kaspersky Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) I have texture problems + slowness ingame (the road disappear - missing textures + slow fps) I solved the texture problems with CacheBoost program. (so I recommand Rockstar Toronto to fix this offically in the next patch) but I am still stuck with the slowness ingame problem. My Operation system is Windows XP SP3 RETAIL my video card is Nvidia 7950GT 250MB (250MB video card memory) I have Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz cpu and 1GB DDR2 of ram I play the game in 800x600 resolution. (evertthing on low 0/0/1) and even so, my fps is low, the game is stuttering for me! (stuck when I'm driving and the game is slow!) I have already installed the following with no luck: Patch - Titile Update (from rockstar website) Nvidia v180.84 driver (from nzone) Latest DirectX (from microsoft) NET Framework 3.5 + Sp1 (from microsoft) Is there going to be any hope for me? Is the next patch going to fix stutter/stuck/slowness (not smooth) / low fps game problems? need an offical respond from Rockstar Toronto. Edited December 16, 2008 by kaspersky Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixxx Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 you are using just 1 gig of ram? and your cpu is absolute minimum. i dont think theres something wrong. the settings do not decrese or increase the framerate that much. there are very high minum requirements also if you set everything on low end. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058770946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmajser Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 there is hope for you: get a new machine, and i mean it in a friendly way, if u want to play gta iv... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058770955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaspersky Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) Rockstar Toronto already confirmed that the game supposes to work fine on low with xp with 1GB ram (but not on vista becasue vista need more ram). + my video card is above minimum requirements. the stuttering/slowness/low fps is well-know problem and I think rockstar are working on it. just want to confirm this (to be sure that it will works fine on 7950GT after the second Patch/fix) Edited December 16, 2008 by kaspersky Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058770983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar Toronto Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Hi Kaspersky, Did you try the game after the Patch without Cacheboost? We have tried Cacheboost and noticed that it introduced stuttering. With 1Gig system RAM you really have to make sure nothing else is running in the background. Close everything that is not required by the OS in the Windows Task Manager. Every program you can close will give you more memory for textures. Also when the game first loads up it needs a few moments to "Warm up". Once everything has streamed in (you should see cars and pedestrians) the textures should remain. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058771014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaspersky Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) Hi Rockstar Toronto, and thank you for your help. Did you try the game after the Patch without Cacheboost? yes, I tried the game after patch without Cacheboost program and: I still have stuttering problems. ( + texture problems, with Cacheboost = no texture problems). hope you will fix the stuttering/stucking/slowness/lag/low fps game problems in the next patch. any other advice? bt the way- the stuttering problems happen to me when I drive.. the fps Is low.. I think this game need a some optimization to run smooth.. With 1Gig system RAM you really have to make sure nothing else is running in the background. Close everything that is not required by the OS in the Windows Task Manager. Every program you can close will give you more memory for textures. 1) I formated my XP SP3 retail and installed it again. 2) I disabled ALL background software (I did nto installed any - only antivirus) + I disabled ALL the un-needed processes (I use MSCONFIG for that) + I disabled one un-"needed for the game" service (antivirus - ekrn) 3) I deleted all the temporary files 4) I install the again patch + nvidia 180.84 driver + latest directx + framework 3.5 with sp1 (SP3 is already installed from my XP SP3 RETAIL Disc) no luck. still texture problems. Also when the game first loads up it needs a few moments to "Warm up". Once everything has streamed in (you should see cars and pedestrians) the textures should remain. I know the game needs a few moments after first load. the texture still disappear (after I drive some time a little far from 60 meter radius of the house - I don't know exactly. but it's not happening right after I live the house) I see cars and pedestrians but the roads are missing. (sometimes also buildings and even cars). this is without Cacheboost. (with Cacheboost the texture works fine - no missing textures). as I said I fix the textures problems with Cacheboost program. so what about the stuttering/stucking/slowness/lag/low fps problem? I hope you will fix it offically In the next patch. Edited December 16, 2008 by kaspersky Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058771221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilBeanbag545 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Hi Kaspersky, I also have this stuttering and i just upgraded my ram from 2gb to 4gb and got a new 9800gt1gb (did have 8800gts 320mb) and still have stuttering issues,when i also leave my house the game is flawless but then it kicks in within 5mins and just makes the game unplayable ,rockstar are helping me also and if we fix it ill post you details but untill then we will just stutter along nicely. Onwards and upwards eh This game will be fixed,its just gonna take some time. AMD X2 6000 (3.02ghz) 4GB RAM (DDR2 800mhz) 9800GT 1GB (180.84) Windows Vista Ultimate (SP1) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058772107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancaster77 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I have texture problems + slowness ingame (the road disappear - missing textures + slow fps)I solved the texture problems with CacheBoost program. (so I recommand Rockstar Toronto to fix this offically in the next patch) but I am still stuck with the slowness ingame problem. My Operation system is Windows XP SP3 RETAIL my video card is Nvidia 7950GT 250MB (250MB video card memory) I have Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz cpu and 1GB DDR2 of ram I play the game in 800x600 resolution. (evertthing on low 0/0/1) and even so, my fps is low, the game is stuttering for me! (stuck when I'm driving and the game is slow!) I have already installed the following with no luck: Patch - Titile Update (from rockstar website) Nvidia v180.84 driver (from nzone) Latest DirectX (from microsoft) NET Framework 3.5 + Sp1 (from microsoft) Is there going to be any hope for me? Is the next patch going to fix stutter/stuck/slowness (not smooth) / low fps game problems? need an offical respond from Rockstar Toronto. I would'nt even bother playing this game on those settings man, honestly buy a new pc, sorry "build" a new pc or get someone to build it for you and if you don't have the money then bput $50 a week aside in a seperate bank account until you have like $2500 and build yourself a monsterous pc ok man. There's no point trying this game out with a 256meg video card and I wish you luck because I've been in your shoes before and that's what I did. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058772176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaspersky Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) thank you EvilBeanbag545. let's hope the game will be fixed soon. "take some time"? How can you be sure? the game has serious problems (that have not been fixed by the first patch) so I think the second patch will be out soon (1-2 max weeks). What is your fps? How do you define "stuttering"? slowness/lag/low fps/stucking? (which one of them or all?) I need a responde from Rockstar Toronto about the 7 I want to be sure that the game will works fine on 7950GT 256MB after the second Patch (with 1GB ram/xp/inte duo core 1.8). by "works fine" I mean no texture problems and no stuttering/slowness/lag/low fps/stucking problems lancaster77- I want to play on minimum settings, 256MB NVidia 7900 is the offical minimum requirement, and my video card is a little above the minimum requirement, so I definitely suppose to run the game fine on low settings. I have a dual core cpu (match the minimum requirement). the only thing I think about is add 1GB of ram (so I will have 2GB). and I really want to play the game on low (600x800, all on low) Edited December 16, 2008 by kaspersky Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058772192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rador Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Play on low, everything on 0 + 800x600.. I cant play game too (2,00GHZ , 1GB RAM , GForce 8600 512 ) but i would never play like sh*t I m gonna upgrade my ram and i really hope it will help This f*ckin bitch will bow before me, not me before her. (in good, nothing against rockstar ) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058772255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaspersky Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 rador- you have 2.00Gh dual core + a video card that match Rockstar official "Recommended requirement", and you can't even play on low (all on low/ 800x600 / all on 0) that is just prove my point. you agree with me that the game suppose to work fine on EvilBeanbag545 rig, in spite of that, he have stuttering issues like me.. I'm not sure upgrading your ram will help much.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058772310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rador Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Just like i told, i hope it will Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058772692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHV Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) Every program you can close will give you more memory for textures. If it only was like this, isnt the textures loaded by vram, meaning gfx card ram? Why else i need 1GB vram or more minimum to play the game on High textures. Sure in most games it does use sys RAM but not in GTA4 which actually is the place you missed it. Compare the prices of ddr2 ram which is extemely cheap, and then check what does 1GB vram card cost. While playing GTA4, on Vista HP 64bit, with msn, NAV and even Steam open, i still have 900+MB of free RAM available since GTA4 doesnt use it, i wish it would and i wish closing programs would give any fps boost. Point of this post is, your not alone, i have fairly good machine for playing and i get fps drops to 15 and missing textures, especially on roads, and especially on bridges between citys. And yes ive closed all those programs mentioned above, i also have fresh installation of Vista with all the rquired updates, latest drivers, COD:WaW runs 90-100 fps on all maxed settings and GTA4 runs average 25-30 with missing textures and drops to unplayable occosionally. Edited December 17, 2008 by IHV Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058774904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaspersky Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 Rockstar Toronto- Where are you? please help. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058789624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trane1 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 With your pc I wouldn't even try to run GTA IV.. But, if you have problems with graphic, this may help you - Change resolution on your desktop to 800x600 if you play the game with 800x600 resolution. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058789751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallino Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 (edited) I have problems with stuttering and low fps with this pc: Athlon 64 X2 6000+ @3.01 ghz 2 gb ram ddr2 800 radeon Hd3850 512M win xp sp3 32 bit The strange thing is that if i put textures to high I have less stuttering... If I put textures to medium the game is unplayable after some minutes... Anyway is unplayable in all cases so I will waiting for a new patch... You're not alone XD Edited December 20, 2008 by sallino Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058789782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelated Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I have texture problems + slowness ingame (the road disappear - missing textures + slow fps)I solved the texture problems with CacheBoost program. (so I recommand Rockstar Toronto to fix this offically in the next patch) but I am still stuck with the slowness ingame problem. My Operation system is Windows XP SP3 RETAIL my video card is Nvidia 7950GT 250MB (250MB video card memory) I have Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8GHz cpu and 1GB DDR2 of ram I play the game in 800x600 resolution. (evertthing on low 0/0/1) and even so, my fps is low, the game is stuttering for me! (stuck when I'm driving and the game is slow!) I have already installed the following with no luck: Patch - Titile Update (from rockstar website) Nvidia v180.84 driver (from nzone) Latest DirectX (from microsoft) NET Framework 3.5 + Sp1 (from microsoft) Is there going to be any hope for me? Is the next patch going to fix stutter/stuck/slowness (not smooth) / low fps game problems? need an offical respond from Rockstar Toronto. There seems to be a few problems with the 7950, 7950GX2 and 7900 series in general. The problems as far as graphical glitches and errors are concerned are directly related to that specific card. Hopefully Rockstar Toronto can give you some details and a maybe even a solution. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058789791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayanarka Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I have the problem where you play the game for a while then it starts stuttering bad. I just got done playing it at 1920 x 1080- for a few hours before it happened this time. I am wondering if its an over heating [problem because i had the fans on high this time Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058790569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanderz Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 same here <- stuttering after 30 min + disappearing textures q6600 2.4 ghz 2 gb ram xfx 8800 GTX Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058791409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaspersky Posted December 25, 2008 Author Share Posted December 25, 2008 Rockstar Toronto- i see you keep answering some users but you avoid this thread. If you don't have an answer, Juat say so. are you guys at Rockstar working on a second patch or not? actually I know the answer, it is Yes. so when it is gonna be released? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058810033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmniNegro Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 With regards to the textures being in vram instead of system ram: This cacheboost program fixes some of these texture problems for some users. Thus the system ram is holding a significant part of the textures in until it is needed by the vram. Perhaps I am mistaken, but I do not believe there is any program that can change the contents of vram while the card is in use without crashing whatever it is doing. As for the issue of playing below minimum system requirements: I play on my aging 2 ghz AMD Athalon 64 (Single core) with 2 GB ram and an AGP Radeon 2600 HD 512. My system should not be able to run it at all, but I can get 11 fps in any settings via benchmark. The game is still unplayable, but not because of my inadequate system. I can play Crysis of highest settings without any problems. I think I will avoid R* games in the future. Sorry R*, but you know how disappointed we are. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/384768-serious-problem-need-official-responde/#findComment-1058810987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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