a mod and release it.

[Xtone]

great!!

It works very good!!! No more grain...smooth blur!!!!

Tx