THE END OF PC GAMING?

[biggeo]

I start this poll just to know what all PC users think about PC gaming. Is there a hope for PC gaming to continue as it was on the past?

Or PC gaming comes to an end?

 

The fact are:

A statement from EA Chief Executive John Riccitiello, "that PC don't have the power to play games like consoles when FIFA 09 announced for PC,so people must not expect much improvments on PC release",

shows exactly what EA thinks about games

 

There was an offer from EA to buy TAKE-TWO interactive for $2 billion, back on May 2008 when the worth of Take-two share was at $17.3 a piece at stock-market..

 

On July, after GTA IV sold already 6 million copies,and with the announced of the PC release for the game, Take-Two share had a boost at $26.6 a piece, so the convertation end there on August, as TT's chairman said that his company worth more than EA's offer.

 

But from then TT lost a 30% till late November price drop to $18 a piece.

 

After the release of GTA IV for PC, and why I say GTA IV was a failure, TT share droped to $8.4 a piece lose about 70% of its worth.

 

Now Take-Two's chairman Strauss Zelnick reconsider it.

 

Take Two interactive own R*, so if EA buy Take Two then I don't see a future in GTA series on PCs.

 

SAN ANDREAS SOLD 21 million copies on all platforms, and GTA IV will expected to sell not more than 12 million as take two anounced.

 

EA seems to eat the competition.

 

And if we think the statment from EA EA Chief Executive about PC and console games, then I don't know what to expect for PC gaming.

 

Will you believe that there will be companies out there to stand on EA's monopoly and develop quallity releases for PC or PC GAMING is over?

 

Resources: FORBES ,

T2 GAMES ,

EA

[Vicetopia]

Someone said it best in another thread:

December 2nd, 2008 will be remembered as the 9/11 of PC gaming.

[JeddyH]

unless your not playing GTA IV

[abottig]

Someone said it best in another thread:

December 2nd, 2008 will be remembered as the 9/11 of PC gaming.

not so.

 

the pc as a gaming platform is healthy. yes, it's not what it once was, but quality pc titles are still being released and developed.

 

the end is far off yet.

[DML]

HA

 

PC gaming can survive without Grand Theft Auto. Sure, the market was doing well when GTA was actually ON the PC (1997 to 1999), but PC games have since evolved in many varying ways, while GTA has gone the slutty path of a console game that is trying to mimic a PC game.

[sushir]

while GTA has gone the slutty path of a console game that is trying to mimic a PC game.

ROTFL ... Awesome comment. !!!

[eagle016]

GTA:IV is so hard for PC's because it's a crappy, very un-optimized port.

 

If it was built for the PC ground up like it was the PS3/360 it would run MUCH better.

[Vicetopia]

GTA:IV is so hard for PC's because it's a crappy, very un-optimized port.

 

If it was built for the PC ground up like it was the PS3/360 it would run MUCH better.

What's hard?

This game is easy as sh*t with mouse aiming.

[jesushumper]

PC gaming isn't going anywhere. It's always been strong and will continue to be so.

 

I must have excellent luck with GTA IV. Everyone knew what the recommended specs were and still bitched about it. It runs fine for me and my middle-of-the-road rig. OF course it could've been ported a bit better, but I'm still pretty happy with what i got - and it certainly isn;t ported any worse than VC and SA, which i also like.I have no texture issues, no crashes, GFWL and R*SC have worked just fine. I'd rather not have to need them, but they have been behaving.

 

Aside from the game content, which is very slightly sub-par, i find it as good as any other GTA. BUt the new fun physics and detail that the city has makews up for it. AND MP that's (barey) better than the user-made MP mods for other GTA games. The A.I. it's a little odd at timeds, but it's entertaning and works as well as needed.

 

I don't miss the car modding or haircuts, but i DO miss the skill leveling and most off all.. RAMPAGES, damnit!

 

I love the game so far (i'm at 65% or so) and have absolutely no regrets paying for it, even after i played a pirated copy.

 

And a fortunate - though sadly rare - feature is that it handles widescreen displays as it should - even triple-head.

 

I'm sure I'll buy the next one.

 

And there are devs doing worse than TT and R*, with sh*ttier games.

 

 

[Gielster]

Is everybody still whinin? The game rocks.

And why should pc gaming die because of the so called bad GTA IV PC?

 

[Vicetopia]

Is everybody still whinin? The game rocks.

Pointlessly praising the game is the same as whining, except in the other direction.

"Reverse whining", if you will.

[mkey82]

Someone said it best in another thread:

December 2nd, 2008 will be remembered as the 9/11 of PC gaming.

not so.

 

the pc as a gaming platform is healthy. yes, it's not what it once was, but quality pc titles are still being released and developed.

 

the end is far off yet.

Gaming as a whole is not what it once was. Christ, look at the gross of titles. Most (like all minus GTA IV) I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. PS2 had some really great games, PS also.

 

Now it's all about kiddie titles, sales and charts. Instead of devs asking themselves "OMG, can we sell more then other xyz sh*tty game?" they should be questioning the foundation of their titles. What does the game offer in terms of originality and gameplay? Games designed for kiddies will in most cases always be worthless and have zero gameplay value attached to it.

 

Most original and interesting games these days come foem indie developers - that is people who make games THEY like to play.

[gtaivpc]

I start this poll just to know what all PC users think about PC gaming. Is there a hope for PC gaming to continue as it was on the past?

Or PC gaming comes to an end?

 

The fact are:

A statement from EA Chief Executive John Riccitiello, "that PC don't have the power to play games like consoles when FIFA 09 announced for PC,so people must not expect much improvments on PC release",

shows exactly what EA thinks about games

 

There was an offer from EA to buy TAKE-TWO interactive for $2 billion, back on May 2008 when the worth of Take-two share was at $17.3 a piece at stock-market..

 

On July, after GTA IV sold already 6 million copies,and with the announced of the PC release for the game, Take-Two share had a boost at $26.6 a piece, so the convertation end there on August, as TT's chairman said that his company worth more than EA's offer.

 

But from then TT lost a 30% till late November price drop to $18 a piece.

 

After the release of GTA IV for PC, and why I say GTA IV was a failure, TT share droped to $8.4 a piece lose about 70% of its worth.

 

Now Take-Two's chairman Strauss Zelnick reconsider it.

 

Take Two interactive own R*, so if EA buy Take Two then I don't see a future in GTA series on PCs.

 

SAN ANDREAS SOLD 21 million copies on all platforms, and GTA IV will expected to sell not more than 12 million as take two anounced.

 

EA seems to eat the competition.

 

And if we think the statment from EA EA Chief Executive about PC and console games, then I don't know what to expect for PC gaming.

 

Will you believe that there will be companies out there to stand on EA's monopoly and develop quallity releases for PC or PC GAMING is over?

 

Resources: FORBES ,

T2 GAMES ,

EA

Xaxaxaax ama tin parei i EA siga mi doume prokopi emeis oi PC gamers

[scarybandit]

PC still works best for simulations, TBS strategy games, RTS games and MMORPGs at least.

 

PC is an easier format for modders which extends the life of old games, eg: Counter Strike and DOTA are still full of life.

 

PC games are more easily customised to a single user's preferences.

 

PC's are upgradeable and generally more powerful than consoles.

 

PC's are everywhere whilst consoles tend to remain in home living rooms.

 

Conclusion: There is still a strong market for PC games.

 

Commentary: Good games and bad games do not affect the viability of the medium. The medium itself stands or falls on its own merits.

[kakkoii]

Lol, PC Gaming will NEVER die. Because it is a unique experience that a console cannot bring.

 

Consoles are trying to become more and more like PC's every generation, pretty soon there isn't really going to be much of a difference other than developers choices.

 

Eventually consoles will die out I believe....Well not die out, more like merge with PC's. It's where it's already headed.

 

 

It's companies being stupid with their DRM on PC games that is hurting sales. Rockstar wasted $200,000 on a DRM that has NEVER protected any other game. And it was cracked before the game was even officially released. Nice waste of money there Rockstar. Money that should have been put into making the Port to PC much more optimized and bug free, instead of pushing out a piece of crap with nasty DRM that only effects the Legit users.

 

Would have saved you $200000 and given GTA IV PC a gppd name and even better sales.

Edited December 19, 2008 by kakkoii

[Irrati0nal]

GTA:IV is so hard for PC's because it's a crappy, very un-optimized port.

 

If it was built for the PC ground up like it was the PS3/360 it would run MUCH better.

What's hard?

This game is easy as sh*t with mouse aiming.

The game is hard to get working. Moron.

[stifmeister]

 

Is everybody still whinin? The game rocks.

And why should pc gaming die because of the so called bad GTA IV PC?

Totally agree. I don't usually post on game forums but with the OTT lambasting that R* has received over this I felt I had to.

 

What we experience here is no different from trying to get the very first Doom to run on your 186 processor with half a meg of RAM at 640x480etc back in the early 90s.

 

I have had a couple of problems getting GTA4 to run but now it's fine. To me it's simple - upgrade your hardware or turn it down. To those that do have the hardware then with the vast amount of possible combinations of hardware/software already on your box R* can't possibly cater for every eventuality.

 

 

[mkey82]

 

Eventually consoles will die out I believe....

Consoles as MS and Sony see them yes. I give them one more degeneration and that's that. IMO.

 

On the other hand, consoles like Wii have a lot more to show. And in he future will have even wider audience. Again IMO.

 

 

every eventuality.

You make it seem like there are only a few of us morons having problems with it. Well, guess again.

Edited December 19, 2008 by mkey82

[calebchosen]

Pc Gaming 4 life

[aragond]

 

Commentary: Good games and bad games do not affect the viability of the medium. The medium itself stands or falls on its own merits.

Disagree.

 

A medium can most definitely die because the games available on it aren't what the market wants. You sell consoles not because of their own value because they only have value AS facilitators of the games produced by others. Were it not so, MSoft wouldn't have paid hundreds of millions for R* to make exclusive material.

 

So, sh*te games could certainly kill consoles.

 

Oh, but you're talking about PCs, right, which have a use beyond game playing?

 

Sure. But GPUs don't. And if PC games kill PCs as a game-playing medium, then you can expect GPU development to slow for PCs and be directed at a more specific, less generic market, the console. And, the "medium" dies.

 

Not to say it couldn't be resurrected: consoles have made a strong comeback after dying in the 80s.

 

 

PC is an easier format for modders which extends the life of old games, eg: Counter Strike and DOTA are still full of life.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything to the producers (apparently). Doesn't generate more income, though it does give the developers a nice warm glow.

 

 

PC still works best for simulations, TBS strategy games, RTS games and MMORPGs at least.

Well, THAT'S the truth. Consoles will NEVER take that market, no matter how they try.

 

Which is why...

 

 

Conclusion: There is still a strong market for PC games.

Yes, but not necessarily ALL GENRES of games. PCs will never lose simulations et al, but it could lose completely to consoles for TPS games, such as GTA. Especially when the payback ratio for PCs is lower than for consoles, as made plain by R*'s low investment in the GTA port.

[MarximusAureliu]

PC gaming won't die as long as there are companies like Blizzard Entertainment who make the best games and don't sell out to consoles.

 

 

[Alucard155]

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but assasins creed started out on console and was ported perfectly to pc.. no FPS drops, no crashing, just perfect with a little sharper textures then on console..

[YoungGun]

well all hope that there is a bright future for PC game. just need more company's to take better advantage of the pc.

EA didnt bring Madden09 to the pc, how f'ed up is that though?

[mkey82]

well all hope that there is a bright future for PC game. just need more company's to take better advantage of the pc.

EA didnt bring Madden09 to the pc, how f'ed up is that though?

Nobody (or close to) on PC cares about that game anyway. FFS, they publish a "brand new" iteration each and every year!

[biggeo]

 

Gaming as a whole is not what it once was. Christ, look at the gross of titles. Most (like all minus GTA IV) I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. PS2 had some really great games, PS also.

 

Now it's all about kiddie titles, sales and charts. Instead of devs asking themselves  "OMG, can we sell more then other xyz sh*tty game?" they should be questioning the foundation of their titles. What does the game offer in terms of originality and gameplay? Games designed for kiddies will in most cases always be worthless and have zero gameplay value attached to it.

 

 

As an old game player I agree with you. Seems the days we play Phantasmagoria, RIVEN, or even 11th hour where just a nostalgic pat. I really missed these days.

[algenon_iii]

In my opinion one thing that makes the PC (as in IBM PC clone) strong is also it's biggest weakness. That is upgradeability and the myriad of different hardware configurations.

 

GTA IV (and a lot of recent releases) have shown just how difficult it is to get a game that runs fine on 100% of systems (that meet specs).

 

I think the only thing that could finish off the PC (as we know it) as a gaming platform is another Home or Personal Computer in the style of the C64/Amiga/ST. A computer with a set hardware configuration (or maybe a couple of variations). It would then have the advantages the console together with those of the PC. The thing is it's a big risk as it'll cost to develop and it needs game devs to get on board, so the only company that could pull it off would be someone like Sony (or perhaps even Nintendo or Sega).

 

Until that happens the PC (as we currently know it) will live on and still be where developers cut their teeth. But as soon as they make a few bucks they will also do console versions and may end-up being paid-off like R*.

[biggeo]

 

PC gaming won't die as long as there are companies like Blizzard Entertainment who make the best games and don't sell out to consoles.

I just hope BLIZZARD stay focus on PC gaming. Blizzards has a huge online community so I hope they never give on consoles.

 

Besides as PC gamers we need companies who relese demanding titles in hardware, as an excuse to update our PC's.

 

And GTA IV wasn't demanding, was buggy. I played fallout 3 using AA, but AA is upsent from GTA IV, plus in configurations it has an XBOX controller.

 

 

[lardandweed]

Blizzard, Bethesda, Bioware, Valve, 2k Boston/AU etc...

 

as long as companies like these exist, I'm sure there'll be many more great titles for PC. some even exclusive to PC =p

[Pranjal]

Games like Crysis, Call of Duty,FarCry and Half Life series are still going strong on the PC. So I don't think PC gaming is going to be extinct or something. It is only those cry baby developers who can't make their games working on the PC and it is these same developers who cry about piracy and the "end of PC gaming". My advice to them: Make your games work on the PC. And customers will surely buy your titles if they do justice to theirs.

[biggeo]

 

Xaxaxaax ama tin parei i EA siga mi doume prokopi emeis oi PC gamers

ine sta sxedia tis EA. alla oso iparhoun eteries san tin BLIZZARD, oi kapies alles mikroteres pou asxolounte mono me PC games isos iparhi elpida.

 

Kales giortes patrioti.